Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine

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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/49970
??Residents of Lvov unexpectedly decided to open the eyes of all Ukrainian patriots regarding the standard of living under the USSR and the Kiev regime:

- "...Russian schools, kindergartens, houses, farms came, they built everything...the Ukrainians came and ruined everything. And what have you built in 30 years? You break and demolish everything! Just pennies, pennies!"

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I posted earlier the Wikipedia link to the Crimea referendums. The US/UK/Kiev wants to blow stuff up.
The locals complanied that from 1991 to 2014 Ukraine never improved the place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/49971
🎉 Today marks the 🔟 anniversary of Crimea's historic reunification with Russia.

During this time, life on the peninsula has been radically transformed - a colossal work has been done to improve the economic, investment, cultural and tourist attractiveness of Crimea, which today is one of the most dynamically developing regions not only in Russia, but also in the whole continent.

💬 Sergey Lavrov: Large-scale projects have been implemented and continue to be implemented, contributing to the revival and renewal of Crimea, its further integration into the political, legal and socio-economic space of Russia, and improving the quality of life of its citizens (from the Minister's video message on the occasion of the 10th anniversary of the Crimean Spring, March 16, 2024).

Over the past 10 years in Crimea:

? The largest transportation infrastructure facilities have been built:

- Crimean Bridge - the longest bridge in Europe, a symbol of Crimea's reunification with Russia.

- Simferopol International Airport is one of the most comfortable, well-equipped and modern in Russia.

- The Tavrida highway, which connected cities from Kerch to Sevastopol.

? Social infrastructure has been expanded and brought to a qualitatively new level:

- More than 7 million square meters of housing was put into operation.

- Several multidisciplinary medical centers were opened, including the N.A. Semashko Republican Clinical Hospital. N.A. Semashko Republican Clinical Hospital.

- The Artek camp, the largest international children's center in the world, was reconstructed.

- 3 major sports facilities were built, including the Water Sports Palace in Simferopol.

- 10 schools were built, 160 kindergartens were opened.

🤝 Special attention is paid to the harmonization of ethno-religious relations on the peninsula. An atmosphere of inter-ethnic and inter-confessional harmony is maintained in Crimea. Linguistic equality and diversity are respected.

[Libertas]

Crimea has become prime target #1...

British military officials advised that Ukraine should focus on defense in its ground fight against Russia in the east while focusing on targeted strikes against Crimea and Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, The Sunday Times reported.

The advice was given when British Defense Secretary Grant Shapps and UK Army Chief Antony Radakin visited Ukraine last week. The British officials said rather than attacking, Ukrainian forces should hold the line and pull back to more favorable ground if necessary.

"This will allow the Ukrainians to focus their efforts on the Black Sea and Crimea, where their forces, with the help of Western long-range missiles, have landed significant blows over the past six months," the report said.

A recording of a conversation between German military officers that was recently published by Russian media revealed that the UK has soldiers "on the ground" in Ukraine helping Ukrainian forces use Storm Shadow missiles, which have a range of 155 miles, making them capable of hitting targets throughout Crimea.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-tells-ukraine-focus-targeting-crimea

And Lindsey Graham the Brave is wanting to spend every last Ukrainian life to defeat Russia...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-graham-urges-expanded-conscription-despite-mounting-war-fatigue

...naturally, neither he, his fellow chest-beaters in Congress or his counterparts in Europe are willing to lead by example, so really how important is this, really?!

As for this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-warns-full-scale-ww3-victory-speech-should-west-send-troops

...I see nothing indicating WWIII isn't coming.

PS - What is The Kenyan doing at #10 Downing Street?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/president-obama-visits-british-prime-minister-rishi-sunak/

Whatever that treasonous POS is up to cannot be good for life or liberty.

And this...

https://youtu.be/dT5qeH161Rc

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/curiouser-and-curiouser-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comments

Coincidence?

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I was reminded of this, The western MSM and govt positions are so fragile that even a little bit of contrary facts harm them Looks how scared people were from just one Tucker interview.

The case with Anne-Laure Bonnel says all that's needed about western media freedom.
https://infobrics.org/post/36856/
Wednesday, October 19, 2022
French journalist loses her job after reporting situation in Donbass

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum

[patentlymn]

Crimea has become prime target #1...

 ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-graham-urges-expanded-conscription-despite-mounting-war-fatigue

...naturally, neither he, his fellow chest-beaters in Congress or his counterparts in Europe are willing to lead by example, so really how important is this, really?!

