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Obama Secretly Working on Overhaul of Government Spying
« on: November 26, 2013, 07:49:21 AM »
Anything this bastard does in secret can't be good...heck what he does in public is horrifying enough, secret stuff has to scare crap white!

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/25/209465/obamas-overhaul-of-spy-programs.html

And I cannot help but wonder how this ties into the various threads we have like this one and what it spells for the future!

These demons never rest, never let up...nor should we!

Oh, and as an aside, it appears the spooks went old school to get at provider data!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/technology/a-peephole-for-the-nsa.html?_r=0

And the more this technology gets refined all privacy anywhere will be dead!

Man, it is getting downright Orwellian everywhere you look!!!
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Re: Obama Secretly Working on Overhaul of Government Spying
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 12:11:20 PM »



"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem."

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Re: Obama Secretly Working on Overhaul of Government Spying
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 07:17:36 AM »
Damn, those are funny and distrurbing at the same time.

My laugh would be more genuine if these clowns were all gone!
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Re: Obama Secretly Working on Overhaul of Government Spying
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 10:02:49 AM »
It's safe to assume that every bit that traverses the Internet is being stored by the Fedcoats. They run filtering algorithms on it in real time, but also store copies for future data mining. With a police state on this scale, it would be impossible to say that "evidence" presented against someone wasn't entirely fabricated and seamlessly integrated into the data dump.

Maybe you could argue that the roots of this spy apparatus go back to legitimate and patriotic motives -- monitoring the Soviets -- but is just further proof that power and authority given to government will always, always end up abused and turned against the citizen. There are no exceptions to this axiom.
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Re: Obama Secretly Working on Overhaul of Government Spying
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 11:05:19 AM »
And the new NSA building is a one-stop shop for data manufacture!
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Re: Obama Secretly Working on Overhaul of Government Spying
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2013, 07:16:39 AM »
Nice quote I ran across, seems fitting when talking of secrecy and spying and spinning propaganda...

“Secrecy is the keystone to all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy and censorship. When any government or church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, “This you may not read, this you must not know,” the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man who has been hoodwinked in this fashion; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, whose mind is free.  No, not the rack nor the atomic bomb, not anything. You can’t conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.”- Robert Heinlein

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