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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1560 on: June 13, 2023, 12:31:54 PM »
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1561 on: June 13, 2023, 04:56:49 PM »

I had this on earlier. REAL LONG 3:15:00. Stopped. Still not done. The last 30 min is questions. Maybe his best on the Ukr war. he does 90% of the talking they mostly ask questions. I did not now all his experiences. He seems to know details on lots of weapons. He said it took his marines 2 1/2 years to train to proficiency in some area. Us gave Ukr 1 month training in this. He went into details on the Ukr tactics from NATO in the current counter-offensive.

He said he spent months with computer based simulations planning part of the first gulf war and the US marines got hurt bad until he tweaked things. He was dragged out of the amphibious warfare unit and into high level planning. In reality the marines did better than expected and better than the army. I think the army generals wanted the marines to do something stupid and they refused and did things their way. Anyway, he describes how the Ukr counter attack is flawed and what he would do in their place.

He goes into the different tanks etc. Lots of details. We sent Strykers. He said they require lots of training just to use the automatic suspension system. If not done well, they shred the tires. Will the Ukr troops be that well trained? Even US army shredded their tires. He said the US towed lots of equipment toward Baghdad because they broke. Luckily there was no attack on them doing that.

He went on a one month visit to Russia recently with his daughter, in part pushing his recent book. Lots of observations. The good economy and construction was a shock. US sanctions accidentally helped the Russian economy. In part by keeping capital inside Russia.

He predicts most fighting ends by end of summer if Ukr keeps sending their troops to be killed in the counter-offensive. but he heard a possible political change from a Russian. Zelensky loses election in Mar 2024????

https://youtu.be/GBZF9LCTyqY

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1562 on: June 14, 2023, 03:24:01 PM »


He talks about air defense exercise then NATO then about the patriot system at 13:30 where he tears into it and gives its history and how it failed in the past and in Ukraine
He calls the patriot system US propaganda. The purpose is to enrich the defense contractors. Interesting history.

He says medals were issued for the gulf war patriot troops for shooting down scuds but there were no scuds. Then in Rihad, the missiles fell apart in mid air and parts fell to ground, because Iraq had elongated the scuds making them unstable. The US claimed they had shot them down. Patriots did more damage to Rihad and Tel Aviv than the scuds.

Using them in manual mode works better but that takes lots of training.

https://youtu.be/gsHbXl2mHlE?t=805
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1563 on: June 16, 2023, 08:18:58 AM »
Nukes anywhere near the lunatic Lukashenko IMO is batshyt crazy...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/belarus-has-begun-taking-delivery-powerful-russian-nukes

...I'm sure people thinking otherwise will cling bitterly to stupidity as they are vaporized or riddled with radiation...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1564 on: June 16, 2023, 02:55:20 PM »
Well, things are spinning wildly out of control now...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/senior-russian-official-putin-has-green-light-sever-undersea-commo-cables

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/proposed-bill-give-russian-central-bank-assets-ukraine

...both sides are totally committed to upping the stupidity...and I don't see anybody dialing back...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1565 on: June 16, 2023, 04:31:42 PM »
Lukashenko will have no control over nukes. Russia will. I heard the nukes were to prevent regime change in Belarus but i do not understand the logic. The US recently tried regime change in Belarus and failed, a couple years ago.

 Someone said they are bargaining chips to trade against moving nukes away from Poland and maybe Hungry or Bulgaria. I heard the USSR had intermediate range nukes in their west so the US put Pershings in then used them as chips and both were removed????

Severing undersea cables was mentioned by analysts days after the NS pipelines were blown. The US should not have crossed that line for our own sake.

I image Ukraine will send the cash back to the US to pay back all the loans. Remember that an inspector general for Ukraine was ruled out.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1566 on: June 16, 2023, 04:45:03 PM »

I heard some more on blown dam and future events. With the dam blown, river or reservoir is now mud flats that will dry up. So crossing will be easier for Kiev to take the nuke plant at Zap. BUT Russia could blow a dam further up and turn it back into mud.  When Russia invaded,  Kiev blew a dam?

Kiev might want to create a nuke disaster to bring in NATO "peace keepers."
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1567 on: June 21, 2023, 10:17:07 AM »
Nobody gives a dam(n)... 

Literally...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/whoops-pentagon-accounting-error-means-extra-62-billion-ukraine

Obvious signs of rampant corruption.

