Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine

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Some say that the mutineers will only able to work outside of Russia.

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https://t.me/iEarlGreyTV/6092
🇩🇪🌈 Fitting isn't it? The Munich Pride Parade features a Ukrainian band with a song about Stepan Bandera, a Hitler sympathizer who killed hundreds of thousands of Poles, Russians, Jews AND homosexuals.

See the declassified CIA documents on Bandera here (https://t.me/inessas1992/763?single) (nickname Consul 2).
https://t.me/inessas1992/761

Further, CIA Operation Aerodynamic (https://t.me/inessas1992/4105?single) can be found here.
https://t.me/inessas1992/4104


Looks like they're all warring for Ukraine in Germany. 🤷??😅

[Libertas]

Both sides eagerly used their Nazi's against each other and neither cared about their past sins as long as they were sufficiently anti-Soviet or anti-American.

In other news...

This makes me chuckle - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sweden-allows-new-quran-burning-demonstration-ahead-nato-summit

I'm all for burning the Satanic book authored by the serial-pedophile serial-murderer Mohammad...or using it as emergency toilet paper...

That it pisses off thin-skinned megalomaniacs and cultists is a bonus.

IMO such freedom of expression is a virtue not a vice.

Meanwhile, Wagner continues to spook the gamma's running NATO - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-vows-defense-threat-wagner-forces-belarus

Gamma's always over-think everything...they emote and run around spewing nonsense....

I'd offer advice but why bother, they're idiots...

The Swiss continue to try and stay as neutral as possible...and if all are offended one can say it is working - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/switzerland-cites-neutrality-blocking-nearly-100-german-tanks-ukraine

The theaters remain in flux...

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Scott Ritter rants about the failed coup/whatever in Russia. In short, Russia had 2,500 Russian special forces ahead of them and 10,000 Chechen surrounding them. They were lined up on the highway. They were told to turn around or die.

The Wagner guy was to lose 2, $1Billion dollar contracts. IMO mental illness is the best explanation. The US and UK knew about the coup.

https://youtu.be/_WAeyhh1u9E

Post Russian Rebellion, Now What? w/SCOTT RITTER

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I know nothing about Dagestan. Apparently they voted to be part of the Russian Republic but not sovereign. I have no idea if the benefits outweigh the negatives of being part of the Russian Republic. They are Islamic. There is something to be said for trying to get along. The US likes civil wars. Not every country is like the US.

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1674234254031724544

Also short clip. 1 min.
https://youtu.be/b8GGvkASAdc

Putin meets adoring crowd on Dagestan visit
The Telegraph
3.91M subscribers
17,200 views Jun 29, 2023 #putin #dagestan #russia
Vladimir Putin made a rare public appearance in the remote southern region of Dagestan on Wednesday, greeting crowds just days after the attempted Wagner coup.

Russian media published images of the Russian leader interacting with a cordoned-off crowd on a main street in the Caspian city of Derbent, clasping the hands of excited supporters, as he met with regional officials to discuss tourism in the region.
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Official languages   Russian;[8]

    AghulAvarAzerbaijaniChechenDargwaKumykLezginLakNogaiRutulTabasaranTatTsakhur

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The ethnicities represented in the State Council are Avars, Dargins, Kumyks, Lezgins, Laks, Azerbaijanis, Tabasarans, Russians, Chechens, Nogais, Aguls, Rutuls, Tsakhurs, and Tats.

Also 20 sec clip
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1674234254031724544

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https://gab.com/twelveyearsnotaslave/posts/110643247198509433
The Prime Minister of Poland just released a video on his Twitter account illustrating the difference between 2 European countries, one with immigrants and the other one without them

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https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/07/02/america-has-just-destroyed-a-great-empire/

