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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1060 on: October 17, 2022, 08:52:33 AM »
In other news...

All of the Rus allies are telling any citizens left in the Ukraine area to GTFO...



https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/flash-china-foreign-ministry-tells-all-citizens-evacuate-ukraine-immdiately
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Looks like Putin to begin the wider ass-kicking...

And, about those interbred regions once trod by Alexander and his troops...

Two gunmen opened fire on a group of trainees at a Russian firing range on Saturday, killing 11 and wounding 15, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.

“During a firearms training session with individuals who voluntarily expressed a desire to participate in the special military operation (against Ukraine), the terrorists opened fire with small arms on the personnel of the unit,” the Defense Ministry said.

Russia said Saturday's two assailants were from an unspecified former Soviet republic, and died in an attack on recruits assembled for marksmanship training. The type of weapon training wasn't indicated.

According to Russia's Sota Vision, the incident took place in the town of Soloti, in Russia's Belgorod Oblast (province), which borders Ukraine.




https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massacre-russia-gunmen-attack-recruits-killing-11-and-wounding-15

Belgorod in Russian means white city...

And, the unholy Macron gives Putin the green light to toss nukes in Ukraine...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/macron-faces-backlash-after-saying-france-wont-respond-nuclear-strike-ukraine

...a stupendously idiotic thing to say to any potential foe even if it is your private personal opinion...it shows weakness but as I suspect these pieces of scat don't do crap like this by mistake...they are operating from the pan-globalist cabal's playbook...

https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=875,quality=100,fit=scale-
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Meanwhile, beware the kamikaze drones...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kiev-pummeled-kamikaze-drone-strikes

I think the be a kamikaze it has to be manned by a suicidal maniac...so no comparison to the Imperial Japanese...the the Nazi's and the buzz-bombs, sure...

Some peoples are just ignorant.

And, blast from the past is accurate...



...and some chuckleheads like to blurt - he lied!  Again, ignorance is on display.  That same pledge also included Russian agreement that with the reunification of Germany the reconstituted nation would be a NATO member, with troop restrictions in the former East German territory...no "expansion" occurred thereafter and nothing seriously discussed till into the 21st century...and what discussions did happen were originated from the leadership of former Soviet satellites...

IMO if not for Clinton directly involving the US into the former Yugoslavian mess...a detachment from Europe could have had a chance, albeit a small one...as it is things began to cement nations together and here we are anchored with these morons...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1061 on: October 17, 2022, 12:52:44 PM »
Methinks the Rus and Turks working together for the benefit of freezing European peasant asses isn't going to make Euro leaders and the Biden Junta very happy...



https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/gazprom-ceo-says-all-nord-stream-natgas-could-be-redirected-turkey

...but it will amp up the importance of the sea lanes on both ends of the Bosporus...

And NATO's Steadfast Noon nuclear exercises (sans real nukes we are told) in the North Sea commence and run through the end of the month...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-kicks-nuclear-war-games-monday

...and with the unholy Macron saying Russian nukes in Ukraine is okie dokie...and Russia pumping more weapons of war through Belarus...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/russia-planning-next-ukraine/

...that looks to be more top of the line goods...

...so, all signs point to increased festivities with concurrent increased chances of vaporization or radioactive death...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1062 on: October 17, 2022, 08:39:27 PM »

Mr Bald is very entertaining. I only recently discovered him. I may post more on him later.

His female companion is Alina, from Belarus. He recently married her despite being 16 years older.
She speaks 4 languages well, has a masters degree in structural engineering, and works for some international engineering firm.
In one episode she smuggles a starving Cuban street kitten from Cuba to Brussels, often in her bra.

He likes to talk and says too much. He made some remark about Putin and some petty court in the far east arrested him, threw him in prison, had a hearing, and kicked him out of Russia and banned him from returning. He was Russia's best salesman and they are idiots.


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1063 on: October 18, 2022, 08:40:28 AM »

Mr Bald is very entertaining. I only recently discovered him. I may post more on him later.

His female companion is Alina, from Belarus. He recently married her despite being 16 years older.
She speaks 4 languages well, has a masters degree in structural engineering, and works for some international engineering firm.
In one episode she smuggles a starving Cuban street kitten from Cuba to Brussels, often in her bra.

