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Topics => General Board => Topic started by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 02:11:35 AM

Title: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 02:11:35 AM
...if the Constitution still matters.

Or maybe when you think that the average American is so stupid that he/she will not understand the importance of the Constitution and therefore is open to giving such an idiotic question even a moment's consideration.

But probably most likely is that you (the author) thinks that everyone is as stupid as you are.

LINK to a very, very stupid article. (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2079445,00.html)

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9775/1101110704400.jpg)

Samples of the jewels of colossal ignorance to be found within:

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The framers were not gods and were not infallible. Yes, they gave us, and the world, a blueprint for the protection of democratic freedoms — freedom of speech, assembly, religion — but they also gave us the idea...that South Dakota should have the same number of Senators as California, which is kind of crazy.
This betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the differences between the two houses of Congress. And a lack of curiosity to even explore the issue. The author is probably equally mystified as to the difference in term lengths between representatives and senators.

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They created checks and balances to neutralize any concentration of power. This often makes for disorderly government, but it does forestall any one branch from having too much influence. The framers weren't afraid of a little messiness. Which is another reason we shouldn't be so delicate about changing the Constitution or reinterpreting it.
Delicacy, of course, has nothing to do with changing the Constitution. The methods of amending it are clearly defined and always have been. It's hard to do for a reason. But this guy doesn't know or care why.

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Speaker of the House John Boehner has asserted that the President is in violation of the War Powers Resolution, passed in 1973, which requires the President to withdraw U.S. forces from armed hostilities if Congress has not given its approval within 60 days.
It's actually the War Powers Act. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution) That means it's a law which carries just a little more weight than a mere resolution.

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Since the signing of the Constitution in 1787, Congress has declared war exactly five times: the War of 1812, the Mexican War, the Spanish-American War and World Wars I and II.
An incomplete list at best. Patently false at worst. It leaves out the Iraqi War Resolution. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution) Also left off of the list is the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Terrorists) (authorization to go to war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan). These very obvious false statements are made in the article for the express purpose of providing cover for O'Bama on Libya.

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The government also compels us to buy car insurance (if we want to legally drive our car), which is a product from a private company.
Moronic point that tries to equate the voluntary action of car ownership with the involuntary act of being born. It also (purposefully) confuses state government laws (on car insurance requirements) with O'BamaCare federal mandates regarding health insurance.

I could go on and on and on with how stupid this article is, how fabulously stupid and dishonest the article's author is, etc. but you get the point.

The author is either incredibly ignorant about the Constitution (always a possibility) or extremely dishonest in its interpretation in his slavish desire to carry water for O'Bama. I'm going to guess that it's a 40/60 split.

And, yeah, it's crap like this that explains why Time magazine readership has been declining steadily for years: They keep lowering the bar for their readers. At some point it will have to become an audio only publication because their demographic will be too heavily made up of those who are too stupid to read.




Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 02:36:57 AM
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The Affordable Care Act may be bad legislation, as some contend, but that doesn't mean it's unconstitutional. There's no law against bad laws. The remedy for bad laws is elections.

Wow. I thought the remedy for bad laws was the Supreme Court. Who knew?
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 02:44:41 AM
Here's the best of the stupid quotes:

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If the Constitution was intended to limit the federal government, it sure doesn't say so.

It just doesn't get any more ignorant than that. That Bill of Rights thingy is a mirage. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 02:51:43 AM
Maybe Time is hiring high school dropouts to write their stuff.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Sectionhand on June 25, 2011, 03:52:47 AM
What else would one expect from a lefty rag like Time ?
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 03:56:47 AM
Oops, sorry...my mistake. This piece of crap article was written by Time's managing editor, Richard Stengel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stengel) who apparently considers himself to be a Constitutional scholar because he was once the president and CEO of the National Constitution Center. (http://www.constitutioncenter.org/ncc_home_Landing.aspx)

According to his bio, one of his greatest accomplishments while at the NCC was the creation of the Liberty Medal. And in case you didn't know:

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The Liberty Medal is an annual award administered by the National Constitution Center of the United States to recognize leadership in the pursuit of freedom.

