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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #141 on: May 13, 2014, 08:02:46 AM »
Ron Paul.   ::facepalm::

I thought this idiot went away?

He's like a case of the clap, he just keeps coming back...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/ron-paul-asks-what-does-us-government-want-ukraine

Obviously, no hard questions for the idiot, like why he has such a hankering for Vlads man-juice, why he thinks it is A-OK for Russia to use gas and oil as a weapon, why annexation under any pretense is legitimate state action, why Russian commandos need to be operating in the eastern provinces of Ukraine if in fact they are so lopsidedly in favor of Russian domination, why Russia can do all this to its neighbor yet the US cannot do the same to its neighbors like Cuba and Mexico?

The idiot doctor should learn to STFD & STFU!  He is about as helpful as a case of the crabs!

 ::cussing::  fool!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #142 on: May 13, 2014, 11:48:06 AM »
Oh no!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-13/russia-retaliates-blocks-gps-bans-us-use-its-rocket-engines

No rockets!

 ::ohno::

Whatever.  ZHers seem to make a bigger deal out of this than warranted and their Vlad Worship comes out obvious at the end of the short post...

I think in the long term it could be positive, if NASA gets back to rockets instead of Muzzie outreach and other such rot!



Russian puppet in Luhansk survives shooting.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-13/peoples-governor-newly-independent-luhansk-survives-assassination-attempt

Come on Ukraine!  You can do better than this.  Use an RPG next time!   ::)



And here, gosh...I wonder who attacked this Ukrainian convoy...   ::thinking::

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-13/6-ukraine-soldiers-killed-8-injured-ahead-tomorrows-leave-or-face-war-deadline

Misguided Pro-Russian separatists or infiltrated Rooskie regulars?  Well, what difference does it make?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #143 on: May 14, 2014, 07:58:20 AM »
Huh, whattaya know, actual pics of Rooskies piled up on the Ukraine border...



http://news.yahoo.com/u-releases-satellite-images-russian-forces-near-ukraine-191329937--sector.html

Must be fakes, Vlad would never lie to us, he's ex-KGB for Stalin's sake!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #144 on: May 16, 2014, 07:35:50 AM »
Yeah...looks like a Russian-ass-kisser...



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-15/donetsk-declares-martial-law-leave-or-face-total-annihilation-deadline-hits-within-h

...talks real tough with Putin standing behind him, hands on his shoulders...

 ::vafancoul::

Heh, I wonder if something unusual sent this Rooskie launch awry?!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-15/rocket-carrying-russias-most-advanced-communications-satellite-crashes-take

 ::smallestviolin::

And clearly, this news can only mean Russia intends to maintain a hostile posture toward Ukraine, so really, what incentive does Ukraine, the EU, the US or anybody (especially other regional neighbors!) have to play nice with Russia any more?

 ::whatgives::

Pretty clever...

Prince Vlad as Darth Vader...

Darth Vader takes control and saves Odessa, Ukraine

...and numbnuts think Vlad is the wrong evil empire builder?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-16/darth-vader-steps-his-political-campaign-ukraine

...what makes Vlad any less evil?   ::whatgives::

Stupid PaulBots!   ::mooning::
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #145 on: May 19, 2014, 07:17:20 AM »
More good news for Russia...

http://news.yahoo.com/hard-nato-defend-baltic-states-russia-spiegel-181301547--sector.html

...NATO's spine to soften in defending the Baltic states?  No, say it isn't so!  I mean the hard line in the sand you set in Ukraine..ahh...errr...ummm...

O'Bongoism, heck of a policy, ain't it?

Like the Preacher in Blazing Saddles said, "...you're on your own."!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #146 on: May 19, 2014, 11:20:17 AM »
And now we see the consequences of western Europe putting so much money into their cradle-to-grave welfare states for 70 years following WWII, since Uncle Sugar was doing their defense spending for them. Now that Uncle Sugar either can't or won't do it for them anymore, the world sees just how impotent they are by themselves.

And it furthermore appears that we're all about to learn a lesson on how the welfare state has in essence produced generations of junkies who are dependent on OPM, and the ability for them to keep getting their fix is coming to an end.

The Russians have correctly calculated that the US and western Europe are strategically impotent, and sitting on a social time bomb that will go off when OPM dries up.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #147 on: May 19, 2014, 11:43:09 AM »
Yup, they willingly accepted what the Soviets had to impose...the results will be the same...

But the difference is that when the Soviet Empire collapsed a ravenous neighbor did not pounce to feast upon the fresh carcass, I expect the Euro's will not be as fortunate...

Heck, neither will we be so fortunate, going down the road to perdition we're on!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #148 on: May 20, 2014, 07:52:11 AM »
The new Axis of Evil...



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-20/communist-caption-contest

And all we got is...



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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #149 on: May 23, 2014, 01:07:24 PM »
Jeez!  Tyler's at ZeroHedge really are a bunch of Russophiles, aren't they?!

