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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2013, 10:54:05 AM »
Interesting photo that I can't get directly off of the site. Shows two guys dressed similarly with backpacks.

Not only dressed similarly but the backpacks look large enough to hold a 6 liter device.  Also notice in the top photo they are both touching their ears as if trying to push/cover a hearing device in their ears (possibly because of crowd noise).  Who uses those types of ear buds?  Do I smell a conspiracy/red flag event?  

I thought that they were both using cell phones. Using anything else like say a scrambled RF transceiver might indicate a high level of sophistication. Hard to say. You could use an ordinary Motorola two-way radio with a hands free headset and then just use code words to coordinate the attack.

I do think that there had to be two people involved in order to plant two devices. I can't imagine how you would tote two of those things by yourself and plant them without drawing attention. What makes sense is walking to your target area, taking off the backpack and setting it on the ground for several minutes and then setting the timer and walking away. A short duration timer of say, two or three minutes would allow you to leave the detonation area safely and make your escape in the chaos following the explosion. Five minutes, tops.

Two people making two simultaneous drops with similar timer settings makes the most sense. The bombs went off within ten seconds of each other and that could be explained by two people not starting their timers at the exact same moment even though they were coordinated as to the start of the attack.

Having the bombs in backpacks also makes more sense than anything else. Everyone has a backpack. Drop it on the ground, wait a minute or two, set the timer and then walk away.

And conspiracies and false flags would be the last thing on my suspicion list. I would put "attack by space aliens" ahead of a conspiracy.
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2013, 11:05:15 AM »
I heard someone mention yesterday that the orange and red flames are indicative of a low explosive, which would correspond with smokeless powder. High explosives give off very little light, and when they do it's a bright white light.

Smokeless powder will burn in a pretty much harmless fashion if it's out in open air. All of its power comes from being contained in a pressure vessel of some kind. I guess now there will be a new assault on people buying powder in bulk for handloading.
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2013, 11:12:02 AM »
Interesting photo that I can't get directly off of the site. Shows two guys dressed similarly with backpacks.

Not only dressed similarly but the backpacks look large enough to hold a 6 liter device.  Also notice in the top photo they are both touching their ears as if trying to push/cover a hearing device in their ears (possibly because of crowd noise).  Who uses those types of ear buds?  Do I smell a conspiracy/red flag event? 

And...turning away from all cameras...back towards what I can only assume is a building cam...

Yeah, nothing coming up to rule out a false flag, that's for sure!
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2013, 11:15:53 AM »
I heard someone mention yesterday that the orange and red flames are indicative of a low explosive, which would correspond with smokeless powder. High explosives give off very little light, and when they do it's a bright white light.

Smokeless powder will burn in a pretty much harmless fashion if it's out in open air. All of its power comes from being contained in a pressure vessel of some kind. I guess now there will be a new assault on people buying powder in bulk for handloading.

Heard the same thing, somebody speculated that was what was used in the device and that they did a pisspoor job of tamping it down, reducing its effectiveness.  Incompetence probably saved lives.

And yeah, if they are not now they will be cataloging everything they can get their hands on about who is buying anything even remotely used in explosive devices, its a foregone conclusion powder is high on the list.

Probably have to be more careful about tampon and Styrofoam cup purchases now too.   ::)
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2013, 11:40:53 AM »
Interesting photo that I can't get directly off of the site. Shows two guys dressed similarly with backpacks.

Not only dressed similarly but the backpacks look large enough to hold a 6 liter device.  Also notice in the top photo they are both touching their ears as if trying to push/cover a hearing device in their ears (possibly because of crowd noise).  Who uses those types of ear buds?  Do I smell a conspiracy/red flag event?  

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Two people making two simultaneous drops with similar timer settings makes the most sense. The bombs went off within ten seconds of each other and that could be explained by two people not starting their timers at the exact same moment even though they were coordinated as to the start of the attack.

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And conspiracies and false flags would be the last thing on my suspicion list. I would put "attack by space aliens" ahead of a conspiracy.