A partial list of award winners:

Jimmy Carter (1990) for his work toward stamping out the very existence of the only true democratic nation in the middle east.
King Hussein of Jordan (1996) for actively promoting freedom and liberty and stuff in his autocratic regime.
CNN International (1997) for actively promoting the left wing point of view.
Kofi Annan (2001) for overseeing the murder and rape of hundreds of thousands of Africans who wished they had liberty and freedom.
Hamid Karzai (2004) for posing as the head of the freedom and liberty lovin' Taliban haven known as Afghanistan.
Bono (2007) for just being a really cool dude who cared a lot about AIDS and Africa and stuff.
Mikhail Gorbachev (2008) for being everyone's favorite communist despot.
Steven Speilberg (2009) for making ET and because O'Bama just wanted a photo op with him.
Tony Blair (2010) for being the Democrats' favorite liberal British prime minister.
Robert Gates (2011) for killing lots and lots of non-freedom and non-liberty lovin' terrorists.

Roughly a two thirds of the Liberty Medals have been awarded to non-Americans and a lot of the award winners are arguably enemies of freedom and liberty. But then O'Bama got a Nobel Peace Prize on the come and has spent all his time since working toward earning the first annual Nobel War Prize so really not too surprising when you think about it.

You will also note the absence of Ronald Reagan's name from the list. Gorbachev, yes. Reagan, no. Makes perfect sense if you're a lib.
Also GWB is not on the list. Karzai, yes. GWB, no. Again, makes perfect sense if you're a lib.
Also not on the list is "the American Serviceman." CNN International, yes. American soldiers/airmen/sailors, no. Makes perfect sense if you're a lib.

So you can easily see why Richard Stengel, Constitutional Expert, is so very proud of this award that he got credit for creating.

BTW, Stengel's bio is very proud of his magna cum laude graduation from Princeton and his subsequent Rhodes scholarship. Not so proud of his major or his degree since it isn't prominently featured anywhere. That's usually a pretty good indication of a solid liberal arts degree in something totally useless like English or Literature. Maybe even something really crappy like the arts.



Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Sectionhand on June 25, 2011, 04:52:55 AM
If you see and listen to Stengel you'd swear he was queer but I guess he's not . As far as his degree , I think it's safe to say he wasn't a Phys. Ed. major but it's doubtful that his academic rigor is of a generally useful nature .
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: AlanS on June 25, 2011, 07:01:42 AM
If you see and listen to Stengel you'd swear he was queer but I guess he's not . As far as his degree , I think it's safe to say he wasn't a Phys. Ed. major but it's doubtful that his academic rigor is of a generally useful nature .

Philosophy, maybe? ::hysterical::
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 25, 2011, 07:23:30 AM
This is part of the Leftist method. They see highly charged obstacles to their agenda, and someone takes the point position, daring to touch the third rail. Then it's out there - part of the discussion. Soon others become emboldened to speak out, as they see no great harm coming to the first. They have seen the constitution as an obstacle for a long time. They need people to start questioning is viability and applicability in order to begin dismantling it. A Time Magazine front-page hit piece on the nations founding document will facilitate emboldening Leftists to begin openly discussing its demise.



Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: BigAlSouth on June 25, 2011, 07:37:55 AM
Time Magazine: The "Buggy Whip" of Print Media.

I can say with pride that I have never, ever purchased a copy of this irrelevant, declining source of liberal news and progressive movement cheerleading.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 08:33:25 AM
I can say that, too. My parents used to subscribe to it back in the seventies.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 25, 2011, 08:36:55 AM
Perhaps, Time being a lib trendsetter wannabe, this is an attempt at anti-Tea Partyism by way of insulting and degrading that which the Tea Partiy holds most dear. I mean besides (for some) love of God.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Predator Don on June 25, 2011, 09:42:48 AM
It's an apologist, cover piece for our current commander in chief.....The one who has sullied the Constitution at every opportunity.

Trap, with your permission, would you mind if I used portions of your critique? Pieces of crap such as this need to be attacked and I have the idea of an opinion piece for my small local paper, if I can get it printed.
If I can't get it printed, then I'll buy the space.
This type of garbage needs to be challenged.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Alphabet Soup on June 25, 2011, 09:50:05 AM
I can say that, too. My parents used to subscribe to it back in the seventies.

