Topic: The Role Women Should Play in Society

[Glock32]

This comes from what I suppose you could call the anarcho-capitalist point of view. There's not much to argue with, and the truth of the matter is that it really has nothing to do with women per se, but rather is a description of what is wrong with this society. The disaster wrought by the welfare state, the disaster of systematically preventing entire generations from achieving adulthood in any meaningful sense of the word.

From Captain Capitalism, with a hat tip to Small Dead Animals.

I received a question from a reader about what I thought women's role in society should be.

At first thought I imagined the response would be a lengthy one, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized it was very simple.

Women's role in society should be whatever role women wish to play.

That's it.

Period.

Women, like men, are human and have every right to freedom and should not be pigeon-holed into one role or another.  They are sentient, they are human, they are individuals, there should be no specific "role" they play in society as pre-ordaining them to play ANY role would be be tyranny over the individual.

Where the hubbub or contention occurs is where women do precisely that, but then whine and complain about the consequences.

For example, if a woman wants to get impregnated at the age of 16...and then 18...and then 21 by three different men, I personally do not care.  But when you start telling me I have to pay higher taxes to bail this parasite out of her own idiotic mistakes, then I morally and logically should have a say in how she should lead her life because the veritable parasite is now consuming part of mine.  I would go so far as to even say I have the right to force birth control on her.  And the reason why is that when somebody starts requiring others pay for their way, then they cease to be an individual and forfeit all rights.

Or another example. Say a woman majors in a worthless subject.  I don't care.  I don't really care.  You go major in Lesbian, Transgender, Chicano-White-Privilege, French, 18th Century Poetry for all I care and make sure to go $150,000 in debt at some prissy little liberal arts college tucked away in the non-urban East coast.

As long as she lives up to the fact she will be unemployable, in debt, and just plain out of luck.

But once I'm requested to bail her out (either though loan forgiveness via the taxpayer or lobbying to increase my taxes to make a pointless, make-work government job for her), then once again she has forfeited being an individual and I have every right to dictate to her what she should and should not do.

In other words, the issue of "women's place in society" is not one of liberty or individualistic choice or idealism.  That is a simple matter - they should be allowed to do whatever they want.  It's a matter of whether society is man enough to let them suffer the consequences of their decisions and TRULY TREAT THEM AS EQUALS or is hoodwinked into being asked to bail out women for stupid choices, stupid mistakes, and just plain stupidity.

But don't think this just applies to women.  It is only women we are talking about because of the question posed to me.  This lesson applies to both sexes.

To what extent do we grant freedom to an individual to f**k up his or her own life?

Philosophically and morally I say "the fullest extent."

But it is on the grounds and understanding that they get to suffer the full and complete consequences of their mistakes, their stupidity, and their inferiority with no cost to the taxpayer.

Of course, we do not have this today.  Everybody gets bailed out.

The loser who borrowed more than they could afford to buy a house.
The loser who had more children than he/she could afford.
The loser that majors in English in an English speaking country where English is a skill akin to breathing.
The loser that started a sports bar or a trinket shop because they had a dream but no business acumen.

I could go on, but you get the point.

Mature, freedom-loving adults, allow people to do whatever they want because that is freedom and that is liberty.  It is the consequences of stupid decisions that causes the controversy about women's role in society today because women (disproportionately to men - and yes, I will defend that with empirical data) then go begging, nay, DEMANDING the rest of RESPONSIBLE society lessen their standards of living to bail them out of their stupidity.

So what role should women play in society?

Simple, whatever they want, long as they're adult about it.

[benb61]

I have a friend who is adamant that if you receive any type of welfare, you should not be allowed to vote.  Anyone on the dole can just vote themselves more money and that is wrong. I completely agree, once you have made enough bad choices and are unable to care for yourself, you have lost the privilege to be active in the electoral process, until such time as you stop being a leach to society.

[Alphabet Soup]

I have a friend who is adamant that if you receive any type of welfare, you should not be allowed to vote. Anyone on the dole can just vote themselves more money and that is wrong. I completely agree, once you have made enough bad choices and are unable to care for yourself, you have lost the privilege to be active in the electoral process, until such time as you stop being a leach to society.

Now you have two friends  

The vote should only go to people who have skin in the game.

[Alphabet Soup]

The loser who borrowed more than they could afford to buy a house.
The loser who had more children than he/she could afford.
The loser that majors in English in an English speaking country where English is a skill akin to breathing.
The loser that started a sports bar or a trinket shop because they had a dream but no business acumen.

The loser who bought a sports bar because he likes to drink and bet (and bet and drink). 

[ChrstnHsbndFthr]

I have a friend who is adamant that if you receive any type of welfare, you should not be allowed to vote. Anyone on the dole can just vote themselves more money and that is wrong. I completely agree, once you have made enough bad choices and are unable to care for yourself, you have lost the privilege to be active in the electoral process, until such time as you stop being a leach to society.

Now you have two friends  

The vote should only go to people who have skin in the game.

Three

[Weisshaupt]

I have a friend who is adamant that if you receive any type of welfare, you should not be allowed to vote.  Anyone on the dole can just vote themselves more money and that is wrong. I completely agree, once you have made enough bad choices and are unable to care for yourself, you have lost the privilege to be active in the electoral process, until such time as you stop being a leach to society.

The Hallmark of an adult is that you can take care of yourself and make responsible decision that keep you out of trouble. . If you are on the dole, you have proven you are NOT capable of taking care of yourself, and  that you are still a child.  Children aren't allowed to vote,  largely because they lack the maturity and judgement to make good decisions. Being on the dole is proof of same, and there is no reason a person who has proven they are incapable of making good decisions for themselves should be allowed to make decisions for others,and this time using the government guns to enforce them. 

[ToddF]

I have a cousin that started a bar because he likes to drink. 

Yes, it did turn out as well as you would expect, thanks for asking.   

He's now on permanent disability.