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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #860 on: June 25, 2022, 12:01:38 PM »
Yeah, lets see how that works out...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #861 on: June 26, 2022, 11:04:02 AM »
So, the EU said that the sanctions did not cover transit of good from Russia to Russian Kaliningrad. The Lithuanian president said they would block the goods anyway.
https://youtu.be/-bHMBkz_Xfs

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Also, there were 800 civilians in the Azot plant according to the Russian MOD.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #862 on: June 27, 2022, 09:07:23 AM »
Not gonna bust Lithuania's balls...or any balls formerly in the vice of Soviet Russians...having said that, surprised such blatant defiance of central Euro power is not being punished...those clowns love to try to mess with Orban to no avail...perhaps more are feeling their sovereignty needs trump centralized dictates...IMO this overall is a good trend if it grows and holds...

And Russia is not hampered by air or sea...so Ivan needs to suck it up...

As for Belarus...well, Ukraine is accusing them of provoking them into retaliation as many of the 60+ missiles lobbed at them came from Belarus territory...and if the Russians want a nuclear exchange, basing nukes in Belarus is one way to go about it...

But I hear the Emperor was rushed to Moscow from some villa or other...rumors are rife he is dying of cancer...and just like Soviet days nobody in government says squat...to speak to outsiders about such things is how your body is discovered in the words...

But, at least Putin can be reasoned with...not that you will always be successful...but at least there is a chance...if Nikolai Patrushev succeeds him though...I think Russia gets a lot more nasty...and the world a lot bloodier...

Ah well, whatever...not our problem no matter what...who listens to us?

Oh, speaking of stupid...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/biden-g-7-will-ban-russian-gold-imports

Yes...acquiring tangible value for fiat...that must be stopped at all costs!   ::hysterical::

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And, not that I care, but...

prominent country that has not yet paid is the United States, causing a chunk of $693 million to be still missing from the UN's budget. In 2019, non-payment from the U.S. and other had caused the organization to almost run out of funds. Contributions from Brazil, China, Russia, Indonesia, Mexico and Saudi Arabia, among others, also remain unpaid in 2022.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/disunited-nations-who-has-hasnt-paid-their-dues

...it's a simple solution...private groups do it all the time...no pay, no vote...

I wish all didn't pay and it folded...but, again...when do we ever get what's right?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #863 on: June 27, 2022, 12:00:03 PM »
Total clown show on all sides...

Russia defaults...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-defaults-foreign-debt-first-time-bolshevik-revolution-amid-western-sanctions

...due to sanctions that hurt us more than them...

HIMARS not enough...gotta double the 50mi range to 100mi with NASMAS...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-readies-longer-range-missile-defense-system-ukraine-g7-hikes-sanctions

...which ups the violence level a little...

And makes sense given this - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/understanding-ny-times-article-cia-ukraine/

...not hard to learn how to set these up and fire them.

...but this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/lithuania-hit-major-cyberattack-russian-group-warns-more-until-kaliningrad-blockade

...seems a bit of a candy-ass move...

Cyber attacks?  Uhh, oookay...  ::)

And this looks unenforceable...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/g7-set-impose-price-caps-russian-oil-unclear-what-actually-achieves

...they going to board all those ships hooking up out there doing transfers at sea?

With everything going monkeycrap and people busy with their rage du juor and hissy fits...few are probably aware of what is going on outside their limited bubble...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #864 on: June 27, 2022, 07:32:08 PM »
Total clown show on all sides...

Russia defaults...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-defaults-foreign-debt-first-time-bolshevik-revolution-amid-western-sanctions

...due to sanctions that hurt us more than them...
...

Law suits from US bond holders expected.

Also, how do you identify Russian gold after it leaves the country? 
A major increase in Indian gold sales expected. With a slight mark up.

Also
Russia says it will deposit rubles into a Gazprom account for bond holders and let them withdraw it in the currency of their choice.
What then?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #865 on: June 28, 2022, 08:19:20 AM »
Total clown show on all sides...

Russia defaults...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-defaults-foreign-debt-first-time-bolshevik-revolution-amid-western-sanctions

...due to sanctions that hurt us more than them...
...

Law suits from US bond holders expected.

Also, how do you identify Russian gold after it leaves the country? 
A major increase in Indian gold sales expected. With a slight mark up.

Also
Russia says it will deposit rubles into a Gazprom account for bond holders and let them withdraw it in the currency of their choice.
What then?

On the sanctioned list...won't be able to withdraw squat...

Gold is a no-brainer...even if state/mint stamped...remove the stamp...provenance cured.

Meanwhile, both "sides" are holding hands and strengthening ties...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/brics-summit-reaffirms-russia-not-isolated-nato-suggests

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/27/global-energy-cleaving-continues-iran-and-argentina-apply-to-join-brics-economic-partnership/

Swell, might as well get North Korea, Cuba, Afghanistan, Pakistan & Pali's too. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-drastically-increase-high-readiness-forces-well-over-300000

40k to 300k...best get crackin'! 