My parents preferred Life (take that however you may)...
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: BigAlSouth on June 25, 2011, 02:13:14 PM
I can say that, too. My parents used to subscribe to it back in the seventies.

My parents preferred Life (take that however you may)...

(http://images0.cpcache.com/product/61104720v20_480x480_Front_Color-White.jpg)

Wham!
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: John Florida on June 25, 2011, 02:36:46 PM
Is it any wonder that kids read this and come out dumber than they went in?
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: ToddF on June 26, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
If you see and listen to Stengel you'd swear he was queer but I guess he's not . As far as his degree , I think it's safe to say he wasn't a Phys. Ed. major but it's doubtful that his academic rigor is of a generally useful nature .

Philosophy, maybe? ::hysterical::

English  ::facepalm::
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: John Florida on June 26, 2011, 09:14:34 AM
If you see and listen to Stengel you'd swear he was queer but I guess he's not . As far as his degree , I think it's safe to say he wasn't a Phys. Ed. major but it's doubtful that his academic rigor is of a generally useful nature .

Philosophy, maybe? ::hysterical::

English  ::facepalm::


 Art?
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: ToddF on June 26, 2011, 09:38:08 AM
No snark that time.  English according to Wiki.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Pandora on June 26, 2011, 12:30:23 PM
Here's the best of the stupid quotes:

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If the Constitution was intended to limit the federal government, it sure doesn't say so.

It just doesn't get any more ignorant than that. That Bill of Rights thingy is a mirage. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?

It's willful "ignorance" if you will.  There's a list and some "shall nots", so in this case, the nuance must "escape" them, despite their ilk finding a "right" to abortion that isn't listed either, despite the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness stated elsewhere.

This is just another spoke in the wheel of "the Constitution was written for another time; it's outdated".

None of these ditwads understands the first thing about Principles.

Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Thresherman on June 26, 2011, 12:49:02 PM
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It's actually the War Powers Act. That means it's a law which carries just a little more weight than a mere resolution.

Uh, actually no, it is more complicated than that.

From the Library of Congress Law Library web site.

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This guide is intended to serve as an introduction to research on the War Powers Resolution, Public Law 93-148, 87 Stat. 555, passed over President Nixon's veto on November 7, 1973. The War Powers Resolution is sometimes referred to as the War Powers Act, its title in the version passed by the Senate. This Joint Resolution is codified in the United States Code ("USC") in Title 50, Chapter 33, Sections 1541-48.

The term "Resolution" can be misleading; this law originated as a Joint Resolution and was passed by both Houses of Congress pursuant to the Legislative Process, and has the same legal effect as a Bill which has passed and become a law.
http://www.loc.gov/law/help/war-powers.php (http://www.loc.gov/law/help/war-powers.php)
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: rickl on June 26, 2011, 01:13:18 PM
The stupidest part is right in the first paragraph:
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Here are a few things the framers did not know about: World War II. DNA. Sexting. Airplanes. The atom. Television. Medicare. Collateralized debt obligations. The germ theory of disease. Miniskirts. The internal combustion engine. Computers. Antibiotics. Lady Gaga.

So both technological progress and cultural deterioration have rendered the Constitution obsolete?  Glad he cleared that up.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Pandora on June 26, 2011, 01:15:23 PM
The stupidest part is right in the first paragraph:
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Here are a few things the framers did not know about: World War II. DNA. Sexting. Airplanes. The atom. Television. Medicare. Collateralized debt obligations. The germ theory of disease. Miniskirts. The internal combustion engine. Computers. Antibiotics. Lady Gaga.

So both technological progress and cultural deterioration have rendered the Constitution obsolete?  Glad he cleared that up.

As I said, a complete absence of the knowledge of First Principles (and human nature).
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Thresherman on June 26, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
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The framers were not gods and were not infallible. Yes, they gave us, and the world, a blueprint for the protection of democratic freedoms — freedom of speech, assembly, religion — but they also gave us the idea...that South Dakota should have the same number of Senators as California, which is kind of crazy.


