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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #500 on: February 26, 2022, 11:38:54 AM »
The politics around this is muddled and that's expected for all of the clowns...every one is like a spoiled child wanting everything their way.

Well, whatever. 

It looks like the decision to send in the JV team - separatists with ancient Soviet crap and B-squad Russian units was able to break in at great cost and roll in the middle but are having a harder time now.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-says-it-derailed-russian-attack-plan-kiev-offensive-resumes

I was watching what live feeds I could, can catch some activity...interestingly, while they might be keeping grids up...it took them a while but as they finally started noticing the private webcams about the country they started trashing them...

And they don't appear to be using many "smart" bombs or if they are they must be targeting residential areas or just suck at it...

Some apparently get off on it...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1497227246691516418

...miraculously I think they said the driver survived.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10553451/They-storm-tonight-Zelensky-says-Putins-forces-launch-scale-assault-Kyiv.html

And DeepState totally misread Zelensky...he resisted their script and was seeking his own, and now he is relishing shaming their faces in it like rubbing a naughty dogs face in his turd on the carpet...and he is still resisting their BS! -

He knows only he can speak for his people, not agenda-driven losers thousands of miles away...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/25/ukraine-and-russia-officials-negotiating-a-meeting-biden-administration-tells-zelenskyy-to-stop-only-u-s-permitted-to-negotiate-with-russia/

...and how pathetic is it that the US DeepState is throwing the Mahdi Death Cult appeasement into the mix...Zelensky needs to keep control of the military and diplomatic initiatives!

And this typical chicken-sh*t ploy to get him to abandon his nation and people is beneath all dignity....

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy turned down an offer from the United States to evacuate Kyiv, the capital city, the Associated Press reported late Friday.

“The fight is here’ I need ammunition, not a ride,” the president reportedly told American officials.


https://www.toddstarnes.com/military-2/i-need-ammo-not-a-ride-ukraines-president-rejects-us-evacuation-offer/

They would like nothing better than to have a puppet leader-in-exile to speak through and milk the suffering of innocents to the last drop...and Zelensky wisely told them to eff off.

I have no problem giving them military and humanitarian aid and let them fight for their survival, doesn't require our boots on ground, sea or air...apart from merely being the delivery boy.

They fighting for themselves, let them.  I'd want the same were the situation reversed.  Anybody professing to be free and independent would.

Meanwhile...the supposed Russia-haters are letting their allies in BigBroTech keep offical Russia propaganda to roam free in the etherverse while de-platform American voices!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/big-tech-allows-russian-propaganda-de-platform-pro-american-voices/

Gosh, sure looks like they've chosen the Russian government side, eh?   JoeFraud's shutdown of domestic pumping, piping and exploration has us buying foreign oil...even (gasp!) Russian oil!
 ::pokeineye::

And Czar Vlad is cracking down on anti-war protestors like a Western imperialist dog...



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/anti-war-protests-break-out-russian-cities-many-shocked-scale-ukraine-war

Too bad Putin still has Navalny locked up...he exposed corruption in Russia like an American cross version of James O'Keefe and Rush Limbaugh.  Apparently he has condemned the invasion of Ukraine.  Funny, how no matter the geographic location...despots hate any kind of opposition and will use any means necessary to crush it.  Here, there, everywhere...all sh!t!

And the DeepState isn't even denying it fed info to the Russians via contacts with CCP in a idiotic attempt to dissuade Russia!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/25/new-york-times-reports-u-s-intel-agencies-spent-three-months-seeding-information-into-russia-through-china/

Only and imbecile or a conspirator thinks this was a good idea!

And so sad too bad our 2020 election was corrupt as all Hell...

Biden, 2019: "Imagine what can happen in Ukraine" if Trump is reelected.

Yeah...

62 percent of respondents believe that Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump was still president...59 percent also responded that they believe Putin made such a move because he saw a weakness in President Joe Biden.


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #501 on: February 26, 2022, 03:20:13 PM »
Russians bringing a sh*tload more tanks from Kharkiv.