As for this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-warns-full-scale-ww3-victory-speech-should-west-send-troops

...I see nothing indicating WWIII isn't coming.

PS - What is The Kenyan doing at #10 Downing Street?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/president-obama-visits-british-prime-minister-rishi-sunak/

Whatever that treasonous POS is up to cannot be good for life or liberty.

And this...

https://youtu.be/dT5qeH161Rc

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/curiouser-and-curiouser-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comments

Coincidence?

Graham is sick. Again no mention of people. in WWII I recall there was some mention of liberating the French from NAZIs.
What the people of Crimea want to well known and documented.  The US be happy to kill or expel most of them.

I do not want to see a US carrier with 5K dead at the bottom of a sea but it might be  best for Us foreign policy.

[patentlymn]

These figures are from the Russian MOD
https://southfront.press/about-40-of-all-foreign-mercenaries-in-ukraine-destroyed/
About 40% Of All Foreign Mercenaries In Ukraine Destroyed
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As of March 2024, the Ukrainian army lost 5,962 foreigners during the ongoing Russian special military operation. Most of mercenaries came to Ukraine from Poland, the United States, Canada and Georgia:

    1,497 out of 2,960 Polish mercenaries have been eliminated;
    561 out of 1,042 Georgian militants;
    491 out of 1,113 mercenaries from the US;
    422 out of 1005 fighters from Canada.

822 mercenaries arrived from the UK, of which 360 were killed.

Out of 784 Romanian mercenaries, 349 militants were killed.

From Germany, 235 militants arrived to take part in hostilities in Ukraine, 88 of them were killed.

While Macron is looking for servicemen to be officially sent to Ukraine, France has already lost 147 citizens out of 356 militants who came to support Kiev.

“It is worth noting that France, which at all levels denies the presence of its mercenaries on the territory of Ukraine, has already lost 147 fighters out of 356 who arrived,” – the Russian MoD commented.

[patentlymn]

Said to be good but does not talk about Ukraine much?

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine
The Attritional Art of War: Lessons from the Russian War on Ukraine
Alex Vershinin

[Libertas]

Crimea has become prime target #1...

 ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-graham-urges-expanded-conscription-despite-mounting-war-fatigue

...naturally, neither he, his fellow chest-beaters in Congress or his counterparts in Europe are willing to lead by example, so really how important is this, really?!

As for this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-warns-full-scale-ww3-victory-speech-should-west-send-troops

...I see nothing indicating WWIII isn't coming.

PS - What is The Kenyan doing at #10 Downing Street?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/president-obama-visits-british-prime-minister-rishi-sunak/

Whatever that treasonous POS is up to cannot be good for life or liberty.

And this...

https://youtu.be/dT5qeH161Rc

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/curiouser-and-curiouser-you-decide/comment-page-2/#comments

Coincidence?

Graham is sick. Again no mention of people. in WWII I recall there was some mention of liberating the French from NAZIs.
What the people of Crimea want to well known and documented.  The US be happy to kill or expel most of them.

I do not want to see a US carrier with 5K dead at the bottom of a sea but it might be  best for Us foreign policy.

Well, that would get nukes flying.

[Libertas]

Said to be good but does not talk about Ukraine much?

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine
The Attritional Art of War: Lessons from the Russian War on Ukraine
Alex Vershinin

This is actually helpful.  Sadly, the US is not going to get into a protracted war of attrition...nor Europe...and so the risk of going even to just tactical nukes remains dangerously high if any wider engagement proves disasterous for the West.

[Libertas]

And here's some more "no sh*t?" news -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/former-top-polish-army-chief-admits-ukraine-losing-war

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/french-units-ukraine-will-be-priority-target-warns-russia

[Libertas]

Proves my point that they all lust for bloodshed...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/rocket-men-iran-warned-not-sell-missiles-russia/

[patentlymn]

And here's some more "no sh*t?" news -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/former-top-polish-army-chief-admits-ukraine-losing-war

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/french-units-ukraine-will-be-priority-target-warns-russia

Early in this war Russia sent some hypersonic missile into Ukr near some far border with Romania or Hungary  just to show it worked. It blew up some military base or warehouse. People said the message was they can hit anything they want, even Warsaw.

Warning NK not to do something is lame bc it looks lame when they then do it..

[patentlymn]

Said to be good but does not talk about Ukraine much?

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine
The Attritional Art of War: Lessons from the Russian War on Ukraine
Alex Vershinin

This is actually helpful.  Sadly, the US is not going to get into a protracted war of attrition...nor Europe...and so the risk of going even to just tactical nukes remains dangerously high if any wider engagement proves disasterous for the West.