He likes to talk and says too much. He made some remark about Putin and some petty court in the far east arrested him, threw him in prison, had a hearing, and kicked him out of Russia and banned him from returning. He was Russia's best salesman and they are idiots.

She's got he real estate...   :D

He's a harmless clown...some folks take themselves too seriously...Russian's seem genetically incapable of managing humor and ego...

He's been all over the former Soviet Empire...haven't seen his stuff since before the Uke invasion...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1064 on: October 18, 2022, 09:11:26 AM »
On NS...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/first-images-blown-nord-stream-reveals-50-meter-missing-section-pipeline

...video shows it looks quite molested by something violent...

And the Russians and Belarussians doing exercises...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/belarus-announces-live-fire-drills-russia-amid-troop-surge

...last time this happened somebody got invaded...somebody might get re-invaded...

As for this...

"It seems Israel will supply weapons to the Kyiv regime. A very reckless move. It will destroy all diplomatic relations between our countries," Medvedev wrote on Telegram.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-warns-israel-weapons-transfers-ukraine-will-destroy-all-ties

Ha!  I call total BS on that!  The Rus are cooperating with the Turk's all the time...they just gave like $500M in support to Ukraine, probably be spent on ammo to snuff Rus troops...making patty-cake on Turk-Stream...and Turks are working with Israelis on a host of issues...

No, Medvedev is lying through his teeth...this isn't diplomatic rift level stuff on its own...they're butthurt every time their radical Muslim clients in Syria and Lebanon get their Iranian-financed Iranian-armed terrorist butts spanked...no, this is the Satanic Shiites in Tehran yanking on Rus balls and telling them to shun the Jews and join in killing them, or else.  Which is hilarious since what is the "or else"?  About all they have to nix is basing rights for them and their BRICs allies...but it appears the Rus are acting as instructed.

Well, this too is bullish for more war...

All is well...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1065 on: October 18, 2022, 11:16:45 AM »
On NS...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/first-images-blown-nord-stream-reveals-50-meter-missing-section-pipeline

...video shows it looks quite molested by something violent...

And the Russians and Belarussians doing exercises...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/belarus-announces-live-fire-drills-russia-amid-troop-surge

...last time this happened somebody got invaded...somebody might get re-invaded...

As for this...

"It seems Israel will supply weapons to the Kyiv regime. A very reckless move. It will destroy all diplomatic relations between our countries," Medvedev wrote on Telegram.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-warns-israel-weapons-transfers-ukraine-will-destroy-all-ties

Ha!  I call total BS on that!  The Rus are cooperating with the Turk's all the time...they just gave like $500M in support to Ukraine, probably be spent on ammo to snuff Rus troops...making patty-cake on Turk-Stream...and Turks are working with Israelis on a host of issues...

No, Medvedev is lying through his teeth...this isn't diplomatic rift level stuff on its own...they're butthurt every time their radical Muslim clients in Syria and Lebanon get their Iranian-financed Iranian-armed terrorist butts spanked...no, this is the Satanic Shiites in Tehran yanking on Rus balls and telling them to shun the Jews and join in killing them, or else.  Which is hilarious since what is the "or else"?  About all they have to nix is basing rights for them and their BRICs allies...but it appears the Rus are acting as instructed.

Well, this too is bullish for more war...

All is well...

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I never even try to figure out all the angles in the Middle East.
I assume that Israel is doing something devious in their own self interest.
I assume that the US is doing something devious that will harm everyone except maybe the arms makers and maybe some arch capitalists.
By the time Ukraine is destroyed who else will benefit? Certainly not Ukrainians.
At least the US in kinda honest. We say we are doing it to harm Russia.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1066 on: October 18, 2022, 12:22:49 PM »
Oh my, this is rich...JoeFraud regime is dusting off Trump's NOPEC nuclear option on the Saudi's?

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nopec-bill-would-mean-end-aramco-and-opec-we-know-them

Grassely attaching it to the next NADA authorization bill probably means its got a good chance...NADA should be nixed, but it's too popular among UniParty asshats...

In other news...the suffering for Ukrainians about to get more painful...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/one-third-ukraines-power-stations-destroyed-who-warns-brutal-winter-coming

...reckon more refugees will be heading to Poland...