And fighting on opposite side of river in Kyiv...

https://twitter.com/Mike_Eckel/status/1497632664362311685

Russian artillery has hit a children's cancer hospital in Kyiv. 

Gonna need a ton more of these...

https://twitter.com/not_a_pog/status/1497617533351960576

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #502 on: February 26, 2022, 04:35:28 PM »
The Duran have some sources included some guy who lives in Ukraine but made a business trip to Kiev and got stuck in a hotel.
They report that the Russians are mostly encircling big cities then waiting.
So far infrastructure remains working. Electrical, water, sewage, internet, cell phones.

Some reports that the Ukrainians are using the weapons handed out to settle old grievances amongst each other.

History of the North Crimean Canal blocking. 2014.
https://youtu.be/yE0OLBlCMcU

10 min summary. Videos. The US misled Ukraine into thinking they could enter NATO then abandoned them.

Here or elsewhere? Zelensky screwed up by threatening to obtain nukes. Idiot.
That and the increased shelling are the 2 reasons why Russia invaded Thursday.

https://rumble.com/vvufbo-nato-expansion-meets-russian-bear-and-protests-in-russia.html

Around 1:14:00 he talks about Putin's Feb 24 "Empire of Lies Speech", in which he attacks the US as decadent and degenerate. Putin is attacking wokism. That is why so many leftists in the US and West hate him.

https://youtu.be/3H6vffCdQpk?t=4444

I had styxhexenhammer666 on via roku rumble. He said Turkey closed the Bosporus straights to the black sea to Russian warships. Erdogan plays 3D chess while on LSD.

I had the Duran on. They said that the Russians confirmed that Zelensky's remarks in Munich saying he wanted nukes (or would get nukes?) coupled with lack of push back from other attendees triggered the Russians to attack immediately. He said the others even applauded.

They said that more countries are getting go board disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.
This would lead to the end of the USD as the world reserve currency and would be terrible for the US and very stupid. Russia would then require payment in other currencies and people would sell dollars and treasuries to obtain other currencies.

They are agreed that Zelensky was cruel in giving out weapons to citizens and maybe trying to get them killed for public propaganda purposes.

https://youtu.be/k-ClabtQngM
Military engineers of the Black Sea Fleet destroy dam on the North Crimean Canal which has been cutting off water supply to Crimea since being built by Ukrainian nationalists in 2014. There was no damage to the canal itself.

This guest mentions Putin's recent Empire of Lies speech at 2:25:00
This guy lives in Ukraine but was visiting Kiev when the Russians invaded and got stuck their.

https://youtu.be/APcb-Yyy7Aw?t=8676
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #503 on: February 26, 2022, 04:42:54 PM »


I watched a clip of Russian anti war protesters being arrested. I noticed how civilized the police were in comparison to the recent Canadian and Australian police. If you live long enough you see everything. I hope the US is not stupid enough to disconnect Russia from SWIFT. Say goodbye to the USD being the world reserve currency.

The US backed the 2014 Ukraine coup leading to the present mess just to stop a trade deal with Russia.
Then the US govt spurned Russia leading to them getting into bed with China.
I doubt those were the goals. Morons.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #504 on: February 27, 2022, 11:21:30 AM »


I watched a clip of Russian anti war protesters being arrested. I noticed how civilized the police were in comparison to the recent Canadian and Australian police. If you live long enough you see everything. I hope the US is not stupid enough to disconnect Russia from SWIFT. Say goodbye to the USD being the world reserve currency.

The US backed the 2014 Ukraine coup leading to the present mess just to stop a trade deal with Russia.
Then the US govt spurned Russia leading to them getting into bed with China.
I doubt those were the goals. Morons.

Well gosh, gentle arrests are swell...but political opposition is not tolerated...a fair trade?   ::whatgives::

They/Them, in their infinite cowardice and stupidity which is always tugging them/they in different directions...are trying to split the baby...

