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Tom Clancy
« on: October 02, 2013, 09:45:40 AM »
Tom Clancy, 66

He was on top of the world, 15 years ago or so, to be replaced (in my mind, anyway) by Vince Flynn.  Now they're both gone, too early.  :'(


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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 10:59:29 AM »
Bummer. Far too young. RIP.
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 11:17:29 AM »
Yeah, liked his earlier books...the tag-team stuff of recent years I took a pass on.  But 66 is damn young.  RIP.   ::USA::
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 12:14:59 PM »
Yeah, liked his earlier books...the tag-team stuff of recent years I took a pass on.  But 66 is damn young.  RIP.   ::USA::


Agreed. His Study in Command series was excellent - an insight into senior military leadership. Not 100% sure, but I suspect a lot of that tag-team stuff was written by up-and-comers, with Clancy's periodic "assistance." I could be wrong about that.
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 12:22:58 PM »
Orson Scott Card has a great write up about the "tag team" writing.  It's just as I thought.  The Named author writes an outline, and an unknown fleshes it out.  It's done for easy royalties, and to keep a Named author's name in the news.

OSC also called 99.99% of such efforts, total crap.

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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 01:26:20 PM »
We'll miss ya.   :'(
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 03:08:13 PM »
Orson Scott Card has a great write up about the "tag team" writing.  It's just as I thought.  The Named author writes an outline, and an unknown fleshes it out.  It's done for easy royalties, and to keep a Named author's name in the news.

OSC also called 99.99% of such efforts, total crap.

I won't read those books.
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 10:43:45 PM »
I was surprised to hear he was only 66.  He always seemed older when I saw him on TV (he has appeared on a few shows on History and the Military Channel). These days 66 is pretty young.  I've always liked the Hunt for Red October, even with that prick Alec Baldwin in it.  RIP.
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 10:25:11 AM »
I met Mr Clancy briefly while he was doing his research for "Red Storm Rising," he visited USS Caron and was touring the ship with Captain Polk.  He asked the skipper what class Soviet submarine he'd like the ship to take out in the story.  I don't know if this was the Captain's first choice but in RSR Caron nailed a Tango class diesel-electric.  At the time Tango was one of the quietest boats in Soviet service and thus one of the hardest to track.

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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2013, 10:37:49 AM »
Orson Scott Card has a great write up about the "tag team" writing.  It's just as I thought.  The Named author writes an outline, and an unknown fleshes it out.  It's done for easy royalties, and to keep a Named author's name in the news.

OSC also called 99.99% of such efforts, total crap.

I won't read those books.

I won't either. Absolute rubbish. Hack work.
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2013, 10:42:11 AM »
He was on top of the world, 15 years ago or so, to be replaced (in my mind, anyway) by Vince Flynn.  Now they're both gone, too early.  :'(



Yeah, I would say that Clancy was gone a decade ago. I gave up on him after he wrote, "The Bear and the Dragon." It was okay but you could tell that it was lacking the effort that he had given previous novels. "The Teeth of the Tiger" sort of confirmed that.

I moved on to Vince Flynn and yeah, now he is gone, too.
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 09:03:08 AM »
So who should I check out first?  Lee Child or Brad Thor?  One of them now has to pick up the slack.

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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2013, 11:21:24 AM »
Father likes Lee Child, seems ordinary and predictable to me, but maybe I've been spoiled.  Anybody else to choose from?
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2013, 12:00:33 PM »
I haven't read Brad Thor's latest book.  The one before that I thought was a little too on the nose for me.  He's really been enthusiastic about his last few being so current with the news and what's happening in the world.  The downside in the last one I read was that it came across to me as a lecture in a couple of the chapters. BUT overall I like his work.  Start with the first it's good and go from there.

I've tried a few times to read Lee Child.  I don't know what it is.  I have one on my shelf and I want to try again.

I've wandered through several of Ludlum's.  They're dense and wordy, lacking in the current contemporary style. Sometimes that suits my mood.

I'm afraid Vince Flynn spoiled me.
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 07:01:35 AM »
Read a lot of Ludlum when I was in the Navy...he was prolific back then, and I guess the time place and style suited my life then, which consisted of long periods of boredom punctuated by frantic moments of chaos, and it was just natural to flow into Clancy's early works.

Vince Flynn I enjoyed a lot, plus being a local guy you kind of felt contemporary with him, but I also enjoy many of the works by Nelson DeMille, Stephen Hunter (the Bob Lee Swagger series), I don't think the latter two have anything new out so I seem to be in a searching mode since the passing of Flynn.
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Re: Tom Clancy
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Re: Tom Clancy
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2013, 09:42:06 AM »
Andrew Grant (Lee Child's younger brother) has 2 books.  I read Die Twice and it's ok.

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