Author Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine (Read 88211 times)

Libertas · « **Reply #2060 on:** March 22, 2024, 08:10:48 AM »

Why not 14? 10?

I suggest putting Michel on the front line with Senator Lindsey Graham.

Rut Roh!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-council-president-calls-europe-switch-war-economy

Libertas · « **Reply #2061 on:** March 22, 2024, 11:48:42 AM »

Well, great news for our adversaries...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/2025-department-defense-budget-request-disarms-america/

...it's almost like the corrupt compromised FJB wants America to fall...despite their BS about the existential threat in Ukraine and Putin's Russia...

This would benefit China too, a known Biden business partner...and a host of others as well...including millions of military aged males the POS let in...

Libertas · « **Reply #2062 on:** March 22, 2024, 03:43:55 PM »

Peskov says this is now a "war".

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kremlins-unprecedented-description-ukraine-conflict-war-what-it-means

Can't say it isn't.

And OMG, what the Hell is this?

Update(1440ET): Russian state media as well as The Wall Street Journal's regional correspondent is reporting at least 40 people killed, and over 100 wounded and injured, in the unfolding major terror attack on Moscow's largest concert hall.

Initial videos have emerged showing what appears to be attackers in combat fatigues with assault rifles going around the mall part of the venue (which is attached to the concert hall) and shooing randomly. There are reports from RT of follow-up blasts happening even amid a huge security, police, and emergency response.

A mere days ago the US Embassy in Moscow released the following alert telling all US nationals still in the country to avoid large gatherings and public venues. What did they know?

(Comment - Russian news is saying there have been "warnings" the past few weeks.)

Russia has called the shooting a 'bloody terrorist attack' in an initial statement. The White House has also issued an initial assessment as follows:

WHITE HOUSE: NO INDICATION AT THIS TIME THAT UKRAINE INVOLVED IN MOSCOW SHOOTING
MOSCOW CANCELS ALL THE WEEKEND MASS GATHERINGS - MAYOR
Unconfirmed reports say some of the attackers may still be at large.

Some kind of major attack just occurred at a Moscow concert hall with contradictory breaking reports emerging from on the ground and several circulating unconfirmed videos. There are possibly at least ten casualties and videos from the scene showing a large fire and plumes of black smoke over the venue. It may have been the result of a large explosion, or possibly even a cross-border drone strike, but conflicting reports say this is likely a mass shooting situation. According to the breaking Associated Press report, at least three gunmen in combat gear stormed the concert hall, with riot police responding:

Several gunmen in combat fatigues burst into a big concert hall in Moscow on Friday and fired automatic weapons at the crowd, injuring an unspecified number of people, Russian media said.

Russian news reports said that the assailants also used explosives, causing a massive blaze at the Crocus City Hall on the western edge of Moscow. Video posted on social media showed huge plumes of black smoke rising over the building.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mass-shooting-attack-explosions-moscows-largest-concert-hall-reports

The RT feed is blaming Ukraine and Nazis in a continuation of that rhetoric, but this is no different than what Hamas did to Israel...except as far as we know here there are not women being raped and babies slaughtered and hostages taken.

It also appears from the "some of the attackers may still be at large" comment that some may be in custody...not sure if that means alive or not...but regardless they identify these terrorists as connected to Ukraine and the war some serious sh*t is going to hit the fan!

Libertas · « **Reply #2063 on:** March 22, 2024, 04:00:27 PM »

Update(1635ET): Moscow has come out with fighting words while also pointing the finger at Washington about 'what it knew' ahead of time and when:

Medvedev threatens Ukraine's top officials will be 'destroyed mercilessly as terrorists' if the 'Kyiv regime' is linked to Moscow concert hall attack.

The former president Deputy Chairman of the Security Council is known to routinely issue threatening and hawkish words, but the Russian foreign ministry has issued the following as cited in Reuters:

"On what basis do officials in Washington draw any conclusions in the midst of a tragedy about someone’s innocence?” She added that if Washington had information, it should be shared and that if Washington had no information, it should not be talking in such a way.

At least one of the attackers is said to be in Russian custody, also as security services inspect a van in the vicinity and other suspicious vehicles.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1771258370193813801

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mass-shooting-attack-explosions-moscows-largest-concert-hall-reports

patentlymn · « **Reply #2064 on:** March 22, 2024, 04:07:04 PM »

Remember that the US funded the Chechen terrorists inside Russia year back. Beslan school opening day and Moscow explosions.