Yeah, meanwhile with energy and food collapsing and economies on a death march...everybody will be fighting for scraps, firewood...bugs...

And the elite will be living like king's in protected sanctuaries...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #866 on: June 28, 2022, 12:08:13 PM »

The clowns are trying new sanctions. A price cap on Russian oil.
Good luck with that.
https://youtu.be/KSsTZVXgpoU
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #867 on: June 28, 2022, 03:28:07 PM »

The thought process of the US govt is beyond stupid.
1. The US govt knew that Kiev was going to attack around March. They had massed forces on the Donbass conflict line and had greatly increased shelling in preparation. They likely had other intelligence.
2. The US govt knew that Russian forces were grouped along the Ukr border in various locations.
3. The US govt knew that if Kiev attacked the Donbass Russia would counter attack.

The US did nothing to prevent this. They wanted war. Why?
Perhaps they had war gamed this to the point where there was war, the West sanctioned Russia, the Russian ruble and economy collapsed, and Putin was replaced. Just brilliant. /s

Plus former Ukr president Poreshenko recently said that the Minsk agreements were just to buy time to build up the army and dig in. He said there was never any attention to implement Minsk. The only lesson to be taken away from this by Russia is that diplomacy without military facts on the ground  is pointless.

Talking heads said that the US govt is split into 3 camps.
The Fed wants immediate end to US financial aid to Ukr.
The DOD wants an off ramp.
The State dept wants endless war.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #868 on: June 28, 2022, 05:49:46 PM »
For whatever it's worth ....I am not saying this is the truth
Here is the Russian version of the shopping center rocket hit. They say it is next to two military targets. They also note the mostly empty parking lot so 1000 people inside not likely. Perhaps not even open. Reports it was closed. Also why no women and children in the videos but many men. Some in uniform.Drone footage shows the fire came from behind the shopping center. Online reviews stopped 4 months ago for all stores.


https://t.me/Slavyangrad/2304
Fake: The Russian military shelled the Amstor shopping center in Kremenchug. This was announced by the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky.

Truth: The Amstor shopping center is located next to the Kremenchug road machinery plant and the Kremenchug railway station. In one of the videos, it seems to people that the rocket hit the plant (the phrase “Dormash, Dormash”). In addition, according to sources familiar with the course of the special operation, the Amstor shopping center was used as a warehouse for storing military equipment, just like the Retroville shopping center in Kiev.

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The shopping centre is called Amstor. If you look at their Facebook page, there is nothing (absolutely nothing) after February 23. Before that the page was regularly updated. Leads me to believe that it was closed. Even prior to that the shopping mall was closed for periods of time due to sagging roof (too much snow) and other issues. It was all in local publics.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #869 on: June 29, 2022, 08:51:45 AM »
Underdogs facing a more professional and better armed, equipped and led force almost always are forced to unconventional tactics and use whatever they can however they can...nothing new there...

And piggybacking on the FWIW/possibly true note...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-elite-unit-claims-sabotage-ops-inside-russia

Has been other evidence of behind the lines raids...and if they are admitting their casualties are at least 50%...chances are they are probably closer to 75%...

And this is way over on the what used to be Russia proper side of the pond...



https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/naval-mine-found-russias-cpcs-black-sea-terminal

WWII mine...discovered by a pier...just now...

Yeaaaah....uhh hiuh...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #870 on: June 29, 2022, 09:22:13 AM »
The mines placed by Kiev govt were very old. Ukr TV showed soldiers deactivting one on an Odessa beach. The lettering on the mine was blurred out because Kiev wanted to claim it was a Russian mine. Turkey complained because several Ukr mines wandered into Turkish waters.
 
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #871 on: June 29, 2022, 11:40:53 AM »
Must admit I am not impressed with Russian naval capability if a mine of any age can end up on their doorstep...

Lost their pride of the Black Sea too...

In other news - more targets coming...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/nato-announces-will-move-troops-western-border-ukraine-developments/

Who wants to die for no good reason, step forward.  Ha, just teasing...you poor bastards have no choice!  Ha haa haaaa!

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Time to GTFO...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #872 on: June 29, 2022, 02:00:04 PM »
Must admit I am not impressed with Russian naval capability if a mine of any age can end up on their doorstep...

Lost their pride of the Black Sea too...

In other news - more targets coming...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/nato-announces-will-move-troops-western-border-ukraine-developments/

Who wants to die for no good reason, step forward.  Ha, just teasing...you poor bastards have no choice!  Ha haa haaaa!

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Time to GTFO...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #873 on: June 29, 2022, 03:06:29 PM »
Must admit I am not impressed with Russian naval capability if a mine of any age can end up on their doorstep...

Lost their pride of the Black Sea too...

In other news - more targets coming...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/nato-announces-will-move-troops-western-border-ukraine-developments/

Who wants to die for no good reason, step forward.  Ha, just teasing...you poor bastards have no choice!  Ha haa haaaa!

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Time to GTFO...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #874 on: June 30, 2022, 09:38:41 AM »
OK, looks like everything is going to Hell in a handbasket...

