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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1340 on: March 10, 2023, 08:45:48 AM »
After the ridiculous NYT story of how some Ukrainian partisans rented a Polish yacht and blew up the NS pipeline, Alex Christofrou has a new theory on who blew it up. Gilligan, the skipper, the millionaire and his wife, the movie star, and Mary Anne.

Back in the day...I would do whatever Mary Anne wanted to be done.   :D


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1341 on: March 10, 2023, 08:48:30 AM »
See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/one-day-our-luck-will-run-out-another-near-miss-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant

IMO it is a matter of when not if a radioactive disaster happens there.

Since Russia controls it...will they be accountable or is the plan to blame Western Devils no matter what?  I think I know the answer to this already...

ETA - https://www.zerohedge.com/military/six-hypersonic-missiles-were-used-latest-russian-attack-ukraine-confirms

Doesn't look all that fast to me.

Also looks like footage I posted a long time ago.

I call propaganda!

PS - This is what "fast" looks like - https://twitter.com/i/status/1633513176217133071
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1342 on: March 10, 2023, 04:40:58 PM »
See this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/one-day-our-luck-will-run-out-another-near-miss-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant

IMO it is a matter of when not if a radioactive disaster happens there.

Since Russia controls it...will they be accountable or is the plan to blame Western Devils no matter what?  I think I know the answer to this already...

ETA - https://www.zerohedge.com/military/six-hypersonic-missiles-were-used-latest-russian-attack-ukraine-confirms

Doesn't look all that fast to me.

Also looks like footage I posted a long time ago.

I call propaganda!

PS - This is what "fast" looks like - https://twitter.com/i/status/1633513176217133071

I read the article. So what happened? What caused this? Very crappy reporting.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1343 on: March 10, 2023, 05:19:58 PM »

From imperfect memory.
There is a region in northern Georgia full of ethnic Russians called South Ossetia, on the Russian southern border.
After some troubles of some sort there were Russian peacekeeping troops to protect the locals?  Similar to the UN peacekeepers in Kosovo to keep the Serbs from killing the Muslims.

The US Marines armed and trained the Georgian army very well according to Russian military.
The Georgian president decided it would be a good idea to attack South Ossetia and did, with tanks etc. Georgian soldiers made videos of their invasion and posted them.

Russia sent in troops from Russia and drove out the Georgian troops. The western media said Russia started it.  It did not end well for the Georgians who got rid of the president as a recall. I think he works for a neocon think tank in US.

BUT the Russians got their butts kicked by the US trained Georgians and driving them out was hard. So they revamped their military as a result, Ritter said.

Fast forward. Georgia was to pass a billing requiring foreign agent registration similar to US FARA.
IMO the demonstrators are paid by the US govt as they often do. Regardless of FARA they want regime change. Likely for a regime that will open a second front on Russia. Some were chanting the name of the town in South Ossetia, indicating they want another invasion. Since the first one and went so well and the war is doing so much good for Ukraine. /s


https://youtu.be/jptGQjcSH6w?t=754

Link to protest video
https://twitter.com/BrianJBerletic/status/1633796439993380869
Brian Berletic
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🇬🇪🇺🇸 NEW VIDEO: Georgia Protests: US Seeks to Open 2nd Front Against Russia

??Protests in Georgia consist of US-backed opposition (literally waving US/EU flags) blocking a bill to increase transparency & reduce foreign interference;

https://youtu.be/csSeU30VpgQ
Georgia Protests: US Seeks to Open 2nd Front Against Russia

https://youtu.be/Ny3YvOKQe3c
 Georgian government withdraws controversial "foreign agents' bill after massive protests
CBS News

In the CBS clip above they compare it to some Russian law but not US FARA. The EU says it is contrary to EU values??????? This law would have exposed foreign funding of organizations. This is drivel.

On a lighter note, I love this music video featuring the Georgian Ballet. The video is from two other movies, mixed and synced to the song Rasputin. Pretty girls.
https://youtu.be/FS-siemT6eQ
Boney M - Rasputin 2017 Blue Remix
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1344 on: March 12, 2023, 11:27:00 AM »
As things get hotter...STS targets will become too tempting to avoid...

