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Title: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2011, 07:24:10 AM
This article is poorly written IMO and seems to be just regurgitating previous stuff floating around.  I am of the belief such chatter is designed misinformation geared to influence popular opinion and use it as a lever to steer certain governments to an action they may have contemplated but not felt the need to act on as yet.  Such eye-poking may or may not work, but I am torn between wondering from whom it originates.  Is it The Regime urging the Israeli's on and giving the rest of the world the impression they were working behind the scenes to prevent any action or is it Israel goading The Regime to help or get the hell out of the way because they're going in whether or not they like it?  Given The Regime's hostility toward Israel I am more inclined to believe the latter.  There seems to be some cross-chatter between Israel and the US but I think in general Israeli patience is wearing thin and the issue is to be brought to a head sooner rather than later.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4141689,00.html (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4141689,00.html)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on November 01, 2011, 08:33:50 AM
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The US administration is now bent on exercising more pressure on Tehran in order to dissuade Israel from this path, the source said.
 
Washington is therefore pressing China and Russia who are currently opposed to the publication of the IAEA report. The report may cause embarrassment to both countries who are strongly against harsher sanctions on Iran.
 
According to the US official, it is possible that the report, coupled with the exposure of the US evaluation of Israeli potential to strike Iran, will encourage Russia and China to support the US initiative to aggravate penal measures against Tehran.

First, I thought Iran was after nuclear power, not a weapon.  (Yeah, right.)  When did that consensus find its way to reality?

Second, China and Russia are going to be embarrassed by publication of a truthful report?  Because ...... they've been upholding the "nuclear power" lie, because they've been helping Iran and will be outed?

China/Russia and "embarrassed" -- these things do not compute.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2011, 09:46:49 AM
Noise...left hand/right hand trickeration.  Both have profited from proliferating this technology, that is no secret.  Embarrassed?  Pah, proud whores for anybody John with a fat wallet!  They pay lip service only to nonproliferation and use the international agreements and system to only further their own ends...if the US operated this way, these UN pukes would be screaming bloody murder.

Another reason international agreements aren't worth the paper their printed on.

The bully principle keeps other nations from speaking out, fearing their enemy nation may be next in line to gain a technology that could be used against them, and in the case of existing powers it is fear of antagonizing a fellow nuclear member.

The exploiters further victimize the fearful.

Obama has made us fearful, hence his reliance upon negotiation and international efforts...the cowards refuge...a refuge of smoke and mirrors!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: jpatrickham on November 01, 2011, 09:50:13 AM
Israel must feel a little like Great Britain felt in 1940 after the fall of France. At this time, they surely can't feel comfortable with the current US President. He is openly hostile to Israel and his agenda is written all over his face. In that agenda, I personally don't think his plans include the welfare of the Jewish State.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2011, 09:56:03 AM
Fair is fair...my plans don't consider the welfare of Obama or any of his minions...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Sectionhand on November 01, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
It's amazing how much mileage Russia and China get out of doing next to nothing in the region while we , on the other hand , get nowhere while spending a fortune !
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2011, 10:13:15 AM
Well, if the roles were reversed we would be selling them arms and nuclear technology...not sure I would want that, but the fact that these two clowns can do it and we get beat up for being the world's policeman goes to show it is both easier and cheaper to be a whore than a cop.  In the end though things usually don't go well for whores...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
And it heats up...

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552 (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/iran-nuclear-weapons-programme (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/iran-nuclear-weapons-programme)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 02, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
I think I heard today that Israel has test fired a missile that can reach out and touch Iran. I caught the last part of it so I won't say it's gospel. But I'm pretty sure that's what I heard.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 02, 2011, 03:50:24 PM

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Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2011, 07:21:09 AM
How many hits for China selling missiles and arms to Iran?

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/2/inside-the-ring-308062640/?page=all#pagebreak (http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/2/inside-the-ring-308062640/?page=all#pagebreak)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 03, 2011, 10:08:26 AM

347,000 results

Quote

Most of the weapons transfers involved sales of Chinese anti-ship cruise missiles, including C-802 missiles that China promised the United States in 1997 would not be exported to Iran.


For years, Gertz keeps writing this stuff, and the Times keeps publishing it.
Then the gov forms a million dollar commission and is shocked to discover
information Gertz published a year ago.


Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 03, 2011, 10:26:40 AM
Promises, promises!

 ::)

Only a fool would trust a commie!

Or another commie...

 ::)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: jpatrickham on November 03, 2011, 11:49:20 AM
Israel and Iran Nearing Point of No Return

Thursday, 03 November 2011 05:51 J. D. Longstreet    


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"When US military forces leave Iraq next month, Israel’s door to Iran will swing wide open.  Iraqi airspace will be available for Israel’s air force for the first time since US troops invaded Iraq.  Tensions have been ramping up between the two government’s for the past year, or so, especially since Obama’s announcement that US forces would leave Iraq next month.

As a police officer many, many, decades ago, I learned, first hand, that some people just don’t know when to shut up.  Many times a police officer will find that he has to separate two people shouting threats at each other.  While one calms down the other continues, even after being warned multiple times to be quiet, shouting epithets, curses, and threats at his former antagonist.  More often that not, the loud-mouth finds him/herself face down on the ground, with his hands cuffed behind him, and on his way to jail.  As we indicated, some people just cannot grasp that there is a time to shut one’s mouth -- and keep it shut.

Such, it would seem, is Mr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran.  He continues yammering when he should simmer down.  One must consider the possibility that he is attempting to convince himself (more than anyone else) that Iran can destroy Israel. Ahmadinejad is on the brink of a rude awakening. He is about to talk himself into a thrashing of biblical proportions.

On the other hand Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, has had more than enough of Mr. Ahmadinejad’s threats and posturing as well as Iran’s arming of proxy troops in nations surrounding Israel.  For Netanyahu -- it is put up or shut up time for Iran."

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011110314874/editorial/us-opinion-and-editorial/israel-and-iran-nearing-point-of-no-return.html?

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 03, 2011, 12:35:04 PM

Boom boom boom boom   ::rockets::
                                                         Hey hey hey hey   ::danceban::  
                                                                                                         Oh oh Achmed it ain't your day                 ::jihadnanner::

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on November 03, 2011, 12:39:20 PM
Bomb, bomb, bomb,

Bomb, bomb Iran ............
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 03, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
Bomb, bomb, bomb,

Bomb, bomb Iran ............

You're such a romantic.

Vince Vance& the Valiants Bomb Iran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVTSHeL6Xo#)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on November 03, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
 ::cool::

Thanks, CO; never knew who performed that.

And, yes, I yam a romantic.   ::curtsy4::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: jpatrickham on November 03, 2011, 01:14:08 PM
Bomb, bomb, bomb,

Bomb, bomb Iran ............

