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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #180 on: July 31, 2014, 07:50:46 AM »
Don't like this plan, it is tilted heavily Russia's direction, basically a sellout for energy...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/land-for-gas-secret-german-deal-could-end-ukraine-crisis-9638764.html

...the downed airliner put things on hold, I hope that time can be used to take things like recognizing territorial theft and such can be removed, else I see little chance of this conflict ending...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #181 on: August 05, 2014, 07:26:35 AM »
Build up has to be taken seriously...with Vlad's track record a full blown incursion into Ukraine is not out of the question...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/world/europe/buildup-makes-russia-battle-ready-for-ukraine.html?_r=0

Armor, artillery & SAM bateries are key, watching activity at their air bases is going to be a red flare...


ETA - Evil Empire repsonds to the West's sanctions...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/russia-plans-airspace-blockade-european-flyovers-sanctions-retaliation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/putin-orders-preparation-retaliatory-sanctions

Wow, denied the pleasure of flying over Mongrel-land and they come all the way out of the closet in dealing with completely insane Islamic terror states?  Wow, something different for Russia.  Wait, no it isn't!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #183 on: August 11, 2014, 01:48:10 PM »
The Russians are Coming (Again)!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-11/putin-defies-western-warning-will-send-aid-convoy-east-ukraine

"Aid" convoy...

Yeah, sure...everybody should call invaders that!   ::)

Interesting the hoodwinked the Red Cross to come along, nothing a like innocent fodder to march behind to protect your own and make PR waves if any get killed!  A little trick they learned from helping out every scumbag raghead regime that has ever existed!  Russians are no better than pale-skinned Pali's!

Do the IDF thing, Ukraine, drop leaflets telling the Red Cross fools to haul ass, because bullets and bombs are coming any minute for Vlad and his Stormtroopers!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #185 on: August 15, 2014, 07:48:17 AM »
Russian incursion has reportedly begun...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-14/putin-punks-west-again-guardian-reports-russian-troops-enter-ukraine

Flow of arms and munitions...NATO issues statement akin to an angry letter but does nothing...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-15/nato-accuses-russia-escalating-conflict-even-it-calls-de-escalation.

...it appears that "aid" convoy was a decoy to cover the real incursion.

War, uhh, ...we'll see what it's good for...

Ukraine says it has stopped some of the incursion...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-15/ukraine-says-it-destroyed-part-of-armed-vehicles-from-russia.html

The response by the West is pathetic...and if the US was serious (I know it is a stretch given Bungling Barry's record) they would have already acted by ordering the Command Ship Mount Whitney from Theoule-sur-Mer to the Black Sea with whatever other US and allied ships are in the area and spin up the Amphib Iwo Jima and Carrier Roosevelt at Norfolk and send them to the Sixth Fleet...

But as far as I can tell Barry is only spinning Reggie up...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #186 on: August 22, 2014, 04:55:58 PM »
Russian invasion is showing just how weak the West is, how useless NATO is and how screwed Ukraine is.  Other nations in the region are screwed too, they will be forced to make the best of a rotten deal with Russia or suffer the same result.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #188 on: September 02, 2014, 07:11:19 AM »
Wow, ZeroHedge had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find these clowns...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-01/ex-nsa-director-us-intelligence-veterans-write-open-letter-merkel-avoid-all-out-ukra

If you look up info on these people most seem to be left-leaning Libertarians and disgruntled Dems, that most are critics of Bush is not in itself all bad (Lord knows the NSA wasn't exactly idle under Bush and we got the Patriot Act and NDAA acts to prove it) but the criticism of waterboarding, aligning with Code Pink and DemocracyNow and ilk like that, OK, come on, now...and guys who think a cabal of conservatives is running a shadow government...clowns who think Israel is the problem not batshyt nuts islaminals...people who actively took part in Gaza flotillas...oh and our Minnestupid girl Rowley who excelled at pissing off veterans and ran an add that compared (a relatively moderate Conservative Republican) John Kline to Col.Klink!

Yeah, try again ZH clowns, find some more loony-toons to trumpet your virulent Russophile point of view!!!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #189 on: September 02, 2014, 11:54:08 AM »
Kremlin foreign-policy aide Yuri Ushakov said Russia hadn’t sent troops to Ukraine and sought to calm nerves over comments attributed to Putin in a report yesterday in La Repubblica. Putin told European Commission President Jose Barroso that: “If I want, I could take Kiev in two weeks,” according to the Italian newspaper, which didn’t identify a source for the information.

The remarks were taken out of context, Ushakov told reporters today in Moscow, saying that the disclosure of details from the conversation is undiplomatic and “unworthy of a serious political player.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-02/russia-says-u-s-europe-incite-party-of-war-in-ukraine.html

 ::hysterical::

"...serious political player"!  Yeah, out of context...  How so?  Oh, you don't get into that part of it, too busy evacuating vodka by-product on others...

Stupid mongrel...

Invade, I dare ya, would be the best thing for the Baltics to learn, they ought to go the Iran route and build an illegal nuke program if they wat to stay independent!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #190 on: September 05, 2014, 11:40:50 AM »
Warms my heart to see this!   ::grouphug::

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/grandfathers-school-teachers-steel-workers-women-take-up-arms-to-repel-pro-russian-rebels/

If only we would react the same way to statists in our midst...   :'(
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #191 on: September 08, 2014, 06:44:38 AM »
I guess the hardcore Russophiles at ZeroHedge are arguing that might makes right...so trying to punish your supplier is just stupid I guess, no matter what they might do...your the bitch, get used to it...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-07/europe-goes-all-will-sanction-rosneft-gazprom-neft-and-transneft
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #192 on: September 09, 2014, 08:47:32 AM »
Rabid Russophiles at ZeroHedge are dead certain a Ukrainian Su-25 shot down MH17, because, well, Russian data says so!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/mh17-was-struck-multiple-high-energy-objects-outside-aircraft-crash-report-reveals

I note how they make this bold statement - "No evidence or indications of manipulation of the recorders were found."