Never mind that the reason it was done so that the smaller states did not become the mere vassals of the larger ones, which is not so crazy if your goal is to respect the views of all the states and not to let the larger ones run roughshod over the smaller ones.  Further, to find the wisdom of that, one only has to observe what a cluster f*ck California is and how fortunate we are not to have them dictating their lunacy on a national level any more than they currently do.


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They created checks and balances to neutralize any concentration of power. This often makes for disorderly government, but it does forestall any one branch from having too much influence. The framers weren't afraid of a little messiness. Which is another reason we shouldn't be so delicate about changing the Constitution or reinterpreting it.

They checks and balances were placed to prevent omnipotent central authority, which is exactly the goal of of the left when they want to change or reinterpret the Constitution.  


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Speaker of the House John Boehner has asserted that the President is in violation of the War Powers Resolution, passed in 1973, which requires the President to withdraw U.S. forces from armed hostilities if Congress has not given its approval within 60 days.

Obastard is is in violation and if it was Bush this asshat would be apoplectic about it.

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The government also compels us to buy car insurance (if we want to legally drive our car), which is a product from a private company.

First off, car insurance requirements are state and not federal law and if you cannot grasp that distinction, the last thing you should be doing is writing an article about the Constitution and should be taking remedial civics.  Secondly, this has meme has been trotted out by liberals in so many instances and has been thoroughly debunked so many times, that anyone using it yet again, has no gift for depth of thought and is clearly confusing the regurgitation of liberal talking points with rational thinking.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Thresherman on June 26, 2011, 01:31:09 PM
The stupidest part is right in the first paragraph:
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Here are a few things the framers did not know about: World War II. DNA. Sexting. Airplanes. The atom. Television. Medicare. Collateralized debt obligations. The germ theory of disease. Miniskirts. The internal combustion engine. Computers. Antibiotics. Lady Gaga.

So both technological progress and cultural deterioration have rendered the Constitution obsolete?  Glad he cleared that up.

As I said, a complete absence of the knowledge of First Principles (and human nature).

It actually is promoting the insipid idea that the tools we use alter and dictate out ethics and morality.  That murder is somehow more heinious if we use an semi-automatic pistol rather than a single action or even a club.  They simply cannot get their minds around the concept that it is the act and not the tool that is immoral.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: John Florida on June 26, 2011, 02:46:36 PM
The stupidest part is right in the first paragraph:
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Here are a few things the framers did not know about: World War II. DNA. Sexting. Airplanes. The atom. Television. Medicare. Collateralized debt obligations. The germ theory of disease. Miniskirts. The internal combustion engine. Computers. Antibiotics. Lady Gaga.

So both technological progress and cultural deterioration have rendered the Constitution obsolete?  Glad he cleared that up.

As I said, a complete absence of the knowledge of First Principles (and human nature).

 Check your PM.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 26, 2011, 09:05:01 PM
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It's actually the War Powers Act. That means it's a law which carries just a little more weight than a mere resolution.

Uh, actually no, it is more complicated than that.

From the Library of Congress Law Library web site.

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This guide is intended to serve as an introduction to research on the War Powers Resolution, Public Law 93-148, 87 Stat. 555, passed over President Nixon's veto on November 7, 1973. The War Powers Resolution is sometimes referred to as the War Powers Act, its title in the version passed by the Senate. This Joint Resolution is codified in the United States Code ("USC") in Title 50, Chapter 33, Sections 1541-48.

The term "Resolution" can be misleading; this law originated as a Joint Resolution and was passed by both Houses of Congress pursuant to the Legislative Process, and has the same legal effect as a Bill which has passed and become a law.
http://www.loc.gov/law/help/war-powers.php (http://www.loc.gov/law/help/war-powers.php)

I am guilty of being unclear on this point and I suppose it has to do with the late hour when I wrote the post.

On reflection I suppose that I should have left this out of my post.

I guess I was trying to express the issue that this law is often not taken seriously because it is referred to as a resolution by whichever party is currently trying to ignore it. The fact is that it is a law and should either be obeyed or challenged in federal court as to its constitutionality.

The article's author goes on to say this:

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The War Powers Resolution is a check on presidential power, but the President seeks to balance this by, well, ignoring it. That's not unconstitutional; that's how our system works.