America has Just Destroyed a Great Empire
July 2, 2023
© Photo: Public domain

By Michael HUDSON
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Having endowed the region’s cosmopolitan Temple of Delphi with substantial silver and gold, Croesus asked its Oracle whether he would be successful in the conquest that he had planned. The Pythia priestess answered: “If you go to war against Persia, you will destroy a great empire.” ...So Croesus did indeed destroy a great empire, but it was his own.
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The president asked for advice from today’s analogue to antiquity’s Delphi oracle: the CIA and its allied think tanks. Instead of warning against hubris, they encouraged the neocon dream that attacking Russia and China would consolidate U.S. control of the world economy, achieving the End of History.
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Having organized a coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014, the United States sent its NATO proxy army eastward, giving weapons to Ukraine to fight an ethnic war against its Russian-speaking population and turn Russia’s Crimean naval base into a NATO fortress. This Croesus-level ambition aimed at drawing Russia into combat and depleting its ability to defend itself, wrecking its economy in the process and destroying its ability to provide military support to China and other countries targeted for seeking self-dependency as an alternative to U.S. hegemony.
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The Biden-Blinken-Nuland administration has done what neither Vladimir Putin nor Chinese President Xi could have hoped to achieve in so short a period.
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But their attention has now been focused by the U.S. confiscation of Russia’s official dollar reserves in NATO countries. That dispelled the thought of the dollar as a safe vehicle in which to hold international savings.
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[Libertas]

So Mikey is happy and blame is clearly assigned and fates are sealed.  Yay.

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So Mikey is happy and blame is clearly assigned and fates are sealed.  Yay.

I'm not sure if Hudson is happy about it. There must be a reason much of the world started to work around US financial hegemony in the past year.

Why did the Saudis pick this year to sell oil to China in Yuan?

IMO the US acted like a school yard bully and had financial hegemony. That benefited US citizens. The US over played its hand. Putin punched the bully in the nose and the other kids noticed.

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Col. Macgregor gives a fast paced history including Ukraine. Then about Asia, then US. 32 min. Maybe his best ever.  Not the versions you hear on the US MSM. He said Ukraine has a pop of 90 million in early 1990s. At the start of the war (201? 2022?) he said pop was 37.7 million. Now 18-20 million.

He against says we need to address problems at home. We are protected by two oceans and there are no  Russian or Chinese armies threatening US.

Eisenhower said neutral countries were good because there were less to defend. Like Austria. Now?

He said there are no communists in China. China, Japan, Korea want to be like Singapore. Singapore is fascist. Xi is like an emperor and they are happy with that. Chinese want security from invasion, food, and shelter. US elites should be forced to provide those.

https://youtu.be/c6ehKpLWMNU
 Douglas Macgregor & James Patrick: The Russia's breakout offensive
Douglas Macgregor Straight Calls
92.2K subscribers
29K views  4 hours ago

[Libertas]

China is totalitarian...

...the illegitimate corrupt government of ours wants to be like China.

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China is totalitarian...

...the illegitimate corrupt government of ours wants to be like China.

I have spent a lot of time trying to learn about China and it is still too weird to understand. The little I know is from a series of stories and videos.

They do not even think the same as westerners. According to The Geography of Thought that may be due to their verb oriented language. Culture? Genetics? 50,000 years apart will do things.

the illegitimate corrupt government of ours wants to be like China.

BUT without any of the competence. They actually build things. Yeah I know about lots of crappy construction.

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8 min history lesson on US support for NAZIs in Ukraine
BTW The reason I find this so interesting is I knew nothing about it. I thought WWII ended. US and USSR took in NAZIS to build rockets.  Commies took over eastern Europe. Cold War meant spying. US did some coups around the world like Latin America, Iran, etc. This explains why so many NAZIS in Ukraine but not elsewhere.

https://youtu.be/DFTJOTmx6h0?t=747

12:34 this conflict provides the only path to power for the Banderites
14:30 how the Azov became mainstream in the army. Security. Govt.
15:45 the Banderite body count in WWII. 30-40K Jews in Bobi Yar. 110K Poles?
16:20 how the CIA ran a covert war inside Poland Ukraine. Total dead: 48K Soviet security forces, 250K Russian civilians, 150K -200K Bandera supporters. 1945-1954
17:15 1954 some 150-200K  fled to US, UK, Canada.
18:30 The Banderite 150-200K diaspora used by CIA to hurt USSR inside USSR
18:45 150K Banderite sent to gulags.10-20 year sentences Khrushchev released them in 1956.
19:15 150K Bandera supporters returned to Ukraine. 1956-1990 CIA supported them inside Ukraine.
19:30 1990 CIA stopped paying them and used  NED to pay them, and used other NGOs.
20:30 US politicians tried to stop paying Azov etc. Later denied there were NAZIs in Ukraine

https://www.rbth.com/history/330877-5-cia-operations-against-soviets
Operation CARTEL, whose goal was to support Ukrainian nationalists, was already in full swing in the late 1940s. During those years the operation changed its name many times, but remains better known as AERODYNAMIC.

