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whimsicalmamapig:
It has dawned on me in the past few years to re-evaluate my opinions of all the movies I have enjoyed in my life.

By this, I mean that I have revisited many of them and have viewed them in the light of what "political" or "social" messages that were being pushed by a very leftist Hollywood. I find this verging on paranoia on my part, but I can't help but consider how young minds were systematically inculcated with values and lifestyles that have had tragic consequences in light of the current state of our culture.

I would be interested in viewing other people's thoughts on this subject. I have even been re-reading college textbooks and finding definite slants in interpretations of history and now if an archeological text refers to global warming and man's impact on the planet, I just quit reading it as I know it is packed with agenda driven ideas that I do not want to take the time to sort out.

should some conservative think tank initiate a study on the propaganda in 1950-1970 tv and movie productions that influenced the "hippie movements that greatly helped create the mess we are in.  after all, the beach boys music was all about the self and youth's quest for self-fulfillment. how many songs from this period speak to any thing other than self gratification?

it is almost as if the secret socialist attempt to control our government was working separately but parallel to the growing narcissism of a generation that was given too much of everything, including idle time.

LadyVirginia:
I don't know about old movies but this book:
Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TVdetails how even the old shows you might consider old-fashioned and traditional often had a liberal agenda.

He quotes several tv show creators who openly stated that their goal was to change society through their shows.

IronDioPriest:
A couple examples of movies that have taken on a whole new meaning for me after re-watching with a conservative eye are "American History X" and "Dances With Wolves".

Both are films I took at face value when I first saw them. Both are absolute Leftist propaganda pieces in retrospect.

Re; AHX, how could ANYONE side with Ed Norton's awful portrayal of a murdering neo-Nazi with a swaztika tattooed on his chest? Cleverly, what Oliver Stone did was attach mainstream conservative opinions about immigration, race, and welfare to Norton's loathsome Derek Vinyard character. That puts me in the position of identifying my own views with this loathsome character. If I was an ideologically unaware person or a young person, I might not make that connection, and might instead believe that those mainstream views are the radical hateful views.

For instance, when Vinyard went off an a diatribe about illegal aliens, it began as an open dinner-table discussion and calm recitation of the mainstream conservative viewpoint, but it then escalated, and ended with Vinyard spewing spittle-flecked racial epithets, and physically abusing his sister and mother.

That kind of propaganda makes up almost the entire film - the mainstream conservative view is articulated, and then the actions and words of the person averring it are heinous.

"Dances With Wolves" is one long homage to the "White man bad/Indian good" stereotype, and the idea that the only way a White man can be good is to the degree that he is like an Indian.

Both movies are beloved by me. I am emotionally moved by both, and think the films and performances are stellar. But yeah. Seeing them now is totally different than when I first saw them.

On the other end of the spectrum is a film like "Rocky". There is no question in retrospect that the Rocky story is Christian allegory.

It is no mistake that the very first thing you see is the face of Jesus Christ on a mural, and the entire story is filled with Rocky living out Christian principles such as Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

He is everlastingly devoted to his wife until her death. He shows kindness to the poor. He advises young people to abandon poor behavior. He is moved by his conscience. He is honest. He is patient and slow to anger. He does not lash out in retribution. He prays before every fight. He never curses. He forgives, and is quick to do so.

It couldn't be more clear to me that Sylvester Stallone was either stealthily working a Christian message into the series, or, he was used by Holy Spirit to bring that character to the screen. Either way, once I saw it, I could never unsee it. The film (and to a somewhat lesser extent, the entire series) took on a whole new meaning for me.

LadyVirginia:
Dances with Wolves--I suspected it's message was liberal so never saw it.
Much the same with many, many other movies.

IronDioPriest:

--- Quote from: LadyVirginia on October 15, 2013, 04:45:44 PM ---Dances with Wolves--I suspected it's message was liberal so never saw it.
Much the same with many, many other movies.

--- End quote ---

Even still, it's an absolutely beautiful movie. The musical score alone is worth watching the movie. The score set against the vast plains of South Dakota takes your breath away.

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