While we are using precious Jet Fuel, may as well visit Pakistan too. With two you get egg roll! ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: jpatrickham on November 08, 2011, 01:43:30 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Iran Conducting Experiments 'Specific to Nuclear Weapons'



Quote
"U.N.'s nuclear watchdog reports Iran is conducting secret experiments whose sole purpose can only be the development of nuclear weapons."

More headlines from FoxNews.com:
http://email.foxnews.com/t?ctl=166A7:551F40EA9E802BA7CAE73379754A8005& (http://email.foxnews.com/t?ctl=166A7:551F40EA9E802BA7CAE73379754A8005&)


KABOOM! ::laserkill::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
Wow, I'm shocked, SHOCKED I say!

/

Uhh, well duh!  Welcome to the real world you dumbass UN clown!

 ::gaah::

Let the bombing commence!

Bomb, bomb, bomb,

Bomb, bomb Iran ............

I love that tune!

 ;D
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 10, 2011, 07:07:07 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059462/UN-report-Iran-IS-trying-build-nuclear-bomb-warns-William-Hague.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059462/UN-report-Iran-IS-trying-build-nuclear-bomb-warns-William-Hague.html)

 ::)

Ssshhhhhh!  Let them plan quietly!

 ::stirpot::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on November 10, 2011, 05:52:44 PM
The effect of the Holocaust on the Jewish people cannot be overstated. Six million Jews were killed by Hitler and his vile Jew hating thugs. Six million. That is like destroying all the Jews living in Israel now. There is not a Jewish person that has not been affected in some way by the Holocaust. Because of this Israel cannot ever again afford to ignore a threat that is aimed to destroy its people. The hatred that the Muslims hold toward the Jewish people cannot be fully understood on any rational level either. I am convinced it is a supernatural hatred perpetrated by Satan to destroy Gods Chosen people and God’s plan for Israel.

This video is just one example of the irrational Jewish hatred that is evident.

The shocking video Muslims don't want you to see!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4#)

That is why I believe Israel will try to rid Iran’s nuclear thereat by any means necessary even if it means calamitous retaliation by their vile enemies. The question for me that I cannot answer will America help Israel during their time of need or will obama and his administration turn their back on them.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 10, 2011, 08:26:22 PM
 Magnum were all with Israel and will support what ever they decide.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 10, 2011, 08:33:35 PM

Perry wants to nuke 'em.
Cain wants to noose 'em.
Romney wants to debate 'em.
Paul wants to hold hands with 'em. and
gNewt wants..., wait, what day is it?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 13, 2011, 02:22:57 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8886543/Israel-refuses-to-tell-US-its-Iran-intentions.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8886543/Israel-refuses-to-tell-US-its-Iran-intentions.html)

Who but a complete imbecile could fail to see why Israel doesn't need to tell Obama jack-squat about their intentions and when or if they will strike.  The Obama Regime is an enemy of Israel, period.  Obama, Russia, the effing international community can all go screw themselves!

Go get 'em Bibi!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 13, 2011, 04:49:39 PM

He'd hold a press conference.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 13, 2011, 05:47:55 PM

He'd hold a press conference.


 After the fact??
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 13, 2011, 05:54:43 PM

Sno, as soon as he found out,  he'd be
running for the first mic he could find.


wouldn't be water running down his leg
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 14, 2011, 06:44:37 AM
He means Obama JF, he'd spill the beans before Israel acts is what he's saying.  Either that or he'd immediately denounce the act and blather on and on about how hard he tried to get the Israeli's to stop, Bibi is crazy, all the Jews are lusting for blood, yadda yadda yadda....

Bibi is doing the right thing, all Obama wants to do is bully the Israeli's into capitulation on all fronts so Duh Wun can claim his birthright as peacemaker!

 ::puke::

 ::gaah::

Bibi has nothing to gain by going out of his way to tell us jack squat, as long as that Jew-hating bastard is in the White House...all he has to say is "you'll know it when it happens...just stay the hell out of our way"!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 14, 2011, 07:39:01 AM
Perhaps this is accelerating the timetables.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2011/11/12/38/0401000000AEN20111112002600315F.HTML (http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2011/11/12/38/0401000000AEN20111112002600315F.HTML)

Hopefully, all the foreign interlopers assisting the Persians get sent to hell at the same time!

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 14, 2011, 02:15:42 PM
Quote
Hundreds of North Korean nuclear and missile experts
have been collaborating with their Iranian counterparts ...

We need to have some sort of conciliatory meeting with
these peaceful people in order to facilitate a more
comprehensive understanding of their grievances and what
we should to do to ameliorate them.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 14, 2011, 02:41:16 PM
Quote
Hundreds of North Korean nuclear and missile experts
have been collaborating with their Iranian counterparts ...

We need to have some sort of conciliatory meeting with
these peaceful people in order to facilitate a more
comprehensive understanding of their grievances and what
we should to do to ameliorate them.


Channeling Obama now are ya?!

 ::puke::

Quick, call a Priest!  Scratch that, get an Exorcist, CO is in deep kimchi!!!   ::speechless::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Damn_Lucky on November 14, 2011, 05:00:00 PM

Perry wants to nuke 'em.
Cain wants to noose 'em.
Romney wants to debate 'em.
Paul wants to hold hands with 'em. and
gNewt wants..., wait, what day is it?

::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Damn_Lucky on November 14, 2011, 05:05:10 PM
The time for talk is over, stand up or get knocked down! ::USA::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 15, 2011, 07:42:18 AM
The Persians will feel it soon!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2011, 08:43:52 AM
More calls for Persian smackdown...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/149883 (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/149883)

We do risk other gulf nations going balls out for nuclear capability if the Persians aren't dealt with...otherwise they would become the bully of the region.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on November 27, 2011, 12:26:53 AM
Quote
Link (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/iran-to-hit-turkey-if-nuclear-program-targeted-by-israel-u-s-general-says-1.397862)

THREAT: Iran to hit Turkey if nukes targeted by Israel, US...


Hey, is that a promise?

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 27, 2011, 12:28:32 PM
He means Obama JF, he'd spill the beans before Israel acts is what he's saying.  Either that or he'd immediately denounce the act and blather on and on about how hard he tried to get the Israeli's to stop, Bibi is crazy, all the Jews are lusting for blood, yadda yadda yadda....

Bibi is doing the right thing, all Obama wants to do is bully the Israeli's into capitulation on all fronts so Duh Wun can claim his birthright as peacemaker!

 ::puke::

 ::gaah::

Bibi has nothing to gain by going out of his way to tell us jack squat, as long as that Jew-hating bastard is in the White House...all he has to say is "you'll know it when it happens...just stay the hell out of our way"!


