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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #580 on: March 11, 2022, 02:51:15 PM »
Never did find that post but if those body bags I saw being tossed one on top of another had protesters in them they're some sore protesters, I pity the ones on the bottom

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #581 on: March 11, 2022, 03:05:31 PM »
Never did find that post but if those body bags I saw being tossed one on top of another had protesters in them they're some sore protesters, I pity the ones on the bottom

Yep, but how would anybody know if there were even really bodies in those bags?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #582 on: March 11, 2022, 03:09:48 PM »
Like I said, I wish I didn't drop Spanish. Their reporters are right there in the mix, not like ours. I guess I can't really compare since I don't watch ours ::thinking::

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #583 on: March 11, 2022, 03:18:00 PM »
Has anyone seen the tossing of bodies into a mass trench on our media. Saw it last nite on Univision, gruesome. Too bad I dropped Spanish 60 years ago.

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AC, just FYI, that clip is debunked as having nothing to do with Ukraine/Russia. It is from an Austrian ‘climate’ protest where protesters dramatically wrapped themselves in ‘body bags’, Greta Thunberg-style. #Foxfail.

From here:  https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/news-briefs-03-11-2022/

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I saw a different clip of bodies being tossed into a trench.

Here is another link to the fake attack.
https://turnbackhoax.id/2022/03/11/false-the-doctored-ukrainian-health-ministry-57-dead-169-hurt-across-ukraine-as-russia-launches-attack-video/
https://youtu.be/2o3Rph8DcUY

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #584 on: March 12, 2022, 12:35:55 PM »
That's not Spanish...it's German.  Climate Cultists video recycled...why we even talking about that?

In Ukraine news...

I see only a little more movement along existing paths.

https://liveuamap.com

I did see a clip where those "dispersed" armor from the column came under attack in the Brovary area...Ukes on foot hit some armor, then some armor responded.  The dispersal is going to still take hits but not like bunched on a road, but the going will be slowed as a result.  And choke points the closer you press in the more opportunity to score bigger hits.  You may be correct that Putin doesn't want to enter Kyiv but not for negotiation reasons...rather for not running up his casualty count.  In the attack video it was interesting how the Russian troops ran away from the battle in the opposite direction of the Uke fire instead of joining the charge.  That may keep foot soldiers alive but it leaves the armor on its own.  So much for coordinated attack ability, and no air support at all.  Ukes still have drones hitting armor targets too.

Meanwhile, the Rus threaten to leave the American on the ISS behind...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-threatens-leave-us-astronaut-and-abandon-space-station

...IMO that has to be hyperbole...if Putin is stupid enough to be that despicable then what is to stop any form of retaliation? 

As for this I think it is silly to expect anything...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-its-ready-resume-strategic-arms-reduction-treaty-talks-us

...they might be flying soon and that is the only reduction in stockpiles I can foresee.

And this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-threatens-attack-nato-weapons-shipments-ukraine-legitimate-targets

...since ingress and egress of transfers is covert, so too can be the defense of any attempted interdiction or attack.

And this story bears monitoring, though likely in a post-mortem sense, as I don't know how much we can rely on anybody's info on this while it is unfolding...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/03/12/ukrainian-killing-field-belarusian-hospitals-are-reportedly-overflowing-with-rus-n2604464

...all I know for certain is that the Russians did set up extensive hospital tents in their Belarus & Russia staging points...and that it cannot be discounted that Putin would consider anything to suppress the true body count of this invasion, but all it could do is postpone the outrage at home when families learn their "missing" are not found anywhere in Ukraine after the dust settles...and nobody is saying where they are.

I did see something new on the flight overwatch front.  For a long time now US & NATO nations have been doing Rivet Joint monitoring from the borders of Belarus, Moldova and the Black Sea...they can snoop 2500 miles inside borders at high altitude, and tankers have been in the air by the several indicating fighters on CAP have been up a long time...and heavy-movers (troops/equipment) the globe over have been buzzing more since this all started...but now I saw this morning a Rivet Joint (JAKE11) divert from a North/South Belarus border pattern to circling Konigberg (what the Rus call Kalinigrad since Soviet days)...making me wonder if action in the Baltics is brewing.