A video link of the recent shootings.
https://t.me/myLordBebo/26039

patentlymn · « **Reply #2065 on:** March 22, 2024, 04:27:08 PM »

Hamas and Hezbollah and random jihadis see this shooting and think of the Mall of America.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2066 on:** March 22, 2024, 04:39:16 PM »

In the past when Kiev realizes they are losing they thrash out. Recently attacking the ZapNPP. Also attack belograd.
I heard they hope to provoke a retaliation which will drag NATO in directly.

So far Moscow has not retaliated in kind. It is not Russian policy to attack purely civilian targets. If you listen to Kiev factions on social media it is official Kiev policy.

Lots more like this.
https://t.me/myLordBebo/25990
🇺🇦🇷🇺🚨?? Women walking her dog hit by random shelling of Belgorod.
Rest in peace
Ukraine cries that they are running out of weapons, but still find resources to shoot at civilians

Also I saw Kiev reported Russian strike on a Ukr apt building. Then someone noticed they had blurred out the lettering on the rocket. I saw similar long ago. Kiev TV showed some brave guy deactivating a 'Russian' mine that washed up on Odessa beach. The lettering was blurred out.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2067 on:** March 22, 2024, 04:51:28 PM »

https://t.me/myLordBebo/26069
Footage of the beginning of the attack on Crocus. The gunmen got out of the white Renault and opened fire.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2068 on:** March 22, 2024, 07:29:03 PM »

This is what Ritter said. The Banderites were put into Gulags then let out and US funded them.
https://t.me/putingers_cat_chat/235337
Around 7-8 yrs - After Stalin's death the idiot Chrushchev released the scumbags and Uncle Sam planted their brown seed again.

The video has some history.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2069 on:** March 22, 2024, 08:36:44 PM »

Larry Johnson noted that the US embassy issued a warning of a crowd attack two weeks ago. Then some CIA outlet OSINT said the US was concerned about 'unauthorized brazen actions' by Kiev.

Now the US govt says it knows Ukr was not involved 1 hour after the attack. They have no idea so why say that.

https://youtu.be/a4jjguZ-_5s
Terrorist Attack on Moscow - Ukraine Committing Suicide? | Larry C. Johnson

Also US GAO says that only half of US latest gen fighters are flyable. Larry's friend says only 1/3 at his base are there. The rest are at LM getting SW bugs fixed.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2070 on:** March 23, 2024, 01:48:18 PM »

Alex summarizes the attack on Moscow. Also what I read elsewhere.
Weapons were in a cache. They were paid money online. Maybe Tajiks?
Fled on the so called Ukraine highway but stopped closer to Belarus likely on their way to Ukraine.
They said they had contacts inside Ukraine. Does not mean the Ukraine govt was involved.

https://youtu.be/WY65JFB-oRA
Moscow, Crocus City Hall; 11 arrested, 4 terrorists captured. Medvedev, terrorists must be destroyed

patentlymn · « **Reply #2071 on:** March 23, 2024, 02:07:08 PM »

I saw some video of one of the terrorists being tortured on the ground. I think they cut off an ear and told him to eat it.
If he did not they said they would cut off his dick. That is according to translations
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1blsznn/ru_pov_one_of_the_terrorists_of_the_crocus/

Quote

The military(and not only) has a "principle" about interrogation. It needs to happen fast and bring shock, to the already shocking situation of being captured. You need to feel threatened, as much, if not more, while you were running. If they arrest you and tell you to chill - you know nothing happens. That presents the highest chance of releasing "secret" information that you might otherwise be able to hide once you emotionally recover.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2072 on:** March 23, 2024, 02:35:48 PM »

https://t.me/putingers_cat/9486
This is important to understand:

The secret services found the terrorists either while they were still in Moscow or in the Moscow region, and tracked the car to figure out where they were going and whether they would meet with anyone.

At the same time, their phones were being listened to, which led to seven more detainees in this case.

Then, in the wee hours of morning, when the terrorists were already tired and the information had largely been gathered, the arrest took place so as not to “spoil their skin and take them alive for interrogation.”
...
The Investigative Committee cannot identify the special forces soldier who cut off the ear of the captured terrorist, because they were all wearing balaclavas and everyone says that it was him...

patentlymn · « **Reply #2073 on:** March 23, 2024, 03:05:14 PM »

I wish I could find a modern Ukraine textbook with English translation. IMO they have been pumping poison into people for a few decades now, judging from what the Ukr people say on video. Some Russian UN guy read from a modern Ukr text book Most Europeans are descended from the ancient Ukr race, also Jews.