 I meant for BIBIB to hold a presser after the fact. Te Obama noffin.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: CatholicCrusader on November 27, 2011, 03:28:50 PM
The effect of the Holocaust on the Jewish people cannot be overstated. Six million Jews were killed by Hitler and his vile Jew hating thugs. Six million. That is like destroying all the Jews living in Israel now. There is not a Jewish person that has not been affected in some way by the Holocaust. Because of this Israel cannot ever again afford to ignore a threat that is aimed to destroy its people. The hatred that the Muslims hold toward the Jewish people cannot be fully understood on any rational level either. I am convinced it is a supernatural hatred perpetrated by Satan to destroy Gods Chosen people and God’s plan for Israel.

This video is just one example of the irrational Jewish hatred that is evident.

The shocking video Muslims don't want you to see!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4#)

That is why I believe Israel will try to rid Iran’s nuclear thereat by any means necessary even if it means calamitous retaliation by their vile enemies. The question for me that I cannot answer will America help Israel during their time of need or will obama and his administration turn their back on them.


My Lord. What a terrible terrible video. Well, I have said it before: Islam and Nazism are two sides of the same hate-filled anti-Semitic coin
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 28, 2011, 08:01:18 AM
Iran: "We'll fire 150,000 missiles at Israel if attacked"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4153840,00.html (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4153840,00.html)

Uh huh, and how many drop into the sea or crash in Iraq, Jordan or Syria?  149,900?

Keep talking, Persian fool!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 28, 2011, 06:47:03 PM
Iran: "We'll fire 150,000 missiles at Israel if attacked"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4153840,00.html (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4153840,00.html)

Uh huh, and how many drop into the sea or crash in Iraq, Jordan or Syria?  149,900?

Keep talking, Perian fool!

 ::mooning::

 What no mention of "Rivers Of Blood"??
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 28, 2011, 07:06:34 PM
Iran: "We'll fire 150,000 missiles at Israel if attacked"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4153840,00.html (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4153840,00.html)

Uh huh, and how many drop into the sea or crash in Iraq, Jordan or Syria?  149,900?

Keep talking, Persian fool!

 ::mooning::

 What no mention of "Rivers Of Blood"??

A mere oversight...

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 28, 2011, 07:08:57 PM
And hopefully there is more of this...

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4076.new.html#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4076.new.html#new)

...before the Big Show starts!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 02, 2011, 09:24:56 AM
More Persian explosions.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/australian-reports-second-explosion-iranian-city-isfahan#comment-1938493 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/australian-reports-second-explosion-iranian-city-isfahan#comment-1938493)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on December 02, 2011, 10:19:08 AM

::spy vs spy:: (http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-end/the-war-against-iran-s-nuclear-program-has-already-begun-1.399138)

Two weeks ago, a huge blast ripped through a Revolutionary Guards military base 40 kilometers west of Tehran. The explosion could be heard as far away as the capital. Dozens of people were killed, including the head of Iran's missile development project, General Hassan Tehrani Moqaddam. This week, there was a powerful explosion in Isfahan, Iran's third-largest city, which has a uranium conversion plant on its outskirts. It is not yet clear what was damaged in the blast.

These incidents involved three key elements of Iran's nuclear program. The first is

It's About Liberty Link's Views from a conservative (http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-end/the-war-against-iran-s-nuclear-program-has-already-begun-1.399138)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on December 02, 2011, 10:25:55 AM
Oh, excellent find, CO.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 02, 2011, 11:29:25 AM
Hopefully they are buzzing around like confused ants...keep stiring the nest!

 ::stirpot::

 ::danceban::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 05, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Looking more and more like covert action, heh, The Institute know doubt is having lots of fun!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-bomb-20111205,0,7550482.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-bomb-20111205,0,7550482.story)

I am guessing this softening up is a prelude to much bigger efforts yet to come...

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: BMG on December 06, 2011, 07:05:39 AM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/has-the-war-with-iran-already-begun--20111204?page=1 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/has-the-war-with-iran-already-begun--20111204?page=1)

Quote
Two incidents that occurred on Sunday—Iran’s claim of a shoot-down of a U.S. drone, and an explosion outside the British embassy in Bahrain—may have been unrelated. But they appear to add to growing evidence that an escalating covert war by the West is under way against Iran, and that Tehran is retaliating with greater intensity than ever.

Asked whether the United States, in cooperation with Israel, was now engaged in a covert war against Iran’s nuclear program that may include the Stuxnet virus, the blowing-up of facilities and the assassination or kidnapping of scientists, one recently retired U.S. official privy to up-to-date intelligence would not deny it.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 06, 2011, 07:22:19 AM
There is nothing to gain with admission and everything to gain by keeping the Persian's guessing.

Want them sufficiently dazed and confused...desperate people make foolish mistakes and thus make themselves easier targets.

 ::danceban::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on December 06, 2011, 01:47:53 PM

This activity, one would suppose, is being conducted by the CIA.  Good.
It was the CIA that conducted activities against the USSR, and you know
where they are boy, no more USS, no more USS... I digress.

They also were responsible for our success in Afganistan.  Let 'em go
and kept the Smoker in Chief out of it.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 06, 2011, 02:13:28 PM
With The Regime in charge, you know they'll screw this up.  No use going through this exercise without full regime change, and what that means is the people of Iran who yearn to shed themselves of this psychotic theocracy will be thrown under the bus and suffer the most most the dust settles...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 06, 2011, 02:14:26 PM
Can't beleive how many posters at ZH are flower-sporting pansies...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-moves-forces-war-alert?page=2#comment-1952248 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-moves-forces-war-alert?page=2#comment-1952248)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 12, 2011, 08:12:30 AM
More Persian chest-beating...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-military-practising-straights-hormuz-closure#comment-1969755 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-military-practising-straights-hormuz-closure#comment-1969755)

...and I think that is all it is...

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on December 12, 2011, 04:04:45 PM
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Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2011, 07:52:23 AM
More "softening up"...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/another-mysterious-fire-breaks-out-at-refinery-in-isfahan-iran/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/another-mysterious-fire-breaks-out-at-refinery-in-isfahan-iran/)

 ::whoohoo::

And this article may be of interest to some, good insight into internal state of Iran.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/iran/articles/20111221.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/iran/articles/20111221.aspx)

Funny how the Persian thus replicate some of the worst practices of histories villians, eh?  Evil knows evil.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on December 21, 2011, 11:06:27 AM
 [blockquote] http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/12/20/wow-theyre-still-blowing-up-iran/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/12/20/wow-theyre-still-blowing-up-iran/)
          Two more explosions today.  One at the big refinery in Isfahan, the other at the very important Revolutionary Guards base in Kerman, which is the headquarters for the RG’s operations in the East (think Afghanistan, etc.).