IMO that would guarantee WWIII.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #585 on: March 12, 2022, 12:54:37 PM »
Sorry, I seriously doubt the reporters from Telemundo & Univision are speaking German. ::hysterical::

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #586 on: March 12, 2022, 04:47:46 PM »
Dude, Pat's last link clip sure didn't sound Spanish to me, sounded harsh and guttural...

https://youtu.be/2o3Rph8DcUY

Turn up your volume...it's fricken German...the dude's name is emblazoned as Marvin Bergauer , "Wien: Demo gegen Klimapolitik" is German.  Did you think this was a Spanish link???

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #587 on: March 13, 2022, 05:33:40 AM »
I thought you were referring to my previous post. Your link is not what I saw on Univision
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #588 on: March 13, 2022, 12:30:59 PM »
Pat's link, not mine...anyway...lost in translation... LOL

Latest news...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/ny-times-journalist-brent-renaud-shot-killed-outskirts-kyiv/

Well...like oligarchs in any nation...MFM reporters...kinda hard to work up much sympathy for, eh?

And since I don't follow fighting sports much...no idea Mayor of Kyiv was WBO heavyweight champion...kind of an interesting read...

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-700968

...he was pretty neutral on the advice by Israeli PM to Zelensky to accept the Russian surrender terms...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israels-pm-bennett-told-zelensky-accept-putins-terms-ending-war-report

...and there is even disagreement in Israel on what was advocated or by who...so Klitschko was probably wise to stay neutral.

And, since JoeFraud ended all the positive foreign policy initiatives Trump achieved...driving India back into Russian arms was inevitable...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-mulling-rupee-ruble-payments-system-trade-russia

...all these Marxist punks are doing is destroying America within and without!

But is Putin lets Belarus go into Ukraine...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10603637/Now-Belarus-set-invade-Ukraine-Kyiv-claims-Lukashenkos-forces-cross-border-tonight.html

...I think the scat will hit the fan.

Frankly, I think Russia isn't going to stop at Ukraine...I think Moldova is in play for certain...and trouble brewing to the North could pop at anytime, so scat on fan is probably still a legitimate bet.

And, nice to see the Climate Cultists worried about nuclear war...albeit for the wrong reasons...but since they're concerned, all the woke morons and sundry leftist mouth-breathers have ready protection available...


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #589 on: March 13, 2022, 02:38:08 PM »


I found thus 2016 video with Eng subtitles from a French reporter. The first 2 min worth watching for sure IMO.

https://youtu.be/YMAsASgVvSA
 
Donbas 2016 - ( English Subs ) documentary by Anne-Laure Bonnel
Anne-Laure Bonnel, a young director and mother of a French family, decided to accompany Alexander, a father of Ukrainian family, to the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine in a pro-Russian zone. At the heart of the war, she captures the terrible images of a deadly conflict and an unprecedented humanitarian disaster.
This film until now was only to be found in Russian with French subtitles on YouTube, that’s why I decided to offer a version with subtitles in English and German
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #590 on: March 14, 2022, 08:04:36 AM »
Heh, yeah...the history of the region can only go back so far...else somebody else's ox gets gored...so lets stop history, umm right here...yeah, that's the ticket!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #591 on: March 14, 2022, 11:53:21 AM »
Latest news...

ChiComs hurting...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-ukraine-invasion-bad-news-chinas-belt-and-road-ambitions

Yeah, that's a shame...   ::smallestviolin::

Looks to me, some anonymous baiting intended to cause some friction in the Rus-CCP relationship...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-urging-chinas-military-help-ukraine-biden-admin-says-sunday-afternoon-media

...I don't see ChiCom's providing any direct or indirect military support to Russia...as it would complicate the CCP's own exploitation of events for its own purposes with respect to the Pacific rim and it's economic aims for the globe.

Again, we'll see where such theatrics lead.

And, outside of the usual steady tanker/E3/RiverJoint monitoring of the region by the West nothing else out of the ordinary.

Things on the ground look static - https://liveuamap.com

Some sporadic activity around Kyiv, TV towers hit West of Kyiv, some concentration of Russians around Luhansk region impacting civilian evacuations, Sumy being hit again...it's all sporadic most places...

Talks, sanctions, blah blah blah...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-are-all-latest-news-and-developments-ukraine-war-march-14

Branco cartoon pretty accurate from an average citizens point of view...



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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #592 on: March 14, 2022, 11:07:03 PM »
U.S. Biolabs in Ukraine confirmed by multiple sources (scroll up one click to view video with subtitles)

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #593 on: March 15, 2022, 07:56:33 AM »
U.S. Biolabs in Ukraine confirmed by multiple sources (scroll up one click to view video with subtitles)

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US biolabs in Ukraine confirmed by multiple sources including Russian MoD, US Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, and more! ?? INERNATIONAL BIOWEAPONS PROHIBITION VIOLATED BY THE USA!!! DEEP STATE BUSTED!