And then go on to display this piece of the ATC transscript -



Which offers no indication by any party on the ground or from MH17 that there were any Ukrainian military jets in the area...just the ironclad info via Mother Russia which could never ever in a million years be doctored.

And I guess in those empty 4 seconds between last contact and no contact the Russophiles are disappointed the stupid Malaysians didn't blurt out "Ukraine Su-25 at 1 O'clock!" before the Russian Buk missile slammed into their fuselage!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #193 on: September 10, 2014, 07:36:15 AM »
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #194 on: September 17, 2014, 07:39:51 AM »
This piece at ZH is actually kind of funny to read...you can just hear and feel the wailing and angst that both Russophiles and Rooskies experienced when they learned NATO actually practiced a little Rooskie-like deception and snuck arms and munititions to their pals in Ukraine right under Rooskie noses and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-16/washingtons-bait-and-switch-nato-armed-kiev-under-cover-ceasefire

Yeah, I feel your pain...yet I find it hilarious and ironic!   ::evilbat::

Sucks when totalitarians get Melvin'd, eh?   ;D
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #195 on: September 18, 2014, 07:58:42 AM »
Yeah, uhh huh..."in repsonse" my arse!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-17/russia-deploy-full-scale-military-unit-crimea

I guess the Rooskies and their cheerleaders think most people are stupid enough to think that after illegally seizing the Crimea that the Russian's wouldn't militarize the acquisition...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #196 on: September 18, 2014, 11:34:35 AM »
Russians beating the crap out of journalists...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/bbc-crew-badly-beaten-in-southern-russia/

...OK, now that is a fad that could catch on fire here too...but in this case, well...

...maybe we'll hear stories on ZeroHedge how these clowns had it coming?!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #197 on: September 26, 2014, 11:36:26 AM »
Looks like the Euro's blinked on the gas front to me...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-26/russia-ukraine-reach-preliminary-agreement-on-interim-gas-price.html

Now, back to the illegal seizure of land!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #198 on: October 16, 2014, 07:35:40 AM »
Could Vlad be losing it?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/putin-warns-nuclear-power-consequences-if-attempts-blackmail-russia-dont-stop

See?  He cannot help but revert to his Soviet roots, to him the Soviet Regime holds an allure he cannot let go of, the sweet taste of power and being a key cog in the KGB had to be like heaven for such a man!

Surely, this has to come as a shock to the hardcore Russophiles at ZeroHedge, that their hero, their idol, their paragon of virtue...the ultimate Strong Man in a world gone mad...is cracking under what I thought were pointless, futile and meaningless sanctions by the US & EU...but if Vlad is going back to his Soviet persona so quickly...perhaps the pain in the PetroRuble is starting to get the other Oligarch's restless and they are prodding him to do something?!

This is going to have to be watched very closely!  Obama is just stupid enough to tease too much and have his arm ripped off...

 ::saywhat::

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #199 on: October 17, 2014, 07:17:49 AM »
Russia trying to re-extend its military presence...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/16/russia-bolsters-military-presence-former-soviet-states

...but it will never fully recover its former Soviet size...

...and lets see how far back this renovation project gets pushed with the PetroRuble being beaten to a pulp.

And since it is their policy to cozy up to the Islaminal partner they see as being the sole surviving Musloid power once all the slaughtering is done (once the House of Saud falls, they'll all be killing each other to claim the spoils!)...no wonder they have been providing them with nuclear technology and material, weapons and the like.

But pardon me if I don't get jazzed up over a naval exercise in a land-locked pond...and use of the word fleet to describe two ships?  I've seen bigger fleets on local lakes!

Anyway...after all these years I still cannot figure out how Russia plans to survive with a Persian Caliphate dominating Central Asia and the Middle East?  I guess they figure to be sweethearts-4-ever!

Stupid mongrels!

More evidence not all is sunshine and roses in Russia...

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/russia/articles/20141013.aspx

...maybe more pics of a shirtless Vlad strutting around will fix things?   ::hysterical::

Anyway, and I find this little telling bit of news to be interesting...

"There have been some interesting encounters between these volunteers and highly trained Russian troops.. During one of the incidents highly trained Omega (spetsnaz) commandos who were hiding, along with some local rebels, behind their BTR armored vehicles as they had been trained to do. But then the Ukrainian volunteers simply rushed furiously at the enemy and succeeded in capturing the rebels. The rebels, including some regular Russian soldiers, were confused about what these Ukrainians were doing and before they could open fire they were surrounded and captured, with a few of them wounded. This was one of the first battles involving the 1st Reserve Battalion."

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htworld/articles/20141016.aspx

Heh, Russia committing their best and most experienced, and their Spetsnaz, and get handled like this?  Wow.  And they are having a hard time telling widows and orphans where/why their father is dead?  Yeah, that's a shame.  Just think, if we can get better anti-armor weapons to these guys, they'd have another Afghanistan on their hands, and maybe then they wouldn't be so upitty and power/territory mad!



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