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Preppers Are A Cult?
« on: October 28, 2013, 10:24:58 AM »
Just ran across this article and had to laugh. Prepping is now a cult, I guess. LOL.

Penn State Professor Accuses Preppers Of Cult-Like Behavior

http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/05/02/penn-state-professor-accuses-prepper-of-cult-like-behavior/

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Preppers are a cult, according to a Penn State professor who has been studying the prepping concept. Dr. Peter Behrens feels that anyone who stockpiles more than seventy-two hours’ worth of supplies is paranoid. The learned professor thinks there are three tiers of prepping: pastime, preoccupation, and pathology. I imagine he would see the errors in his thinking about day five into a civil unrest scenario.

During a recent interview, Dr. Behrens made this sweeping comparison. The Penn State professor thinks that anyone spending more than 10 percent of their time on firearms training, and garnering supplies and resources, has ventured into the dreaded “pathological prepping” zone. I spend more than 10 percent of my time any given week taking care of my rescued tortoises; perhaps I am also a part of some weird reptile cult and just did not realize it.

Even the folks at FEMA now suggest keeping three weeks’ worth of emergency supplies on hand. But Dr. Behrens feels that preppers who think having more than seventy-two hours of necessary food and supplies on hand also possess “special shorthand unique to the group.” Apparently using the phrase “bug out” qualifies as shorthand and is an indicator of cult-like behavior. The good doctor also feels that preppers have a collective “us-versus-them” mindset. For an educated man who has supposedly spent many hours researching the habits of preppers, he sure is ill-informed. Read more
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2013, 10:33:29 AM »
"Professor of Abnormal Psychology."

He can teach with personal experience in that weirdo section of society.


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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 10:37:12 AM »
What a knob. Preppers are nearly the antithesis of a cult: Putting no faith in charismatic leaders; recognizing ultimate self-responsibility; decision-making apart from any accepted norms within ones broader community or social circle; aversion to unnecessary gatherings; acting in ones own interest with secondary regard for those outside ones direct responsibility.

How is any of that cult-like in the least?

The ONLY way I can see that he could arrive at this conclusion is to say that because Mormons prep, that preppers are cultists. And that is just plain bigotry. Mormons may not have things theologically "right" in the view of some, but their behavior is not cultish in the least.

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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2013, 10:46:24 AM »
What a knob. Preppers are nearly the antithesis of a cult: Putting no faith in charismatic leaders; recognizing ultimate self-responsibility; decision-making apart from any accepted norms within ones broader community or social circle; aversion to unnecessary gatherings; acting in ones own interest with secondary regard for those outside ones direct responsibility.

How is any of that cult-like in the least?

The ONLY way I can see that he could arrive at this conclusion is to say that because Mormons prep, that preppers are cultists. And that is just plain bigotry. Mormons may not have things theologically "right" in the view of some, but their behavior is not cultish in the least.

Yep - I had to laugh when I saw that. It makes no sense and I'll go out on a limb and say that this guy is just another blithering liberal idiot with a title.

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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 10:46:57 AM »
"Professor of Abnormal Psychology."

He can teach with personal experience in that weirdo section of society.


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lol, indeed.

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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 11:37:25 AM »
He just wants preppers catalogued as such so it is easier for the Goobermint to declare them as such and unleash the Stormtroopers upon them and seize their wealth.

This douchenoozzle prof is a statist!
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2013, 04:56:17 PM »
If he's looking for a cult leader he can find one at the next Penn faculty senate meeting: Dr. Michael Mann
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 05:07:37 PM »
If he's looking for a cult leader he can find one at the next Penn faculty senate meeting: Dr. Michael Mann

No doubt.
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2013, 05:22:34 PM »
If he's looking for a cult leader he can find one at the next Penn faculty senate meeting: Dr. Michael Mann


That's the truth. It's the cult like following of Obama which keeps me stocked up on supplies. If not for Obama's declaration of "fundamental change" in America, I wouldn't be so quick to stockpile.
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 07:02:22 PM »
If he's looking for a cult leader he can find one at the next Penn faculty senate meeting: Dr. Michael Mann


That's the truth. It's the cult like following of Obama which keeps me stocked up on supplies. If not for Obama's declaration of "fundamental change" in America, I wouldn't be so quick to stockpile.

