Topic: How the Tea Party Can Save America and the World – A Plea From New Zealand

[Glock32]

I'm familiar with some of Trevor Loudon's writings.  He runs the New Zeal site, and has appeared in some documentaries such as "Grinding America Down".  I post this here as some food for thought, to contrast with some of the "screw the GOP" messages we hear (and which I myself have stated as much as anyone).

Many Tea Partiers and American patriots understand that the fate of the United States of America hangs in the balance.

No melodrama here. If the US loses its position as the world’s number one military super power, another country, or countries, will take its place.

Realistically, that can only be Russia or China, or more likely, an alliance of Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Vietnam and whoever ever else climbs aboard.

As the U.S. Dollar slowly sinks and America’s prestige and power goes with it, the “Evil Axis” grows bolder.


But why should I care? I’m safe aren’t I? Way down at the bottom of the South Pacific, in New Zealand.

Well, maybe not so safe. China is steadily advancing through the Pacific. It now has several footholds in our region, particularly in Fiji, which is my country’s nearest major island neighbor. To any thinking Aussie or Kiwi, this is cause for major concern.

in June of 2012, Song Xiaojun, a “retired” Chinese general, told Australia’s Sydney Morning Herald, that “Australia has to find a godfather sooner or later…” “Australia always has to depend on somebody else, whether it is to be the ‘son’ of the U.S. or ‘son’ of China,” Song said, adding that Australia had best choose China because it all “depends on who is more powerful and based on the strategic environment.”

If America goes under folks, the West goes under. No ifs, no buts. Only a strong America can keep the bad guys in check. Just as soldiers from all over the world fought in Europe and the Pacific to save liberty in WW2, today’s freedom lovers need to join the fight to save the US. Once liberty was fought for in the Coral Sea, Guadalcanal, Normandy and Sicily. Now if liberty is to be saved, we must win the electoral battles of Florida, Ohio, Virginia and Colorado.

From my home in Christchurch, I recently spent an hour on the phone with a savvy Florida activist. She outlined for me the crushing problems being faced by American patriots, in the face of a relentless leftist onslaught from the Obama Administration. According to my usually optimistic friend, much of the Tea Party is in disarray, the GOP leadership is even more arrogant and out of touch than usual and if the Dems pass “immigration reform” the Republic will be swamped with millions of new loyal Democrats, effectively turning the US into a permanent “one party state.”
And to cap that, now I’m hearing whispers of a third party.

Let’s get real. There is only one vehicle that can take back America from the Democrats and their union and far left allies, in the very limited time we have left. That is the Republican Party. If the Democrats hold the Senate and take back the House in 2014, or even 2016, which they could well do, America is done for.

Illegal immigrants will be granted voting rights and the intimidation tactics now being employed will seem like kindergarten bullying, as the Democrats and unions unleash full force on their remaining opposition. There is a climate of fear now in the United States. If the Democrats get back in full control, they will NEVER relinquish it. This is no longer the old GOP/Dem turnabout game. This is the left for playing keeps and the GOP playing constant catchup.

While I have no particular love for the Republican Party, its hard to see how starting a third party right now could possibly do anything but hand both the House and the Senate to the Dems in 2014 and the presidency to the left in 2016.
If that happens, the left will never give up power without bloodshed.

If it ever comes to serious civil unrest and the socialist’s power is actually threatened, foreign troops will be called in to restore order. That will be the end of America – and of the entire West. A peaceful revolution is our only realistic hope.

So what to do? A third party will almost certainly hand America to the tyrants. The GOP leadership is ineffectual at best, often cowardly and unprincipled – occasionally even treacherous.

But the GOP does have a structure, a brand, some money, hundreds of thousands of dedicated activists and tens of millions of voters.

That is not something to throw away.

The Tea Party faces a choice. They can “throw their toys out of the cot” as we say in New Zealand and walk away from the GOP. They can work on local issues alone, or dissolve, or form a third party. Satisfying as those options may be, they are almost certainly guaranteed to consign your children and grandchildren to a life of slavery – at best.

So what is the alternative?

I have addressed more than 150 Tea Party groups. I have met thousands of activists. You people are the best of America. I write this on the verge of tears as I remember the amazing patriots, thinkers and activists I have met on my four speaking tours of your amazing country. If America is to be saved, you will do it. No other movement has the energy, drive, commitment, fortitude, foresight or integrity of the Tea Party patriots.

You however have one major weakness. You lack self-confidence.

The vast majority of you are political novices. You take too much advice from your self-appointed “betters” in the GOP and the mainstream conservative movement. This was illustrated in places like Florida, last year, where the Tea Party activists were “forbidden” from pushing the illegal immigrant issue by various “consultants’ and GOP hacks.