A conspiracy only needs 2 people intent on committing a crime, and if these guys were even the only ones involved in the bombing by definition it was a conspiracy.
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2013, 12:33:57 PM »


And...turning away from all cameras...back towards what I can only assume is a building cam...

Yeah, nothing coming up to rule out a false flag, that's for sure!

Its evidence for a false flag IMO. Yes Start and Finish is where most of the people will be- but that is ALSO where the most cameras will be.  If you are a terrorist and afraid of getting caught,you avoid cameras of all types. Heck, you find delivery method  that isn't you...

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2013, 01:31:54 PM »
Arrest made, based on a security cam catching someone drop a backpack, walk away, while on a cell phone.

Maybe there is something to the two pics, showing guys with back packs while holding something up to their ears?

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2013, 01:44:00 PM »
Or not.  Looks to me the 24 48 72 Hour Rule is still in effect, with regards to Low Information Media.

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2013, 01:58:26 PM »
FBI says no arrest made.
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2013, 05:15:33 PM »
A conspiracy only needs 2 people intent on committing a crime, and if these guys were even the only ones involved in the bombing by definition it was a conspiracy.

You are, of course, correct. Usually though, when people speak of conspiracies they are referring to the mythical big huge types where some shadowy group of characters are pulling the strings and working the levers that control the universe. 9/11 trutherism would be one such example. In this case, it is almost certainly one of two things: either a small group (six or less) operating somewhat autonomously or some kind of jihadi/islamofascist terror group sponsored thing. Both would technically be conspiracies.
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2013, 07:12:31 PM »

Spaced aliens, Build-a-burgers, or Mohammedans;
I'll take Mohammedans for 200.

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2013, 08:08:25 PM »

Bill Hemmer is on Hannity saying that the two men in the photos, the one with the white cap and backpack holding a pot and the other guy in the blue wind breaker (track suit) are the two persons of interest. 
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2013, 08:37:01 PM »
I just went through all the images from the site Trap posted, there is an anonymous post, looks like from Reddit, 2 images to the right of the one Trap was referencing saying it was a false flag.  What do you all think?  Also, check out all the pictures.
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2013, 08:56:40 PM »
I realize that anyone can post anything on the Internet, but THIS post that Ben refers to is chilling to contemplate.
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"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2013, 09:32:17 PM »
Yeah, that's what bothers me.  The HD camera on the outside building giving the best pics is obvious to anybody on the ground.  Jihadi terrorists might not always be the brightest of the bright and may not always construct things perfectly, but even a moron can see that camera pod on that building.  My antennae are still twitchy.
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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2013, 11:02:19 PM »
From a friend of a friend in my facebook feed...

"Monday evening I watched Obama deliver his very short speech addressing the terrorist act in Boston. He seemed unconcerned, unsympathetic, and completely detached. This evening, I saw him speak about losing his gun grab in the Senate. He was angry, confrontational to those who opposed him and a bit pompous in promising his agenda was not dead."
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2013, 11:33:33 PM »

To him people are fodder and this fodder gummed up his plans.

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2013, 11:46:32 PM »
From a friend of a friend in my facebook feed...

"Monday evening I watched Obama deliver his very short speech addressing the terrorist act in Boston. He seemed unconcerned, unsympathetic, and completely detached. This evening, I saw him speak about losing his gun grab in the Senate. He was angry, confrontational to those who opposed him and a bit pompous in promising his agenda was not dead."

O'Bongo's reaction to his gun bill going down in flames...

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #78 on: April 18, 2013, 06:54:29 AM »
Look like Moroccan's (or some other North African Berber tribe) to me, but hey, that's profiling and raaaaacist!



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/feds_have_men_in_sights_j43UJwXZncr0wmysU42scJ

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Re: Boston Marathon Terrorism
« Reply #79 on: April 18, 2013, 06:58:58 AM »
"Two White, Right-Wing, Tea Party Muslims"
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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