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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #260 on: July 17, 2014, 08:22:31 AM »
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #261 on: July 23, 2014, 07:59:57 AM »
Jeez, get a load of this!

Only in Crony Capitalist Kabuki World can someone warn of dire straits ahead for the market on one hand and then spin it off into an infomercial for a master of the universe to pimp his sure-winner schpiel to profit even in a down market!

http://www.moneynews.com/mktnews/billionaire-yellen-market-collapse/2014/07/21/id/583962/

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Just put that sheeple back into the shearing line!  We'll get the rest of the wool of that bastard!

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #262 on: July 24, 2014, 07:52:02 AM »
Gates, runs, fees...oh my!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-23/gates-are-closing-sec-votes-through-money-market-reform

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #263 on: July 24, 2014, 09:03:06 AM »
 "...considering that the entire rally since 2009 has been on the back of the Fed and the primary dealers, with virtually none retail participation,..."
This part grabbed my attention.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #264 on: July 24, 2014, 11:15:51 AM »
What was said is not so much a surprise, that it gets voiced clearly and openly and still is unheard/ununderstood by millions illustrates how dumb most of the herd really is...

Kabuki is all they have, and they are running out of options/victims to fleece...the end (of it all) is in sight...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #265 on: July 30, 2014, 11:35:49 AM »
US GDP Growth at 4%!

Wow I am glad that is over the the recovery is finally here!
Looks like we were all wrong guys, and 4% will just keep up forever and everything will be fine.

Everything is AWESOME!
!!Eleventy!!111!

oh wait, there are details NOT in the headline..

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The US economy grew at an annual rate of 4% during the April-to-June period, latest figures released by the US Department of Commerce have shown.

Consumer spending - which makes up over two-thirds of US economy activity - grew by a robust 2.5%.

Business spending increased by 14% in the world's largest economy, as businesses restocked inventories.

The growth during the second quarter reverses the contraction seen earlier in the year.

Measured on a quarter-on-quarter basis, GDP grew by 1%.

In the previous quarter, from January to March, the US economy shrank a revised 2.1% on an annualised basis, as a result of harsh winter weather.

However, even with the rebound, the winter is likely to mean overall growth this year will be only 1.6% - less than in 2013.

That could cause the Federal Reserve - which ends a two-day meeting on Wednesday - to continue to keep interest rates low for an extended period into 2015.


Seriously - they are highlighting  the bogus expected annual numbers  instead of  the actual quarterly and Year to date?
Real growth in the US economy is currently negative.  They had to change how GDP was calculated to hide that fact - and still had to admit that was the case last quarter.  And Business Spending was up 14%? They are BUYING BACK THEIR OWN STOCKS! That is apparently called "restocking" now.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #266 on: July 30, 2014, 11:41:12 AM »
All ur numberz b-long tu us!

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #267 on: July 30, 2014, 05:13:23 PM »
Plus even this bullsh*t will be quietly revised in a few months time, no doubt in a Friday document dump.


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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #268 on: July 31, 2014, 06:54:41 AM »
A slew of Bogus Lies and Shyt coming out today:

Date Time  Release Impact For Actual Expected Prior 
Jul 31 7:30 AM  Challenger Job Cuts  Jul - NA NA 
Jul 31 8:30 AM  Initial Claims  07/26 - 310K 310K 
Jul 31 8:30 AM  Continuing Claims  07/19 - 2525K 2525K 
Jul 31 8:30 AM  Employment Cost Index  Q2 - 0.4% 0.4% 
Jul 31 9:45 AM  Chicago PMI  Jul - 60.0 61.8 
Jul 31 10:30 AM  Natural Gas Inventories  07/26 - NA NA 

And the claims for sure always get revised!

Kabuki, just say "More, please!"...because no matter what you say that is all they hear anyway!  They'll be firing up the band and rearranging deck chairs till the end...

ETA -

http://finviz.com/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-31/employment-costs-surge-most-6-years-initial-claims-miss

Job numbers - miss, miss, miss.  So worse than pulled out the PTB butt the first time, OK then, everything is still Awesome!