...makes the mathematics of war simpler...fewer innocents about...means those in-theater are likely combatants/combatant supporters...I would expect the violence to increase.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1067 on: October 19, 2022, 09:33:05 AM »
We will see in the coming months as winter's cold embrace envelops Europe how interested citizens are in both continued warfare in Ukraine and in insane green dreams of an immediate transition away from oil, gas, coal and nuclear in favor of, well, whatever...and give up normal human food for bugs...or if they rise up in overwhelming numbers against their masters...

My current opinion of latter day humans being rather low...and even lower for the more emasculated Euro's...doesn't inspire much hope...but freezing, starving, sickness and dying...can be a strong impetus for change, history is full of examples...

Meanwhile, back in the insane clown posse world of totalitarian towers of tyranny...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/johnstone-profoundly-stupid-narrative-nuclear-brinkmanship-safety-and-de-escalation

...all the warmongering statists have to offer is conflated common sense realistic approaches to a peaceful resolution in Ukraine to being equal with caving into nuclear blackmail and the brainless knee-jerk condemnation of "Putin puppet" epithets being hurled indiscriminately like daggers...

I am no Putin lover, everybody here knows that...but it is also true that using the Western totalitarian logic, they expect Russia to capitulate to nuclear extortion by putting tactical nukes in Poland (which by the way I have no confirmation or denial of) or in nearby seas aboard naval vessels (a certainty)...so, by their logic the US is making nuclear war more likely...

So, using their BS, even an average person can see this for what it is, a stalemate...sane people are looking for de-escalation of hostilities all sides can agree to and an avoidance of a nuclear conflict...the lunatics want to go all the way to a full nuclear exchange to prove they cannot be threatened rather than find a sane off ramp to global annihilation...over what?  Ukraine?

Perhaps if they want to sell this idea better they identify what is so valuable there?  A vast treasure of the Great Khan?  The living finger of King Midas?

Again, being Devil's advocate...I see fault on all sides...and I do not see either side having innocent intentions or absent stains of blood...arguments for and against each other are obviously similar and intransigent...

Negotiation or annihilation...and so far both sides are favoring the latter almost exclusively...

PS - I smell BS...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kherson-civilians-evacuated-amid-ukraine-assault-putin-declares-martial-law-4

I think another tactical retreat is in play here like up in the NE earlier...suck 'em in and slaughter them with artillery, bombs and missiles...

The war goes on...

ETA - as do the same old games...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pair-russian-bombers-intercepted-norad-jets-alaska-defense-zone

Can't believe Bears are still flying...not militarily practical...slow, ridiculously easy to knock down...they are a recon and harassment instrument only...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kherson-civilians-evacuated-amid-ukraine-assault-putin-declares-martial-law-4

I thought we already knew this...but apparently jello-head JoeFraud and his handlers need reminding...not that they're too concerned about throwing nukes about...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1068 on: October 19, 2022, 06:13:53 PM »
I don't pay much attention to short term military results.
I believe civilians are being evacuated from Kherson region to protect them from upcoming action.

Germany knows who blew up the pipe but is hiding it from their citizens for national security.
Suppose they are protecting Russia? /s

All this shreaking about Russia hitting civilian infrastructure makes me shake my head.
For several reasons.
1. There were very few civilian deaths as the target was infrastructure.
2, Kiev has been shelling civilian residential areas on the Donbass for 8 years and the MSM does not cover it. That includes petal anti personnel mines to take off limbs dropped from rockets.
3. The US would take out the infrastructure the first day.
4. Much of the shreaking comes from the countries responsible for Dresden and the Tokyo firestorms.

In Tokyo we would first bomb to make splinters out of the houses. Then incendiaries to set the kindling ablaze.
The incendiaries were spaced close enough together to create a firestorm but not too close as that would be a waste as the firestorm could have been larger if further spaced.

https://southfront.org/kiev-forces-shelled-donetsk-with-incendiary-weapons/
Kiev Forces Shelled Donetsk With Incendiary Weapons

Also, if Russia is buying Iranian drones why not show one? Some crash or are shot down.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1069 on: October 20, 2022, 11:59:26 AM »
Pretty sure they explode either way Pat...not sure it matters what is shown/not shown...