(Update 5:10pm ET): In the latest major escalation, late on Saturday European nations together with the US have issued a joint statement in which they announce the following restrictive economic measuresthings:

Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

The immediate effect may be people pulling out of these banks...and we'll see if Putin lets them...or expends internal resources that will paste it over until China gleefully comes to the rescue and make Russia indebted to it for decades to come.  Because if Putin & the Oligarchs eff the people over...they'll have millions of pissed off people on their hands and anarchy.

And you are oversimplifying 2014 as a mere "trade deal"...such deals with Russia give them extortion power over the flow of energy...it is not just about gas and oil...it's about making a vassal of another nation...it's what Ukraine and all the pipelines in Europe to the Middle East are about...power and control.  East vs West...with those caught in the middle like Ukraine always guaranteed to piss the other off because they are not allowed the third option of true independence.

And the US did not spurn Russia...the DeepState spurned Russia on behalf of their globalist co-conspirators and the politicians grifting off the spoils...We the People are as fvcked as the Ukrainians...it's just nobody is shooting us...yet.  And Russia chose China long before the DeepState spurned them...they've never gotten over losing the Cold War and losing the spoils gained from WWII...instead of being relieved to be free of the poison of Communism they embraced the Mobocracy of Oligarchy...and they probably blame the US for that choice as well...when in fact back when they fell I told people "let's see if they can properly shake off their shackles and reject new ones and embrace freedom...or the decision to not move in and occupy them through the transfer may be looked back on as a mistake".  Think they'll be hands off if we collapse?  I doubt it, all will come for the spoils.

And given recent news that the invasion of Ukraine is bogging down due to stiff resistance...concerns over their logistics and inventory are increasing...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-forces-slowed-strong-ukrainian-resistance-officials-say

Zelensky offers a meeting without preconditions...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-president-agrees-hold-talks-without-preconditions-russia-belarus-border

...no Russian response except more shelling.

Musk asked to provide StarLink service...delivered in 10 hours...

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/02/ukraines-vice-pm-asks-elon-musk-to-deliver-starlink-internet-musk-gets-it-going-in-10-hours/

And if this part is true: Evidence Suggests U.S. Intel Baited Russia in December by Telling China Ukraine Was Coming Into NATO

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/26/stunning-discovery-evidence-suggests-u-s-intel-baited-russia-in-december-by-telling-china-ukraine-was-coming-into-nato/

...which puts the blame squarely in DeepState/DemCom/Globalist hands...and given the following news, I guess their incompetent reading of The Strong Man of Russia and the mental/historical baggage that comes with it puts the world at peril...

And now apparently "strong words" is sufficient cause to put Russia's nuclear forces on their version of DefCon1...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/breaking-video-putin-orders-nuclear-deterrent-forces-high-alert/

...anybody thinking that is a good idea or that the US and other nuclear powers won't respond in-kind may be terminally insane.

(US) Defense Department official refused to say if the US nuclear posture has changed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-orders-nuclear-deterrence-high-alert-nato-warns-unacceptable-escalation

Welcome to 1962 redux.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #505 on: February 27, 2022, 12:29:46 PM »

The EU deals come with their own problems. Hungary and Poland are having funds with held for not kissing EU butts.
I recall Poland chose their judges in a way that upset the EU top brass. Hungary?
Countries that are in the Eurozone (whatever that means) can get screwed big time.
 Alex on the Duran still remembers when the EU froze bank accounts in Cyprus and took out funds as a bank "bail in."

The Duran says that the threat to freeze funds of the Russian central bank is a huge deal. Bigger than the partial SWIFT sanctions. They say this is the beginning of the end of the USD and the reserve currency as countries have to find work arounds. Also Russian exports are not ended. China is a winner in this.

Russia is restricting  over flights in response to sanctions on Russian airlines which screws EU and UK airlines flying to China and SE Asia.

Duran reports that EU is restricting RT and Sputnik news. Meanwhile, Russia allows open internet and cell service in Ukraine to reduce panic.


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #506 on: February 27, 2022, 12:42:14 PM »
It appears the banking crisis has begun...

https://twitter.com/jason_corcoran/status/1497855075166871554

https://twitter.com/jason_corcoran/status/1497889119917297665

Belarus hackers messing with transportation in Belarus...