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russia-uses-ship-ship-transfers-boost-diesel-exports-saudi-arabia

...not advocating, just sayin' don't be surprised...

JDAM-ER's in Ukraine...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-supplied-winged-smart-bombs-are-now-operational-ukraine

...though noting capable of delivering them as yet...

...so, pricey paper-weights for the moment...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1345 on: March 12, 2023, 12:26:08 PM »
Attacking ships in international waters might a little bit too much. But the US run by psychopaths and sociopaths.
BTW China is developing the overland part of belt and road to avoid the US blocking trade through the straights near Malaysia/Indonesia.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1346 on: March 12, 2023, 12:55:18 PM »

https://youtu.be/2z30mgCsUFg
 Cartoon about Zelensky's regime/??????? ? ?????? ??????????
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The media write that French animators have launched a new animated series Ukraine. Inc, in which the president of "square" Vladimir Zelensky became the main character. The cartoon reflects the grim realities of the political regime in Ukraine. Zelensky, in order to increase his own rating and increase financial capital, as shown in the cartoon (in episode 1), throws his people into a meat grinder. Everyone is sent for slaughter without exception: men, women, children and the elderly.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1347 on: March 12, 2023, 02:48:55 PM »
Attacking ships in international waters might a little bit too much. But the US run by psychopaths and sociopaths.
BTW China is developing the overland part of belt and road to avoid the US blocking trade through the straights near Malaysia/Indonesia.

Nothing is too much in a widening war, the overland routes will eventually be targeted for aerial actions.

Devils everywhere and all want blood.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1348 on: March 12, 2023, 02:50:34 PM »

https://youtu.be/2z30mgCsUFg
 Cartoon about Zelensky's regime/??????? ? ?????? ??????????
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The media write that French animators have launched a new animated series Ukraine. Inc, in which the president of "square" Vladimir Zelensky became the main character. The cartoon reflects the grim realities of the political regime in Ukraine. Zelensky, in order to increase his own rating and increase financial capital, as shown in the cartoon (in episode 1), throws his people into a meat grinder. Everyone is sent for slaughter without exception: men, women, children and the elderly.

Yah, very clever...too bad the meat grinder is non-discriminatory...all will be grist.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1349 on: March 12, 2023, 04:43:51 PM »

I pay no attention the "game changer" weapons supplied to Kiev. Most change little.
But one caught my attention. JDAM strap on kits only cost $25K each. They strap on wings and guidance control to dumb bombs, which are much heavier than the rocket warheads used. Travel maybe 80 km at most?

You have to get them in the air with a plane but can be a long distance from Russia air defense.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1350 on: March 12, 2023, 10:12:17 PM »

US B52  takes a practice cruise missile attack on St. Petersburg.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1351 on: March 13, 2023, 08:58:12 AM »
Sure.  There are reportedly 1M Russians troops in Belarus near the Polish border.  Any hokey-pokey...even just a toe and festivities could pop all along the map.

sh*t happens.

And there's been bomber runs in the far East too.

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1352 on: March 13, 2023, 06:58:59 PM »
Ritter pounds the table over Georgia for personal reasons.

Ritter mentions demonstrators in Rustaveli Plaza in Tbilisi Georgia shouting "Sokhumi" that is in an apparently autonomous region that used to be part of Georgia?, meaning they want to take it back? At first Ritter tells the story of his Georgian father in law who fought against the Abkhas apparently. Ritter rants and tells a story about his father in law who held a bridge at Sohkumi so  civilians could flee then over the mountains E through the Kodori Gorge where they were robbed and shot at by Abkha snipers. He could not carry all the still live babies in the snow.


18 min https://youtu.be/rJdDyp0RAEc?t=1087
39 min Then Ritter goes into how and why the US is trying to destabilize Georgia like they did in Ukraine. That is the good part. The US is trying to start a civil war? Another coup?  Ritter gets real upset at what the US is trying to do.
https://youtu.be/rJdDyp0RAEc?t=2316

Georgian Civil War 1992 involving the Abkhazians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Abkhazia_(1992%E2%80%931993)

Map of Abkhazi.



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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1353 on: March 14, 2023, 06:38:56 AM »
I kinda sorted out what Ritter was talking about, just based on what he said which is likely influenced by his Georgian wife and father in law.

