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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2013, 11:28:28 AM »
Can I get Secretary of Defense?

As long as you get rid of all the social engineering, weed out the Muzzies and reject any unlawful order that calls for military action against citizens...I'm sure we can convince President-Elect Warpmine your nomination is desireable.   ::thumbsup::
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2013, 11:30:34 AM »
I want dibs on FEMA director. I want to be the last face the libs see on their way to the internment camps!

We need to call those Responsible Citizen Festivals for PR purposes, OK?   ;D
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2013, 11:31:33 AM »
I would like Chief Justice, please. Now we only need eight more people who can actually read.

I think we can find eight more originalists in our ranks!   ::thumbsup::
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2013, 11:41:37 AM »
Can't wait to see what Secretary Weisshaupt does with the Fed!   ::cool::   ::bustamove::   ::whoohoo::

There is only one thing that CAN be done with the fed.  Its charter must be revoked.  The Criminals on its board arrested and publicly executed for treason.

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Replacing its function is a much harder task.

Aye.
 
If we had such a money supply now we would all be converting our Blue Dollars to National Bit Coin, and depositing them in a bitcoin account in some bank which would still be paying decent interest on them ( because they are not affected by the prime blue dollar  rate - each   bank deciding on its own what rate to loan bit coins at and what to accept in payment. )  or loaning them ourselves via investments that pay back in National  bitcoin.   Point is "smart money" would start flowing out of the Blue Dollar,  reducing Washington's spending power considerably ( while still allowing them to prosecute a war if required).
I think I see where you are going here, have the real liquidity in the private sector where it does the most ecomic good, restrict it to the private marker to keep it from overfeeding, keep government lean and responsible.

Heck, sounds good to me, we have to come up with something better than the BS we have, so, I'd go for it.  If something needs tweaking we can tweak it!  But we tweak as three co-equal branches...no more of this self-given regulatory authority to create law at whim for us!  
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2013, 12:12:53 PM »
I would like Chief Justice, please. Now we only need eight more people who can actually read.

I think we can find eight more originalists in our ranks!   ::thumbsup::

That would not have to serve in other offices though.  Hopefully it will require little to no actual work, since our people would do nothing that should ever rise to the court's attention. It should be the only job with even less work than the office of vice-president since no justice is likely to inquire about the president's health on a daily basis.
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2013, 12:15:03 PM »
I would like Chief Justice, please. Now we only need eight more people who can actually read.

I think we can find eight more originalists in our ranks!   ::thumbsup::

That would not have to serve in other offices though.  Hopefully it will require little to no actual work, since our people would do nothing that should ever rise to the court's attention. It should be the only job with even less work than the office of vice-president since no justice is likely to inquire about the president's health on a daily basis.

And why do I suspect that as *the* reason you volunteered?   ::stirpot::
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2013, 12:20:37 PM »
Because, "Laziness is a quality, when properly applied."

Someday that may be a famous quote from the First Chief Justice of the Restored United States, ChrstnHsbndFthr. 

I would like Chief Justice, please. Now we only need eight more people who can actually read.

I think we can find eight more originalists in our ranks!   ::thumbsup::

That would not have to serve in other offices though.  Hopefully it will require little to no actual work, since our people would do nothing that should ever rise to the court's attention. It should be the only job with even less work than the office of vice-president since no justice is likely to inquire about the president's health on a daily basis.

And why do I suspect that as *the* reason you volunteered?   ::stirpot::
“My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together.

“However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2013, 12:29:17 PM »
I think Don was looking forward to eliminating those he was to be given authority over...and I am pretty sure he means to truly eliminate many of them personally.  As CoS I endorse his plan.   ::thumbsup::

Can't wait to see what Secretary Weisshaupt does with the Fed!   ::cool::   ::bustamove::   ::whoohoo::


Actually....I would target liberal groups and then watch the sheer hypocricy.
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2013, 12:39:20 PM »

I think I see where you are going here, have the real liquidity in the private sector where it does the most economic good, restrict it to the private marker to keep it from overfeeding, keep government lean and responsible.


Actually, the liquidity is more likely to come from the Blue Dollar.  They will inherently always be in greater supply via Gresham's Law. And will most likely be what most venture capital looses - why would I take risk's with Sound money?  While the parity of the two will float and not be legally  tied as Gresham's Law stipulates  - but I will still expect the "sound money" to have a higher nominal value than the speculative supply.   I would expect that most speculative actions will be taken with Blue dollars-  and be contractually  paid back in a combination of  the two currencies commensurate to the risk. A low risk venture would probably demand a smaller percentage of "sound money' in return.  A High Risk venture would be expected to pay back in a higher amount of "sound money" - and this will help keep the Blue Dollar in check with reality.