I don’t have casualty figures yet, but the Kerman blast was a biggie.   [/blockquote]                
Isfahan is more than a two hundred mile drive from Kerman, that's icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 21, 2011, 11:30:30 AM
Would like to see more mayhem in outlying areas to the south, stretch those Persian assets to the max!

 ::danceban::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 26, 2011, 11:33:54 AM
Them Persian's is getting jittery!

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/12/201112256111744890.html (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/12/201112256111744890.html)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217822.html (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217822.html)

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/26/world/meast/iran-navy-helicopter/index.html?section=cnn_latest (http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/26/world/meast/iran-navy-helicopter/index.html?section=cnn_latest)

Good, hope they get ubber paranoid and stretched to the breaking point, could be a heck of a new year coming!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Sectionhand on December 27, 2011, 02:19:08 AM
I wonder when the Iranian Navy plans to switch from Evinrude and Mercury to nuclear .
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 27, 2011, 06:56:03 AM
I dunno SH, but I am sure looking forward to their change from earth to hell!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 02, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
I dunno, looks short-range to me and not terribly fast...I think even an older Phalanx system can knock these ducks out of the sky.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/iran-test-fires-advanced-anti-ship-missile-in-straits-of-hormuz/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/iran-test-fires-advanced-anti-ship-missile-in-straits-of-hormuz/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 07, 2012, 12:27:24 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-iea-contingency-idUSTRE8051FV20120106 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-iea-contingency-idUSTRE8051FV20120106)

Releasing stockpiles isn't the answer to Iranian threats regarding the Strait of Hormuz, that's like giving a band aid to someone who just had their leg shot off.  So far I think all this Persian sabre-rattling is all bark and no bite...I think they're trying to forestall sanctions while the prepare for an Israeli strike.  But if they want do go full stupid the rest of the world is prepared.  The Stennis is on station and the Vinson should be there soon and the if not already, the Lincoln is in nearby Thailand and we always have 2-3 carriers surge-ready, as well as two LHD's on station with accompanying screening vessels.  The Brits have one of their top line destroyers coming with another on the way and stuff can come from air and through the Suez pretty quickly, as well as from bases in the area.  If the Persians mess with the flow of oil they are cutting their own throats, and their domestic refinery capacity is poor and they have zero chance of surviving any kind of military confrontation.

The best thing (something which even this Reuters article mentions) we can do is help the UAE finish their Abu Dhabi pipeline by passing the strait.  Together with the Saudi pipeline to the Red Sea, a significant amount of oil can be transited beyond the strait and away from Persian meddling.

Of course getting The Regime here at home removed would go a long way toward sane policy too, get some drill-baby-drill action geared up among other things!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 07, 2012, 01:06:58 PM

Staging of assets, very good. 
Soon it will be time for some follow through.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on January 07, 2012, 07:26:17 PM

Staging of assets, very good. 
Soon it will be time for some follow through.


 The timing will be just before the election for max effect.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: AmericanPatriot on January 07, 2012, 08:53:14 PM
What about the Chinese and Russians?
(Have not read the whole thread and it may have been addressed)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 07, 2012, 10:40:33 PM

Russians have finished building the plant and probably have collected
monies owed so they don't have an investment to cover.  Don't think
the Chinese have a big investment there.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Sectionhand on January 07, 2012, 10:52:35 PM
What about the Chinese and Russians?
(Have not read the whole thread and it may have been addressed)

They like seeing us off balance but as far as risking war with us over Iran ? ... Don't think so .
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 07, 2012, 11:00:05 PM

You...you mean they aren't interested in the twelfth imam?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on January 08, 2012, 10:22:43 AM

You...you mean they aren't interested in the twelfth imam?


 Hell no!! They are interested in being a pain in the ass not getting killed. All this is si showing other arabs what a paper tiger we are and how brve they are,till they start bleeding all over the place and then the 12th imam will come back to inspire more stupidity.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Stike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2012, 06:59:41 AM
What about the Chinese and Russians?
(Have not read the whole thread and it may have been addressed)

The Russian's will raise holy hell...but in the end they'll welcome the distraction...maybe they'll beat the piss out of one of their uppity former Soviet Bloc countries...and then enjoy the financial rewards of rebuilding contracts in Iran.

The ChiCom's also will raise hell, and reap more in arms sales to their erstwhile Persian partners.

Neither are in a position to militarily get involved with anything threatening the worlds oil supply, although the Russians would exploit the run up in price on world markets.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on January 10, 2012, 07:20:51 PM
I am to the point to say heck with what the world thinks with respect to Israel. Israel has God.

miracles God performed in Israel Against All Odds Part 1-13. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go43SlqTMj8#)

If only my Jewish brothers and sisters would just bend the knee and ask for Yeshua Jesus help ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 11, 2012, 06:59:39 AM
Israel's internal character can both generate admiration and consternation in me.  They are the only free government in the region and have been since their inception and they allow open participation in their political process and have several Arab representatives in the Knesset.  They all know they are surrounded by enemies and yet secular types, what we back in the states might characterize as run of the mill democrats, seem to flourish.  I find it odd that any sizeable dovish elements could thrive and yet they do.  Most times she does the right thing, and she is fortunate to have a good leader in Bibi.  But having the US turn her back on her and side more often with her enemies has to be tough and I know it is beyond distasteful to me personally.  But I have no doubt God is with her and those who support her.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 11, 2012, 07:52:44 AM
Another dead Iranian nuclear scientist.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45953703/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45953703/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/)

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: trapeze on January 11, 2012, 08:08:45 AM
We owe Israel and the Mossad big time for carrying our water on Iran during our sad "islamic president" phase.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on January 11, 2012, 09:13:30 AM
We rescued two Iranian ships from pirates (!) in as many weeks.  Waiting for the gratitude in 3 .. 2 ..
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on January 11, 2012, 10:39:01 AM
We rescued two Iranian ships from pirates (!) in as many weeks.  Waiting for the gratitude in 3 .. 2 ..


     ::whatgives:: ::smallestviolin:: ::hanging::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 11, 2012, 11:26:28 AM
Yeah, don't hold 'yer breath!

And yeah, we owe The Institute big-time!

 ::hat-tip::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 14, 2012, 10:22:30 AM
Send in the Dolphins!

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/01/militarys-weapon-against-iranian-mines-high-tech-dolphins/47384/ (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/01/militarys-weapon-against-iranian-mines-high-tech-dolphins/47384/)

If the ALF types bitch, strap magnets to their asses and drop them in the strait!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 16, 2012, 08:30:07 AM
Things are heating up.

Obama continues to tork Israel off and blame it for the worlds ills, it would never occur to the SCoaMF that she needs to protect herself by any means necessary.

