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Offline Fritz Pettyjohn

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Article V to the rescue
« on: November 05, 2013, 04:56:46 PM »
On Oct. 30 the Ohio State Senate voted 29-3 in favor of a resolution calling for a constitutional convention for the sole purpose of proposing a balanced budget amendment.  We're looking for a similar result soon from other states.  We've got 16, need 18 more.  Go to bba4usa.org to learn about this effort.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2013, 05:24:03 PM »
Excellent news.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2013, 11:51:36 AM »
I am seriously considering taking an active role in getting this off the ground.

This site may be of interest to those interested in ConCon:

http://www.conventionofstates.com/news/indiana-state-legislature-working-towards-convention-states

Indiana Senate President David Long has invited lawmakers from every state to a summit on Dec. 7 to discuss a Convention of States, NWI Politics reports.

“The authors of the Constitution included a state-led amendment option as a check on a runaway federal government,” Long said. “The dysfunction we see in Washington, D.C., provides an almost daily reminder of why this option is needed now more than ever.”

The initial meeting won't actually consider potential amendment topics, Long said. Instead, it's intended to set up the rules to be followed if and when a constitutional convention is called.

More at the Link.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2013, 11:55:31 AM »
Not to spill the beans...but I would like to get involved too...and attend if at all possible any national convention that convenes...and hope to have a John Adams c.July1776 moment, IYKWIMAITYD! 
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2013, 02:17:48 PM »
No.  No Constitutional Convention.  It's got to be, and known as, an Article V Convention, period.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2013, 03:58:49 PM »
Quote from: Pandora on November 08, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
No.  No Constitutional Convention.  It's got to be, and known as, an Article V Convention, period.


Right. In the current climate, any constitutional convention is going to end up with "right to housing" type bullsh*t.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2013, 09:43:04 PM »
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who sees the risks inherent in a Con-con. Too many folks apparently see it in a vacuum - not recognizing that the other side will seize the moment when the doors are flung open and our attention is diverted to wreak all sorts of havoc.

This and term limits set my teeth on edge.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 10:09:06 PM »
IMO, nothing will be settled without the 2d Amendment.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 12:20:58 AM »
Quote from: Alphabet Soup on November 08, 2013, 09:43:04 PM
This and term limits set my teeth on edge.

I'm not sure why term limits set your teeth on edge.  Do you not want term limits?  47 years of Ted 'The Swimmer' Kennedy #occupying the Senate not enough?

Unless I'm reading you wrong.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2013, 09:54:04 AM »
Quote from: Glock32 on November 08, 2013, 03:58:49 PM
Quote from: Pandora on November 08, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
No.  No Constitutional Convention.  It's got to be, and known as, an Article V Convention, period.


Right. In the current climate, any constitutional convention is going to end up with "right to housing" type bullsh*t.

Can't those people be dealt with somehow?

I mean once the doors close...

Otherwise, I say "why bother at all?"...Dan is right.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2013, 10:57:54 AM »
Quote from: RickZ on November 09, 2013, 12:20:58 AM
Quote from: Alphabet Soup on November 08, 2013, 09:43:04 PM
This and term limits set my teeth on edge.

I'm not sure why term limits set your teeth on edge.  Do you not want term limits?  47 years of Ted 'The Swimmer' Kennedy #occupying the Senate not enough?

Unless I'm reading you wrong.

47 year of the swimmer is a non sequitur. The fact is that term limits would infringe on the damage one individual dhimmicrat (like the swimmer) might cause but it would do nothing to better our chances. Quite to the contrary, term limits would guarantee that pubbies would never again hold elected office.

How you ask?

Because unlike us dhimmicrats are interchangeable. They may as well be clones. Just like a PEZ dispenser once one is used up there is another one just like the last one right behind him. Meanwhile the pubbies are agonizing over whether or not their candidates are sufficiently conservative.

The Free Shyt party has just about perfected the art of electioneering. We're still on the table of contents.

We lose - almost every time.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2013, 04:51:12 PM »
Quote from: Glock32 on November 08, 2013, 03:58:49 PM
Quote from: Pandora on November 08, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
No.  No Constitutional Convention.  It's got to be, and known as, an Article V Convention, period.


Right. In the current climate, any constitutional convention is going to end up with "right to housing" type bullsh*t.

This is why a Convention of the States should precede a ConCon.
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 04:59:43 PM »
Quote from: Dan on November 08, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
IMO, nothing will be settled without the 2d Amendment.

When the blue hats are called by our POS-inChief, the 2A will come in handy.

But, even our founders exhausted every peaceful effort before the call to arms.  I encourage you to follow my link about the Convention of the States.

The 2A belongs to We the People. It is always there. But, do you really want that? Think on it.  Are you prepared for the reality of such a thing?
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Re: Article V to the rescue
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 06:01:36 PM »
No one wants to drill people but if the alternative is enslavement then there would be no doubt about it as far as I'm concerned.
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