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Are We Preparing for the Wrong Thing?
Libertas:
I have no doubt we are in a pitched battle of good vs evil, that seems a certainty and it has been going on since Day 1 at varying degrees of intensity, and I think the intensity meter is pretty elevated and rising. If KittenClaws is right, and I hope she is, then I think I am prepared for that, and as Alan says when they "come for us" they better be prepared for a hostile welcome! It could be cats toying with food simply because it is there...or it could be playing with food as a preliminary toward devouring it. Who knows? I tend to think like Weisshaupt and think if WMDs are used it will be really hard to survive, but I am stubborn and even if only to get a few licks in before I expire I'd like to have that shot! And alien stuff aside, there is too much chatter of oddness out there for there not to be some sort of measure of truth behind faceless evil forces and secret hideouts to ignore, call them Illuminati or whatever. I guess it comes down to not wanting to be cheated out of my pound of flesh...some evil scum has to pay early!
Weisshaupt:
--- Quote from: KittenClaws on December 15, 2013, 06:14:58 PM ---
I think they are pushing buttons until we make the first move. That way the killing would be justified. You see how they demonize patriotism; how conservatives are portrayed, we must become evil so they can be perceived as good...No, they won't come gunning for us. They want us to reach tipping point, they want us to shoot first.
--- End quote ---
Ann Barnhardt was going off in one of her latest podcasts on the need for real action - riots in the streets, clashes with police and so on-- lamenting that we are not rebelling like the Ukraine is against Putin's puppet govt there. However, there is a huge difference - if those in the Ukraine just wait, nothing much is likely to change in Putin's situation. That is not true of our Tyrants. Celente is betting on a complete fiat collapse in 2nd-3rd Quarter of 2014 ( and has been for a while now) and I think that is entirely plausible. Others place that date as far out as 2018. They disagree on the form of the destroyed - Hyper inflation, deflation via Tapering/Bond rates, war, etc but SOMETHING will happen, suddenly or slowly over the next decade that will reduce America to 3rd world living standards, and the dollar to near irrelevance.
To KittenClaws point, we are tactically better off waiting to resist - it allows us to continue to prep in a quasi-stable but ever worsening environment, and it keeps the ball firmly in the Tyrant's court. If they desire to retain control, they will need the police state in place before this decline/collapse occurs. If they move to take the guns we fight. If not, we can wait till their ability to control us is defunded by reality. They will continue to issue orders of course, but without money to pay enforcers, they will simply become a joke.
If they were willing to move into wholesale slaughter - of the Chemical or Bioweapons kind, it begs the question -"Why haven't they already done it? What are they waiting for?" - Even if the intent was to impose martial law - they could have cut off the EBTs and just let the resulting riot give them the excuse. They have not yet pulled a trigger - either to stage a false flag tea Party attack, nor to get the non-contributing zeros out demanding their "fair share" with violence.
They are definitely preparing for something: Drills in urban areas, practice targets of citizens, litmus tests and purges of the Military personnel form the top down, purchases of billions of rounds of hollow point, Armed Swat teams in the Education dept, MRAPS and other military gear being pre-positioned with local police, targeting vets for PTSD and disarm them, border checkpoints and illegal stops 100 miles form any border. .. . )
I have also noticed that the probing they have done seems to be located in certain cities. ( Experimental Martial Law in Boston, Mandatory innoculation orders in Mass and now in New York)
The comments the leftists made when Northern Colorado Counties were considering leaving the State of Colorado, indicated that many feel that the rural areas depend upon cities.. that without the State Tax revenue collected there wouldn't be enough tax dollars in a rural area to fix roads, pay for police or fire depts, etc - So the leftists in charge may have similar vies and may be simply thinking they will grasp and control the metro areas in Boston, New York, DC , Chicago, and simply leave the rural areas to rot. (no that won't work, but they may not see it in their arrogance)
The question is if they are cognizant and have a plan or if they are blindly just kicking the can and, like us, just milking the system till its gone. If there is a plan, how much of that planning is incoherent and bound to be disastrous because of their hubris?
Was the Obamacare roll out deliberately poor to create a crisis ( never let a crises go to waste!) or was it due to their supreme confidence in their own (in)ability?