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1497951707023695874

And news that the financial director of Gazprom killed himself...

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497772957908848649

And this is disturbing...Russia deploying fuel-air weapons (thermobarics) in Ukraine?  I heard chatter of this earlier...such systems are non-nuclear WMD's...

https://twitter.com/darksecretplace/status/1497701241148768258

It does look like a TOS-1 Buratino type system...thermobarics create an "overpressure" blast...they are devastating.

Far as anyone knows they've only been used on Afghans back in the Soviet invasion there...that they seem fine using it on brother Slavs speaks volumes.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #507 on: February 27, 2022, 12:50:01 PM »

The EU deals come with their own problems. Hungary and Poland are having funds with held for not kissing EU butts.
I recall Poland chose their judges in a way that upset the EU top brass. Hungary?
Countries that are in the Eurozone (whatever that means) can get screwed big time.
 Alex on the Duran still remembers when the EU froze bank accounts in Cyprus and took out funds as a bank "bail in."


The Duran says that the threat to freeze funds of the Russian central bank is a huge deal. Bigger than the partial SWIFT sanctions. They say this is the beginning of the end of the USD and the reserve currency as countries have to find work arounds. Also Russian exports are not ended. China is a winner in this.

Russia is restricting  over flights in response to sanctions on Russian airlines which screws EU and UK airlines flying to China and SE Asia.

Duran reports that EU is restricting RT and Sputnik news. Meanwhile, Russia allows open internet and cell service in Ukraine to reduce panic.

Normal business practices anywhere...and mild compared to some...

Then everyone is happy I reckon...

Heh, could be a win in disguise.

Well, sure...control info at home...monitor traffic in-theater (and knock out some private webcams monitoring movements)...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #508 on: February 27, 2022, 02:03:10 PM »
From the duran mostly

Their guest CRP inside the hotel in Kiev reports. Russians encounter some Ukraine soldiers, exchange fire, then withdraw and surround the cities. Karkov is surrounded and Kiev almost surrounded. People report to him via cell phones what they see outside their windows in Karkov and other places.

Ukrainians 18-60 are being conscripted, dragged out of cars and buses trying to leave Ukraine.

The Russian troops in the front lines are second tier with very old tanks. Also militias from the Eastern provinces. First tier held in reserve for now.

Overflying Russia saves lots of time and fuel. Sanctions against Russian airlines were retaliated with by banning overflights which hurts airlines big time. Don't these people think ahead?

Some docs on Ukraine I vaguely recall.
Good docs on Ukraine
https://rumble.com/vtjxhf-ukraine-on-fire-the-real-story-oliver-stone-2016.html
https://rumble.com/vvygeb-revealing-ukraine-investigations-into-the-crisis-following-ukraine-on-fire.html

Zelensky is handing out weapons to civilians. Maybe you need Telegram to view this. Video

https://t.me/realCRP/3350

https://youtu.be/1qS6J-WbTD8

Vladimir Putin's Speech on Ukraine and US Foreign Policy and NATO - 24 February 2022, ENG Subtitles
"Empire of Lies"
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Feb 24, 2022
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Address by  President Vladimir Putin of the Russian Federation on the Military Intervention in Ukraine; a Critique of U.S. - led foreign policy in Yugoslavia/Serbia, Libya, Syria, and Iraq; and the goals of the Russian Federation in Ukraine

Alexander says he just got a notice that his energy rates in London will increase 54% in April, the max cap allowed. Perhaps another 54% in 6 months as max allowed.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #509 on: February 27, 2022, 02:36:28 PM »
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #510 on: February 28, 2022, 09:21:54 AM »
As always everything morons do here is half-assed and hurting us more than them...with some exceptions...

This, however is insane - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/still-buying-crude-oil-putin-wiring-money-every-day-american-billionaire-john-catsimatidis/

This may explain in part why the Chechen Orcs are turning tail and running back home...

