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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2014, 04:50:45 PM »
Here we go.

If he came from Africa, he came on a plane. He encountered an untold number of people before he became symptomatic. He encountered health care workers before he was diagnosed, and they in turn encountered patients, intimately.

Here we go.


All of whom went home to their families at some point, and in turn all of those family members went to jobs and schools.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2014, 04:52:38 PM »
I can't help but think... "Never let a crisis go to waste." I would wager that the regime is making plans as we speak.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2014, 04:58:14 PM »
Here we go.

If he came from Africa, he came on a plane. He encountered an untold number of people before he became symptomatic. He encountered health care workers before he was diagnosed, and they in turn encountered patients, intimately.

Here we go.

I agree: Here we go. I'm still trying to figure out where we're going. Does anyone besides me see a possible police state attempt emerging from this?
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2014, 06:46:12 AM »
Here we go.

If he came from Africa, he came on a plane. He encountered an untold number of people before he became symptomatic. He encountered health care workers before he was diagnosed, and they in turn encountered patients, intimately.

Here we go.

Yup.

And the Feds you see, are refusing to give we, their bosses, any info on him...

"The unidentified man was critically ill and has been in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital since Sunday, federal health officials said Tuesday. They would not reveal his nationality or age."

http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/ap_0df7248061c142deaa3df064cb2e3263

...which is to say his nationality must not be American.

I work in the healthcare industry, we have people pouring in from all corners of the globe...

I tell ya, I contract a nasty something from some foreign assclown we just let waltz into the country to go any damn place they please...not gonna end well for somebody...

Same for Islaminal terrorists...way I see it, what's the diff?!


ETA -

Location of CDC contamination centers...



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/cdc-confirms-first-ebola-case-diagnosed-us

...not sure it is a good thing or a bad thing one is near me...

 ???
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2014, 08:58:36 AM »
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I tell ya, I contract a nasty something from some foreign assclown we just let waltz into the country to go any damn place they please...not gonna end well for somebody...

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2014, 09:08:00 AM »
So now it comes out that this guy was originally sent home with antibiotics.  So prior to being diagnosed, but already symptomatic, he was sent back out where any number of people would have come into contact.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2775872/Man-Ebola-Dallas-hospital-SENT-HOME-antibiotics-deadly-virus-discovered.html
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2014, 11:23:17 AM »
Yeah, well...this is the "Ahhaaawww, schucks...what's the worst that could happen?" America, thanks to O'Bongo and his ilk...ya get what ya get...just remember who is at fault so eventually they get theirs!!!

Oh, crap, that didn't take long...

Second ebola patient surfaces in Texas!!!

 ::cussing::  Somebody's ass should be whupped!!!
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2014, 11:30:08 AM »
This is also one of those situations where the possible hidden costs of Political Correctness are impossible to calculate.  You would think hospital protocol would be extra cautious for any patient exhibiting flu-like symptoms who had just recently arrived from West Africa.  But like the people who hesitated to say anything about the Ft. Hood jihadist, could someone have decided it's not worth the possible opprobrium that would come from "profiling"?  At this point we don't know much about the patient except that he's a man who arrived from Liberia on the 20th.  Is he of African origin, or a Westerner?  I'm thinking the sequence of events points to him being an African.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2014, 11:37:37 AM »
Yes, the refusal of the Feds to say means only one thing - African.

And yes, the pc/diversity/multi-culti cultist mental illness will help ensure innocents suffer as a result of their ideological insanity!

Mark my words - payback for this kind of willful negligence will hurt real real bad!!!

Speaking of Africa and cultists...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/obama-defers-deportation-of-liberians-on-same-day-tx-ebola-patient-enters-hospital/

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2014, 11:53:19 AM »
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2014, 12:01:01 PM »
At this point we don't know much about the patient except that he's a man who arrived from Liberia on the 20th.  Is he of African origin, or a Westerner?  I'm thinking the sequence of events points to him being an African.

He's a Liberian-American. Or at least a Liberian...

Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.

"We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture.

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2014, 12:03:15 PM »
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.

Yeah, the elitist "true-believer" exemption they all think they'll get...well, depends how high up the trash heap you are and how long you have to enjoy your place before righteously angry people rip you to pieces!!!
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2014, 12:03:55 PM »
At this point we don't know much about the patient except that he's a man who arrived from Liberia on the 20th.  Is he of African origin, or a Westerner?  I'm thinking the sequence of events points to him being an African.

He's a Liberian-American. Or at least a Liberian...

Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.

"We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture.

I think worse is about to happen...these folks never listen to warnings...their culture is their religion...
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2014, 05:05:56 PM »
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.

Yep. Its unfair that only the third world has poor health care and diseases.  Lets pass Obamacare and collapse the southern border so that everyone can suffer equally!

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2014, 05:56:32 PM »
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.