The Tea Party needs to realize you have the truth on your side. You are real people, with roots in your communities. Many of you are veterans. You are far more in touch with voters than any GOP blueblood or K street consultant ever will be.
So what should your wonderful movement do?

Here is my advice. It is far from perfect, but I hope it will at least add to the debate.

Its all about CONCENTRATION OF FORCES.

I’ve met a lot of Tea Partiers working inside the GOP. Some of them very successfully. However what tends to happen is that many of them become marginalized by GOP “moderates” and their good work comes to little.

In Australia, the Labor Party – the counterpart, of your Democrats, operates in two main formalized factions – the conservative/moderate Labor Unity and the Socialist Left. One party, two power blocs. Effectively two separate organizations within a one party structure. The two factions horse trade, do deals, fight like cats and dogs, compete viciously with each other, yet at election time, stand as a “united front” against their conservative opposition.

I’m suggesting that the Tea Party should adopt a variant of this approach. Join the GOP en masse, but don’t dilute your efforts by operating as scattered individuals inside the GOP structure. If the tea parties collectively become say, a “Constitutional Caucus”, within the GOP, you could maintain your agenda and your integrity, but would also have the advantage of GOP structure, branding and the ability to actually get your candidates elected. Don’t join GOP branches, BECOME GOP BRANCHES.

There need be nothing covert about this. Tea Party groups should identify themselves openly as Constitutional Republicans and refuse to be in any way subservient to head office dictates. Put the GOP old guard on notice that you are here to retake your party and restore it to its constitutional foundations. Openly state that you regard them as usurpers until proven otherwise.

Boldly proclaim that you fully intend to bloc vote your way into positions of influence and that you will work with other Constitutionalists in your state and nationally to primary GOP candidates, no matter how long serving, who do not actively support in word and deed, the US Constitution. TAKE NO PRISONERS.

Concentrate your resources. Pick winnable fights only. Do not primary candidates you cannot defeat this election cycle. I’ve seen that happen too often. Tea Party groups targeting scattered RINOs all over the state and not quite beating any of them. Pick a handful of winnable races each election cycle and call in fellow Constitutionalists from all over the state to defeat the RINOs and elect some of your own. If they do not respect you MAKE THEM FEAR YOU. The respect will follow later – trust me.

Now is not the time for peripheral issues either. The survival of the United States of America is at stake. The future of Western civilization hangs in the balance. CORE ISSUES ONLY. The Constitution, National Security (including border control, and gun rights), Education and the Economy). I don’t want to minimize other issues, but this is a last ditch effort to save your country and mine. If we blow this one, there may not be another in our great great grandchildren’s lifetimes.

This is cultural warfare folks and we must concentrate resources on core issue that may actually help to defeat our opponents in both parties, in the fast approaching battles ahead.

Logically, the United States of America should never been born. In the 1770?s most Americans were either pro-British or apathetic. Fewer than 10% of the population actually supported the revolution and way fewer actually fought it.

How in God’s name, did a bunch of poorly armed farmers and lawyers, laborers, shopkeepers and tradesmen, seriously hope to defeat the mightiest army in the world at that time? Yet they did it. I left out one important group for a reason. The first American revolution was preached from the pulpit. Hundreds of pastors, a bible in one hand, a long rifle in the other, boldly supported George Washington’s ragtag army. They understood better than any one that America was founded on religious freedom. They understood exactly what was at stake.

The first American revolutionaries were inspired by something much greater than themselves. You Tea Party revolutionaries always need to keep the big picture in mind.

If you don’t think this war is worth winning, you tell me one that is? If you don’t think your grandchildren’s liberty is worth fighting for, please tell me what you do care about?

We all admire the first American revolutionaries, for their incredible bravery and fortitude and sacrifice. They risked everything to give you the exceptional country you enjoy today.

In two hundred years’ time, young teenagers will be standing in front of civics and history classes in schools all across America. These young people will talk about their free and prosperous country with great pride. But some of the proudest will be able to say something like this;

“You know guys, you know back in the early 2000s when the country was in crisis, when a lot of people thought America was done for. When patriots stood up and saved the Republic, restored the Constitution? Gave us the incredible freedom and prosperity we enjoy today? Well I’ve done some family research. And you know what? My great great great Grandpa and Grandma…they were in the TEA PARTY…”

Your Creator gave you both a heart and a brain folks. Now is the time to use both.

Yours in Liberty

Trevor Loudon

Christchurch, New Zealand

Read more: http://joemiller.us/2013/07/how-the-tea-party-can-save-america-and-the-world-a-plea-from-new-zealand/#ixzz2YZLKrCh0

[Weisshaupt]

The Republican party is a bought and paid for arm of the Democratic party.
The  Democrats are OPENLY cheating in elections ( for when you admit to a 100%+ result that is what you are admitting to doing)
there is no possibility of an electoral win.  The Dems will walk in, and replace the booths with their own and walk out in full view of everyone and than shrug and say "what?!?" You racist?"
Its not like anyone in the Justice Department will hold them to account.
Its not like any liberal or democrat will join with us to demand a fair election.
The system is corrupt and broken  and that is the way our opposition WANTS it.