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/02/27/ukraine-national-guard-shares-video-of-fighters-greasing-bullets-in-pig-fat-for-chechen-orcs/

 ::whoohoo::

Yeah, using your Muslim vassals....brilliant...defeated by pig lard!   ::hysterical::

Rus kill AN-225...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/russian-forces-destroy-worlds-largest-aircraft-ukraine

https://youtu.be/XwJgd-zE4L4

Meanwhile, some Oligarchs PO'd...forget the guys name...but he's pissed he's lost access to his luxury villa in Italy somewhere...
...but to shore up the banks and the Ruble...they're offering the masses a 20% bribe to stay...but close their markets...putting liquidity into just one egg...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-more-doubles-interest-rate-20-halt-rouble-collapse-suspends-stock-trading-moscow

...now the clock starts for how long that can sustain before calling Xi...

And this mornings talks on the Ukraine-Belarus border see the Ukrainians disappointed at the low-level Russian delegation...probably the reason behind their demand to have Russia out of all of Ukraine...including the annexed territories...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-frustrated-low-level-russian-delegation-ceasefire-talks-kick-belarus

And in a confirmation of my reading of the Russian Mind (Self-appointed Ruler of all Slavs, fixated on butthurt of the Soviet collapse and loss of all their spoils to unjustified vassals yearning to be free) read this that was pulled down but wisely archived -

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/02/27/did-a-quickly-deleted-essay-in-russian-media-explain-what-vladimir-putin-wants-russia-to-gain-from-the-ukraine-invasion-n529150

...so batshyt-crazy they are threatening Sweden & Finland.  I tell ya, Sweden & Norway missing the boat on preeminence one-up's - their Viking ancestors created the Rus, they are their masters!  :D

And yeah, the Colonel is right, they shouldn't be censoring him and disparaging him...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/27/col-douglas-macgregor-has-a-slightly-different-take-on-russia-ukraine-conflict/

...the fighting is in the country more than the cities...where they've cut off the cameras and where little happens outside Russian control...and they are looking to be in siege-mode on the large cities...at some point I can see humanitarian air-drops of food and medicine...and we'll see if Russia shoots them down...

And yeah, it's a shame the rat-fink commie media here is totally missing the discovery of the Ukrainians of the merits of individual gun rights with their new Law #5708...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-left-ignoring-ukrainian-gun-rights

...the MarxistMedia is all well this is necessary because of invasion...but the reasons for individual gun rights is always necessary for a host of reasons!

In fact, civilians have been given RPGs as well!

The article shows this pic - - and it warms my heart...as did a video I saw of three young ladies with rifles hunkering down through a long night.

The Left's cognitive dissonance is palpable.

Self-defense is a God-given human right!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #512 on: March 01, 2022, 08:25:29 AM »
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2022/02/28/angry-ukrainian-exacts-revenge-on-russian-bosss-superyacht-and-theres-a-rest-of-the-story-at-play-n529404

Nice.  And nice of the Spaniards to let him go...  Another motivated recruit for the motherland.

And if Putin really let himself be baited by these idiots...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/28/former-russian-ambassador-and-current-cia-director-bill-burns-knew-exactly-what-would-trigger-vladimir-putin-to-enter-ukraine/

...another stain on his reputed intellect.

That, and...thinking the Ukraine invasion would be a cake-walk and thinking the poor oppressed wretches of Ukraine would welcome the Rus Champions liberating them...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1498304340083318791

...yeah, they look thrilled. 

/

Pretty sure I recognized some...uhh, not nice words...

The mighty Russian Army...



...slowed by a vastly over-matched opponent.



Could use some more Javelins...and just think what a few squadrons of A-10's could have done to their columns coming down from Belarus & up from occupied Crimea?

And this is disappointing...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/zelensky-says-putin-is-now-resorting-to-the-tactics-of-a-terrorist-in-ukraine-offensive-01646140085

...so much for America being the only bombers of schools and hospitals.

See where that EU applications goes...be nice if they took the lead and let us exit NATO and the continent!   :D

And what the heck is this?



Paranoid?  Or is there actually credible threats to him at home?

That'd be a new twist.

I guess we'll find out what the DeepState puppetmasters whispered into jello-head JoeFrauds ear...