Yep. Its unfair that only the third world has poor health care and diseases.  Lets pass Obamacare and collapse the southern border so that everyone can suffer equally!

That is the liberal/socialist/communist motto, don'tcha know.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2014, 01:09:59 AM »
I will jot down my thoughts:

1) This is not Africa. And that is both good and bad. Why is it good? It's good because we are a technologically advanced society with a reasonably intelligent population and the ability to communicate health warnings quickly and broadly. Why it is bad? It's bad because we are a technologically advanced society with the right, the ability and the will to move about freely and we do so frequently.

During the earlier ebola outbreaks the infected were not highly mobile and that kept the death limited to geographically small and isolated areas. This ebola outbreak is different because the infection was able to (and allowed to) spread beyond small villages to large cities such as Monrovia. It is because of this that the health experts have plotted charts with geometrically escalating rates of infection...large numbers of people packed into a relatively small space. Small villages are not terribly difficult to quarantine but large cities are virtually impossible to keep sealed. It was inevitable that the disease would get out of these cities and gain footholds in other places, linked by modern travel modes. This has now happened and just like that, it's here in the USA.

2) As I noted in a different ebola thread, we are counting on government workers to thread the needle here. From the beginning of this first reported incident a hospital worker (who could have passed for a government worker) screwed the pooch and sent a symptomatic (and therefore highly infectious) victim away instead of immediately putting him into isolation. And that was even after the victim told the hospital worker that he was from Liberia and that he had been in direct contact with infected and symptomatic victims just a short while ago. This is the same type of indifferent mentality that allowed hundreds of morons to starve and wallow in their own filth inside the New Orleans Superdome for days on end in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Imagine just how much more incompetence would have been demonstrated if actual government workers had been involved.

Have we dodged a bullet in this one particular case? Almost certainly not. It will be nothing short of miraculous if there are not subsequent infections from this one particular case. But the thing is...there is a very high likelihood (bordering on near certainty) that there will be other infected persons in other parts of the country who had nothing to do with this one particular case...in other words, if it happened once then it can most certainly happen again.

Each new case, whether connected to this particular case or not, is another opportunity for the disease to be spread far and wide.

3) Which brings me to my third and larger point. Whether you believe that this crisis is planned or unplanned it is, nevertheless, a crisis. Remember back to the hours and days that followed the moment when the planes struck the WTC and the Pentagon. First, on a federal level we literally crippled the air transportation system instantly and kept it that way for a week. Then the country went on a (totally justifiable, in my opinion) paranoia binge as regards terrorists and terrorism. No one could have known at the time that there would not be another successful terrorist attack of the same magnitude. But we had to behave as if there could be. The effect on the country and the economy was very real. Certainly something less than crippling but definitely a ripple that ran through everything and that left a mark.

So...if we have further ebola patients popping up here and there and if those patients manage to spin off a few (or worse, many) new infected persons I believe we can expect some or even a very significant portion of the country to come to a grinding halt. This is what I see coming. It will not take much for the country to be pushed to a tipping point in this situation. All it will take is a few more reported cases coupled with the to-be-expected social media visuals (people convulsing, vomiting and bleeding profusely) and you will begin to see people voluntarily going into isolation. The country cannot take a three to four week vacation en masse and not pay a terrible price. But this could very well happen.

And that's a best case scenario when you think about it. That is all assuming that we get a relatively few infected persons flying into the US from Africa. What if we get a few dozen or a few hundred ebola African imports generously sprinkled across the country? We are supposed to have something like 13,000 visa holders from the affected African countries and the WH has today literally promised that there will be no ban on travel from these areas into the US.

4) I am also personally concerned about other modes of infection. Specifically I am concerned about ebola being transmitted by way of insect bite. More specifically I worry about mosquitos. Mosquitos are a disease transmission mode for quite a few diseases and I do not see why ebola cannot be passed from person to person in this manner. We are told (and I think correctly) that ebola is not passed on by airborne means and that it is (highly) unlikely to mutate in that direction. But, we are not told (by the media or by official government announcement) that ebola can not be spread by insects. They don't say that it can or can't but instead avoid the topic completely. This omission by omission is unsettling to me. Why not just come out and talk about it?

Malaria, for instance, is transmitted by mosquitos. Unlike ebola, malaria is a protozoan parasite and it is introduced into a host by way of the insect's saliva. (Coincidentally, ebola is frequently mistaken for malaria during the onset of symptoms...headache, fever, vomiting) Ebola virus material is significantly smaller than the malaria parasite so it seems to me that there is zero reason why a few strands cannot be passed back and forth between a mosquito and a human during a feeding. If, for instance, one can become infected from a light scratch of an ebola contaminated hypodermic needle then I see no reason why a mosquito bite cannot perform a similar action.