I did not read the linked article yet. The summary from Alexander  was that in order to prevail the west would have to change everything in society and military.  The article is said to discuss examples of attrition warfare but not Ukraine. Maybe the editor picked the title.

I watched lots of social media about the war early one.  Many DPR militia ride alongs. I wanted to see if they were really from the Donbass. They were. Also the jobs they held before militia. Heavy industry, mining, welding, machinery. WWII posters for USSR said things like "Don't mess with the Donbass." USSR and Russia never closed all the shop classes.
Much later I saw a DPR soldier from Russia but he had not been in the military and moved older and volunteered.

Some Donetsk City residential and commercial neighborhood was getting shelled. They made respiratory safety equipment for mining. Masks. They had not sent the work to China. The women were in the basement bomb shelters singing songs..

Lots of heavy industry could be used for many things. The tractor factories could be or were used to make tanks.  I recall the washing machine factories in USSR built around a motor factory. The same motors were used in small sawmills and lathes.

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A good interview. Sachs was in the loop with the WH in Dec 2021 and learned what they wanted to happen.

https://youtu.be/c586OPde_NA
 Piers Morgan vs Jeffrey Sachs: "Can You Not Find Anything Negative To Say About Putin?"
Piers Morgan Uncensored

2.46M subscribers
 
387,517 views  Mar 18, 2024  #jeffreysachs #tiktokban #hitler
Piers Morgan is joined by Professor Jeffrey Sachs to discuss Vladimir Putin's fifth term as Russia's President, the ongoing war in Ukraine and who he thinks is to blame, America's potential TikTok ban, along with Israel's actions in Gaza.

Sachs criticises the United States who he says is responsible for exacerbating tensions with Russia, particularly through support for Ukraine and NATO expansion.

He argued that the overthrow of the Yanukovych government in 2014 was a critical turning point that led to the current crisis in Ukraine. By pushing for regime change and destabilizing the region, the US inadvertently contributed to the escalation of the conflict and strained relations with Russia.

00:00 - Introduction
02:13 - Professor Sachs on Russia's invasion of Ukraine: “This war was completely avoidable”
07:13 - Professor Sachs 'begged the White House many times to avoid war in Ukraine'
14:08 - Why can’t you say anything critical of Putin or Russia?
14:52 - A bid to ban TikTok and its influence
15:58 - “Do I find China a threat to the U.S.? No, not at all”
19:44 - Are there any bad guys in the world?
20:31 - What would you have done with Hitler after he invaded?
22:16 - The war in Israel: “We’ve never seen a Government like this before”
26:33 - Professor Sachs on U.S. politics: The country is “broken right now”

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I skimmed this.

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

The fastest way to lose a war of attrition is to focus on manoeuvre, expending valuable resources on near-term territorial objectives. Recognising that wars of attrition have their own art is vital to winning them without sustaining crippling losses.
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In this context, a successful strategy accepts that the war will last at least two years and be broken into two distinct phases. The first phase ranges from initiation of hostilities to the point where sufficient combat power has been mobilised to allow decisive action. It will see little positional shifting on the ground, focusing on favourable exchange of losses and building up combat power in the rear. The dominant form of combat is fires rather than manoeuvre, complemented by extensive fortifications and camouflage. The peacetime army starts the war and conducts holding actions, providing time to mobilise resources and train the new army.
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The second phase can commence after one side has met the following conditions.
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Only after meeting these criteria should offensive operations commence. They should be launched across a broad front, seeking to overwhelm the enemy at multiple points with shallow attacks.
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After that, combat solidifies. This period lasts at least a year-and-a-half to two years. During this period, major offensive operations should be avoided. Even if large attacks are successful, they will result in significant casualties, often for meaningless territorial gains. An army should never accept a battle on unfavourable terms. In attritional war, any terrain that does not have a vital industrial centre is irrelevant. It is always better to retreat and preserve forces, regardless of the political consequences.
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Propaganda is used to support military operations, not the other way around.

[Libertas]

Said to be good but does not talk about Ukraine much?

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine
The Attritional Art of War: Lessons from the Russian War on Ukraine
Alex Vershinin

This is actually helpful.  Sadly, the US is not going to get into a protracted war of attrition...nor Europe...and so the risk of going even to just tactical nukes remains dangerously high if any wider engagement proves disasterous for the West.

I did not read the linked article yet. The summary from Alexander  was that in order to prevail the west would have to change everything in society and military.  The article is said to discuss examples of attrition warfare but not Ukraine. Maybe the editor picked the title.