Good discussion here with Peter Schiff & Doug Casey on the real state of things...basically we are too far gone, to happily willfully ignorant and thus screwed beyond imagining...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-30/peter-schiff-and-doug-casey-real-state-economy

I like how they close with Argentina and how stupid their government and cronys are and that the people there are used to and prepare for the stupidity in contrast to us...and once again Argentina defaults!

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #269 on: July 31, 2014, 02:24:24 PM »
This is good...



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-31/fitch-warns-high-yield-default-rate-set-jump

I like the increasing compaction in the lag time between spikes...

Kinda looks the same here too for a historical snapshot for the past couple hundred years, the frequency is increasing -



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-31/214-years-sovereign-defaults-one-chart

Latin America is hot, true, but that long drought for Spain is about to end and Greece may set a record for quickest repeat ever.

And soon we'll be on that list and no doubt will earn a really big dark menacing blob.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #270 on: July 31, 2014, 11:15:04 PM »
Annecdotal, I know, but my own business is currently the best it has been since just before the crash. I can hardly keep up with the demand.

Now...that said...there are "problems."

1) DumbassCare continues to be a drag on me. That is, me personally, but since I am being anecdotal, well, why not? My health insurance costs are still way higher than last year and in October I lose my insurance and have to choose between the DumbassCare exchange wonder-offerings or a health sharing plan. I will be going onto a health sharing plan.

2) Taxes are outrageous and are almost certainly going to go much higher. What good are increases in revenue when you don't get to keep any of it? The more business I have the less of it I get to keep. The incentives are all pointing toward doing with less because working for more seems to be a sucker's game.

3) Fuel/food/and other commodities are getting more expensive, not less. Inflation is not going away and it's more than just inflation. In addition to our money being worth less there are artificial (regulation caused) influences that are pushing costs of a lot of basic goods ever higher. Meat is more expensive because of mandated ethanol production making corn (feed) more pricey. Ethanol mandates make gasoline more expensive, too. Water costs more because of EPA mandated pollution standards. Energy will cost more because of EPA forced closings of coal power plants. The list goes on and on but the result is the same, stuff costs more, not less, in this economy.

4) I'm pretty sure that the public employee pension crisis hasn't gone away on its own. That is one of the big contributors to municipalities, of which Detroit is only the most well known, from going bankrupt. This is a ticking time bomb.

5) Last time I checked the federal government is still out of control with its fiscal problems. Even in this so-called "hot" economy that we now suddenly find ourselves in the federal government is still taking in way less than it spends and the spending is still going up at an unsustainable rate. Repeat: unsustainable debt and unsustainable spending. That word, "unsustainable," it does mean something.

6) Thousands of new federal welfare deadbeats are flooding into the country. They have not yet registered their negative effect on the economy but just like lead weights around a runner's ankles, they will.

Bottom line is that 4% economic growth (if that number is believable which it isn't) isn't that great and is really more of a fluke than anything else. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is probably the best quarter that BO has had in six years. But it's the only one like it and the numbers are almost certainly wrong.

So, things are going good for me personally right now. Yay, me. But I don't expect them to stay that way. I'm still expecting things to go right back into the toilet at any moment because I know who is driving the car. It's still Toonces behind the wheel.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #271 on: August 01, 2014, 01:13:19 AM »
So, things are going good for me personally right now. Yay, me. But I don't expect them to stay that way. I'm still expecting things to go right back into the toilet at any moment because I know who is driving the car. It's still Toonces behind the wheel.

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Seriously though, glad to hear things are going well.  Wish I was in a business where I could say the same..  its slow, and what work I have makes me question my sanity...

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #272 on: August 01, 2014, 06:42:01 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but that is probably the best quarter that BO has had in six years. But it's the only one like it and the numbers are almost certainly wrong.

So, things are going good for me personally right now. Yay, me. But I don't expect them to stay that way. I'm still expecting things to go right back into the toilet at any moment because I know who is driving the car. It's still Toonces behind the wheel.