Just enjoy the show...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-fighter-jet-released-missile-after-british-spy-plane-intercept

Oops.  Well, there's always next time...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1070 on: October 21, 2022, 09:20:42 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-speeds-ukraine-arms-transfers-prepare-winter-warfare

Seriously...this is breaching the totally batshyt effing insane barrier...

At a time when this illegitimate regimes absolute destruction of the domestic economy and energy sector...exacerbated by continued reckless wasteful spending, idiotic loan subsidizing et al...and drawing down the SPR and our military stores?

When the SHTF people are going to be justifiably pissed...and the only good thing I see is depleted stores means short civil wars...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1071 on: October 21, 2022, 12:19:12 PM »

A quick summary of some some of what has happened to journalists who reported the wrong facts from Ukraine or put a mic in front of the wrong locals.

I linked to the funny part. Some French TV reporter had her feed cut after she reported wrong. :lolh: Another French journalist just lost her university job of 15 years after she had reported from the Donbass over the years.
https://youtu.be/7BVi4lxf5cM?t=374
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1072 on: October 21, 2022, 12:28:15 PM »

The MSM never ceases to amaze me in this war.
Kiev has been shelling residential civilian areas in the eastern Donbass for 8 years. Most of the MSM will not report on this or even blames the Russians.

Some of the MSM blames the Russians for blowing up their own pipelines.

Some of the MSM blames Russia for shelling itself at the Russian held nuclear plant.

I had on Alexander of Duran. He said that Russia had stopped running trains over some dam. It was reported that the dam locks were under attack by floating mines/whatever to flood the surrounding area. I read differing accounts on how much damage this would cause.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15576
Five Ukrainian rocket attacks on the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station took place on October 20, authorities said.

They noted that in the event of a dam breakthrough, water supply to Crimea through the North Crimean Canal would become impossible.

THIS SIMULATION OF WHAT A DAM COLLAPSE WOULD MEAN IS FROM A 2004 NEWSPAPER ARTICLE.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15569
??🇷🇺🇺🇦🌊 Map of Flooding in #Kherson Oblast in the Event of a Dambreach at the Kakhovka HPP??

According to the article "Not ready for local apocalypse" in the newspaper "Hryvna" ¹ 12 dated March 18, 2004 and to recent reports, the AFU are preparing to shell the #Kakhovskaya HPP, which will inevitably lead to a breach of the dam. Thanks to Ensign Ptichkin (http://t.me/rusfleet) for his help with the map.

Flooding of Kherson region in case of a break of the Kakhovskaya HPP dam

- Time from breach to flooding of Kherson region - 2 hours
- Time of continuous rise of the water level - 14 hours
- Wave speed - 25 km/h
- Wave height - up to 5 m
- Duration of flooding - 72 hours

t.me/sitreports /@rusfleet/ t.me/zastavnyii/1948 /

Better simulations
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11106
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11107



So then I read this.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15616
??🇺🇦🏴?? Zelensky announces bombing of Kakhovskaya HPP dam and flooding of Kherson region: Kiev starts preparing info-field, blaming Russia
"We have information that Russian terrorists have mined the dam and units of the Kakhovskaya HPP. This is one of the major energy facilities. The dam of this hydropower plant holds about 18m cu.m. of water. If Russian terrorists blow up this dam, about 80 settlements will be flooded, including Kherson.
??We are witnessing a standard move - to accuse the enemy in advance and then write off their crime on it.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15582
We read in the Kherson Herald:

Ukraine plans sabotage at the gateway of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station using underwater drones

Ukrainian servicemen from the Separate Special Purpose Center of the Naval Forces (Ochakiv) [actually - the Center of the SSO "South", formerly the 73rd Marine Special Operations Center] completed a three-month course in the UK.

The training was based on the control of unmanned underwater vehicles and sabotage. [Two Majors even have a video]

From the statements of officials of the British Ministry of Defense, it is known that six underwater drones will be transferred to Ukraine. Against the background of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Krivoy Rog direction, Kyiv has the opportunity to use British underwater unmanned vehicles in the waters in the south of the Kakhovka reservoir.

Kherson Vestnik does not rule out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are planning to use British drones at the gateway of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. The sabotage will lead to the flooding of the coastal settlements controlled by Russia at the mouth of the Dnieper.

