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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2014, 08:38:00 PM »
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2014, 12:44:00 PM »
I had been reading of the recent events in the Ukraine and Crimea and after a bit realized that I ha subconsciously added a soundtrack. Then yesterday someone on the freepers posted this:

Al Stewart - Roads To Moscow

That (or parts of it at least) was what I had been hearing in my head.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2014, 07:18:11 AM »
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2014, 07:43:42 AM »
Digging in and looking like they are not going anywhere.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-09/ukrainian-drone-captures-video-russian-troops-fortifying-crimea

This has always been about gas and full control of the Black Sea.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-09/does-russia-need-sell-gas-more-eu-needs-buy-it

I think it is time for Gazprom to experience some fatal supply disruptions on the Russian side of the border! 
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2014, 07:47:50 AM »
The assimilation of Crimea into the Russian Federation (spit!) continues unabated.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-11/diplomacy-fails-ukraine-putin-rebuffs-kerry-proposal-kiev-issues-ultimatum-crimea-su

Big surprise Putin giving Obama & Kerry the finger...I bet they didn't see it coming!

ETA - The deed is almost done, the American response is pathetic and weak...we have become Europe, and like them any agreement we sign isn't going to be worth a damn!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-11/red-line-crossing-ukraine-effectively-gifts-crimea-russia-says-will-not-intervene-mi

Congratulations Barrack Hussein Obama and the Democrat Party, you have successfully reduced America to your ideal of being "no different" than any other shythole nation on the planet!  American Exceptionalism is dead, long live American Beta's!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2014, 06:40:17 PM »
   Where is our dear leader??   WHY GOLFING OF COURSE!!!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2014, 07:03:21 AM »
   Where is our dear leader??   WHY GOLFING OF COURSE!!!

He is playing the Shepherd game with Reggie...of course 'Bammy is the sheep.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2014, 07:06:47 AM »
Guess who is going to Ukraine?

If you guessed J-Mac you win...no actually, we all lose, especially Ukraine...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-12/john-mccain-going-ukraine

They should ask him not to come, having that Doofus Kerry in the region was bad enough, another washed up brainless idiot they don't need...

Except...   ::thinking::

Maybe if one of these washed up brainless idiots got snuffed by a Russian...

 ::thinking::
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #69 on: March 13, 2014, 08:45:52 AM »
   Where is our dear leader??   WHY GOLFING OF COURSE!!!

well after convincing the Ukraine to give up its weapons maybe he figures no one will listen to him there.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #70 on: March 13, 2014, 08:52:41 AM »

There's a lot of truth in the stuff you get from Infowars, ZH, and the like, but it's like come on you tards -- not everything has to dovetail neatly into the Global Bankster Hegemony concept.

Yep, that is the biggest problem with info wars-- every square peg has to fit the round hold of Global NWO conspiracy theory. The facts are often right, but the result of their bias is that the analysis is often wrong.  Rather bolsters the idea that Alex Jones and Infowars are a govt  psy-op who try to push people noticing the facts  in the wrong direction and make  them look like loons.  Given the late pro- Russian  slant however, maybe both Zerohedge and Infowars are Russian funded Psy-ops of the more traditional cold-war sort - trying to undermine and cause problems for the dominant culture and ruler-ship.. is just that the culture they have to strike at now is the American  counter-culture they helped create in the 60s..

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #71 on: March 13, 2014, 11:22:58 AM »

There's a lot of truth in the stuff you get from Infowars, ZH, and the like, but it's like come on you tards -- not everything has to dovetail neatly into the Global Bankster Hegemony concept.

Yep, that is the biggest problem with info wars-- every square peg has to fit the round hold of Global NWO conspiracy theory. The facts are often right, but the result of their bias is that the analysis is often wrong.  Rather bolsters the idea that Alex Jones and Infowars are a govt  psy-op who try to push people noticing the facts  in the wrong direction and make  them look like loons.  Given the late pro- Russian  slant however, maybe both Zerohedge and Infowars are Russian funded Psy-ops of the more traditional cold-war sort - trying to undermine and cause problems for the dominant culture and ruler-ship.. is just that the culture they have to strike at now is the American  counter-culture they helped create in the 60s..

Seem to apply to ZH more, but yeah.  Stick with their stengths/truths, discard the noise.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2014, 06:42:59 AM »
Speaking of which...here we go...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/ron-paul-putins-crimea-invasion-has-law-its-side

This is where St. Ron and the ZH crowd go completely off the reservation into the ditch and up the other side and back over again and act like their shyt don't reek like shyt.

Yeah, Putin is "no angel" but he is the angel of a legion of brain-dead cult-of-Ron clowns we call PaulBots and it is things like this make me wonder if Paul isn't a former KGB deep legend planted to cause havoc in America...and after the Soviet Union collapsed he stayed on to do the same for Mother Russia.  Making arguments one way thenn another is a tactic Paul and his minions excel at, and they like libiots go nuclear with the personal attacks if you call them out on it and show the obvious hypocrisy of their Dear Leader.  Note that this pious price doesn't even discuss the fact that the Russians have been using energy as an economic weapon in direct violation of the Budapest Memorandum, so what came first Paulie, the Russian extortion or Putin's so-called coup against his puppet?