...and if it is suicidal for us...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #513 on: March 01, 2022, 12:02:41 PM »
Using Turkish drones on Russian targets -

https://youtu.be/T7L4VK3JLms

Ouch.

Ukraine or not?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1498136122324447234

...sorry, no...Seattle. 

Moving on...

Update(10:53amET): Russia's military is urging civilians to leave areas near Ukrainian army bases and communications facilities in Kiev, warning that it is now conducting strikes against these specified targets.

"In order to suppress information attacks against Russia, the technological facilities of the SBU and the 72nd main PSO center in Kyiv will be hit with high-precision weapons," the Russian MoD statement said according to TASS. "We call on Ukrainian citizens attracted by Ukrainian nationalists to carry out provocations against Russia, as well as residents of Kyiv living near relay nodes leave their homes."

Based on widely circulating footage, it appears the invading Russian forces have begun to take out communications towers and antennas, as well as Ukrainian military infrastructure - also amid continuing reports that residential areas are increasingly under threat amid the siege of Kiev.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/miles-long-russian-infantry-tank-convoy-bears-down-kiev-next-ceasefire-talks-expected

No sh!t?!  They've been using mortars, rockets and missiles in cities...and I'm not impressed with their aim.  So far, having a hard time finding info on where the thermobarics have been used...but, being thermobarics there is probably no surviving evidence to pass along.

Talks got nowhere...

https://www.theepochtimes.com/russia-ukraine-ceasefire-talks-end-with-no-agreement_4306941.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily

...big surprise...

Russia - Surrender unconditionally and submit to Russian rule.

Ukraine - Go eff yourself.

The End.

Speaking of The End...this fits...

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2022/february/god-is-getting-ready-to-do-something-amazing-founder-pat-robertson-on-russia-and-its-place-in-prophecy

...well, there is a warning in that book about adding or detracting...so I;ll abstain...

All I know is desperate Marxists and brain-dead NeoCon Cucks are foaming at the mouth to intervene directly...and as far as I know Putin has Russia's nuclear forces at top readiness...while algorithms mimicking our REMFs has us at a middling 3... but when I went to rest last night a third E4B (doomsday plane) took to the air...hard finding them today...I know one landed in Lincoln, another been parked in Dayton.  Anyway, at just DefCon3 and there were 3 E4B's up last night?  WTF?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #514 on: March 01, 2022, 02:33:32 PM »
Alexander of the Duran reports that 60 - 100K Kiev troops are almost encircled in the East. Maybe 1/3 of Ukrainian ground troops. The Russians call it the cauldron. He says that the East is important, not Kiev.

Most weapons from the west are going to Poland. Kiev is blowing up bridges? Even Greece is sending weapons to Ukraine.

He says the west is a firehouse of info and propaganda while Russia is silent. [EU-NATO v Russia proxy war developing. No-fly zone floated. Morning Update 1
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #515 on: March 01, 2022, 03:12:01 PM »
The no-fly zone is being pushed by the WWIII craving asshats I mentioned earlier...they have no idea.  There is things nations could have done to shore up Ukrainian defenses...going back to last April (just a couple months after JoeFraud was installed and Putin did his exercises/buildup!)...that could have protected their independence (and just think what that could have achieved, they're doing a lot with a hell of a lot less!)...so either Ukranians are bad-ass soldiers, Russians not as great as made out...or a mix of both!...but nobody did nothing, now, a mad dash and batshyt-crazy desires to vaporize the planet...WHY?  They hate people, serfs actually...they want them subjugated...and Vlad wants the same for his reasons of lost grandeur, prestige...breathing space...yadda yadda yadda...mostly to suck Ukraine dry...

And he does want Kiev, he cannot seal his annexation and fulfill his promises to the rebels of the East without another Lukashenko installed as a loyal vassal.