And as far as our reaction to Iran, two carriers in the 5th Fleet is nothing new, the Lincoln is in the S.China Sea after enjoying a layover in Thailand, if she steams west then perhaps things get serious for us.

http://www.debka.com/article/21652/ (http://www.debka.com/article/21652/)

Stymie's Cold War with Israel gets warmer -

http://www.debka.com/article/21650/ (http://www.debka.com/article/21650/)

Hopefully Bibi told the SCoaMF to bugger off and slammed the phone down.

Meanwhile, Stymie appears content to rip Israel and sit on his hands while Iran marches toward a possible 1KT underground nuclear test sometime this year.

http://www.debka.com/article/21635/ (http://www.debka.com/article/21635/)

Yeah, that will have a positive impact upon everything, eh?!

 ::facepalm::

Interesting tidbit here about The Institute using Kurdish recruits to cause mayhem in Iran.  Perhaps they had a hand in whacking their scientists?!  If so, well done!  Either way, keep going after those Persians!  Since Stymie has no problem letting them go nuclear, Israel is the only one that can do anything.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 18, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
Iran threat -

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/01/18/iran-threatens-us-persian-gulf-cities-with-missile-attacks (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/01/18/iran-threatens-us-persian-gulf-cities-with-missile-attacks)

Cordesman is heavily cited, he has been around a while, some may remember him as far back as GW-I or before, he can be a master of the obvious as well as over/understate some issues, but in general the article is an OK read.

He is dead right on one thing, Iran does anything stupid in the straits or launch any attacks, they are cutting of their own heads.

More typical (and nauseating) Rooskie posturing.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Russia-says-strike-on-Iran-would-be-catastrophe/articleshow/11539555.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Russia-says-strike-on-Iran-would-be-catastrophe/articleshow/11539555.cms)

Screw 'em!  We'll treat them like they treated us over Georgia...tell them to fvck off!

If the Persians are insane enough to start something, I seriously doubt even Stymie can hold back the stick.  There is some rumor flying around (based on a conservative member of the Iranian parliament, so I see no credence in it to link it) that Stymie supposedly sent a letter chastising the Persians and requesting to open a dialogue...the latter reeks of his naive stance during campaign '08, the former sounds nothing like his typical behavior towards Islamic nations...so at present I see no option but to call BS on this story...sounds more like Persian posturing to justify whatever stupid ideas they may have in the works!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 18, 2012, 08:24:59 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-iran-claims-subs-can-easily-target-u-s-carriers-in-persian-gulf/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-iran-claims-subs-can-easily-target-u-s-carriers-in-persian-gulf/)

Jeesh!  Iranian Admiral?  What does that qualification look like?

Question #1 - Hate the Great Satan?

Question #2 - Want to wipe Israel off the map?

Question #3 - You know what water is and what floats and what sinks?

Question #4 - Do you have a 12 word vocabulary?

Question #5 - Do you have your own life preserver?

Question # 6 - Do you have your own goat?

Question # 7 - What is your favorite method of beheading?

Question #8 - Do torpedoes remind you of your childhood?

Question # 9 - Can you follow orders no matter how stupid or suicidal they may appear to you?

Congratulations, Admiral!  Here's you keys to the officers shower room!  Don't bend over for the soap!

 ::)

Seriously, who do these jokers think they are dealing with?  The Yemeni navy?

These idiots have no clue what our own attack subs are capable of (there is always at least one in any task force, and we have two carrier groups on station) and they are not prepared for the ASW elements we can bring to bear from sea or air.

Persians!

 ::doublebird::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 18, 2012, 08:52:08 PM

They have no clue but they have got a good handle on the CIC.

Back to the muzzies and the Jews, (did I read it here?), some Saudi's hacked
El Al and shut their computers down so the IDF hacked the Saudi stock exchange
and shut it down with a love letter enclosed saying they will treat hacking as a
terrorist act and the next time they will shut down things for a week or a month
maybe.

And the beat goes on...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on January 18, 2012, 09:23:42 PM
Question # 10 - Do you feeeeel that you can keep yourself alive long enough to sacrifice yourself for allah?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 19, 2012, 07:14:01 AM
Question # 10 - Do you feeeeel that you can keep yourself alive long enough to sacrifice yourself for allah?

Heh, how'd I miss the obvious?!

 ::facepalm::

Good catch! 

 ::hat-tip::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2012, 08:06:35 AM
Heating up again.

Lincoln transited the strait, Vinson in the gulf and the Enterprise is in Atlantic steaming east and due to transit the strait in March.

http://www.debka.com/article/21671/ (http://www.debka.com/article/21671/)

Fairly meaningless assets freezes -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/currency-wars-iran-banned-trading-gold-and-silver (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/currency-wars-iran-banned-trading-gold-and-silver)

EU agrees to embargo Iranian oil, not that that cannot be circumvented either -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9032261/European-Union-agrees-on-Iran-oil-embargo.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9032261/European-Union-agrees-on-Iran-oil-embargo.html)

Iran says it will close the strait -

http://rt.com/news/iran-close-strait-hormuz-embargo-455/ (http://rt.com/news/iran-close-strait-hormuz-embargo-455/)

Go ahead, I dare ya, Persian punks, slit your own throats, really, I won't mind!

Good link to see current merchant traffic in the strait...I assume if a tanker has been set ablaze by Iran, the ship icon will have flames indicated -

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?level0=100 (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?level0=100)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: trapeze on January 23, 2012, 08:08:55 AM
I would be looking for the Iran refinery icon with flames.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2012, 08:13:48 AM
Yeah, followed by their nuclear sites.

Get ready to hear the Rooskies and Chi-Com's bitch and moan.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 24, 2012, 11:42:21 AM
Here we go!

"Hello, Iran?  Yeah, America here, got a present for ya.  Meet Mr. MOP!"

"Who's Mr. MOP?"

"Look up!"

"Ooh, shishkabob!"

 ;D

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/want-to-see-what-a-massive-30000-pound-penetrator-bomb-can-do/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/want-to-see-what-a-massive-30000-pound-penetrator-bomb-can-do/)

Too bad Stymie won't do it, hope we sold some to Israel!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 24, 2012, 12:21:45 PM

Where's the vid of it busting buried Iranian nuclear facilities?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 25, 2012, 07:38:37 AM
It's still in production.

 ;D
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 28, 2012, 07:25:02 PM
Link on USS Ponce - retrofitted commando "mother ship".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-wants-commando-mother-ship/2012/01/27/gIQA66rGWQ_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-wants-commando-mother-ship/2012/01/27/gIQA66rGWQ_story.html)

Click on the Photo "Gallery" link on the left of the article, cool pics there.