Private individuals and corporations could chose to do business in either currency, or both - Just like most Mexican street vendors price their wares in Pesos AND in Dollars, with Dollar payments being cheaper and preferred - like wise with Vendors who offer discounts for NOT using a credit card.  People working for wages will probably require some set amount in Blue Dollars ( enough to pay federal tax) and demand the rest in National Bit Coin. Yes, the Feds can keep upping the amount of Blue Dollars demanded - and try to force more conversion of National Bit-Coin to Blue Dollars - basically creating an artificial demand for Blue Dollars- but the sound money is inherently more scarce- and in effect will simply add more value to bit coin if there aren't enough blue dollars readily available. Since the govt can only spend Bitcoin (except in a war) , the exchange rate just evens out for them, and there isn't any point. In a war, the govt can essentially pull on the value of Bitcoins, but in that circumstance, it should probably be allowed to.   Of course doing so   will just piss   off the tax payer - and  since they can essentially take out interest free loans in Blue Dollars, their path of least resistance will always be borrowing (printing)  

 Cash will be a momentary thing - you will "Withdraw" bitcoin as Blue Dollars ( as a system to print Bitcoin Cash is likely to become corrupted - just as TPTB print Gold Paper)  -If you need "cash" you have it , but not as a long term store of wealth ( much like right now)  

I think it could work.. or at least be better than what we have, but I admit its complicated, and there may be problems that need to be addressed that I haven't noticed.



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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2013, 03:17:57 PM »
I would like Chief Justice, please. Now we only need eight more people who can actually read.
Not really. One will suffice for five years. After that, I'm thinking Alan Keyes, Ellis Washington, Mark Levin, and a few others, that haven't popped in as yet. More on that later.
 
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2013, 03:22:37 PM »
I want dibs on FEMA director. I want to be the last face the libs see on their way to the internment camps!

We need to call those Responsible Citizen Festivals for PR purposes, OK?   ;D
Those would be temporary I hope. No reason to keep condemned prisoners their past 15 days unless we have an ammo shortage(doubt that). We'll call them Camp Purgatory.
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2013, 03:50:13 PM »
Can I get Secretary of Defense?

As long as you get rid of all the social engineering, weed out the Muzzies and reject any unlawful order that calls for military action against citizens...I'm sure we can convince President-Elect Warpmine your nomination is desireable.   ::thumbsup::
You can do with it as you please after the five year period is up. I recommend that this be done but during the period, former citizens will need to be rounded up and secured at certain facilities for processing.

Speaking of enemies of the state, we'll need to get rid of their families as well. Not by execution but by forced deportation. I don't care where they go so long as it's not here in our beloved Republic to be. I figure their direct offspring should be forbidden to come to our shores for at least five generations insuring the evil is consumed by time.

Once the period is up I recommend a counter offensive against the scourge of Mecca and Medina until they cannot feed their population or just dissolve over time. They can never be allowed to breed with Human females. If the females won't repent then sterility must be forced upon them. We have a serious problem with these roaches folks and I believe this will solve the problem ultimately. Some will say what about the other countries. Trust me, they've all had enough of this sh*t and want the evil back into the bottle and buried. ::thumbsup::

Leftism, progressives, socialism and Muzzleman are all part of the same poison root. All should be dealt with but after the five year period. My goal is to rid the Republic of her sworn enemies and return her back to the purpose of securing the Liberty of her citizens. ::USA::

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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2013, 06:50:44 PM »
I want dibs on FEMA director. I want to be the last face the libs see on their way to the internment camps!

We need to call those Responsible Citizen Festivals for PR purposes, OK?   ;D

Libertas.....buddy......I love ya like a brother but I'd prefer to leave the euphemisms to the leftists.

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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2013, 07:06:29 PM »
Can I get Secretary of Defense?

As long as you get rid of all the social engineering, weed out the Muzzies and reject any unlawful order that calls for military action against citizens...I'm sure we can convince President-Elect Warpmine your nomination is desireable.   ::thumbsup::
You can do with it as you please after the five year period is up. I recommend that this be done but during the period, former citizens will need to be rounded up and secured at certain facilities for processing.

Speaking of enemies of the state, we'll need to get rid of their families as well. Not by execution but by forced deportation. I don't care where they go so long as it's not here in our beloved Republic to be. I figure their direct offspring should be forbidden to come to our shores for at least five generations insuring the evil is consumed by time.

Once the period is up I recommend a counter offensive against the scourge of Mecca and Medina until they cannot feed their population or just dissolve over time. They can never be allowed to breed with Human females. If the females won't repent then sterility must be forced upon them. We have a serious problem with these roaches folks and I believe this will solve the problem ultimately. Some will say what about the other countries. Trust me, they've all had enough of this sh*t and want the evil back into the bottle and buried. ::thumbsup::

Leftism, progressives, socialism and Muzzleman are all part of the same poison root. All should be dealt with but after the five year period. My goal is to rid the Republic of her sworn enemies and return her back to the purpose of securing the Liberty of her citizens. ::USA::

I will not accept another term if I cannot finish the task, you must take it upon yourselves if required.