Georgians and Abkhas lived in this region of Georgia Abkhazia. Some Abkhas did something that should have been responded to with appropriate force. Instead they grossly over reacted then the Abkhas fought back with unexpected success. The Georgians who, in his opinion started this, fled. Abkhas drove Georgians out. Russians apparently protected the Abkhas maybe to this day. Alleged mass killings on both sides.

Now US wants to do regime change in Georgia and does not want to be exposed through new FARA laws. The rent a mob was chanting Sokhumi, the birthplace of Ritter's wife, indicating they want to retake control of the now semi independent region of Georgia, which would cause a civil war. A mini replay of Ukraine is what the US wants. IMO and his father in law just hate the idea of a civil war given their history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhazians
After the Russian Revolution of 1917, Abkhazia was a part of the Democratic Republic of Georgia, but was conquered by the Red Army in 1921 and eventually entered the Soviet Union as a Soviet Socialist Republic associated with the Georgian SSR. The status of Abkhazia was downgraded in 1931 when it became an Autonomous SSR within the Georgian SSR. Under Joseph Stalin, a forcible collectivization was introduced and the native communist elite purged. The influx of Armenians, Russians and Georgians into the growing agricultural and tourism sectors was also encouraged, and Abkhaz schools were briefly closed. By 1989, the number of Abkhaz was about 93,000 (18% of the population of the autonomous republic), while the Georgian population numbered 240,000 (45%). The number of Armenians (15% of the entire population) and Russians (14%) grew substantially as well.[citation needed]

The 1992–1993 War in Abkhazia followed by the ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia left the Abkhaz an ethnic plurality of ca. 45%, with Russians, Armenians, Georgians, Greeks, and Jews comprising most of the remainder of the population of Abkhazia.


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1354 on: March 14, 2023, 06:46:06 AM »


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Abkhazia_(1998)
The War in Abkhazia in 1998 took place in the Gali district of Abkhazia, after ethnic Georgians launched an insurgency against the Abkhazian separatist government.
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In the eighteen months prior to the war, Georgian paramilitary forces systematically attacked both Russian peacekeeping troops and the Abkhazian military.[7]

In the beginning of May, 300 fighters from the Georgian paramilitary White Legion crossed into Abkhazia, whereupon the Abkhazian government placed its military on combat alert.[8]
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1355 on: March 14, 2023, 09:36:04 AM »
If Russians captured it once they own it, precedent set...especially is Russian-speakers are anywhere to be found.

Truly, I give not one frack about Georgia or Abkhaz or Russia or any of them..

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« Reply #1356 on: March 14, 2023, 11:43:19 AM »


I think Abkhaz speak Abkhaz  which is a slavic language related to Russian. Stalin was the Georgia. I think Ritter is upset that the US wants to destroy Georgia with a civil war. I don't think anyone wore white hats in the recent couple civil wars.

I think I heard that the US pumps $20M into Georgia. If focused on 5% of pop of their capital city that is $300 per person.
I wonder who provided all the signs for their protests? They sure happen to have lots of EU flags and they are not an EU member.  Why would a protester object to FARA?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1357 on: March 14, 2023, 02:11:40 PM »
Wondering when the Reaper flights over international waters of the Black Sea would be challenged...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-says-reaper-drone-crashes-into-black-sea-after-russian-intercept-2023-03-14/

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2023/mar/14/ukraine-war-russian-jet-collides-with-us-drone-over-black-sea-saysus-military-2556050.html

Little more in the Indian link.

Next, Reaper takes out next Rus plane approaching it in an aggressive posture...then things get sporty...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1358 on: March 14, 2023, 05:05:00 PM »
Wondering when the Reaper flights over international waters of the Black Sea would be challenged...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-says-reaper-drone-crashes-into-black-sea-after-russian-intercept-2023-03-14/

https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2023/mar/14/ukraine-war-russian-jet-collides-with-us-drone-over-black-sea-saysus-military-2556050.html

Little more in the Indian link.

Next, Reaper takes out next Rus plane approaching it in an aggressive posture...then things get sporty...

It dumped fuel in front of the drone. What was the tech reason for doing that?

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1359 on: March 14, 2023, 06:16:49 PM »
over whelmed the intake of the drone, effectively killing its engine.
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