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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #480 on: April 17, 2013, 06:41:57 AM »
Thanks for all the info, keep it coming. I'm thinking for me it is more prepping than investing.

The engineer in me has another question.  At the APMEX link earlier they advertise rounds of 1 oz. .999 Fine Silver, the description says 39mm diameter X 3.2mm thick.  So I created a CAD model of this round applied silver as the material and that size and material weighs 1.289 Troy ounces (1.414 standard oz.).  Seems like something is amiss.  Anyone?

It should be by mass, and while CO is right, many Coins are coin silver - something stamped .999 pure should be exactly  that by mass. - and weigh pretty close to  10.49 gm/ cubic centimeter. . So My only guess is that the dimensions given aren't really that accurate   The design  may add/remove some volume as well making such measurements general and not specific.. . It should weigh one troy oz when you receive it because that what was struck in the first place if the mint was any good.



They are rounds but they still have designs, the dimensions must not be taking into consideration the recess for images/engravings, most have raised edges like coins.  Even the bars can have that characterstic.
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #481 on: April 17, 2013, 06:59:46 AM »
Many taking advantage of the chaos -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-16/indias-response-gold-sell-buying-frenzy

Seems to continue the demand theme -

http://www.gold.org/investment/statistics/demand_and_supply_statistics/

ETA - Global frenzy! (I just love that term!)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-17/gold-buying-frenzy-continues-china-japan-and-australia-scramble-physical

It's like those birds in that cartoon..."Mine! Mine! Mine!"! 
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #482 on: April 21, 2013, 12:45:50 PM »
More on the physical feeding frenzy -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-20/10-signs-paper-gold-crash-unleashed-unprecedented-demand-physical-gold-and-silver

I have a boating trip scheduled for tomorrow.   ;)
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #483 on: April 21, 2013, 01:09:14 PM »
Looks like I've been on your coattails all day.

Where is the gold 

Where is the gold
You said you'd give to me
Soon as you were free
Will it ever be
Where is the gold?

You told me that you didn't love it,
And you were gonna say goodbye
But if you really didn't mean it,
Why did you have to lie?

Where is the gold ,
You said was mine all mine, till the end of time
Was it just a lie
Where is the gold

If you had had a sudden change of heart
I wish that you would tell me so
Don't leave me hangin on the promises
You've got to let me know

Where is the gold

Oh how I wish I never met you
I guess it must have been my fate
To fall in love with someone else's gold
All I can do is wait
(that's all I can do)
Yeah yeah yeah

Where is the gold
Where is the gold


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #484 on: April 22, 2013, 12:55:39 PM »

Last week, Arizona lawmakers passed a bill that makes precious metals legal tender. Arizona is the second state after Utah to allow gold coins created by the U.S. Mint and private mints to be used as currency. More than a dozen states have legislature underway to pass similar measures.

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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #485 on: April 22, 2013, 06:00:05 PM »
...and silver, don't forget that.   ::thumbsup::

MOAR!   ::whoohoo::
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #486 on: April 24, 2013, 08:30:57 PM »
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #487 on: April 24, 2013, 10:10:22 PM »

The ETF/physical is playing close to your vision.

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SILVER 04/24/2013 17:15 23.16 23.26

Think I'm going to pay a visit to the G&S shop tomorrow.

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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #488 on: April 25, 2013, 06:45:15 AM »
Sounds like a good plan, let us know what availabilty and markup are like. 
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #489 on: April 25, 2013, 02:37:59 PM »
JPMC empties bank vault of Gold

No seriously. Did they take it down? Were they forced to in order to cover other things? If so, wouldn't they be smart enough to sell it a little at a time to get the most gain? Or did they just not have time to? Or did they just move it to a new location knowing that the vault will soon be empty?

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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #490 on: April 25, 2013, 04:43:59 PM »
Second to last option could be in play, I heard from more than one source that central banks are hoarding up.
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #491 on: April 26, 2013, 01:49:39 PM »
Damn, this is good!