Of course the West is a firehouse of propaganda...you familiar with SocialistMedia , MarxistMFM & BigBroTech axis of info evil?  East is easy to control, everything is tightly controlled at the official level...but not as hard to get info out of like Red China who is 100% batshyt-totalitarian...it's what Marxists here love best about the Red Devils!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #518 on: March 02, 2022, 11:25:22 AM »
The no-fly zone is being pushed by the WWIII craving asshats I mentioned earlier...they have no idea.  There is things nations could have done to shore up Ukrainian defenses...going back to last April (just a couple months after JoeFraud was installed and Putin did his exercises/buildup!)...that could have protected their independence (and just think what that could have achieved, they're doing a lot with a hell of a lot less!)...so either Ukranians are bad-ass soldiers, Russians not as great as made out...or a mix of both!...but nobody did nothing, now, a mad dash and batshyt-crazy desires to vaporize the planet...WHY?  They hate people, serfs actually...they want them subjugated...and Vlad wants the same for his reasons of lost grandeur, prestige...breathing space...yadda yadda yadda...mostly to suck Ukraine dry...

And he does want Kiev, he cannot seal his annexation and fulfill his promises to the rebels of the East without another Lukashenko installed as a loyal vassal.

Of course the West is a firehouse of propaganda...you familiar with SocialistMedia , MarxistMFM & BigBroTech axis of info evil?  East is easy to control, everything is tightly controlled at the official level...but not as hard to get info out of like Red China who is 100% batshyt-totalitarian...it's what Marxists here love best about the Red Devils!

They are saying that Ukraine is winning the PR propaganda war and that Russia is not even trying and is not even releasing propaganda inside Russia. However they are said to be focusing on the military angle and are winning. So Ukraine is said to be bravely holding back the Russians while the Russians are winning. Once they encircle the Ukrainian troops and big cities they can wait it out.  The Russians entered some Chechen city too soon years ago and got surrounded and clobbered and they remember that so not this time.

Biden admin said that a no fly zone is NOT going to happen.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #519 on: March 02, 2022, 11:56:11 AM »
The no-fly zone is being pushed by the WWIII craving asshats I mentioned earlier...they have no idea.  There is things nations could have done to shore up Ukrainian defenses...going back to last April (just a couple months after JoeFraud was installed and Putin did his exercises/buildup!)...that could have protected their independence (and just think what that could have achieved, they're doing a lot with a hell of a lot less!)...so either Ukranians are bad-ass soldiers, Russians not as great as made out...or a mix of both!...but nobody did nothing, now, a mad dash and batshyt-crazy desires to vaporize the planet...WHY?  They hate people, serfs actually...they want them subjugated...and Vlad wants the same for his reasons of lost grandeur, prestige...breathing space...yadda yadda yadda...mostly to suck Ukraine dry...

And he does want Kiev, he cannot seal his annexation and fulfill his promises to the rebels of the East without another Lukashenko installed as a loyal vassal.

Of course the West is a firehouse of propaganda...you familiar with SocialistMedia , MarxistMFM & BigBroTech axis of info evil?  East is easy to control, everything is tightly controlled at the official level...but not as hard to get info out of like Red China who is 100% batshyt-totalitarian...it's what Marxists here love best about the Red Devils!

They are saying that Ukraine is winning the PR propaganda war and that Russia is not even trying and is not even releasing propaganda inside Russia. However they are said to be focusing on the military angle and are winning. So Ukraine is said to be bravely holding back the Russians while the Russians are winning. Once they encircle the Ukrainian troops and big cities they can wait it out.  The Russians entered some Chechen city too soon years ago and got surrounded and clobbered and they remember that so not this time.

Biden admin said that a no fly zone is NOT going to happen.

Yeah, this thing is still fluid...they have the major cities surrounded so it is a matter of do they want to try to starve them out then roll in or roll in when they feel like it...either way people in those cities will perish by the score...and Vlad will own it.  Regardless , if he and his pals think post-apocalyptic Ukraine is going to be a happy place for Russians and Russian-allies they're nuts...it could be a hotbed of partisan patriot insurgency for years if not decades and they'll lose the propaganda war no matter what and it's going to make EU/NATO move in harder to the other nations and ensure a permanent Cold War II (at best)...so, Putin gave our asshats back here everything they could have hoped for...

Looks like the textbook definition of a pyric victory...
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