Which is to say, the president breaks the law and that's okay with the author because, presumably, he agrees with the president in this situation.

Clinton ignored the law during the bombing in Kosovo (and also in Somalia) so this is nothing new for Democrat executives to violate the law.

The article's author is being very selective in his discussion of the law for reasons that I will assume we can all guess. I did not express this well.

Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 26, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
It's an apologist, cover piece for our current commander in chief.....The one who has sullied the Constitution at every opportunity.

Trap, with your permission, would you mind if I used portions of your critique? Pieces of crap such as this need to be attacked and I have the idea of an opinion piece for my small local paper, if I can get it printed.
If I can't get it printed, then I'll buy the space.
This type of garbage needs to be challenged.

Anything that I write here may be used by anyone. I do not write professionally (very obviously) so I care nothing for attribution. If I ever get to that point I will copyright what I commit to print. I don't see that ever happening.

So go for it.

EDIT: I think you may find a better source for your opinion piece HERE. (http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=2221420&spid=32345) Pull up the audio archive and listen to that.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Thresherman on June 26, 2011, 09:42:04 PM
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The War Powers Resolution is a check on presidential power, but the President seeks to balance this by, well, ignoring it. That's not unconstitutional; that's how our system works.
Which is to say, the president breaks the law and that's okay with the author because, presumably, he agrees with the president in this situation.

Clinton ignored the law during the bombing in Kosovo (and also in Somalia) so this is nothing new for Democrat executives to violate the law.

The article's author is being very selective in his discussion of the law for reasons that I will assume we can all guess. I did not express this well.

My intent was to clarify not criticize.

Having said that, let us not forget that the left, even though Bush was in compliance with the WPR/A, wanted to impeach him over it. 

They should call themselves the Double Standard Party rather than the Democratic.

They could still keep the (D).
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 26, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
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The War Powers Resolution is a check on presidential power, but the President seeks to balance this by, well, ignoring it. That's not unconstitutional; that's how our system works.
Which is to say, the president breaks the law and that's okay with the author because, presumably, he agrees with the president in this situation.

Clinton ignored the law during the bombing in Kosovo (and also in Somalia) so this is nothing new for Democrat executives to violate the law.

The article's author is being very selective in his discussion of the law for reasons that I will assume we can all guess. I did not express this well.

My intent was to clarify not criticize.

Having said that, let us not forget that the left, even though Bush was in compliance with the WPR/A, wanted to impeach him over it. 



Agreed.

Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: BigAlSouth on June 26, 2011, 10:20:58 PM
Obama, during the election process, was able to convince 52% of the voting public that he was exactly what they wished for in a President. This is actually an impossible effect as most of the Democrat Special Interest Groups eventually conflict with each other. The anti-war Left was convinced that they were electing a President who would close GITMO and bring the troops home. What they have realized is that GITMO will never close, Muzzies ain't gonna be tried in downtown New York, and their boy is as much of a Warmonger as Bush ever was. Ignoring the War Powers Resolution just reminds the anti-War Left that Obama, again, is a disappointment.

I hope Obama does nothing to validate the War Powers Act or Resolution. It will result in another reason certain parts of the Left will not be energized in 2012.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: LadyVirginia on June 27, 2011, 12:26:30 PM
Talking about preaching to the choir....

Clearly, Time knows its readers.

Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Weisshaupt on June 27, 2011, 05:04:30 PM
Frank J's response at imao.us  to this was perfect

* The article inside the Time magazine is a special form of aggressively stupid. It includes the sentence “If the Constitution was intended to limit the federal government, it sure doesn’t say so.” How do you even respond to this? It’s like someone arguing “Two plus two equals Thursday.” It’s pointless to argue; just steer clear. Really, though, with magazines failing left and right, this is what Time is going to pay someone to write? At this rate, they’ll be lucky get the dollar asking price Newsweek had.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 27, 2011, 08:10:09 PM
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I hope Obama does nothing to validate the War Powers Act or Resolution. It will result in another reason certain parts of the Left will not be energized in 2012.