Been many many moons since I've been in that area, strait is 20 miles wide, but the primary shipping lanes (I think there are 2, inbound & outbound) are narrow, for traffic safety reasons, obviously smaller craft involved in any Iranian action can zip in and around so countering mine laying and such makes sense.

Here are maps that gives a picture of the immediate area -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Strait_of_hormuz_full.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Strait_of_hormuz_full.jpg)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/docs/ir655-chart-2888-1580px.html (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/docs/ir655-chart-2888-1580px.html)

Realtime shipping traffic -

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 28, 2012, 07:25:59 PM

Where's the vid of it busting buried Iranian nuclear facilities?

A link -

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203363504577187420287098692.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203363504577187420287098692.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories)

Video coming soon.

 ;D
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on January 28, 2012, 07:47:19 PM
 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 28, 2012, 10:11:37 PM

I'm thinking big bulls eye paint job.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 28, 2012, 10:51:35 PM

Nice links.

http://photos3.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=127361&size=full (http://photos3.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=127361&size=full)
                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                   ;D
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2012, 10:26:53 AM
Whoa!  Is there a lot of tanker traffic in the strait today!  Everybody must be loading up like demons in case some stuff goes down.

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 29, 2012, 10:43:10 AM

They can't stuff many more in that channel.

I bookmarked this site last night, it's a winnner.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2012, 11:04:38 AM
Yeah, it's a pretty cool site.

Far as I know Lincoln is still in Gulf and Vinson in Arabian Sea, with the "commando" platform in process, several Brit and other allied warships in the area.  Place is buzzing.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 29, 2012, 02:13:16 PM
Quote
A link -
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203363504577187420287098692.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203363504577187420287098692.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories)
Video coming soon.
Quote
Reply #92 on: Yesterday at 07:25:02 PM »
   Link on USS Ponce - retrofitted commando "mother ship".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-wants-commando-mother-ship/2012/01/27/gIQA66rGWQ_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-wants-commando-mother-ship/2012/01/27/gIQA66rGWQ_story.html)

Click on the Photo "Gallery" link on the left of the article, cool pics there.

Been many many moons since I've been in that area, strait is 20 miles wide, but the primary shipping lanes (I think there are 2, inbound & outbound) are narrow, for traffic safety reasons, obviously smaller craft involved in any Iranian action can zip in and around so countering mine laying and such makes sense.

Here are maps that gives a picture of the immediate area -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Strait_of_hormuz_full.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Strait_of_hormuz_full.jpg)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/docs/ir655-chart-2888-1580px.html (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/docs/ir655-chart-2888-1580px.html)

Realtime shipping traffic -  http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/)
Quote
Reply #97 on: Today at 10:26:53 AM »
Whoa!  Is there a lot of tanker traffic in the strait today!  Everybody must be loading up like demons in case some stuff goes down. 

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/)   
Quote
Reply #99 on: Today at 11:04:38 AM »
   Yeah, it's a pretty cool site.
Far as I know Lincoln is still in Gulf and Vinson in Arabian Sea, with the "commando" platform in process, several Brit and other allied warships in the area.  Place is buzzing.


Achmed got more than he bargained for.
The international military community is there, also,
to reassure the shipping companies and their insurers.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2012, 03:10:41 PM
Yup, and you can bet the governments are underwriting the insurance companies should anything happen, so a proactive stance is entirely predictable and necessary.

I tell that to the Code Pink Libertarian's at ZeroHedge they'll call me a warmonger and Jew-lover.  Sticks & stones to me, whuppity doh-dah!

Achmed & Co gonna be some sorry Persians soon methinks!

 ;)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 30, 2012, 08:32:15 AM
Heh, everytime carriers move around the Code Pink PaulBots get all up in a froth over forthcoming Armageddon!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/third-aircraft-carrier-group-coming-iran (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/third-aircraft-carrier-group-coming-iran)

I think they actually get upset nothing has happened yet to justify their pansy attitudes toward dirtballs, especially dirtballs belonging to the Cult of Mohammad!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 30, 2012, 10:45:36 AM

My system turns the comment section into a
three word column. Makes my eyes cross.


One commenter brought up this as a distraction from Egypt. 
Thoughts on that this morning reflected on the current
citizens taking refuge at the US embassy there.  The only
remaining steps are for the students to attack and Obuzzer
to surrender.  Deja vue all over again.

Three carrier groups, well, if TSHTF Israel won't have to
worry about those round trip flights.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 30, 2012, 11:35:49 AM
Yeah, if too many comment one after another instead of making a top level response the column width get stupid and I just skip over those morons.

Everytime more than one carrier goes anywhere these goofballs go insane and think Armageddon is imminent!

 ::)

If Israel acts, we (and our allies) are there merely to protect our friends in the region and keep the sea lanes open.  Israel can smack the Persians around as long as they desire.

Have at it!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 31, 2012, 08:04:36 AM
Nothing terribly new, just a public announcement that rest of Gulf states are coordinating efforts to thwart Persian meddling in the region.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/gulf-arabs-plans-against-hormuz-closure-official-004325154.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/gulf-arabs-plans-against-hormuz-closure-official-004325154.html)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 31, 2012, 12:16:29 PM

The article did answer one question about the size of the bottleneck: "...the four-mile-wide (6.4 kilometer) channel...",
that's pretty tight for all those vessels to slide through.

They don't want to talk about their assets, again as SC asked, "would that be Evinrude or Johnson?"

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 01, 2012, 07:49:16 AM

The article did answer one question about the size of the bottleneck: "...the four-mile-wide (6.4 kilometer) channel...",
that's pretty tight for all those vessels to slide through.

They don't want to talk about their assets, again as SC asked, "would that be Evinrude or Johnson?"



The 4 mile wide area comprises the deep channel shipping lanes large ships must transit, the actual narrowest point between land masses is about 20 miles.

As far as Evinrude or Johnson...

(http://www.memri.org/image/9718.JPG)

(http://www.memri.org/image/9725.JPG)


Persian's!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 03, 2012, 03:06:45 PM
Perhaps Bibi told Stymie his timetable, plans and ideas suck and told him to piss off and he'll do it all himself?!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/israel-defense-chief-barak-says-world-understands-need-to-act-against-iran.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/israel-defense-chief-barak-says-world-understands-need-to-act-against-iran.html)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: AlanS on February 04, 2012, 12:37:27 PM
Perhaps Bibi told Stymie his timetable, plans and ideas suck and told him to piss off and he'll do it all himself?!

I think he's brought that up in conversation before.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on February 04, 2012, 09:05:06 PM
Perhaps Bibi told Stymie his timetable, plans and ideas suck and told him to piss off and he'll do it all himself?!

I think he's brought that up in conversation before.