And more evidence of not giving a damn...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1568 on: June 22, 2023, 08:19:21 AM »
Ahh yes...war porn...courtesy of Russian Propagandist Romanov...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-russians-use-drone-tank-loaded-explosives-destroy-ukrainian-front-line

I tell ya...just more evidence of poor leadership and poor training...

One lone tank ought to provoke a common sense question...and the answers are mostly negative - trojan horse, diversion...

How about hitting it closer to their lines than yours?  How about some battlefield intelligence that is worth a damn?

To be fair, this is one little section of a vast front...what else is going good/bad for all sides of the front?  There is no unbiased unskewed information out there...just a general hunch the Russians are controlling things and the Ukes are still trying to fight...beyond that is speculation with momentary bouts of interesting video clips...

This meat-grinder could go on for years sans any impetus to expand...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1569 on: June 22, 2023, 04:06:52 PM »
I imagine that shock wave would kill anyone close. I would be surprised if many Ukrainians were that close. Hard on wildlife though.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1570 on: June 23, 2023, 09:41:20 AM »
* Peace talks could resume and the Istanbul draft treaty be revived if the US cuts off Kiev’s arms supply.

Yeah, keep dreaming...the DS and its puppets will plunge the Earth in flames first...

* Russia isn’t contemplating a nuclear first strike and will only use these weapons in self-defense.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-says-political-solution-still-possible

Yeah, OK Mr. Korybko...apparently you missed this news -

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/half-russias-strategic-missile-units-have-been-rearmed-hypersonics-putin

So, if half of their strategic missiles are hypersonic...how can they claim to promise not to be the first to strike?  The very nature of hypersonic warheads is to hit your enemy faster than they can hit you - the very definition of a first-strike weapon.

See, when people talk one way...act another...you have to plan an the act and ignore the words.  As soon as those hypersonic's launch...perceived recipients will be unleashing their arsenals while they can...

Brilliant!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1571 on: June 23, 2023, 03:31:47 PM »
* Peace talks could resume and the Istanbul draft treaty be revived if the US cuts off Kiev’s arms supply.

Yeah, keep dreaming...the DS and its puppets will plunge the Earth in flames first...

* Russia isn’t contemplating a nuclear first strike and will only use these weapons in self-defense.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-says-political-solution-still-possible

Yeah, OK Mr. Korybko...apparently you missed this news -

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/half-russias-strategic-missile-units-have-been-rearmed-hypersonics-putin

So, if half of their strategic missiles are hypersonic...how can they claim to promise not to be the first to strike?  The very nature of hypersonic warheads is to hit your enemy faster than they can hit you - the very definition of a first-strike weapon.

See, when people talk one way...act another...you have to plan an the act and ignore the words.  As soon as those hypersonic's launch...perceived recipients will be unleashing their arsenals while they can...

Brilliant!

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The official Russian nuke doctrine is no first use plus some language about maybe when there is existential imminent threat to Russia survival. Official US doctrine changed under Biden. I heard some analyst quote some official maybe under Obama saying that we want  the Russians and Chinese to wake up every day not knowing if we were to nuke them.

I do not know all the arms treaties the US backed out of. Maybe that was the right thing to do, or not. I think the intermediate nuclear forces treaty was a good idea. It increased the flight time for nukes and gave people more time to think. There have been some false alarms and close calls.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1572 on: June 24, 2023, 01:18:19 PM »
No increased flight time for hypersonic... they're going the other way...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1573 on: June 24, 2023, 01:26:11 PM »
Putin pissed off his Nazi Wagner Group thugs and they started matching on Moscow!   ::hysterical::

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-reassures-allies-phone-calls-erdogan-expresses-full-support-against-rebellion

Medvedev says shelter-in-place...   ::hysterical::

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/medvedev-urges-population-rally-around-putin-moscow-mayor-urges-residents-stay-inside

Lukashenko brokers a halt to the march as they negotiate Wagner's demands..

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-blasts-wagner-treason-betrayal-clashes-erupt-southern-russia

...I guess he speaks Nazi...  ::hysterical::

All is well in Mother Russia...

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Americans!

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1574 on: June 24, 2023, 01:51:42 PM »

Wagner got more money and called off their fake coup.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1575 on: June 26, 2023, 08:28:32 AM »
How fake is it if the capture HQ's like in Rostov where they got the Southern Military District & Ministry of Internal Affairs?

Otherwise...it would have to be all a staged event between Putin and Wagner and Lukashenko...

This guy some may recognize...former CIA guy now doing some work for Skinwalker Ranch...

https://youtu.be/OvXguRJb_ro

...makes sense to me, I think Putin et al always had a Jones for capturing Kyiv...and a head-fake redeployment for a thrust from Belarus in the North is one of the most logical things I've heard in quite a while...

