It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Radical Islam/GWOT => Topic started by: IronDioPriest on January 08, 2014, 01:00:15 PM
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The unnatural alliance between Islam and Leftism can never stand. For the time being, they are united against their common enemy: Western civilization; the United States; Israel.
But sooner or later, the Left will have a reckoning with their allies. Here, we get a sneak peek courtesy of a university presentation in Sweden.
For those who don't know, Sweden is overrun my Muslims, to the point where entire neighborhoods autonomously self-rule with Sharia law. The city of Malmo in particular, is almost entirely lost to the 'Slims.
In this video clip, a university lecturer attempts to play a clip that is... shall we say... unfavorable to Islam. Calamity ensues...
Muslim student go crazy in campus showing anti-Islamic amateur film in Sweden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgG-lmnkOqg#ws)
ETA: I would say this: If American students would stand up against pornographic/homoeroticism in the classroom, I would applaud. I think the 'Slims are actually doing the right thing in this instance. The incompatibilities of the two sides on display is the point in reposting. Vile Leftism is met with strong outraged resistance from its ally, the Muslim.
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From what little I saw of the film my inclination would be to leave the auditorium. There is no legitimate reason why anyone should disrupt the presentation or assault staffers. But what was the bottom line? The slims got their way. They achieved their mission (disruption) and accomplished their goal (forcing their way).
In this regard they acted exactly the way the American left does. No different in any way. Emboldened, they will do more. Presented with little or no opposition and no public outcry they will act out more.
Maybe we're being presented an object lesson?
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Depends on what sort of Left they end up dealing with. Hardcore commies in the mold of Stalin or Mao? Endgame for the 'slims. But if it's the currently prevalent style of hedonistic, effete Left we have in the Western social welfare states? They're going to find themselves forced to worship "an invisible man in the sky" but will be far too terrified to derisively call it "an invisible man in the sky".
The problem with libertarian atheists, with whom I probably agree on most non-theological matters, is that their rejection of religion is universal to the point of refusing to acknowledge any distinction. They owe a cultural debt to Western Christianity that should be acknowledged, instead of taking the easy way out (and, I suspect, the more intellectually flattering way) by saying something to the effect of "all religion is equally stupid" and thinking they have thus elevated oneself above the fray.
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I really don't understand why the left does not see or accept that:
1. Islam does NOT accommodate non Muslims.
Not even a "let live" sort of thing or ignoring your lifestyle. The best Islam provides for non-Muslim is a very second class existence if they cannot get rid of you or you have something they need. Islam goal is a 100% Islamic society. There are to be no minorities. Many middle eastern countries are getting very close to that goal.
2. Islam is political and is a political system as well as a "religion".
Its not compatible with other political or economic systems. It's not compatible with the free enterprise system, democracy, socialism, communism or secularism. There is no negotiation, as most Muslims do not question anything sent to them from "god" or his prophet muhammad. They do not think they are allowed to negotiate changes to god's law. So they don't.
3. Islam does not tolerate ANYTHING it doesn't want when it has control of a society.
When Islam has the numbers, most modern activities will be banned as an insult to Muhammad. No entertainment, no money lending, no modern art. There will be no discussion of those bans, just that all obey. Homosexually in particular will be stamped out. Christian churches will be banned.
I think most get the theme of these points. Its Islam or the highway. There is no "separation" of mosque and state.
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From what little I saw of the film my inclination would be to leave the auditorium. There is no legitimate reason why anyone should disrupt the presentation or assault staffers. But what was the bottom line? The slims got their way. They achieved their mission (disruption) and accomplished their goal (forcing their way).
In this regard they acted exactly the way the American left does. No different in any way. Emboldened, they will do more. Presented with little or no opposition and no public outcry they will act out more.
Maybe we're being presented an object lesson?
Exactly!
And here the Left is doing nothing but holding the door open for them and appeasing and enticing them 24-7! The more this goes on the more the Left will be paralyzed to stop them. And if we try to halt and reverse this situation the Left attacks us as anti-Muslim, racist, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda...so really when it comes down to it what should our play be? It used to be defeat the Left and then solve the problems, but the feckless and utterly useless GOP has corrupted that remedy and made it impossible. What to do? See, this is where my "Fukc them, sit back and watch it all burn" mechanism kicks in.
What to do? I am open to ideas. And any idea with a timeframe longer than 2-3 years is probably moot.
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This is why I refer to Leftism as a form of cultural AIDS. It weakens the body of its host, saps the host's nutrients and commandeers the host's mechanisms for its own purposes. The host then becomes weak and vulnerable to opportunistic invaders that would have normally been brushed aside.
Should Western Civilization somehow manage to survive this fetish it has with suicidality, the lesson is that when it comes to Leftism and Islam there is no "live and let live", there is no mutual understanding, there can be no cohabitation, and this lesson will have to be incorporated into new legal frameworks.
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Good analogy, pretty much covers my own opinion.
Need to apply radical chemotherapy on the host ASAP.
Won't be much of a host left though I'm affraid...
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Good analogy, pretty much covers my own opinion.
Need to apply radical chemotherapy on the host ASAP.
Won't be much of a host left though I'm affraid...
Best one I've come across as well.