There are no political solutions. There are no Parties, GOP or otherwise that can offer one.  The WEST HAS FALLEN ALREADY.  We are just watching it collapse in slo-motion.
It doesn't matter who you vote for. IF they are honest they or their family will be threatened and  killed, and the media will blame it on right-wing terrorists or a drug habit that has you driving at 80mhp though suburban streets at 3 am. . If they are dishonest, the NSA will hand over ample information to blackmail them into making the "right" decisions

Elections are for dealing with people who are working with you in good faith, and no Democrat or liberal offers that. They take, and then they take more, till they get their way. A compromise is just a step on the ratchet. The second they get what they want that take it as a sign of weakness they can get more.

Either there will be a armed resistance and revolt or there won't be one. That is the only choice before us now.

[Glock32]

Yeah, I'm with you on that. I just found something, for lack of a better term, sad about this article. His country and Australia now have China openly taunting them that they better kiss the Sino-Godfather's ring, because the villains of the world are just standing around waiting for the once-valiant American lion to succumb.

I still don't understand how they were able to so successfully rot the minds of entire generations through education. You would think people would have a natural resistance to their own family, culture, country being demonized. I can only conclude it's because these Leftists are the pawns of Satan.  If you think about it, the cultural virus that is Leftism has depended on things like sloth, envy, and perversion in order to take root in people's minds -- sinfulness in other words. I think what we're seeing play out has been prophesied long ago.

[Predator Don]

I appreciate his plea, but I must look at "The west" as lost. As Weisshaupt posted above, the corruption is too widespread and the republican party too engrained. We get back to the lesser of two evils debate. I used to be convinced voting republican was the way to go and the Tea Party needed to be more of an ideal than an actual party. I no longer believe in this manner.

If a 3rd party begins ( Cmon Sarah) and its cornerstone are the core principles which created this country, I'm in. You know why? Well, the plea from Mr Loudon provides my answer......"How in God’s name, did a bunch of poorly armed farmers and lawyers, laborers, shopkeepers and tradesmen, seriously hope to defeat the mightiest army in the world at that time? Yet they did it. "

I agree with a lot of what he pleads....I just don't think it will be accomplished by bowing at the feet of the republican establishment. I don't believe, if we attempted to form a branch within the confines of the republican party, we would get the so called advantages of their in place machine. If I'm gonna be vilified, persecuted and reviled, it will be outside of the republican so called safety net.

[LadyVirginia]

I still don't understand how they were able to so successfully rot the minds of entire generations through education. You would think people would have a natural resistance to their own family, culture, country being demonized. I can only conclude it's because these Leftists are the pawns of Satan.  If you think about it, the cultural virus that is Leftism has depended on things like sloth, envy, and perversion in order to take root in people's minds -- sinfulness in other words. I think what we're seeing play out has been prophesied long ago.

Most people are lazy and what they do spend time on isn't anything of worth.

[AlanS]

You however have one major weakness. You lack self-confidence.

The author is showing his naivete.

[Glock32]

You however have one major weakness. You lack self-confidence.

The author is showing his naivete.

I don't know, is he?  Why has the Republican brand been so timid about embracing conservatism?  Why is the threat of the liberals crying like stuck pigs enough to dissuade so many people from pursuing a real, full-throated conservative agenda? Or the threat of being dragged through the mud by the media?

When Reagan embraced it, he was rewarded with electoral trouncings of his opponents. The country has changed some since the 1980s, but I think meat and potatoes conservatism still animates a lot of people even if they don't actively recognize themselves as conservatives. But it's as if the party doesn't realize this at all. They lack the self-confidence that conservatism is a valid and popular position, it's not a laughing stock just because all the media are in unison in declaring it such.

[LadyVirginia]

Why has the Republican brand been so timid about embracing conservatism? 

because the ones in power in the party aren't conservatives

GOP has gotten away with making conservatives think they are lucky to be in the GOP and the conservatives believe they should be grateful someone let them in.

Conservatives should stop be apologetic about being for the Constitution, marriage, family, etc. Unfortunately, being unapologetic may mean crossing family and friends, co-workers, etc and that is why many stay silent.

[Predator Don]

You however have one major weakness. You lack self-confidence.

The author is showing his naivete.

Alan, I know you don't lack self confidence. I don't believe Tea Party members (in general) lack self confidence. Those we send to Washington lack self confidence or lose it after a few months. The author needs to be appealing to the republican machine. It's why they will not get my vote, ever again.