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2013, 08:27:33 PM »
  Professor indeed! He looks more like a child molesting douche.Clueless in the extreme with an exagerated sense of his self relavence.
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2013, 08:34:45 PM »
Just ran across this article and had to laugh. Prepping is now a cult, I guess. LOL.

Penn State Professor Accuses Preppers Of Cult-Like Behavior

http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/05/02/penn-state-professor-accuses-prepper-of-cult-like-behavior/

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Preppers are a cult, according to a Penn State professor who has been studying the prepping concept. Dr. Peter Behrens feels that anyone who stockpiles more than seventy-two hours’ worth of supplies is paranoid. The learned professor thinks there are three tiers of prepping: pastime, preoccupation, and pathology. I imagine he would see the errors in his thinking about day five into a civil unrest scenario.

During a recent interview, Dr. Behrens made this sweeping comparison. The Penn State professor thinks that anyone spending more than 10 percent of their time on firearms training, and garnering supplies and resources, has ventured into the dreaded “pathological prepping” zone. I spend more than 10 percent of my time any given week taking care of my rescued tortoises; perhaps I am also a part of some weird reptile cult and just did not realize it.

Even the folks at FEMA now suggest keeping three weeks’ worth of emergency supplies on hand. But Dr. Behrens feels that preppers who think having more than seventy-two hours of necessary food and supplies on hand also possess “special shorthand unique to the group.” Apparently using the phrase “bug out” qualifies as shorthand and is an indicator of cult-like behavior. The good doctor also feels that preppers have a collective “us-versus-them” mindset. For an educated man who has supposedly spent many hours researching the habits of preppers, he sure is ill-informed. Read more
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I guess when TSHTF, Dr. Peter won't be asking to join a cult?
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 07:20:15 PM »
Just ran across this article and had to laugh. Prepping is now a cult, I guess. LOL.

Penn State Professor Accuses Preppers Of Cult-Like Behavior

http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/05/02/penn-state-professor-accuses-prepper-of-cult-like-behavior/

<snip>
Preppers are a cult, according to a Penn State professor who has been studying the prepping concept. Dr. Peter Behrens feels that anyone who stockpiles more than seventy-two hours’ worth of supplies is paranoid. The learned professor thinks there are three tiers of prepping: pastime, preoccupation, and pathology. I imagine he would see the errors in his thinking about day five into a civil unrest scenario.

During a recent interview, Dr. Behrens made this sweeping comparison. The Penn State professor thinks that anyone spending more than 10 percent of their time on firearms training, and garnering supplies and resources, has ventured into the dreaded “pathological prepping” zone. I spend more than 10 percent of my time any given week taking care of my rescued tortoises; perhaps I am also a part of some weird reptile cult and just did not realize it.

Even the folks at FEMA now suggest keeping three weeks’ worth of emergency supplies on hand. But Dr. Behrens feels that preppers who think having more than seventy-two hours of necessary food and supplies on hand also possess “special shorthand unique to the group.” Apparently using the phrase “bug out” qualifies as shorthand and is an indicator of cult-like behavior. The good doctor also feels that preppers have a collective “us-versus-them” mindset. For an educated man who has supposedly spent many hours researching the habits of preppers, he sure is ill-informed. Read more
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I guess when TSHTF, Dr. Peter won't be asking to join a cult?


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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 07:35:17 PM »
College and university "professors" are a cult.  ::stirpot::
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2013, 07:51:56 PM »
Topsy-Turvy. We're branded. Evil seeks to destroy good. Boy Scouts, churches, Christianity, Tea Party. Interestingly (really characteristically) they won't attack the Islamic faith...because they know they'll have their heads handed to them....literally.


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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2013, 09:26:37 PM »
While we are on the topic of preppers and prepping...

I have made it a point to watch "Doomsday Preppers" for the last several months. I have seen most of the previous episodes and, so far, all of this current season. My observations: Who is the target audience for this show? I find it hard to believe that preppers themselves are the target audience because of two things. 1) There seems to be no advertisements that are aimed at preppers and 2) the show seems to go out of its way to subtly mock those who prep.