"However, one thing Putin made explicitly clear earlier today is that he sees NATO expansion as the single biggest threat to Russia, especially considering the implicit understanding between James Baker and Gorbachev from 1990 that Nato would not expand east. Well, NATO may not only be expanding east but it may soon be knocking on Russia's doorstep.  And that would certainly provoke the Russian bear like nothing yet seen."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-23/russia-has-prepared-confidential-retaliation-document-ukraine-prepares-hold-nato-acc

What a disingenous unapologetic Putin-ass-kissing intellectually dishonest little dweeb Tyler is!

He links to a NYT's article from 2009, an outfit that adores and carries dirty water for Putin's nemesis on a daily basis, in a weak effort to bolster the pathetic argument that Vlad is entirely in the right and that provoking him (like provoking say Obama with the truth) is justification enough to sanction any retalitory response up to and including mass murder...while ignoring the express conditions of the December 5th 1994 Budapest Memorandum (aka Memorandum on Security Assurances in connection with Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons) that Russia is ignoring - specifically: threatnening the independence and soverignty of Ukraine, violating the territory of Ukraine, the use of force/threat of force on Ukraine and the economic coercion of Ukraine (Gazprom, hello?!) as well as conveniently ignoring the fact that the US and the UK pledged to come to the aid of Ukraine if threatened by ANY of the above!

So take your commie agreement and shove it up your ass, Tyler!  That is as soon as you can get off your knees and wipe the Putin off your chin!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #151 on: June 06, 2014, 01:01:02 PM »
Clear majority view US negatively...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/06/putin-foreigners-russia/10003575/

...well, how hard is that?

-Russians historically adore their strong men...until they set off on genocide, then they just replace them with another one...

-Obama is a tool...

-Think it sucks from afar?  Try being this close to stupid!  See above "Obama is a tool" and add in a host of other DemoProgs running amok everywhere...

SHOCKA!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #152 on: June 10, 2014, 08:04:36 AM »
This is a good read about what is going on in Ukraine and the risks for Russia.  They really are in a pickle if their subversive war fizzles.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/russia/articles/20140607.aspx
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #153 on: June 12, 2014, 11:50:31 AM »
Going to get interesting now...

Russians invade Ukraine with 3 tanks and APC's...unknown number of troops...Snezhnoye area of the Donetsk region...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-12/firefight-underway-russian-rebels-cross-border-ukraine

Repel and destroy, capture some alive...trot them out in front of cameras and let the world see what Russia is up to...and then suffer dejection when the world shrugs...better off slaughtering them all on sight and screw the PR crap!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #154 on: June 17, 2014, 07:11:03 AM »
Obama is only growing weaker by the second...I could see Vlad the Nation-Inhaler going all-in soon...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-16/ukraine-says-russia-has-38-000-troops-on-border-amid-invasion-.html

ETA - Gas explosion/fire in Ukraine Poltava region...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-17/ukraine-russia-near-serious-conflict-following-gas-transit-pipeline-explosion

...Putin false flag to send in the 38k troops? 

Lock 'n Load, Ukraine!  The Mongrels are coming!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #155 on: June 18, 2014, 05:22:19 PM »
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #157 on: June 30, 2014, 07:43:19 AM »
Putin & Gazprom Plan B - Bypass Ukraine...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-30/russia-reveals-plan-b-gazprom-says-gas-transit-ukraine-may-be-stopped-completely

...getting past the ZH euphoria of a Russia win...this is no slam-dunk for Putin & Gazprom...if I were Ukraine I would be dispatching Commando's to both the nearby border with Russia part of the Blue Stream section as well as the vulnerable points in the South Stream section in Bulgaria...then that leverage returns to Ukraine again...

Oh, and as for Austria, nice union you got there EU, once again Austria causes problems in Europe...SSDD...   ::mooning::
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #158 on: July 01, 2014, 08:42:53 AM »
As I said before...time and fecklessness by the West only works to Russia's advantage...

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/russia/articles/20140625.aspx

...just like 1938 all over again...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #159 on: July 07, 2014, 07:57:30 AM »
Wow, ZH not even trying to hide its Russia-bias any more...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-06/what-next-ukraine-ethnic-cleansing

...one of those "the majority is fine when they are with me and sucks and must be overruled when they are against me" attitudes the Left typically loves to employ...

...if the majority of people in Ukraine are umm...Ukrainian...it makes sense to drive the Russians out, eh?

I guess if ZHer's were invaded by some folks they don't like and told to shut up and enjoy having your terrirtory violated, stolen and your people shot...

...yeah, that makes about as much sense as anything oozing out of this White House...

...and not a big fan of Ziggy, but his idea at least has the benefit of doing something to level the playing field in a military sense...I would go so far as to provide better air defense as well, but...anything that makes further pillaging by Ivan harder would be nice...
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