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« on: October 29, 2013, 11:28:40 AM »
Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com

Scary - just one of the examples:

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290 PERCENT INCREASE IN PREMIUMS…FROM $248/MO TO $968/MO…LOSING CURRENT PLAN “DUE TO ACA REGULATIONS” 290 Percent Increase in Premiums Click image above to see supporting document

I just received my notice from BCBSNC of my new medical insurance premium. I now pay $248.18 for a high-deductible policy for my wife and me. According to the attached, the equivalent policy under ObamaCare will cost me $968.48.”

“I called BCBSNC and they verified that this was not an error or a joke. The letter also listed all the great things I get in return for a premium increase of 290%: maternity & newborn care [I am 55, no more babies planned], dental & vision for children, habilitative [is that a word?] care, and increased benefits for mental health and substance abuse. Clearly we are not going to see a $2,500/year reduction in premiums.

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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 11:41:37 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 11:56:32 AM »
My new favorite word, O'piphany.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 12:44:34 PM »
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Why can’t I keep my insurance?” Because you’re stupid, sweetie.
Okay.  This all goes to my screaming rants that people are responsible for their government.  I’m getting really sick of people acting all indignant and acting like they’re being ambushed by this whole ObamaCare thing.

“Er my gawsh, y’all!  My insurance bill just quadrupled.  I’m serious you guys!”

Well, no kidding.  What in the blue firey blazes did you expect?  Let’s see.  Insurance is risk pooling.  A bunch of people get together and pay a small amount of money into a pool, and then when one of the people has an adverse event happen to them, the frequency of which can be broadly statistically predicted, then the pool pays out to the unlucky person who had the adverse event happen to them.

Now let’s see.  From DAY FLIPPING ONE the Obama regime has been saying that mean old insurance companies will not be able to turn away customers with pre-existing conditions – in other words, insurance companies will have to let people JOIN THE RISK POOL … AFTER THE RISK EVENT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

Um, yeah.  That is the total, complete destruction of the entire insurance paradigm.  This isn’t my opinion.  This is a mathematical fact … an extremely simple and elementary mathematical fact.  If people who have already had the adverse risk event happen to them must be allowed into the risk pool, then it is no longer a risk pool.  It is a wealth redistribution scam that victimizes the TOTAL, COMPLETE MORONS who enter and pay into the “pool” without already having had the risk event happen to them.

How can a nation of 330 million people, iniquitous gutter republic though it may be, not understand this?  How can a nation of 330 million people have their tyrannical regime tell them in no uncertain terms that the entire insurance paradigm is going to be destroyed by said regime, and then when it happens everyone acts all shocked?

Oh, and then add onto that the fact that ObamaCare requires insurance to cover all kinds of bee-ess “preventative” and “elective” services.  Well, if every single person in a risk pool is guaranteed to have a claim because the coverage is no longer for catastrophes, but also for purely non-emergent, elective pseudomedicine and outright quackery, then what do you expect?  The “pool” has to collect more than it pays out.  Period.

Finally, Karl Denninger broke the news today that most ObamaCare-compliant insurance has wicked in-network restrictions.  As in if you receive any healthcare “out of network” you get ZERO coverage – and there is not one word of disclosure of any of this until AFTER you have bought the policy.  And “out of network” has gone from generally meaning within a STATE to within a COUNTY, because, you know, competition is BAD or something.

So let’s recap.  ObamaCare requires you to pay for slaughtering babies.  We have known this for years.  It utterly destroys the insurance paradigm by mathematical definition and necessity.  We have known this since day one because it is a pure function of logic and math.  Doctors and health professionals are retiring and quitting by the thousands.  This has been happening for years.  Your insurance premiums, which are now “mandatory” according to the state – yes, the state is now dictating to you that you MUST purchase a SERVICE COMMODITY as a condition of LEGALLY WAKING UP BREATHING in the iniquitous gutter republic and steaming satanic cesspit of baby-killing, sodomy and theft formerly known as the united states of america, have now skyrocketed, and you would have to be dumber than a box of hair to not see that coming.