Some Russian young man, a civilian I believe, was eaten by a shark in the Red Sea in front of his father as he screamed to him for help. They play the video in Kiev bars and cheer. Something off there.

https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/9901
Despite the desperate attempts of John Kirby, to convince the world, the US CIA state department has had nothing to do with the attacks terrorist attacks on Russia. It essentially has everything to do with the United States, because only the United States has brainwashed the Ukrainians with such anti-Russian hatred and blood lust ….only the United States, has changed, the education materials in Ukraine over the past 20-30 years, and filled them with myths and fables and perversions of history to the point where the Ukrainians have become schizophrenic zealots .

so even if there’s no direct ties to the United States, coordinating this attack, there are still direct ties to the United States Planting in the minds of these terrorists the hatred for Russia, which caused these attacks,

patentlymn · « **Reply #2074 on:** March 23, 2024, 03:12:45 PM »

Maybe they will subtitle this.
https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/9911
🗣 Footage of the interrogation of one of the suspects who participated in the terrorist attack

-For 500k rubles (around $5k) they agreed to kill innocent civilians.

https://t.me/heilukraine1959/8537
https://t.me/heilukraine1959/8541

https://t.me/myLordBebo/26167
Footage from the hotel room where the attackers lived

The owner of the hotel where the terrorists who carried out the attack in Crocus lived described her guests to law enforcement officers.

“Guests from Tajikistan checked in at the beginning of March, behaved well, did not create rows, and always greeted us and smiled.

All communication with the hotel administration went through one person, a 19-year-old hairdresser from Ivanovo, Muhammadsobir Fayzov - he spoke Russian better than anyone else.

When checking in, the terrorists presented Tajik passports.”

patentlymn · « **Reply #2075 on:** March 23, 2024, 03:46:47 PM »

This is creepy.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9478
First minutes of the Crocus City Hall attack in Moscow.

Confused showgoers don't understand what is happening as they start hearing gunshots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1blpewt/ru_pov_fully_translated_video_of_the_purported/

patentlymn · « **Reply #2076 on:** March 23, 2024, 04:00:49 PM »

Eng sub
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/35963
??🇷🇺BLOODIED WITH BANDAGE WRAPPED AROUND HEAD, LAST OF TERRORISTS (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/35537) INTERROGATED in vid above as 30-year-old criminal scum, unable to speak in Russian properly, reveals how he and his sick "friends" got rid of their weapons before they were detained (01:20).

With over 140 KILLED (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/35537) in yesterday’s cold-blooded Crocus massacre (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/35493), authorities say number of dead may rise as they keep finding body parts of people who died in blaze (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/35490) following terror attack.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2077 on:** March 23, 2024, 04:05:10 PM »

Some unarmed Russian guy grabbed a terrorist and pounded him senseless.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/35966
🇷🇺🫡 BRAVE RUSSIAN MAN WHO KNOCKED DOWN TERRORIST AND SAVED 100s SHARES HIS STORY: hear in vid above heroic tale of Russian man who couldn't stand "wild horror" in his wife's eyes (00:26) as terrorists butchered defenseless civilians at Crocus concert hall (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/35493) and "realized he had to do something."

Just before that he cold-bloodedly shot people. I looked at my wife and saw in her eyes wild horror and I realized that I had to do something. I pushed my wife and ran around him (terrorist) on the left, grabbed the gun with my left hand and pulled it down and with right hand began to hit him in the head - man describing how his fight went down.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/717
A seller of Russian books is detained in Kiev and forced a confession where he promised not to do it again.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2078 on:** March 23, 2024, 05:27:52 PM »

Kinda brutal
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9490
Apprehension of one of the non-humans in the previous video.

He squeals like a pig that he is.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2079 on:** March 23, 2024, 07:03:50 PM »

This a print version of what Larry Johnson said earlier
https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/9926
The terrorist attack in Moscow was the work of Ukraine and the "terrified" US knew it, a former CIA officer has said.

Just a day ago, open source intelligence source OSINTdefender reported that Washington was "increasingly frustrated by Ukraine's unauthorised, blatant actions" against Russia. "This means that the US knew Ukraine was up to something, had an idea of what it was going to do. And there's a good chance that Ukraine not only did it, but did it with weapons and support provided by the United States," former CIA analyst Larry Johnson told Judging Freedom.

This version is also supported by the State Department's hasty words that Kiev had nothing to do with the attack, a statement made before Moscow itself had any accurate information about what had happened. "They know Ukraine did it," the former intelligence official said confidently. That's why the US was so quick to declare no involvement in the attack, and why it expressed concern about Ukraine's "egregious" actions the day before. "That's why the White House was so scared to death," Johnson explains.