Kherson Vestnik that drones are good, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine have few expensive missiles in Hymars, we consider it untenable.

-Two majors

Alleged video at link
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/10908


Also
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15690
The Foreign Minister of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, was fooled by a fake US Ambassador some clever Russians created.
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He revealed that Ukraine was behind several terrorist attacks including the Crimean bridge attack (that they publicly denied) and that they have to "force" the EU because of “sanctions fatigue” (meaning orchestrate catastrophy for more money).

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1073 on: October 21, 2022, 12:43:21 PM »


 wonder what the results were before the invasion.
This recent survery guages the hostility in Ukraine towards various groups.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/15776
**KMIS measured the level of xenophobia in Ukraine**

The survey was conducted in accordance with the Bogardus scale. For each ethnic group on the list, respondents answered how closely would be willing to associate with representatives of that group. There were seven options in total: from "as members of one’s  family" (at the highest) to "would not let them enter Ukraine" (at the lowest).

With respect to Russians living in Russia, the average score was 6.39 (between "ready to admit as guests of Ukraine" and "would not let them go to Ukraine").
As regards Belarusians living in Belarus—5.34 (between "ready to admit as residents of Ukraine" and "ready to admit as guests of Ukraine").

As this is an average score, the number of responses "would not let them go to Ukraine" must have been very high. But this is not the crux of the issue. After all, in the current situation, it is an understandable reaction. 

The problem is that the average score for Russians living in Ukraine is also 5.03. In other words, most survey respondents are not willing to view Ukrainian citizens who identify as Russian even as "residents of Ukraine", let alone "as colleagues at work" (4), "as neighbours" (3), or "as close friends".

Poles get the score of 2.95, Americans - 3.72, Africans - 4.84, and Roma - 5.08.

Thus, according to the survey, the Ukrainians view the Roma and citizens of Ukraine who self-identify as Russians aa the most undesirable groups among those who now live in Ukraine.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1074 on: October 21, 2022, 12:57:36 PM »
Maybe these are to be used against some dam locks.

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11004
?? According to information received from local residents, the YARM sea mines are being transported to the village of Gavrilovka in the Kherson region. According to available data, it is known that the APU can use them as floating mines to descend the Kakhovsky reservoir in the direction of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station in order to undermine the dam and then flood the channel in the direction of Kherson. This will allow the AFU to wash away all pontoon crossings available to the Russian military, disrupt logistics and thereby isolate the Russian grouping of troops from supplies by disrupting transport links with the territory of the Russian Federation.

This will also lead to the creation of the deepest food crisis in the territory of the right-bank Kherson region due to the lack of supplies of food, medicines and fuel and lubricants.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1075 on: October 21, 2022, 04:55:10 PM »
When things get too serious I watch more of Bald and Bankrupt.

I know he was banned from Russia, maybe also Ukraine and Belarus. he talks a lot which is endearing but can get him in trouble.

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« Reply #1076 on: October 22, 2022, 10:31:18 AM »


I just found this. I have come across things from western/northern parts of Ukraine that make me feel kinda sick. I also listen carefully to what people say from all sides and places of this conflict. Some people say it is all OK because Russia invaded but much of this precedes any invasion.

These people have a vile ideology I am free to dislike.
Others are free to like it and make excuses.
Jacob Drezin was born in Russia and immigrated to the US at some point.
His family was Russian Jews as I recall. I have no idea if they were observant.
So you will have to 'forgive' him if he does not like NAZIs.


https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/10/21/suitcase-with-no-handle/
 Suitcase With No Handle

Published by dreizinreport on October 21, 2022
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You ain’t seen nothin’, until you’ve seen the below video.

I’ve sat on this for a long time.

This is from an elite Kiev nightclub, 2014, shortly after the coup, revolution, or whatever you want to call it.

They are serving a cake with a Russian flag and a realistic, live-size “Russian infant”, lying on its back atop the flag.

The server cuts the baby from groin to head.  People love it.

One girl asks if the diaper is edible, another says she wants the tummy.

One guy jokes, “Putin, help!” while another shouts pleadingly, “Ruuuussia, Ruuuuussia!!!“…..