Yes, I believe you are correct on the first point, for whatever that is worth to Obama, which isn't much.  Wasn't W excoriated by the Dems for causing a horsesh*t economy with a paltry 4.7% GDP once?  Well yeah the MFM carries that collar too.

And for your enumerated points 1-3 are felt now and will only get worse, points 4 and 6 are just ramping up and point 5 will never get better.

My BIL is lucky right now as his own health insurance is through my sister's plush MNA (nursing union) plan, and he does not offer bennies for his laborers, if anything in the (cough) law changes that he will throtle back to small jobs he will only do himself and dispense with employees.  Since most of his work is through municipalities and school districts (85-90%) once they start feeling the squeeze the bid opportunities will dry up and so will the income for all contractors...he sees the handwritting on the wall and he would like to find someone to buy out his business which has a super solid reputation and track record, but any prospective buyer faces the same challenges so, unless one with money and is a little dim comes along, he's stuck riding this thing down to the bitter end.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #273 on: August 01, 2014, 06:50:47 AM »
Lovely little Friday dump shaping up here, the PTBs have all sorts of tasty skittles dropping out of their butts!

Date Time  Release Impact For Actual Expected Prior 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  Nonfarm Payrolls  Jul - 250K 220K 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  Nonfarm Private Payrolls  Jul - 240K 225K 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  Unemployment Rate  Jul - 6.1% 6.1% 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  Hourly Earnings  Jul - 0.2% 0.2% 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  Average Workweek  Jul - 34.5 34.5 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  Personal Income  Jun - 0.5% 0.4% 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  Personal Spending  Jun - 0.2% 0.4% 
Aug 01 8:30 AM  PCE Prices - Core  Jun - 0.2% 0.2% 
Aug 01 9:55 AM  Michigan Sentiment - Final  Jul - 82.5 82.0 
Aug 01 10:00 AM  ISM Index  Jul - 56.0 55.9 
Aug 01 10:00 AM  Construction Spending  Jun - -0.5% 0.3% 
Aug 01 2:00 PM  Auto Sales  Jul - NA NA 
Aug 01 2:00 PM  Truck Sales  Jul - NA NA

Place your bets, throw darts or just sit back and snort and laugh...

Lets ask all those laid off and not counted any more how they think everything is...lets ask everyone if they like paying more for less at the grocery store...

Or let the PTBs just keep lying and doubling-down on suicide...

What a circle jerk this all is!
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #274 on: August 04, 2014, 11:41:06 AM »
Nobody has pissed away a nations wealth not yet earned than Barack Hussein Obama!

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/706025967449751-federal-debt-7t-under-obama



Let Hitlery/Fauxahontas/TheWookie or whoever earn the burn that is surely coming!
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #275 on: August 12, 2014, 07:42:03 AM »
Inside a FedHead's head...

Sounding a somber note even as the economic outlook in the United States brightens, the Federal Reserve’s No. 2 official acknowledged on Monday that global growth had been “disappointing” and warned of fundamental headwinds that might temper future gains.

The official, Stanley Fischer, who took over as vice chairman of the Fed in June, noted that although the weak recovery might simply be fallout from the financial crisis and the recession, “it is also possible that the underperformance reflects a more structural, longer-term shift in the global economy.”

In a speech delivered on Monday in Stockholm at a conference organized by the Swedish Ministry of Finance, Mr. Fischer also conceded that economists and policy makers had been repeatedly disappointed as the expected level of growth failed to materialize.

“Year after year, we have had to explain from midyear on why the global growth rate has been lower than predicted as little as two quarters back,” he said. “This slowing is broad-based, with performance in emerging Asia, importantly China, stepping down sharply from the postcrisis surge, to rates significantly below the average pace in the decade before the crisis.”

Mr. Fischer said it was difficult to determine how much of the slackness was because of cyclical factors and how much represented a more fundamental, structural change in advanced economies.

But he warned of three pronounced headwinds that have held back growth in the United States: a still anemic housing market, cuts in federal government spending and weaker global growth that reduced demand for American exports.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/12/business/Stanley-Fischer-of-Fed-Warns-of-Slow-Growth.html?_r=0

Oh yeah, structural changes...I think they're coming soon.