The lack of prepper advertising is blatant and undeniable. And it's not like there aren't a LOT of prepper products and manufacturers out there...there are. The big prominent ones like Wise Foods and Food Insurance you would think would be completely in the bag for this show. They may advertise on occasion but they don't advertise on a regular basis. Vendors like this should be practically underwriting the show but they are not.

As to the way the show displays preppers...that is sort of undeniable, as well. They seem to pick preppers to profile who are borderline goofy to outright nuts. Witness the guy who is prepping for a "continental shift." That's insane. I could list lots more but so could you. The other telltale is the epilogue of each show where the show's producers announce "the odds" of whatever catastrophe the profiled prepper is prepping for. Inevitably, each and every single time "the odds" are that the catastrophe will almost never happen. Now in the case of massive and sudden "continental shift," I agree. But...I see more and more people listing their reason for prepping as "economic collapse" whether it be national or global. Now that's the catastrophe that I am expecting and yet, "Doomsday Preppers" says that no way is it going to happen. Huh?

Well, anyway...I still watch the show because even though I have to ignore a lot of the unnecessary drama I do occasionally see something of interest or use.

But as to the larger question...is prepping a cult? No. Not by the classical definition. There is no cult leader and there is no cult indoctrination. And there certainly is no cult behavior. The behavior of preppers is methodical and determined but hardly cult-like. So my vote is "no."
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2013, 10:39:43 PM »
Doomsday professors.
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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2013, 06:36:05 AM »
Just ran across this article and had to laugh. Prepping is now a cult, I guess. LOL.

Penn State Professor Accuses Preppers Of Cult-Like Behavior

http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/05/02/penn-state-professor-accuses-prepper-of-cult-like-behavior/

<snip>
Preppers are a cult, according to a Penn State professor who has been studying the prepping concept. Dr. Peter Behrens feels that anyone who stockpiles more than seventy-two hours’ worth of supplies is paranoid. The learned professor thinks there are three tiers of prepping: pastime, preoccupation, and pathology. I imagine he would see the errors in his thinking about day five into a civil unrest scenario.

During a recent interview, Dr. Behrens made this sweeping comparison. The Penn State professor thinks that anyone spending more than 10 percent of their time on firearms training, and garnering supplies and resources, has ventured into the dreaded “pathological prepping” zone. I spend more than 10 percent of my time any given week taking care of my rescued tortoises; perhaps I am also a part of some weird reptile cult and just did not realize it.

Even the folks at FEMA now suggest keeping three weeks’ worth of emergency supplies on hand. But Dr. Behrens feels that preppers who think having more than seventy-two hours of necessary food and supplies on hand also possess “special shorthand unique to the group.” Apparently using the phrase “bug out” qualifies as shorthand and is an indicator of cult-like behavior. The good doctor also feels that preppers have a collective “us-versus-them” mindset. For an educated man who has supposedly spent many hours researching the habits of preppers, he sure is ill-informed. Read more
</snip>

I guess when TSHTF, Dr. Peter won't be asking to join a cult?


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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2013, 07:09:19 AM »
I don't watch the tv show because 'The first rule of prepping is:  You don't talk about prepping'.  And certainly not on national tv.

The target audience?  I'm not sure there is one, but if there is one it's most likely law enforcement and the medical psychiatric community.  What they are doing is demonizing another segment of society that believes in being self-sufficient.  How can the government screw you over help you if you are self-sufficient?  Calling prepping a 'cult' is the first step in declaring prepping a mental disorder, subjecting those who are deemed preppers to lose their RKBA and possibly their children to the state, two among many issues.  Just one more step in the long line of indoctrination to accept tyranny as being 'good for you'.  Plus, by not looking for the government to help, they'll label you 'crazy', because only the crazies would not accept 'free' gub'mint cheese.

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Re: Preppers Are A Cult?
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2013, 11:31:22 AM »
Government has a bigger problem...how many preppers are there really?  I mean serious preppers?  How many gun owners are there?  Nobody is in the state's crosshairs more than gun owners!
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