Another thing that bothers me is the opportunity for a blood borne infection to spread through fleas. This is, if I remember correctly, how the plague was spread. Also of concern is the possibility of bed bugs spreading ebola. Bed bugs are blood sucking parasites. They have in recent years experienced a pretty big comeback due to the unavailability of effective pesticides (thanks, libs). Bed bugs are nearly impossible to eradicate and they can be found in not a few hotels in any number of cities both large and small. The wikipedia entry on bed bugs states that there is no evidence that they transmit diseases from one human to another but I remain skeptical.

So...these are just a few of the things that I am contemplating in this brave new world that President Dumbass has bestowed on us.

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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2014, 02:49:38 AM »
Other happy news: Possible ebola patient in isolation in Hawaii hospital. Hospital admins are saying there is nothing to see here. What a relief.
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2014, 04:58:51 AM »
He's a Liberian national.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0

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MONROVIA, Liberia — A man who flew to Dallas and was later found to have the Ebola virus was identified by senior Liberian government officials on Wednesday as Thomas Eric Duncan, a resident of Monrovia in his mid-40s.

Mr. Duncan, the first person to develop symptoms outside Africa during the current epidemic, had direct contact with a woman stricken by Ebola on Sept. 15, just four days before he left Liberia for the United States, the woman’s parents and Mr. Duncan’s neighbors said.

The dead woman's brother, who helped bring her to the hospital, is dead as well as a few of the neighbors who came in contact with her.

Meanwhile, back at the funny farm that is now our country, Duncan had contact with at least five children after being turned away from the Dallas hospital after his initial visit.

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Despite national guidelines for evaluating potential Ebola cases and worldwide awareness of an epidemic that has killed thousands in West Africa, a man who later tested positive for the disease was released from a Dallas hospital even though he said he had traveled to Texas from Liberia.

The man returned two days later and was placed in isolation before he became the first person ever diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. But as a result of this lapse, Thomas Duncan was able to leave the hospital and interact with more people while experiencing symptoms, which is when the virus becomes contagious.

Now officials are watching at least 12 to 18 people with whom the man may have come into contact, including five children he may have been around during the time between his hospital visits, officials said Wednesday.

And, since we've now become the rescue nation for the entire friggin world ...

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WASHINGTON, D.C. — President Obama on Friday extended the so-called Deferred Enforced Departure for qualified Liberians living in the United States for two years, avoiding the possibility that they could be sent home to a country where the Ebola virus is raging.

U.S. Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., who has been pushing to obtain that extension, called the decision “an act of common sense and decency.” The DED extension affects thousands of Liberians in Rhode Island, home to the largest Liberian population per capita in the country.

Yes, by all means, let us be "fair and decent" to everyone but we American citizens who bear the burden of this "cultural enrichment".

He had to know he was exposed, so, did he know he was infected?
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2014, 06:46:18 AM »
I've had it with all of this crap...we have been lied to and screwed over from Obama on down to the lowliest libiot bureaucrat and by the Goebbels-worshipping MFM and this entire stinking rotten system...there is NOBODY looking out for the plurality because the Progs have been allowed to be successful in dividing this nation to the point where it cannot function rationally any more.  At some point the root causes of all our misery will have to be dealt with, but I despair that day will ever arrive...the average IQ of the nation being barely above that of common bacteria...

ETA, In the news...

Dallas parents pull kids out of school...predictable, most must be racist white folk though, right?  I mean that is the meme the libiots will push...hysterical white folk reacting to that racist gene again, more proof whitey will never change and must be made to change, eh?

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html?rh=1

And, go a step further you end up in the f**ked up mind of Louis Farrakhan - Whitey made Ebola to kill blacks!

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Minister_Louis_Farrakhan_9/article_101804.shtml

Uhh huh...right.  Light up some more crack Louie, the Mothership be comin'!

And it appears this Liberian national was puking his Ebola-infected guts out outside his apartment before going to the hospital.

Given Pan's links above, it appears Louie is barking up the wrong tree, Obama be keeping these people here, so...this is a black on black crime, dumbass!  Whitey just getting caught in the crossfire!

Meanwhile the Fedcoats are having a whale of a time trying to track down airline passengers who may be exposed to the virus, so the potention there, with the kids, friends of this Liberian...more outbreaks are likely.

And from King Barry, the latest in the Obama Regime's "Biggest Lie Ever!" contest - Earnest also said that there "are screening procedures in place at our border."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-we-reminded-border-agents-protocol-after-ebola-case_808448.html#!

O'rly?  And nobody asked this POS about the millions that have poured across illegally since his Sith Master took the throne?

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Totally psychotic, people are totally psychotic to a) trust these people with ANY power! b) trust ANYTHING these people say and c) let them continue doing either!!!


ETA - And isn't this interesting...

Foggy Bottom orders 160,000 Class A HazMat suits?    :o

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-01/how-bad-could-it-get-us-government-order-160000-hazmat-suits-gives-clue

I don't think the entire SecSt payroll has 160,000 on it!
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Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2014, 10:01:43 AM »
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