As expected, the puppet JoeFraud imitated his Veep and grabbed his ankles to get Erdogan to sign off on the Swedes and Finns joining NATO...

On Tuesday of this week Turkey removed their block of Sweden and Finland from joining NATO, and on Wednesday Joe Biden agreed to sell Turkey 40 Lockheed Martin-made F-16 fighters and nearly 80 modernization kits for its existing warplanes.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/29/turkey-drops-opposition-to-sweden-and-finland-joining-nato-biden-approves-f-16-sales-to-turkey/

The UKR destroyed grains is a nice compliment on the mass insanity affecting the entire globe right now.

It appears the easily predicted failures of Cultural Marxism and the Cult of Gaia cannot be laid at those foundations when such a fat ripe target like Russia sits there to take the blame.  I am not disagreeing with Sundance at all, food shortages have already been blamed on Russia...when have Marxists ever stopped pushing all-in with their unsane BS?!  (crickets)  My point has always been that Russia has never positioned itself to refuse the bait tossed at them.  It goes back to all that Russian fatalism and bi-polar angst over being Western or Eastern and the fragile ego hard-wired into every generation since the Kievian Rus conquered the steppes.  I never bought into the Cult of Vlad being the master of 4D chess and all that strong man cult of personality bullsh*t.  Only the lazy and gullible buy into such dreck!  Vlad had an opportunity to forge something with America when Trump was in power...Ukraine, NATO, Iran, trade, banking...all of it could have been rolled up into a grand package...had Vlad lived up to his hype as Grandmaster of 4D chess.  Instead, he took a hardline, obsessed over agreements broken by one party and ignored breaches of others by himself, he willingly backed himself into a corner and took the Ukrainian bait instead of staying with economic coercion that was the hallmark of foreign policy regarding all of Europe from Day One.  He bears some, not all, but significant responsibility for missteps he has made.  As the saying goes, takes two to tango.  He chose to dance.

Now, sh*t is getting worse and the causes belli is written by his foes.  And make no mistake, they were our foes before his.  We got screwed over, a coup was thrown and nobody gave a f**k.  It would be nice if he and his countrymen, especially those in government and the military realize we are not the enemy...the DeepState assclowns and their puppets are.  I don't want to be slaughtered in their war, none of us do.

In slightly positive news, looks like Euro's are departing from a hardline stance on Konigsberg...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-quickly-backing-hardline-kaliningrad-standoff-russia-stations-new-missiles-baltic

But NATO expansion in Scandinavia is sealed, those 300k troops on the border are desired (more on that below) and NATO will also have to reinforce the Baltics and their new partners if they are serious about WWIII.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/empire-expand-nato-response-war-caused-nato-expansion



https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/29/deafening-drumbeats-for-war-biden-sends-more-u-s-troops-to-ukraine-border-101st-airborne-deployed-six-destroyers-to-mediterranean-f-35-squadrons-to-u-k/

The DeepState/Marxist lust for war at any cost is overriding any vestige of sanity left in these fools...the Russians are played into a trap where they are the villain...and the entire globe will suffer.

Doesn't get any suckier than this...   ::outrage::
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #875 on: June 30, 2022, 10:15:26 AM »
Lot of heavy-lift activity in US especially on East coast and in Europe...fighters on Moldova/Romania border and Belarus border...and interestingly Syria...

The cross-pond traffic is only going to rise in tempo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQyIqYUuEVE

Jeez, a report that DoD is so needy they are dropping HS diploma requirement...I missed that earlier...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/us-army-drops-high-school-diploma-requirement-military-struggles-challenging-recruiting-year-ever/

...not even the crap Carter years did that...and if forced to go to a draft...morale and strife in the ranks and nation is going to stink...this is a desperate move in a bad direction that Monkey is correct is a clear indication of an insane rush to war...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #876 on: July 01, 2022, 08:44:04 AM »
I'd say the Poles are smart to do this, regardless of the spin...the Euro's been perpetrating weaponized migration on their citizens and just a few nations, notably in the East like Hungary and Poland are tired of it...bad enough to get it from a sh*thole like Belarus...worse to get it from so-called allies...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poland-completes-belarus-border-wall-repel-middle-east-and-african-migrants
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #877 on: July 06, 2022, 11:07:32 AM »
Another front with a NATO ally...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/norway-russia-tensions-escalate-over-sanctions-impacting-arctic-islands

Well, the "Libertarian" posting this article is a self-admitted "anti-war" guy...so of the Code Pink wing of the PaulBot segment who have a hands off everybody approach...I reckon it will be good sport seeing this poor fellow twist in agony if it comes to blows...why can't the two just realize violence is not the answer?

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #878 on: July 07, 2022, 09:19:46 AM »
Lukashenko is a batshyt-crazy asshole...Poland isn't doing anything but making sure no more invaders enter their nation, period.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/belarus-threatens-strike-poland-instance-further-provocations

They got some guard towers along the wall they put up?  Poles should moon them, broadcast taunts...tell them to piss off.
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