What a snivelling little prick!

And this loser, tired of his misinformation!  Independent neutral state!  Pah!  Not as long as Russia lives!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/russian-explains-real-stakes-fight-crimea-and-ukraine

Useless tool!

Another moron, failiing to see such actions would in fact result in Cold War 2.0.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/5-ways-russias-ukraine-boomerang-could-strike

ZeroHedge is going all-in on the Go-Russia/Fukc US & EU bandwagon.

Look, they even want to help spread the propaganda of where all those scary Rooskie troops and war machines are at, poised to pounce should the foolish West fail to accept Russian hegemony across the central European region! 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/where-russian-troops-are-full-pre-takeover-infographic

Bow before Prince Vladi!  Not a bad gambit though, there is that bowing clownboxer schlepping around a big white mansion...

 ::facepalm::

Yup, safe to say though, while they may get many things right on economic issues (like pointing out those flaws takes any talent or will ever be lacking material)...but in everything else they are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the FSB.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2014, 09:05:21 AM »
There is a Disqus poster who regularly haunts Breitbart and Politico that goes by the name Tyler Durden. He uniformly takes the leftist line in any discussion. I've scrapped with him several times and he reliably folds like a cheap suit. Mostly his schtick is leftist hair-splitting.

I wonder if he's the same klown?

I've also noticed a tread to compare putin favorably to Øbozo. The left has noticed it too and lefties are now frequently imputing that sense (being right-wing=putin worship) to all of us.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2014, 01:43:50 PM »
Can't be the same dude, the Tyler at ZH wouldn't fold, he might not engage a troll and may be bailed out by a loyal follower, and like most PaulBot Libertarian's he see's little difference between Rep/Dem, Red/Blue, they are all the same team...so spouting off nothing but libiot jibberish doesn't sound like him.  The only thing that he and his followers have that cross polinates with libiots is the Code Pink "all war is bad" mindset and the belief that the OWS crowd rocks because they are against the Zionists running Wall Street.  The old anarchist strain of Libertarianism finding comon ground with the proletariat.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2014, 02:01:46 PM »
Tyler Durden is a character in Fight Club who is a mental projection of the narrator ( an everyman) - Tyler brings about the destruction of the American Banking system , and so he is sort of the John Galt or anti-corporation/anti-banking types, so don't get surprised if you see that name used by a lot of people.  Zerohedge has Tyler Durdens - plural .  Many of the admins there post under that same Pseudonym.

Fight club is an interesting movie - and I liked it. Not enough to ever see it again, and at the time the anti-corporate message was grating.  Now, knowing that the banks really are that corrupt and really are fully in bed with the powers that be in a fascist arrangement, I suspect I would like it more if I watched it again. That isn't to say that corporations are inherently bad  or that banks are..  just that power corrupts and that Big Government had open up vast new avenues of corruption


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2014, 02:10:25 PM »
Yes.  We don not have a MIC, we have a GCCC ("Government Crony-Capitalist Complex)!  Pretty much how Hitler's Germany began to look once all the purges and consolidations were completed...Government and Key Industries hand in hand...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2014, 02:19:47 PM »
Looks like Vladi is ready to launch his Ukrainian invasion...fresh off another   ::vafancoul::  to the Gigilo Sec St.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/world/europe/ukraine.html?_r=0

Seems the Rooskies want blood and lots of it...

If somebody wants out of Ukraine the window of opportunity is fast closing...

This is not going to end well.  Even the Germans are mad, and we know how they got along with Russians last time...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2014, 01:50:43 PM »
“I voted for Russia as only Russia can save us from war in the region,” Nadezhda Kolkina, a 64-year-old pensioner
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-15/crimea-referendum-looms-as-kerry-fails-to-sway-russia.html

Dumbshyt probably voted for Brezhnev and every Rooskie since.  Congrats, you might be a deceased 64 year-old pensioner soon. 
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2014, 07:29:42 AM »


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-16/us-vs-russia-3-cartoons

And that pretty much goes hand in hand with this...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-16/congress-may-impose-sanctions-russia-when-it-comes-back-vacation-march-24

Basically - Ukraine is not important to us, agreements we sign are fungible (but so is the Constitution and all laws that follow it, so...) and Europe being closer and more impacted is even more useless and toothless...so, sorry Ukraine, you are royally fukced!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-17/crimea-names-ruble-currency-applies-join-russia-expects-become-region-russian-federa

If you really want to grab Rooskie attention, one must blow up key Gazprom stations, you are going to get absorbed/invaded anyway, might as well make it hurt as much as possible, and plan for a protracted insurgency for the foreseeable future...everybody who doesn't want to fight or die sh old GTFO of Dodge while they still can.

ETA -

Wow, check this out...Obama/Democrat-Style Voting Results! 

123% Sevastopol turnout!

Russia, eff yeah!

And O'Chimpy (a little Blarney there!) can only issue sanctions of a few Rooskie big shots...not Vladi, that would be poor form...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/obama-announces-sanctions-against-7-russian-officials-russian-markets-rally-over-weak-response/

...what a zero!
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