An election was stolen too...got BUSTED upside down and all around...last time I checked they all got away with that too...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #594 on: March 15, 2022, 09:06:11 AM »
War is sputtering out...maybe those rumors that the Russians don't have enough troops to completely surround Kyiv are true...maybe the rumors about Belarus entering are true as well?

Anyway, another technical pause, more meetings...some shells and rockets here and there...

https://liveuamap.com

Still have tankers et al, E-3's and snoopers patrolling the skies along the borders...

Meanwhile, back in Clown Town Mittens seems to be picking on somebody outside his weight class...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tulsi-gabbard-smeared-treasonous-liar-sen-romney-over-ukraine-biolab-concerns

...would enjoy seeing that beta-boy get his DeceptiCon ass kicked!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #595 on: March 15, 2022, 11:56:22 AM »
This is symbolic only...but still kinda funny...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/here-are-all-latest-news-and-developments-ukraine-war-march-15

This however is a bit more serious...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-signs-law-seize-foreign-aircraft-amid-crippling-sanctions

...nationalizing another companies assets is a going to cause a ripple effect...

...but, whatever...soon everybody will be fully self-absorbed.

As for this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/petrodollar-cracks-saudi-arabia-considers-accepting-yuan-chinese-oil-sales

...good luck with the Yuan...I find this much more interesting -

According to the report, the talks with China over yuan-priced oil contracts have been off and on for six years but have accelerated this year as the Saudis have grown increasingly unhappy with decades-old U.S. security commitments to defend the kingdom.

The Saudis are angry over the U.S.’s lack of support for their intervention in the Yemen civil war, and over the Biden administration’s attempt to strike a deal with Iran over its nuclear program. Saudi officials have said they were shocked by the precipitous U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan last year.


Right, wrong or indifferent on the issue of "American security" commitment...only one thing has materially altered the world this past year...The Steal and the installation of a corrupt illegitimate Biden government...none of the above was a problem under Trump...now, everything is a problem because this vile government wants to destroy everything.

Kinda makes it hard to GAFF about any of these jackasses...doesn't it?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #596 on: March 15, 2022, 02:06:20 PM »
^^^
All these sanctions have ripple effects. I think the US froze the Russian central bank assets in the US and  other countries did the same. I read that the fed thinks this is crazy and will harm the US but they were not even consulted.
Meanwhile, the US seized the Afghanistan central bank assets and gave half to the already well compensated 9/11 victims and half to their butt buddies in NGOs. Afghans are starving but who cares.



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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #597 on: March 15, 2022, 02:14:18 PM »
U.S. Biolabs in Ukraine confirmed by multiple sources (scroll up one click to view video with subtitles)

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US biolabs in Ukraine confirmed by multiple sources including Russian MoD, US Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, and more! ?? INERNATIONAL BIOWEAPONS PROHIBITION VIOLATED BY THE USA!!! DEEP STATE BUSTED!

Mittens rips Tulsi for saying there are biolabs in UA. She tears him a new A-hole.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/tulsi-gabbard-calls-mitt-romney-calling-treasonous-liar-destroys/#insticator-commenting

I hope that UA does not release some bio weapons then blame Russia. Remember how easy it was for AQ to stage some fake gas attacks in Syria and make the US AQ's air force?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #598 on: March 15, 2022, 02:27:57 PM »
Tulsi on the Ukraine "democracy" Ooops
https://youtu.be/505uQahvKvg
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #599 on: March 15, 2022, 02:35:14 PM »
^^^
All these sanctions have ripple effects. I think the US froze the Russian central bank assets in the US and  other countries did the same. I read that the fed thinks this is crazy and will harm the US but they were not even consulted.
Meanwhile, the US seized the Afghanistan central bank assets and gave half to the already well compensated 9/11 victims and half to their butt buddies in NGOs. Afghans are starving but who cares.

Yes, well, masters-of-the-universe do not have to consult or consider the opinions of minor state functionaries...in the DeepState pecking order they're down around with escorts and personal security...

Didn't hear that about 9/11 survivors...buttbuddies I believe is always the case...and the former Afghan Prez couldn't take all of the pallets of cash with him so a lot was left behind for the tallywhackers...let the poor/starving petition those swell gents.
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