 Somebody has to take the ass by the ears.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: trapeze on February 05, 2012, 10:14:16 PM
Okay, here's something to get you thinking. Yes, it's a WND page (http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/ayatollah-kill-all-jews-annihilate-israel/) but the information is what it is...

Quote
The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people.

The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide.

Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove “this corrupting material. It is a ‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.”

The article, written by Alireza Forghani, a conservative analyst and a strategy specialist in Khamenei’s camp, now is being run on most state-owned conservative sites, including the Revolutionary Guards’ Fars News Agency, showing that the regime endorses this doctrine.

The article goes on to say...

Quote
Under this pre-emptive defensive doctrine, several Ground Zero points of Israel must be destroyed and its people annihilated. Forghani cites the last census by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics that shows Israel has a population of 7.5 million citizens of which a majority of 5.7 million are Jewish. Then it breaks down the districts with the highest concentration of Jewish people, indicating that three cities, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa, contain over 60 percent of the Jewish population that Iran could target with its Shahab 3 ballistic missiles, killing all its inhabitants.

Forghani suggests that Iran’s Sejil missile, which is a two-stage rocket with a trajectory and speed that make it impossible to intercept, should target such Israeli facilities as: the Rafael nuclear plant, which is the main nuclear engineering center of Israel; the Eilun nuclear plant; another Israeli reactor in Nebrin; and the Dimona reactor in the nuclear research center in Neqeb, the most critical nuclear reactor in Israel because it produces 90 percent enriched uranium for Israel’s nuclear weapons.

Other targets, according to the article, include airports and air force bases such as the Sedot Mikha Air Base, which contains Jericho ballistic missiles and is located southwest of the Tel Nof Air Base, where aircraft equipped with nuclear weapons are based. Secondary targets include power plants, sewage treatment facilities, energy resources, and transportation and communication infrastructures.

Finally, Forghani says, Shahab 3 and Ghadr missiles can target urban settlements until the Israelis are wiped out.

Who will make the first move?

And what will the craven Obongo do?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 06, 2012, 07:21:23 AM
Banging the war drums a bit too loudly I think, I think the Persian's are crazy enough to do anything, but I think they think if they are seen as the victim in this then they are free to unleash whatever they want, but if they do a pre-emptive strike they are doing Israel a favor.  Israel doesn't give a damn about international politics when it comes to their survival, so the Persian's are screwed either way.  I don't think all Iranian missles will get through, or be launched undetected, so if they start something Israel will be all too willing to respond with everything they have.  The Saudi's would love nothing better than to see Iran crushed, with Syria imploding it would leave them as the regions central player once again.  I would worry about a Muslim Brotherhood dominated Egypt pushing the military to join the fray, it is the only second front that concerns me.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: trapeze on February 06, 2012, 08:32:41 AM
One of them has to make the first move. I honestly do not see another option for them.

Israel cannot wait until Iran has the nukes necessary to destroy them with a first strike. Iran cannot wait until after Israel has launched their offensive to wipe out their nuke manufacturing capacity.

Diplomacy (Obongo's excuse for doing nothing) is not going to work this time. And time is in short supply. It will be this year.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 06, 2012, 11:38:38 AM
Yeah, Obutthole's diplomacy sure came through in spades regarding Syria, eh?  Oops, no it didn't!

 ::)

I think Israel will act first, they have no choice.  But I worry about Egypt, thanks to Obamahole that nation is a wildcard now.  Maybe the military there can stave off disaster, but they are under a lot of pressure, and a coup of MB supporters could radicalize them practically overnight.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 13, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
The Iranian Empire strikes back -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/bombs-target-israeli-diplomats-in-india-georgia-2-injured/2012/02/13/gIQA2kDlAR_print.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/bombs-target-israeli-diplomats-in-india-georgia-2-injured/2012/02/13/gIQA2kDlAR_print.html)

Can't wait to see what The Istitute has in mind for a response.

 ::popcorn::

ETA - Heh:  "Thai police say male suspect, initially identified as Iranian, accidentally blew his own legs off in a series of blasts in the capital"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/14/bangkok-neighbourhood-twin-blasts (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/14/bangkok-neighbourhood-twin-blasts)

Maybe somebody can slip into the hospital and finish him off...

 ;)

Fouind a pic -
(http://thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Saeid-Moradi.jpg)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/iranian-bomber-blows-off-his-own-legs-after-bungled-terror-attack-in-bangkok/saeid-moradi/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/iranian-bomber-blows-off-his-own-legs-after-bungled-terror-attack-in-bangkok/saeid-moradi/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 14, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Lincoln going through strait again, some shadowing by Oran, but that's about it, Iran is not going to do anything, but as usual the PaulBots & Code Pinkos that like to go hysterical at ZH are in panic mode again...their mommies must get sick of them being in their basements...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-patrol-boats-drones-shadow-cvn-72-abraham-lincoln-it-passes-through-straits-hormuz (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-patrol-boats-drones-shadow-cvn-72-abraham-lincoln-it-passes-through-straits-hormuz)

Anyway, the right of free passage continues unmolested.

 ;)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
Is it just me, or when I read this, is this DIA Director not issuing a warning about Iran but a warning to us that an Iranian bomb is a fait acompli and as such we have to adopt to that new reality, as in live with an Iran with the bomb/nothing we can do about it?  WTH?!  It reeks of Obama style defeatism/capitulation!  US Snooze & World Distort is not immune from listing to port, but this is coming from the DIA Director for God's sake!

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/dotmil/2012/02/16/intel-official-iranian-missiles-could-hit-nearby-us-targets-europe (http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/dotmil/2012/02/16/intel-official-iranian-missiles-could-hit-nearby-us-targets-europe)

We are losing it.  Israel is becoming more and more isolated, I've never been so disgusted in the actions of my government.  This is not going to end well, no way, no how.

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on February 16, 2012, 08:36:27 PM
Since obama has taken office he has visited:

Turkey
Iraq
Saudi Arabia
Egypt
Indonesia
Afghanistan

That is just the muslim countries, he has visited 30 countries in all.

However he has yet to visit ISRAEL

"I (God) will bless those who bless you (Israel) and will curse those who curse you"... (Genesis 12:3)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on February 16, 2012, 08:37:59 PM

The only reason Iran can do anything is because we
allow it.  Ø's obsession with Israel and Iran stuffing the
strait with sunken ships fits well with his game plan.

The general's comments are redundant, nothing new, more
kabuki.  This admin is so foolish they don't know where they
are going or what they are going to do.  Submit more than
likely.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2012, 08:53:38 PM
Something tells me Barry knows if he steps onto Israeli soil, a lightning bolt may come from on high and vaporize him.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on February 16, 2012, 09:01:54 PM
Something tells me Barry knows if he steps onto Israeli soil, a lightning bolt may come from on high and vaporize him.

