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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #120 on: August 26, 2011, 10:08:58 AM »

The Bernank let it ride, thought he would help it along.  Surprise, surprise.


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #121 on: August 29, 2011, 08:18:30 AM »
20EMA (Exponential Moving Average) -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-has-gold-unwound-its-overbought-status

I agree with a temporary pullback and then the march will go on.

Here's a chart that's a little easier to read -

http://www.trading-naked.com/Powerof20ema.htm

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« Reply #122 on: August 31, 2011, 07:23:28 AM »
More form the "Holy sh*t!" files courtesy of ZeroHedge -

First, the gold/confidence ratio, exhibiting "head & shoulders pattern", we can discuss the assumptions and actual level gold may hit, that it is going up is undeniable...this statement sums it all up quite succinctly - "For the bubble to deflate, the debt must disappear, or the gold price must rise."  Anybody think much debt is going away?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-rise-and-fall-us-confidence-or-why-fair-value-gold-phase-space-6000-12000

Second, silver is poised for another run, possibly hitting $50 this fall.  Lots of good info & charts!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/silver-ready-breakout-technicals-and-fundamentals-suggest-50oz-early-autumn

And there are whispers in the wind that QE3 is poised to release on or about September 21st, so once that gets factored in these two could experience much stronger increases.

ETA - Oh, and BPP at 4% & rising seems it will also be more gas for the fire...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/annual-inflation-hits-4
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« Reply #123 on: August 31, 2011, 10:26:39 AM »
More form the "Holy sh*t!" files courtesy of ZeroHedge -

First, the gold/confidence ratio, exhibiting "head & shoulders pattern", we can discuss the assumptions and actual level gold may hit, that it is going up is undeniable...this statement sums it all up quite succinctly - "For the bubble to deflate, the debt must disappear, or the gold price must rise."  Anybody think much debt is going away?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-rise-and-fall-us-confidence-or-why-fair-value-gold-phase-space-6000-12000

Second, silver is poised for another run, possibly hitting $50 this fall.  Lots of good info & charts!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/silver-ready-breakout-technicals-and-fundamentals-suggest-50oz-early-autumn

And there are whispers in the wind that QE3 is poised to release on or about September 21st, so once that gets factored in these two could experience much stronger increases.

ETA - Oh, and BPP at 4% & rising seems it will also be more gas for the fire...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/annual-inflation-hits-4





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« Reply #124 on: September 01, 2011, 11:41:30 PM »

(Kitco News)
 - The U.S. Mint sold more ounces of gold and silver bullion coins in August than it previously had since January. Total sales of American Eagle gold coins rose to 112,000 ounces in August, the Mint’s Web site shows. This is up 73.6% from 64,500 in July and the most since 133,500 ounces were sold in January. Further, the figure represents a 170% rise from the same month in 2010. However, figures for the year to date are down from last year. ...
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #125 on: September 02, 2011, 07:15:07 AM »
I guess the mint likes devalued currency more than appreciating reserves...either they are batsh*t crazy and will do anything for liquidity or they know something we don't...

As far as that latter part...they know they can confiscate the gold & silver back later and offer only pennies on the dollar since the currency won't be worth crap!  Bastards think they can fleece in both directions!

People should only be buying private bullion!

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« Reply #126 on: September 02, 2011, 09:00:47 AM »

Skimmed something about that a couple of weeks ago, I interpreted it to say others, like the Maple leaf,  were OK.

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« Reply #127 on: September 02, 2011, 09:15:45 AM »
Yes, other nations may not come beating on thier customers doors later demanding them back!

Caveat emptor.
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #128 on: September 22, 2011, 07:30:05 AM »
Frankly, I think there are just so many issues with this sceanrio that making a 1930's FDR-style gold-grab unlikely...but who knows for sure?  Interesting read anyway...

Don Coxe's Fascinating Take On Why The Time For The US To "LBO" The Gold Market Has Arrived
Via ZeroHedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/don-coxes-must-read-take-why-time-us-lbo-gold-market-has-arrived
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #129 on: September 24, 2011, 05:48:19 AM »

They increased the margins because it was too hot, now they are increasing margins because...

23 September 2011, 4:55 p.m.

http://www.kitco.com/

(Kitco News) - The CME Group is raising the margins needed to trade Comex gold and silver futures are being increased by 21.5% and 15.6%, respectively, and the change will take effect after the close of business on Monday, the exchange said late Friday in a press release.


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #130 on: September 25, 2011, 06:22:28 PM »

http://www.kitco.com/
Sep 25, 2011 19:07 NY Time

Bid/Ask    1640.60 -    1641.60
Change    -16.60        -1.00%
30daychg    -188.50    -10.31%

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Reuters

Let's start doing something,'" said Austan Goolsbee, formerly chief White House economic advisor.

