On occasion I hear people saying Russia should just leave all of Ukraine. That will never happen for many reasons. One reason is what Kiev has planned for the so called "collaborators." That has already happened in the couple areas where Russia left in a hurry in fall of 2022. Kiev really hates school teachers teaching in Russian controller areas.
You have russian military people saying they cant imagine coexisting with Ukrainians and that they will need to re-educate them if they (russians) win.
This is projection. For proof, readers should check out Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council 12-step strategy for the de-occupation of Crimea.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/the-12-steps-to-de-occupy-crimea-ukraine-s-security-council-50315002.htmlIf they retake Crimea, Ukraine plans to expel Russian citizens who settled there after 2014.
The Russian citizens who illegally came to reside on the Crimean Peninsula after February 2014 will have to immediately leave the Ukrainian territory within a period established by law.
Anyone who bought a home after 2014 will lose it. Those property transactions will be voided and the property seized by the state. Unless they consider you a citizen of Ukraine. Do you think it's likely that members of Crimea's Russian ethnic majority will be considered citizens of Ukraine in this situation?
Any deeds executed outside of Ukrainian legislation after February 2014, including those related to real estate, are considered null and void. Ownership of property is reserved for citizens of Ukraine. The property appropriated or nationalized by occupiers will be returned to the owners.
https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/crimea-de-occupation-in-12-steps-by-security-defense-council-secretary/All public employees will be tried to determine if they are criminally liable for "assisting the occupation". They seem to see all public employees as "Russian collaborators". Their examples include judges and civil servants. Imagine if you were in your 40's working in one of those roles when Crimea changed hands in 2014. You would never anticipate Ukraine retaking the peninsula someday. You have a family to support and so you continue going to work and living your life. You're of Russian heritage and there would be zero motivation for you to relocate to an area of Ukraine that is hostile to you. So, you stay in your job as a judge or a pencil-pusher in the tax bureau or the education ministry, or a member of the public works department. For that, now your life will be destroyed. You might end up in prison - and for what? Even if you don't, you're now in your 50's, too old to easily get a job elsewhere, especially in a hostile Ukraine, and you've just lost your job and your pension, and maybe even your home.
Civil servants, judges, prosecutors, law enforcement, and others employed by the Ukrainian state before occupation and who worked for Russian occupation structures will wait until a Ukrainian court determines their criminal liability. Even if they are not held criminally responsible, they could be deprived of their state pensions and be permanently banned from working for the Ukrainian state.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/the-12-ste ... 15002.html
Ukraine sure likes stripping people of their pensions. They did that to vulnerable old people in the Donbass, too.
Members of the media will also be tried to determine if they are collaborators who are guilty of treason for assisting the Russian occupation.
Propagandists — journalists, media professionals ... will be legally deprived of their liberty, titles, pensions, property, honors, and respect by a court of law.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/the-12-steps-to-de-occupy-crimea-ukraine-s-security-council-50315002.htmlAnyone felt to be too "supportive" of the Russians may lose their right to vote. What constitutes being "supportive"?
In addition to prosecuting perpetrators for collaboration and high treason, a lustration mechanism is under development that will determine the level of responsibility and degree of involvement of Crimean residents in supporting occupation administration activities. Sanctions could include the right to participate in elections – to vote and to be elected.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/the-12-steps-to-de-occupy-crimea-ukraine-s-security-council-50315002.htmlThey're actually even planning to force Russian "supporters" into labor gangs. You think I'm kidding?
A comprehensive detoxification program will be implemented to neutralize the effects of years of Russian propaganda on the collective consciousness of the peninsula's population. Using Germany’s experience of denazification in the 1940s, groups of active supporters of Russian occupation will be used in public works to rebuild destroyed Ukrainian cities and to exhume and rebury victims of Russian aggression (for those found guilty of equivalent crimes by a court).
https://english.nv.ua/nation/the-12-steps-to-de-occupy-crimea-ukraine-s-security-council-50315002.htmlI don't see any mention of payment, and - given the general tone of this document - I don't think it's unreasonable to speculate that is because payment is not planned.
Can you be forced out of your job to serve on one of these labor gangs for little or no pay? If you're supporting kids, what happens to them?
I'm guessing that "active supporters of Russian occupation" will likely be mostly a euphemism for any ethnic Russian that we couldn't immediately force out, plus anyone else we don't like.
More and more, I get the impression that Ukraine only wants the land back, not the people. These are not the actions of a state seeking reconciliation. It's clear that the outcome will be soft ethnic cleansing at best, a violent purge at worst. Those who stay will be second-class citizens perpetually at risk of losing their remaining rights. One can easily imagine the informal harassment that would be directed at those who stay in a society organized around the goal of punishing "collaborators" for "treason", where "treason" is just living an ordinary life in an area whose leadership changed hands, something ordinary people had no control over. Probably only the poor and the elderly will stay.
I don't have a good feeling about this 'detoxification campaign' given some of the rather colorful statements from the head of this council;
In a Facebook post on Sunday, Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) secretary, Oleksiy Danilov, addressed the “Russian Gauleiter refuse” in Crimea, describing “in broad strokes” how Crimea’s de-occupation will proceed after Ukraine liberates the peninsula.
He said those Ukrainian citizens who have become collaborators will be “target number one” of the process to “forever discourage anyone from even looking toward Moscovia or opening their mouths without thinking carefully before commenting on something related to Ukraine.”
https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/crimea-de-occupation-in-12-steps-by-security-defense-council-secretary/Same guy: The Russian language should disappear from the Ukrainian territory altogether - Danilov
"The Russian language must disappear from our territory altogether, as an element of hostile propaganda and brainwashing of our population."
https://frontnews.eu/en/news/details/44456Imagine being an ethnic Russian in Crimea and reading this. Would you want to reunite with Ukraine? These are the statements of people who are either lusting for vengeance or trying to scare Crimeans into fleeing, not of those who are willing to undergo a long, difficult and painful reconciliation process in order to become a unified nation again.