…..indicating the baby is the people of the Donbass (Donetsk and Lugansk) and other Russians or pro-Russians in southeast Ukraine, who were hoping for the Russian army to move in at that time.

There’s more than just a few people here, it’s packed.

Of course, like everyone in Kiev (back then, anyway), they’re all speaking Russian.

Millions of idiots say Putin is Hitler—no, this is Hitler.

These are literal “supremacists”… not of the fake alleged supremacist, Trumper variety.

The country should have been peacefully split in 2014.

Well, it’s being split now, better late than never.

Incidentally, you know these could be Democrats, eating a Republican.

There’s more than one country that could be peacefully split… or peacefully decentralized, whatever.

I’d never say the USA needs to go. We just need to respect differences, and not force every damn thing on fellow citizens in other jurisdictions, you know?

How do we get there?


[video link here]
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1077 on: October 22, 2022, 10:58:29 AM »


Another day, more MSM ignoring what happens in the Ukraine war that does not fit their narrative.
https://youtu.be/XPCJky8YBSk
 Ukraine Shells School, Church, Kindergarten & Cultural center Russia & the Western Media Ignores It
25,187 views  Oct 22, 2022  There has historic meeting was taking place between the Russian and US defense ministers, Russia’s Sergei Shoigu and the United State's Lloyd Austin, to discuss Ukraine. At almost the same time as that meeting Ukraine launched a major attack on the center of a small border village in Russia, Murom Belgorod Region Russia, directly hitting a school, church, kindergarten and cultural center. Of course this will never be shown in the western main stream media because they will only show what benefits Ukraine.  In this report I am on the ground at the site of the attacks showing you what the western mainstream media will not
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1078 on: October 24, 2022, 09:11:46 AM »
Having been oppressed and persecuted by Russians for nearly 80 years I can understand anti-Russian animosity...

Currently we are being directly persecuted by DemoCommies and further abused by Quisling Cucks...and we are merely in the preliminary phase of hostilities...and the angst is increasing...we have not yet experienced the full measure the former Soviet occupied states experiences...what oh what does the future hold...?

In the end, doesn't matter...

ALL trends remain firmly in the continued/expanded hostility direction...

https://conservativeplaylist.com/2022/10/24/5-signs-that-the-war-between-russia-and-nato-is-about-to-spiral-out-of-control/

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-new-strike-leaves-15-million-ukrainians-without-power-phased-blackouts-kiev

LOL, dirty bomb warning could be a prediction as well as a warning, and perpetrated for either's benefit...but at it's heart is war fever both suffer from...

Snyder in the first link finally gets to the real core of this sh*tshow - Both sides just continue to escalate matters, and it is just a matter of time before someone pushes things a little bit too far. Even now, it is really difficult to see a peaceful way out of this mess.

In WWI both Allies and Axis thought the other was bluffing because doing what they threatened was "madness"....well, madness won.  In WWII hostilities broke out because the Europeans wanted to humiliate and neuter Germany following WWI...and foolish leaders thought they could negotiate with a liar and madman...and in Asia another democrat with delusions of grandeur thought an Imperial and militaristic Japan could be bullied and cajoled into peace when an active containment would have been a more prudent course...

Here we are again, with opponents locked into their positions, unable and unwilling to yield a millimeter...with escalating rhetoric and actions...

Yeah...everything is going to be fine...

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PS - This will help...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/biden-inches-closer-wwiii-us-troops-ukraine-romania-border-combat-deployment-prepare-invade-fight-russian-forces-ukraine/

...and by "help" I mean make war more likely...

This, is not what should have led to the Screaming Eagles to be deployed.

But neither should have The Wagner Group, the new incantation of the Blackwater boys, the Iranians...yadda yadda yadda...

Whatever, they'll be more, not less...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1079 on: October 24, 2022, 05:31:05 PM »
I had the talking heads on in background.

I think the dirty bomb was a real plot picked up on by the Russians, planned by Kiev.
That is the reason for all the excited communications. Between Russia military and others.
I think the US DOD told Kiev to not even think of doing that then went public and said the Russians were nuts for even imagining such a thing.   Just their conclusion.

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“Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.

? Hermann Goering, Germany Reborn

Clare Daly EU MEP from Ireland.
https://youtu.be/QsDttNAUMgM?t=47
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