So, the hydra-headed beast of Russia, Belarus & Wagner are about to deliver the final blow, eh?

The funniest part of all this is the lemmings who thought (and still are thinking) the idiots ruining this country and burning billions in Ukraine in total futility are behind the attempted coup!   ::hysterical::

Even the imbeciles at the CIA are bragging about knowing all about it and are happy to be duped into the coup-think.  It doesn't get any more  redonkulous than this...

Not going to stop me from having fun with it though...what else can I do?  Eff'n clownworld, dontchyaknow?





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ETA - Looks even better in visual form...

https://twitter.com/Omani1love/status/1672953234389078016

...y'all just got flanked.

Z & CIA - https://youtu.be/hqFRzeGYzmk


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1576 on: June 26, 2023, 02:01:12 PM »
Whoa!  I thought that Escobar joker was the biggest Putin fan-boy on the planet who would do anything for his One True God...but here comes Luongo...

In my worldview MI6 and the British Defense Ministry spend all day, everyday coming up with a new way to justify a wider conflict between NATO and Russia. The destruction and balkanization of Russia has, after all, been their raison d’etre for more than 300 years.

...and the Tyler's at ZH (long-time Russophiles) put in bold the first sentence not the second sentence.  The first is well, duh, obvious.  The second illustrates a degree of butthurt ego normally reserved for natural-born Russians...and especially the high-ranking Caucasian caste...

300 years you imperialists have wanted to murder us all!   ::hysterical::

Under the bed - neocons!   ::laughonfloor::

If CIA money went to Prigozhin it is the biggest blunder in the history of bribery...and go towards toys with which to slay any perceived neocon fodder...

There are many in Russia who are angry with Putin for not punching back.

Aye, here's the red meat to Rus warmongers...

Let us pretend a ratcheted-up violence to appease the hardliners is in no way giving NATO and their neocon boogeymen exactly what they want to expand things...with the added overplayed butthurt of 300 years of oppression and thinking the bleating "you started it" will comfort the innocent millions slaughtered in the expanded carnage...

Brilliant!

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And thanks Tommy for the nukes in Belarus reminder...very comforting...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/luongo-was-prigozhins-rebellion-live-or-memorex

Maybe Escobar has a spare bib for all that special sauce...

 ::)

Benji here takes a more casual approach to the whole story...Putin duped by Shoigu et al...Prigozhin merely seeking to restore sanity and glory for Mother Russia...these things are normal in Russia...gosh I dunno what's going on?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/when-tail-wagners-dog

Seem too open to independent thought to be trusted...probably get labeled a neocon lapdog...

Swamp-rat Blinken tries to turn this into another fund-raiser for the glorious Ukrainian DeepState cause...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/blinken-hints-more-russia-unrest-come-we-havent-seen-last-act

Statement of the Russian Patriot hailed by the people...FWIW...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/prigozhin-remains-defiant-first-audio-message-explaining-mutiny

All for the Motherland.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1577 on: June 26, 2023, 02:41:22 PM »
Whoa!  I thought that Escobar joker was the biggest Putin fan-boy on the planet who would do anything for his One True God...but here comes Luongo...

In my worldview MI6 and the British Defense Ministry spend all day, everyday coming up with a new way to justify a wider conflict between NATO and Russia. The destruction and balkanization of Russia has, after all, been their raison d’etre for more than 300 years.

...

Alexander of Duran said that Russia hatred in UK goes way back, at least 150 years? Maybe more? Crimean war?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #1578 on: June 27, 2023, 08:13:21 AM »
Whoa!  I thought that Escobar joker was the biggest Putin fan-boy on the planet who would do anything for his One True God...but here comes Luongo...

In my worldview MI6 and the British Defense Ministry spend all day, everyday coming up with a new way to justify a wider conflict between NATO and Russia. The destruction and balkanization of Russia has, after all, been their raison d’etre for more than 300 years.

...

Alexander of Duran said that Russia hatred in UK goes way back, at least 150 years? Maybe more? Crimean war?

Which makes no sense...Russia started it by invading Turkish holdings in modern day Romania...

I suppose they are butthurt still over the fact that it took Winter to drive Napoleon from Russia while just a few years later Wellington defeated him at Waterloo and sent him running back to Paris...

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They are as bad as the spoiled blacks in America still looking to fight an institution long dead that only cost us over 1.6m casualties...
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