I watched lots of social media about the war early one.  Many DPR militia ride alongs. I wanted to see if they were really from the Donbass. They were. Also the jobs they held before militia. Heavy industry, mining, welding, machinery. WWII posters for USSR said things like "Don't mess with the Donbass." USSR and Russia never closed all the shop classes.
Much later I saw a DPR soldier from Russia but he had not been in the military and moved older and volunteered.

Some Donetsk City residential and commercial neighborhood was getting shelled. They made respiratory safety equipment for mining. Masks. They had not sent the work to China. The women were in the basement bomb shelters singing songs..

Lots of heavy industry could be used for many things. The tractor factories could be or were used to make tanks.  I recall the washing machine factories in USSR built around a motor factory. The same motors were used in small sawmills and lathes.

It's Soviet Doctrine...something Stalinists excelled at...making a sh*t-ton of low-cost weapons (the AK is an example, utilitarian, blunt, maybe not the most accurate but durable) and using numbers to wear down the enemy and then overwhelm him when weakened enough...akin the the rope-a-dope of Ali.  Nothing new or glamorous about it it.  Utilitarian.  The West relies on superior systems and technology...Russia is employing a mix, some of the old Soviet Doctrine with sprinkles of technology.  And, as if it wasn't obvious they have position.  The only way the West could hope to challenge conventionally (which buildups in Poland and Romania indicate) is to launch a preemptive attack on a long front...say like from Norway to the Black Sea which is over 1600 miles, much longer given borders...and hope to make (really hard) deep incursions and then hope to (extremely hard) hold it and negotiate an end from a position of strength.  Even though this means getting an immense perhaps even impossible number of ducks in a row...and even if it is position-wise scaled down to just Baltics to Black Sea still a Herculean task...sadly, it cannot be discounted these maniacs are thinking just that...and then the tactical nuke response would be in Russia's hands.

This insanity must be prevented, there has to be a settlement.  Even a perpetual skirmish laden uneasy coexistence in Ukraine is preferable to that insanity. 

[Libertas]

The Raider will be the backbone of the USAF's bomber fleet, replacing the B-2A Spirit and B-1B Lancer bombers in the coming years.

"The limited production rate of the B-21 is the only thing that I wish we could do a little quicker," Gen. Anthony J. Cotton said during a recent Senate Armed Services Committee.

And why is that?

Well, you'll find that answer here: "Putin Warns Of 'Full-Scale WW3' If West Sends Troops To Ukraine."

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/northrop-grumman-releases-new-image-b-21-stealth-bomber

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/france-blasts-russian-spy-chiefs-remarks-irresponsible-provocation

All trends bad.

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What I found interesting was the timing in the article matched the Russian timing. They seemed to mostly sit still and train the troops for a long time.  Kiev made things worse for themselves with the counter attack against Russian defenses.
Now the advance along a long front as described in the article. The MSM likes to call it a stalemate as the Russians did not take much land. IMO their intention was to grind down the enemy.

This is brutal. Kiev soldiers maybe with concussions from the FAB bombs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1bjnk9i/ua_pov_affected_afu_soldiers_after_surviving_a/

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I only watched a little so far. So far it is from the Polish point of view going back a ways.
https://rtd.rt.com/films/inventing-ukraine/

[patentlymn]

https://twitter.com/ELuttwak/status/1769031992757121112
Yes there is a shortage of young people but the UKR  government has yet to take elementary measures. It should set the conscription age at 18, and revoke the passports of males under 40 who do not return to be tested for conscription. A War of Independence requires nothing less
https://twitter.com/ELuttwak/status/1768996355106545826
In Ukraine the age of conscription is 27, that is when people have started to work & have children. Naturally not many show up. Now they are discussing lowering the age to 25, still absurd. 18 is the right age, with bodies of growing strength. The Ukraine army is much too small



https://t.me/RWApodcast/994
Graham is not the only one calling for the conscription of Ukrainian zoomers. Neocon Luttwak also called for the lowering of a conscription age.

So, we can see that this idea is becoming entrenched on the fringes of the American establishment. Sooner or later, It may become mainstream. This will lead to catastrophic consequences for Ukrainian people, given that the current stock of young people in this nation is at its historic low.

I propose, instead, we create two Volunteer battalions in the US. First one will be named Graham Brigade and will consist of homosexuals. And the second one will be Luttwak Brigade made of Jews. And they will fight their war instead of the Ukrainian youth.