Well, at what point does the inability to think through excruciatingly simple logical progressions and their inevitable consequences become moral culpability?  At what point does the tolerance of the utterly irrational call down the thunder upon one’s own head?  At what point does shrugging one’s shoulders at the blood-soaked ground beneath one’s own feet and muttering some sissy bee-ess about “not having any choice” become full-blown cooperation?

Right now.  Right. Flipping. Now.

ObamaCare is yours now.  YOU personally own it, because you refuse to do ANYTHING to stop it, and you have known from day one what it was and thus what it would do.

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Step 4 should have happened YEARS ago.

Please note that sitting on your butt and sending emails to all of your friends saying, “Isn’t this awful,” and, “Someone really should do something about this,” isn’t accomplishing anything, and your inaction is emboldening the enemy with each passing day.

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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2013, 07:35:08 PM »
My new favorite word, O'piphany.

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I figured you'd like that!

See Ted's latest quip about Stymie?

Idiot Ramos grilling Ted over comments Ted's father made...where was this jackass when friends of SCoaMF were saying crap?  Plus, I thought libiots always promoted the relativity test...gotta be in those shoes blah blah blah...Ted's father knows a dictator when he sees one, Ramos you jackass!  Anyway...

I think he has absolutely been abusing his power and when you have a president who says "regardless of whether Congress acts I'm going to force my agenda on the American people," that's wrong, that's not consistent with our constitutional protections.
http://fusion.net/justice/story/ted-cruz-obama-absolutely-abusing-power-165870

Hell yeah that clown is abusing power every damned day!
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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2013, 07:49:33 PM »
Neil Cavuto rips Obbie a new one & then biotch-slaps President shoe-shine boy:

http://therightscoop.com/watch-neil-cavutos-fantastic-monologue-summing-up-how-americans-feel-about-obama/
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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 07:43:06 AM »
When Cavuto is allowed to get his blood up he can be quite good at scathing critique!

Unfortunately given our feckless Pubbie leadership across the nation...this is the extent of our joyful moments...

In the face of so much mounting tyranny, oppression, corruption and lies...we are unable to do anything materially constructive to stop one damned bit of it!

I guess God has forsaken us because we have forsaken Him...

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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 11:34:51 AM »
My new favorite word, O'piphany.

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I figured you'd like that!

See Ted's latest quip about Stymie?

Idiot Ramos grilling Ted over comments Ted's father made...where was this jackass when friends of SCoaMF were saying crap?  Plus, I thought libiots always promoted the relativity test...gotta be in those shoes blah blah blah...Ted's father knows a dictator when he sees one, Ramos you jackass!  Anyway...

I think he has absolutely been abusing his power and when you have a president who says "regardless of whether Congress acts I'm going to force my agenda on the American people," that's wrong, that's not consistent with our constitutional protections.
http://fusion.net/justice/story/ted-cruz-obama-absolutely-abusing-power-165870

Hell yeah that clown is abusing power every damned day!

How about Osh*thead?
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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 11:40:26 AM »
I was just out driving around listening to Rush list [again] the exemptions to unions, Congress, etc. for Obmacare – and had a thought…

…is there any way “Equal Protection” could come into play in a lawsuit against the administration/government for not being equally protected/insulated from the devastating effects of this legislation.  It would almost be a reverse variant of equal protection as usually the plaintiff is seeking the same rights as another group.

Does anyone have insight or knowledge of how this might work?
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 11:45:47 AM »
Still lying their asses off without any shame whatsoever!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/sebelius-testifies-obama-kept-his-promise-americans-arent-losing-health-care-plans-video/

These criminals need to have their asses beaten into mush!
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 11:53:26 AM »
I was just out driving around listening to Rush list [again] the exemptions to unions, Congress, etc. for Obmacare – and had a thought…

…is there any way “Equal Protection” could come into play in a lawsuit against the administration/government for not being equally protected/insulated from the devastating effects of this legislation.  It would almost be a reverse variant of equal protection as usually the plaintiff is seeking the same rights as another group.