A snippet on the radio today about  ::pokeineye:: losing losing big donors.  That may be what that Big 11 industrial kumbahja he's trying to pull is about.........campaign money, bleed the companies for all they are worth.

Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Predator Don on June 27, 2011, 10:16:01 PM
There is no doubt, with any liberal, there is an ulterior motive. Hard to imagine a Chicago political guy not having other motives.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on June 28, 2011, 02:02:11 PM
AceOfSpades posts on this today. (http://minx.cc/?post=318162) Ace links to a post at Paterico that lists 13 Factual Errors (http://patterico.com/2011/06/28/thirteen-clear-factual-errors-in-richard-stengel’s-essay-on-the-constitution-and-i-am-looking-for-your-help/) with the article. We got a few of them.

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The Constitution does not limit the Federal Government.
The Constitution is not law.
The Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment emancipated the slaves.
The Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment granted the right to vote to African Americans.
The original Constitution declared that black people were to be counted as three-fifths of a person.
That the original, unamended Constitution prohibited women from voting.
Inter arma enim silent leges translates as “in time of war, the Constitution is silent.”
The War Powers Act allows the president to unilaterally wage war for sixty days.
We have only declared war five times.
Alexander Hamilton wanted a king for America.
Social Security is a debt within the meaning of Section Four of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Naturalization depends on your birth.
The Obamacare mandate is a tax.


From Paterico's piece:


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Late last week, I fisked Richard Stengel’s Time Magazine cover story  “One Document, Under Seige” (update: click here for the one page version) but it deserves more discussion.  I consider it nothing less than a journalistic scandal that this piece was (1) a cover story, (2) written by their Managing Editor, (3) who serves in an organization dedicated to teaching other journalists about the Constitution, and yet it is rife with factual errors, including many that are obvious simply by reading the Constitution.

Great article at Paterico. He goes on to do a detailed analysis of each factual error.

Oh, yeah...at the end of the article the author requests our help to try (in vain) to get a retraction from Time.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: Weisshaupt on June 28, 2011, 04:24:18 PM

Great article at Paterico. He goes on to do a detailed analysis of each factual error.

Darn- he didn't get to " no idea of germ theory or antibiotics."

Right, they din't know about germs or antibiotics  but they got small pox innoculations
A special form of aggressively stupid.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 28, 2011, 05:37:10 PM

Yes, earlier Jefferson had to slip into PA to get his.

Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: hemm on June 28, 2011, 07:27:31 PM
been busy but I thought that thread title had my name all over it........til I saw what it was......

all kidding aside, Trap, I hope you are ok after wading through "Time". I wouldn't line a bird cage with it if the birds had diarrhea. Even diarrhea deserves better.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on July 11, 2011, 12:59:30 PM
LINK (http://biggovernment.com/aworthing/2011/07/11/stengel-gate-update-the-american-constitution-society-embarrasses-itself-for-richard-stengel/)

The above link is to a BigGovernment piece about how the American Constitution Society is falling on a sword for the Time author/moron.

The ACS seems to operate under the Humpty Dumpty principle:

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“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

So, they have no trouble at all accepting Stengel's 14 factual errors about the Constitution that he wrote in his little essay.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 11, 2011, 01:01:36 PM
The "American Constitution Society" must advocate for the constitution in the same way "Planned Parenthood" advocates for children.
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: John Florida on July 11, 2011, 01:06:35 PM
God help me!! ::gaah::
Title: Re: When You Are So STUPID You Have To Ask...
Post by: trapeze on July 11, 2011, 01:22:33 PM
The "American Constitution Society" must advocate for the constitution in the same way "Planned Parenthood" advocates for children.

From the article:

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Now, on the right we have the Federalist Society, a group of generally conservative scholars and other interested citizens devoted to the preservation of the Constitution.  So the left decided it needed an organization like this too, so someone formed the American Constitution Society (ACS), meant to be a liberal alternative to the Federalist Society.  (This shouldn’t be confused with the National Constitution Center, which by all appearances is an unrelated entity.)

And you can probably count on the ACS getting federal funding. It's usually a hand in glove thing for lib orgs to get fed grants and other forms of coerced OPM because otherwise they wouldn't get enough funding to stay open.