As far as Mecca and Medina are concerned I would expect prez warpmine to issue an edict that "The first terrorist act, Muzzie riot or other evil perpetrated against the citizens of a free and liberty loving nation in the world will be dealt with by turning one of those 2 locals into a large glass parking lot".  I would be happy to push the launch button to make that happen.  The second offense and the other local gets the same treatment.  Anything after that and it will be open season on anyone with a Koran.
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2013, 10:03:13 PM »
What you have against Muzzies? Why waste a nuke when you can just make them all miserable, knock out the electrical plants and the water desalinization plants. Besides, if we wait for the yearly Hadj, we can get millions with one shot. Just need to make noise about an asteroid heading to the area. Trust me, nobody will be the wiser. (Funny how Hollyweird never picks a target full of muzzies for an terrestrial hit.)
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« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2013, 11:00:16 PM »
Isn't that stupid black rock supposed to be a meteorite anyway?  Seems fitting if a nuke were to be called a new meteorite :)
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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2013, 11:33:00 PM »

An asteroid shower, who would complain, really?


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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2013, 07:02:48 AM »
I want dibs on FEMA director. I want to be the last face the libs see on their way to the internment camps!

We need to call those Responsible Citizen Festivals for PR purposes, OK?   ;D

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« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2013, 07:18:43 AM »
What you have against Muzzies? Why waste a nuke when you can just make them all miserable, knock out the electrical plants and the water desalinization plants. Besides, if we wait for the yearly Hadj, we can get millions with one shot. Just need to make noise about an asteroid heading to the area. Trust me, nobody will be the wiser. (Funny how Hollyweird never picks a target full of muzzies for an terrestrial hit.)

Now we're thinking!   ::thumbsup::

We can also throw some takkiya back at 'em...use proxies to spread the word that the Prophet is going to make a special appearance...make sure the damned place is really packed...then...POOF!!!

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Re: Fascism in America
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2013, 07:36:54 AM »

I think I see where you are going here, have the real liquidity in the private sector where it does the most economic good, restrict it to the private marker to keep it from overfeeding, keep government lean and responsible.


Actually, the liquidity is more likely to come from the Blue Dollar.  They will inherently always be in greater supply via Gresham's Law. And will most likely be what most venture capital looses - why would I take risk's with Sound money?  While the parity of the two will float and not be legally  tied as Gresham's Law stipulates  - but I will still expect the "sound money" to have a higher nominal value than the speculative supply.   I would expect that most speculative actions will be taken with Blue dollars-  and be contractually  paid back in a combination of  the two currencies commensurate to the risk. A low risk venture would probably demand a smaller percentage of "sound money' in return.  A High Risk venture would be expected to pay back in a higher amount of "sound money" - and this will help keep the Blue Dollar in check with reality.

Private individuals and corporations could chose to do business in either currency, or both - Just like most Mexican street vendors price their wares in Pesos AND in Dollars, with Dollar payments being cheaper and preferred - like wise with Vendors who offer discounts for NOT using a credit card.  People working for wages will probably require some set amount in Blue Dollars ( enough to pay federal tax) and demand the rest in National Bit Coin. Yes, the Feds can keep upping the amount of Blue Dollars demanded - and try to force more conversion of National Bit-Coin to Blue Dollars - basically creating an artificial demand for Blue Dollars- but the sound money is inherently more scarce- and in effect will simply add more value to bit coin if there aren't enough blue dollars readily available. Since the govt can only spend Bitcoin (except in a war) , the exchange rate just evens out for them, and there isn't any point. In a war, the govt can essentially pull on the value of Bitcoins, but in that circumstance, it should probably be allowed to.   Of course doing so   will just piss   off the tax payer - and  since they can essentially take out interest free loans in Blue Dollars, their path of least resistance will always be borrowing (printing)  

 Cash will be a momentary thing - you will "Withdraw" bitcoin as Blue Dollars ( as a system to print Bitcoin Cash is likely to become corrupted - just as TPTB print Gold Paper)  -If you need "cash" you have it , but not as a long term store of wealth ( much like right now)  

I think it could work.. or at least be better than what we have, but I admit its complicated, and there may be problems that need to be addressed that I haven't noticed.




So, you are only going for a common medium of exchange, something still elastic to real and artifical supply and demand, and since it would not be Neo-Keynesians running the show we can rest peacefully knowing the old manipulation games are not 24/7/365 in the center ring of the circus.  The long-term stores of value should still be valued commodities, much as it was throughout our history, sans the debasement of course.  Fraud of any kind can be made a capital crime and punished accordingly...no more Corzines!
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