[Pandora]

Why has the Republican brand been so timid about embracing conservatism? 

because the ones in power in the party aren't conservatives

GOP has gotten away with making conservatives think they are lucky to be in the GOP and the conservatives believe they should be grateful someone let them in.

Conservatives should stop be apologetic about being for the Constitution, marriage, family, etc. Unfortunately, being unapologetic may mean crossing family and friends, co-workers, etc and that is why many stay silent.

Anyone willing to upset the apple cart by opening her/his mouth is going to run right into the "smoother-overs" as well as crossing the opposition.  I believe y'all know the "smoother-over" types; they may or probably agree with Conservative positions, but would rather have peace, so if you -- as in, the general "you" -- are seen as the "shtstorm" in the room, you will be hushed up instead of backed up.

Been there, done that, got the label.  Actually, I chose it and I wear it proudly, but it do get lonely.

[Weisshaupt]

Unfortunately, being unapologetic may mean crossing family and friends, co-workers, etc and that is why many stay silent.

Trust me, those people aren't worth it. Let them be angry. The truth is still the truth. Speak it. You don't need people who can't handle it in your life.

[Weisshaupt]

Alan, I know you don't lack self confidence. I don't believe Tea Party members (in general) lack self confidence. Those we send to Washington lack self confidence or lose it after a few months. The author needs to be appealing to the republican machine. It's why they will not get my vote, ever again.

They lose confidence because the NSA looks them up, and then comes up with something on them, on a friend, on a relative that is used to blackmail, extort and silence them.
Failing that, I am sure the Chicago Nigga Thug  just make sure they their lives aor the lives of those they love are in danger if they don't play along, and then they dangle some carrot of a payoff.

You saw them do it to Roberts, why does anyone suspect that they would hesitate with anyone else.

[Glock32]

Why has the Republican brand been so timid about embracing conservatism?  

because the ones in power in the party aren't conservatives

GOP has gotten away with making conservatives think they are lucky to be in the GOP and the conservatives believe they should be grateful someone let them in.

Conservatives should stop be apologetic about being for the Constitution, marriage, family, etc. Unfortunately, being unapologetic may mean crossing family and friends, co-workers, etc and that is why many stay silent.

Anyone willing to upset the apple cart by opening her/his mouth is going to run right into the "smoother-overs" as well as crossing the opposition.  I believe y'all know the "smoother-over" types; they may or probably agree with Conservative positions, but would rather have peace, so if you -- as in, the general "you" -- are seen as the "shtstorm" in the room, you will be hushed up instead of backed up.

Been there, done that, got the label.  Actually, I chose it and I wear it proudly, but it do get lonely.

Yes, and that's where the "this is not the hill to die on"-ers come from. That damn cop out just summarizes everything wrong with them. It might as well be their epitaph.

[Libertas]

The first part of this article outlining what could happen could have been written by any of us...the rest could have been ghost written by The Butthead.  The damned message is always the same, no 3rd way, don't throw the baby out with the bath water, you need the GOP structure, blah blah blah.  Up his!  Tea Partiers tried that approach, only to be marginalized and ostracized by the GOP Old Guard, backstabbed by Big Govt Pubbies and Ruling Class whores in primaries and general elections...their message totally ridiculed and ignored by feckless wonders!  Screw that noise!  Oh and hey the naive part is shown by thinking the "what could happen" can be avoided if we just trust these GOP asshats one...more...time.  To Hell with that stupidity!  My advice for this clown is the same advice for all of us...prepare for the worst, do not compromise your principles, they need us more than we need them...a slow death is not any better than a fast one...and ignoring to plan for the worst and cling to foolish hopes of peaceful restoration will only leave you shocked, disappointed and ill-equiped to deal with new realities.

[AlanS]

The first part of this article outlining what could happen could have been written by any of us...the rest could have been ghost written by The Butthead.  The damned message is always the same, no 3rd way, don't throw the baby out with the bath water, you need the GOP structure, blah blah blah.  Up his!  Tea Partiers tried that approach, only to be marginalized and ostracized by the GOP Old Guard, backstabbed by Big Govt Pubbies and Ruling Class whores in primaries and general elections...their message totally ridiculed and ignored by feckless wonders!  Screw that noise!  Oh and hey the naive part is shown by thinking the "what could happen" can be avoided if we just trust these GOP asshats one...more...time.  To Hell with that stupidity!  My advice for this clown is the same advice for all of us...prepare for the worst, do not compromise your principles, they need us more than we need them...a slow death is not any better than a fast one...and ignoring to plan for the worst and cling to foolish hopes of peaceful restoration will only leave you shocked, disappointed and ill-equiped to deal with new realities.

Yeah, what he said...