"I mean, they're not actually doing anything. They just keep agreeing that they're going to work in concert."


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #131 on: September 26, 2011, 07:08:13 AM »
I'm sure the central bankers and Keynesian's the world over are pleased at this recent pullback in precious metals...but their short-term currency bounce will be short lived, their insanity ensures it.

And the ChiCom's don't want to be left out of the fun either...Shanghai bumped their margins up to 18% -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/shanghai-gold-exchange-hikes-silver-margin-20

Trying to scare the futures traders with shutdowns...tsk, tsk, tsk!

Screw Shanghai and ANY cHI-cOM exchange anyway...if you're trading in that market the term risk averse doesn't exists in your universe!

On a real world note, economic decline is beginning to take its toll on some investors, feeling the pinch they have been selling, this is predictable and will happen occasionally just like the margin games.  Overall what is happening in the Neo-Keynesian banking world and world governments on a fundamental level that can sustain a drop in precious metal prices?  There may be some more downward action, but I foresee another buying binge coming on soon...

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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #132 on: October 03, 2011, 03:05:47 PM »
Gold moving down synonymous with the market is odd.  There have been several rationals
that didn't follow the traditional bs.  Below is a bit of information heretofore unseen.


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The break has provoked a great deal of suspicion. Veteran Ross Norman, now of the U.K. gold-dealing site Sharps Pixley, remarked of the sellers: “Placing such a huge order into the market when the least number of market participants were active tells you that they were out for dramatic effect. Anyone looking to offload significant amounts of metal at the best possible price would have done so when both London and New York were both [open]. … Clearly finessing gold into the market was not their motive — they wanted a statement.“

Manipulation is seems more accurate than the gobble-de-gook about the sell off because of EU fears.


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2011, 09:39:25 PM »
Liquidity fears come and go.  Like everything now, instability is the order of the day, so movements can go from boring to what-the-! at any time.  This reeks of money center manipulation though, shoring up currency to combat debt fears.
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #134 on: October 06, 2011, 10:03:47 AM »

An observer may assume this is one more step toward gold becoming the reserve currency.

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LCH.Clearnet To Accept Gold As Collateral

(Kitco News) - LCH.Clearnet, the London-based clearing house, says it will begin to accept gold bullion as eligible collateral by the end of the month, subject to final regulatory approval. The firm says by offering gold for margin liability, it gives its market participants more flexibility. The initiative is supported by the World Gold Council, who recently submitted evidence to the Basel Committee for gold to be included in banks' "Tier 1" assets by European banking regulators. The gold will be lodged in vaults in London. The quality and fineness of the 400-troy ounce gold bars will be based on the LBMA Good Delivery List. In December 2010, LCH.Clearnet launched the first clearing service for the over-the-counter wholesale London gold market in a joint initiative with the London Metal Exchange.

By Debbie Carlson of Kitco News dcarlson@kitcodotcom


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #135 on: October 06, 2011, 11:52:26 AM »
Hmmm....

I wonder what those without gold to back up their currency might be subject to...I guess we'll find out.
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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #136 on: October 14, 2011, 07:53:34 AM »
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« Reply #137 on: October 14, 2011, 05:53:02 PM »

Very interesting article, here's a fun tidbit:

The world of 2011 is very different to that of 1980.

In 1980, the US was the world’s largest creditor nation. Today, it is the world’s largest debtor nation – the largest debtor nation the world has ever seen.

In 1980, China was a communist country whose citizens were banned from owning gold. Today, there are 1.3 billion Chinese people and a growing middle class who can buy gold.

The Chinese central bank did not have any currency reserves in 1980, today they have $3.2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves.

Similarly, India, China, Brazil and other emerging markets were debtor nations in 1980 today they are creditor nations with massive foreign exchange reserves denominated primarily in dollars.

In 1980, the much of the world was coming out of a period recession and stagflation. Today, we appear to be on the verge of a recession or Depression possibly involving stagflation again.

In 1980, there was no banking or sovereign debt crisis and no risk of global financial and economic contagion.


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Re: Just commodities
« Reply #138 on: October 15, 2011, 01:03:14 PM »
And the wheel turns...

...and it doesn't care what it crushes or carries...


...it just keeps rolling.
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« Reply #139 on: October 16, 2011, 01:47:51 PM »

14 October 2011, 2:16 p.m.

In the Kitco News Gold Survey, out of 34 participants, 25 responded this week. Of those 25 participants, 21 see prices up, while three see prices down and one sees prices sideways or unchanged. Market participants include bullion dealers, investment banks, futures traders and technical chart analysts.


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