Does anyone have insight or knowledge of how this might work?

Not a lawyer, didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night either.  Maybe LV could sort it out for us.

I wish Levin would discuss it.

I do know there are a couple-few lawsuits in the pipeline, however.
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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2013, 07:37:26 AM »
Obamacare is a trainwreck, let us count the ways!

And if my ears didn't deceive me I heard a report this AM where the SCoaMF was bad-mouthing insurance companies for dropping polices...when it is ObamaCare provisions driving the damned drops in the first place!!!

And, now there is this report thay shows the Obama Regime is actively intimidating insurance companies to STFU about ObamaCare provisions causing these problems!

Seriously, how f**king stupid do these insurance exec's have to be to be bullied in private to STFU on one hand and then bullied in public for dropping insurance policies becuase of ObamaCare and take this sh*t sitting down?!  If each and every one of them does not speak out they need to go blow their brains out for being such useless statist puppets!!!

How much more of this lying and intimidation do people have to fricken take?

People in this nation are proving themselves to be too stupid to live!

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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2013, 10:24:18 AM »
I think there's merit in the argument. 

But law is a game. So who knows.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2013, 12:00:26 PM »
Obama and his merry band of ghouls knew in 2010 millions would be booted off their plans by ODumbshytCare!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/10/31/forbes-obama-officials-predicted-2010-93-million-would-lose-health-pl

But choom-sucking community organizers with deep muzzie and radical ties of a certain skin shade and of the right political party cannot be guilty of lying or treason, so...sucks not to be him, eh?!
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2013, 07:12:13 PM »
Obamacare is a trainwreck, let us count the ways!

And if my ears didn't deceive me I heard a report this AM where the SCoaMF was bad-mouthing insurance companies for dropping polices...when it is ObamaCare provisions driving the damned drops in the first place!!!

And, now there is this report thay shows the Obama Regime is actively intimidating insurance companies to STFU about ObamaCare provisions causing these problems!

Seriously, how f**king stupid do these insurance exec's have to be to be bullied in private to STFU on one hand and then bullied in public for dropping insurance policies becuase of ObamaCare and take this sh*t sitting down?!  If each and every one of them does not speak out they need to go blow their brains out for being such useless statist puppets!!!

How much more of this lying and intimidation do people have to fricken take?

People in this nation are proving themselves to be too stupid to live!

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Re: Interesting - www.icouldntkeepmyplan.com
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2013, 10:47:29 AM »
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) ... is requesting $803.5 million for operations and management of the Obamacare exchanges ... so that, among other things, CMS can “ensure the integrity of programs that redistribute tens of billions of dollars.”

... and “data mining techniques” to make sure the right people are benefiting from the new system of health-insurance subsidies set up by the Affordable Care Act."

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obamacare-fy14-budget-ensure-integrity-programs-redistribute-tens#sthash.PQVJdaJX.dpuf

Nothing but a huge wealth redistribution scheme.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2013, 11:04:24 AM »
Forced reparations.

Wars have (and should) begin over such things!

Oh, and CMS are asshats, have peripheral contact with them, even then I feel soiled and become overwhelmed with a sudden desire to beat an asshat senseless...
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2013, 11:36:18 AM »
And the lies just keep coming out!!!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/white-house-website-still-lying-insists-you-can-keep-your-health-insurance-under-obamacare-video/

WTF does it take to rise up and crush these National Socialists into mush?!?!?!
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2013, 12:47:25 PM »
Yeah they're trying to say that "if you like your health plan you can keep it" is still accurate because it's somehow not their doing if the plan providers cancel it. Just more of their legalistic word manipulation, like when Obongo said raising the debt ceiling doesn't cause an increase in the debt.
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