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Danilov announces the 'real' goal of the counter offensive

Oleksiy Danilov
@OleksiyDanilov
Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Coordinator of the Staff of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief
https://twitter.com/OleksiyDanilov/status/1676118862998257664
Oleksiy Danilov
@OleksiyDanilov
At this stage of active hostilities, Ukraine’s Defense Forces are fulfilling the number one task – the maximum destruction of manpower, equipment, fuel depots, military vehicles, command posts, artillery and air defense forces of the russian army. The last few days have been particularly fruitful. Now the war of destruction is equal to the war of kilometers. More destroyed means more liberated. The more effective the former, the more the latter. We are acting calmly, wisely, step by step.
1:40 AM · Jul 4, 2023
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[Libertas]

This is bullsh*t...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-preparing-nuclear-explosion-russian-reduces-zaporizhzhia-plant-presence

I have zero trust in Uke or Rus government...I think both are full of sh*t and both bear responsibility for actions in this war...with possession bearing the greater lead role in responsibility...

Others will merely be happy to accept someone's propaganda hook line and sinker no matter what...but that holds zero credibility with me...

If Rus pull out...there needs to be an independently monitored withdrawal and handover...

But I bet that doesn't happen...

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Here is Zelensky saying that the Russians had placed explosives on the Zap nuclear plant.
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1676336904285966336

Now we have information from our intelligence that the Russian military has placed objects resembling explosives on the roof of several power units of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. Perhaps to simulate an attack on the plant. Perhaps they have some other scenario. But in any case, the world sees – can't but see – that the only source of danger to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is Russia and no one else. Unfortunately, there was no timely and large-scale response to the terrorist attack on the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant. And this may incite the Kremlin to commit new evil. It is the responsibility of everyone in the world to stop it, no one can stand aside, as radiation affects everyone.

[Libertas]

Radiated Lives Matter

OK, good to know...

LOL

Anyway, only one thing defeats the Russian desire to set off a massive dirty bomb...the prevailing winds from West to East...

[Libertas]

Good rundown of the pooh show in Ukraine and the upcoming Vilnius NATO Summit...

https://weapons.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-from-the-vilnius-nato?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1159397&post_id=133455850&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

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Good rundown of the pooh show in Ukraine and the upcoming Vilnius NATO Summit...

https://weapons.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-from-the-vilnius-nato?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1159397&post_id=133455850&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Good. BTW the Turks used Leopards in Syria, likely with better training. ISIS lit them up. Don't know if that was mostly urban warfare or not.

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More interesting to me than most. Good part around 9:50. Alexander follows neocon US think tank publications. These people effect US foreign policy. The leading publications are Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, and the National Interest. Alexander follows these and sees a recent shift. US policy was to provoke Russia into a war over Ukraine, enact sanctions which would destroy the Russian economy which would force regime change in Russia. The west could then "decolonize" the Russian federation and pick apart the pieces. US govt, US corporations, and Russian oligarchs made a start at this in the 1990s.

Now some neocons are scared. This plan did not work out. Admitting Ukraine into NATO would lead to WWIII or NATO would admit Ukraine then refuse to go to war over Ukraine and NATO would fold. Some analysts predicted over a year that Ukraine war would destroy NATO.

Alexander studied the US politics over Vietnam. How did LBJ decide to end that war? LBJ was a realist who was not emotionally invested in hating Vietnam. Current US foreign policy leaders are emotionally invested ideologues, not realists.

https://youtu.be/EsYxz4OxsR0?t=584
on edit: LBJ was skeptical of experts but did not end the war. Nixon did. Both were realists not foaming at the mouth ideologues like now.