The goals of such planning are also not obvious. It could be they are simply willing to destroy all of America and leave it to rot in a civil war, not caring who, what or if anything ever controls it again - and that is I think the most likely scenario given their actions - with perhaps a smaller plan to build a fiefdom in New England Area under martial law, and cutting their losses in flyover territory.
Or maybe they really think they can hold the whole thing together and rule with an iron fist. . Its hard to say. Many different actors with many different motives, each playing games to manipulate others into advancing their plans is the answer I suspect. I have no doubt that many of those actors, if given the power and means, would order each and every conservative in the country re-educated or killed. Some may realize the difficulty of that given the 2nd amendment, but others, with more hubris, may not, and they are the ones more likely to give it a go.
Weisshaupt:
--- Quote from: AmericanPatriot on December 15, 2013, 09:00:13 PM ---If you look at this only as a left/right or tyranny/freedom battle, it seems far fetched.
However, if you look at it as good vs evil or Light vs darkness, it isn't at all far-fetched.
--- End quote ---
I am not sure I understand the distinction you are making. This is not and never has been a battle between two equally valid ideologies that are in conflict. If the left had an ideology they would then have principles and be able to produce arguments for their position, and provide a rebuttal for ours. The "ideology" of the left is simply a cloak to provide them with an appearance of legitimacy. They have no principles, other than the pursuit of power and control. They will gladly abandon any position as soon as it becomes clear they can gain advantage and move their quest for dominance forward by taking another. This is why they are always for things before they are against them. It is why the only standards they have are double standards. They call for civility, but are not willing to be civil. They see our morals and tendency to play by the rules as pathetic weakness. Its only "wrong" if you get caught. As Zinn pointed out, for leftists objectivity is impossible and if it weren't its undesirable - the pursuit of their agenda justifies lying in textbooks, lying in negotiations, and lying to get laws passed ( If you like you plan you can keep you plan) They, each and every one, from the general to the footsolider, are narcissistic sociopaths INCAPABLE of dealing in good faith. Truth is irrelevant to them. Morality is irrelevant to them ( they are Ubermench!) The rights of others are irrelevant to them. Live and let live is a philosophy that imposes the beliefs of others on them!( Especially the belief that you are a human being, real and whole with rights and not the property of the collective)
These people, from the Politicians to the Unions to the non-contributing zeros to the members of your own family. EACH AND EVERY ONE is EVIL because each and every one is incapable of seeing you as a human being. You can't have leftist friends because, at the core, these "friends" see you as property. They do not care for you, nor do they love you. You are valuable to them only for what you provide to them ( ego stroking,financial help, a feeling of being loved, or even a feeling of being superior to you) - deny them that and see how quickly they drop you, with no remorse, and with no feeling ( yeah, they will pretend to be hurt if they think that will manipulate you. Try not buying and see how it turns to righteous anger that you, their property, dare reject them)
This isn't a principled disagreement between reasonable and moral parties who are both seeking the best outcome according to different value systems. If it were, the left would be far more interested in the actual real world failures of their policies and would be actively seeking ways to improve them. They don't care at all - because those polices are doing exactly what they are intended to do- subjugate and control.
This is, and always has been, about controlling other people, and being willing to lie, cheat, steal and kill to get their way. And yes, they ALWAYS end by killing when they obtain enough power. Mao. Pol Pot. Stalin. Mussolini. Hitler. The desire to control others is the heart of evil. and that is all leftists understand.
--- Quote ---Sauron is not evil because he wears black armor. Sauron is not evil because he is warlike. Sauron is the embodiment of evil because all of his strength and power is deployed to bend every living creature to his will.
--- End quote ---
This has always been a battle between good and evil. That anyone is confused about this is testament to the left's deception about their own designs and motives, and the media's ability to ignore it.
The Media.
AmericanPatriot:
Weisshaupt, I was referring to a spiritual battle between forces bigger than us as opposed to ideological between competing ideas
Weisshaupt:
--- Quote from: AmericanPatriot on December 16, 2013, 09:39:23 AM ---Weisshaupt, I was referring to a spiritual battle between forces bigger than us as opposed to ideological between competing ideas
--- End quote ---
Again, I am not sure I am getting the distinction. I am not much of a theologian, nor a christian, but my understanding is that the battle between good and evil rages all around us every day.. and has our entire lives. My contention is this has never been an ideological battle, and has always been the perpetual moral one in which the greater forces have always taken an interest, and this is only one lens in which to view this conflict accurately.
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