And look at those Neo-Keynesian idols!  Housing, government spending, exports!  Bwuuhaahaaaa!!!  Are you sh*tting me, Stan?  Debt slavery works better when people have incomes that rise, not fall for what the 26th straight quarter?  Oh, and how about that inflation y'all hide?  Like you every go to a grocery store, pal?  Pay more for less much?  And then you just bundle up all the toxic waste for the taxpayer to cover and think, hey, let's fire up the fricken merry-go-round again?  You and your prog ilk effed up the housing market permanently, it will never have the kind of growth you need to fund your kabuki show!  Reduced earnings, reduced purchasing, less apetite for debt and bailouts, get used to it!  And exports, well, like housing, with unions and regulation and taxation, we have a primarily service-based economy with zero job growth, wtf we exporting, Einstein?  Capital, I think that is about all.  And the Holy of Holies - government spending!  Yes, Debtman, what will you do when the dollar implodes and nobody wants our paper anymore, dollars and bills and bonds will be useful for fires and bottoms, that's about it!

These morons are sealing the nations fate!!!
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #276 on: August 12, 2014, 07:40:07 PM »
Before the crash,  the biggest home builder (not a national company) in my market market made a really good move.    Most of my fellow realtors at the time thought they were nuts (as they couldn't build what they were building at the time fast enough),  but this builder sure saw the crash coming.    They came out with a new line of homes that was substantially less expensive then what they were doing back then.    They spent a lot of time and money promoting this new line. 

They never stopped building throughout the worst of this recession,  they probably were the only builder to open a new subdivision during 2010.   Some of the national companies had to come to a complete halt on new starts.   Granted what they were building was going for $150,000 less then what they built before (they still have their line of more expensive houses,  though they don't sell many of those anymore).  They have done pretty well considering how housing is. 

I don't know whether the made the change back in 2008, because of this (at the time coming) recession in mind or just the overall decline we see today.  He danced around that question the time I asked.   I am guessing I know the answer to that,  but he doesn't want that going around.   

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #277 on: August 13, 2014, 07:14:34 AM »
There is the old saying "Chaos breeds opportunity" and the wise person takes the meat of that saying to heart, there are ways to survive distruptions in the normal flow, it can be dicier now that the Puppetmasters are so perverting things that "normal flow" really doesn't mean what it used to...learning to keep your sea legs in choppy waters is a skill all people will have to learn or they will perish.

As for real estate in this neck of the woods, my nephew the realtor is seeing steady not spectacular work, the best news being the number of short sales has declined to near pre-2008 levels, but banks are loath to be as loose with the credit quality now and so the drive towards lower cost smaller units is going to be a continuing trend and I doubt existing home prices will bounce back anywhere near pre-2008 levels ever again as a result.

And it'll muddle along like that until the next wave of chaos throws ships on rocks...

Spin the wheel...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #278 on: August 14, 2014, 08:05:17 AM »
Top paying jobs...for now...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-13/10-best-paying-jobs-2014

Figures.  Peoples guts n' stuff are gross, mouths and brains not much better...and can barely stand attorney's...

I should have become Pharmacist!   ::facepalm::  Oh well.

Meanwhile, most Americans are in JOB's like this!

I'm sure the influx of more illegals will help the situation...

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Claims numbers today were a miss too...cooked numbers cannot even meet bogus expectations...

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #279 on: August 15, 2014, 08:08:55 AM »
This news makes me nervous, there is evidence from previous episodes that PTBs like this jackass of prepositioning themselves, being insiders and fellow puppetmasters, it makes sense that that would be the case, but usually we find out about these moves after the fact, so is this a preliminary feint to sucker people in and fleece them on a dead cat bounce play and then move bearish?  It's what I would expect from a demon like this.  Could be a feint in a feint...and therefor a real move.  Bloody demons!

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/need-to-know/2014/08/15/does-george-soros-know-something-we-dont-about-the-sp-500/
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