Total Net gold deliveries Feb 1 to April 25:

Vision Financial – 1 contract
R J O’Brien – 2
ADM Investor Services INC – 2
Marex – 5
Citigroup Global Markets – 10
ABN AMRO – 110
JP Morgan – 19,660

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-26/jpmorgan-accounts-993-comex-gold-sales-last-three-months

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The lecture on GLD is gold, gold Jerry, gold!   ;D
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #492 on: May 19, 2013, 06:25:03 PM »

Commodities Now


The Hong Kong Mercantile Exchange (HKMEx) announces today it has decided to voluntarily surrender the authorisation to provide automated trading services (“ATS”) granted by the Securities and Futures Commission (“the SFC”). With immediate effect, no new orders may be placed and all open positions will be financially settled at the settlement price determined by HKMEx and its designated clearinghouse.

More of that tangible vs intangible.


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #493 on: May 19, 2013, 07:11:25 PM »
It's all about control...makes it easier to manipulate the game.
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #494 on: May 30, 2013, 07:24:34 AM »
Many of the comments are spot on...some short, some long...in many ways better than the article, although the article does give a halfway decent breakdown of various types of players...but bottom line - the PTBs are doing all they can to manipulate markets and prop up currencies...and they are not shy about hoarding up on barbarous relic after the trees and bushes are vigorously shaken.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-29/understanding-gold-market-dynamics
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #495 on: May 31, 2013, 07:20:12 AM »
Stairway to Hell....nice...but aparently quite true in this case.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-30/things-make-you-go-hhmm-our-current-bizarro-world
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #496 on: June 16, 2013, 03:59:37 PM »

http://www.kitco.com/reports/KitcoNews20130614DeC_metalsOutlook.html
Federal Open Market Committee is meeting this Tuesday and Wednesday.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fomc.asp ...Definition of 'Federal Open Market Committee - FOMC'

The branch of the Federal Reserve Board that determines the direction of monetary policy. The FOMC is composed of the board of governors, which has seven members, and five reserve bank presidents. The president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York serves continuously, while the presidents of the other reserve banks rotate their service of one-year terms.
...
The FOMC meets eight times per year to set key interest rates, such as the discount rate, and to decide whether to increase or decrease the money supply, which the Fed does by buying and selling government securities. For example, to tighten the money supply, or decrease the amount of money available in the banking system, the Fed sells government securities. The meetings of the committee, which are secret, are the subject of much speculation on Wall Street, as analysts try to guess whether the Fed will tighten or loosen the money supply, thereby causing interest rates to rise or fall.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Open_Market_Committee ...Membership

The Federal Open Market Committee was formed by the Banking Act of 1933 (codified at 12 U.S.C. § 263), and did not include voting rights for the Board of Governors. The Banking Act of 1935 revised these protocols to include the Board of Governors and to closely resemble the present-day FOMC, and was amended in 1942 to give the current structure of twelve voting members:[3] the seven members of the Federal Reserve Board and five of the twelve Federal Reserve Bank presidents.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York president always sits on the Committee, and the other presidents serve one-year terms on a rotating basis. The rotating seats are filled from the following four groups of banks, one bank president from each group: Boston, Philadelphia, and Richmond; Cleveland and Chicago; Atlanta, St. Louis, and Dallas; and Minneapolis, Kansas City, and San Francisco.

All of the Reserve Bank presidents, even those who are not currently voting members of the FOMC, attend Committee meetings, participate in discussions, and contribute to the Committee's assessment of the economy and policy options. The Committee meets eight times a year, approximately once every six weeks.

I like the part about it being a New Deal, Collectivist ram job on capitalism, on our free Republic.



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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #497 on: June 16, 2013, 07:36:52 PM »
1933 was a suck year.  So was 1913 IIRC.  Been a passel of 'em since.   ::outrage::
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #498 on: July 05, 2013, 01:19:26 PM »

Hey, hey, hey, today is not a bad day if anyone is interested.
I'm shootin' fer Tuesday.

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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #499 on: July 06, 2013, 02:22:24 PM »

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