 Talk about a sign from above. ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 19, 2012, 01:44:10 PM
I think everybody pretty much understands the clock is running out, and keeping Obama away from backstabbing Israel is priority number two for Israel, right behind readying their plans!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/weve-got-to-do-the-job-former-netanyahu-chief-of-staff-says-israeli-strike-on-iran-imminent/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/weve-got-to-do-the-job-former-netanyahu-chief-of-staff-says-israeli-strike-on-iran-imminent/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on February 19, 2012, 02:01:42 PM
I think everybody pretty much understands the clock is running out, and keeping Obama away from backstabbing Israel is priority number two for Israel, right behind readying their plans!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/weve-got-to-do-the-job-former-netanyahu-chief-of-staff-says-israeli-strike-on-iran-imminent/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/weve-got-to-do-the-job-former-netanyahu-chief-of-staff-says-israeli-strike-on-iran-imminent/)

 This is the perfect time for Israel to strike. Campaign season!!Lets See those stark differences when it counts.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 20, 2012, 07:10:55 AM
They are deploying more of their "Iron Dome" defense systems, stepping up pressure on DC to the point where The Regime & Britain have to publically call for Israeli patience.  Patience is running out, and the everybody knows it...the Iranians are moving things deeper and deeper underground and getting closer to obtaining enough fissionable material to complete a nuclear weapon.  Sanctions are for cowards and fools, Israel doesn't suffer either very well.  There is very little time left.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.6ef3ef0f8ff2b7a81306fd0c8cadcac4.af1&show_article=1 (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.6ef3ef0f8ff2b7a81306fd0c8cadcac4.af1&show_article=1)

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_IRAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-19-17-23-48 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_IRAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-19-17-23-48)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 20, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
A truly retarded rant...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran)

...ZH gets as loony as Moron.Org or DailyKOkS when they stray from economic issues...

 ::)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: CatholicCrusader on February 20, 2012, 02:04:47 PM
A truly retarded rant...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran)

...ZH gets as loony as Moron.Org or DailyKOkS when they stray from economic issues...

 ::)

If you want to read retarded rants, check this place out: http://www.perspectives.com/forums/index.php (http://www.perspectives.com/forums/index.php)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 20, 2012, 02:42:21 PM
A truly retarded rant...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran)

...ZH gets as loony as Moron.Org or DailyKOkS when they stray from economic issues...

 ::)

If you want to read retarded rants, check this place out: http://www.perspectives.com/forums/index.php (http://www.perspectives.com/forums/index.php)
Perspectives
on everything

Heh, their moniker pretty much highlights the handicap right off the bat!

 ::hysterical::


Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2012, 02:07:41 PM
"Any act by the Zionist regime against Iran will bring about its destruction." - Iranian Deputy Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194444,00.html (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194444,00.html)

Hey Ahmad?  Incoming!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Explosions/Explode-06-june.gif)

 ;D
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: CatholicCrusader on February 27, 2012, 12:57:07 PM
A truly retarded rant...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-consequences-expect-if-us-invades-iran)

...ZH gets as loony as Moron.Org or DailyKOkS when they stray from economic issues...

 ::)

I got banned, surprise surprise.

If you want to read retarded rants, check this place out: http://www.perspectives.com/forums/index.php (http://www.perspectives.com/forums/index.php)
Perspectives
on everything

Heh, their moniker pretty much highlights the handicap right off the bat!

 ::hysterical::



Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 28, 2012, 07:33:02 AM
Israel won't inform Washington prior to a strike on Iran.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ap-source-israel-wont-warn-us-before-iran-strike/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ap-source-israel-wont-warn-us-before-iran-strike/)

Gosh, I wonder why that would be?    ::thinking::

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/MFM/NYT_Warsaw_uprising_editors.gif)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/dems_pearl_harbor.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/IranNukes.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/bowingtoSaudiKing.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/PRESIDENTPANTYWAIST-1.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/1311339616.jpg)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on February 28, 2012, 07:58:00 PM

Sad but true.


                                                                                                                           2076
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 06, 2012, 06:54:12 AM
Did you hear the contrast in statements yesterday?

It was awesome!  Once again Bibi schools the Boy Tyrant, he wasn't buying any of Barry's BS and correctly stated Israel has a right to defend itself and will defend itself.  Basically, he told Barry he can stick his BS where the sun don't shine and we'll do what we have to do, so stay the hell out of my way!

http://freebeacon.com/netanyahu-to-obama-israel-reserves-the-right-to-strike/ (http://freebeacon.com/netanyahu-to-obama-israel-reserves-the-right-to-strike/)

"...loose talk of war..."!  Jeesh, lingo that echoes Code Pinko, Moron.Org, Daily KOokS & PaulBot Town!

The only one who ever engages in "loose talk" is you Obama!  And that Muzzie gasbag BFF of yours Achmedisajerk!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on March 06, 2012, 08:09:12 PM
The scuttle butt I’ve heard is that Prime Minister Netanyahu came to make a final judgment on obama. Apparently Iran is close to moving their nuclear facilities deeper underground where they will be “safe” form any weapon Israel now processes............................................... except of course Mossad ::angel:: .

The only chance to destroy the facilities after they are moved further underground is by having the American's employ their technology in use of weapons such as the bunker busters. It was thought that Prime Minister Netanyahu would agree with not using any military intervention if he got insurances form the Americans that they would help Israel destroy the facilities if the Prime Minister would wait just a while longer to see if sanctions would eventually work, which we all know they won’t. Only a lib can believe such nonsense.

I believe Prime Minister Netanyahu got his answer and expressed it in his statement. What I think the Prime Minister was implying is he cannot count on obama and his administration therefore Israel must go it alone. It is my opinion Israel will and must act soon, sadly without much help from this appalling obama administration. Unless he - obama thinks it will help his reelection chances ::cussing::

If this was an administration supportive of Israel there would have been no need for all the public talk about when Israel is going to attack. One day we would have heard of an explosion in Iran and in time it would have been revealed that Iran’s nuclear program is nonexistent.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 06, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
I think you are spot on Magnum and it is after all what I expected from the start.  I think even under a McCain Administration there would have been some horse trading with Bibi, perhaps some minor concessions to Pali's and a commitment to a new round of regional negatiations in return for appropriate hardware.  Not that I favor any concessions to those maniacs, I don't, but it illstrates how far we've detatched from Israel under this horrid Regime.  Israel, as always, will do what it must to survive.  The words "never again" never stray far from their hearts and minds, nor should it.  It upsets me greatly that my nation is so alien to this recognition at present.  I stand with Israel and in opposition to the official policies of the US government as currently constituted.  May God watch over Israel and her people in these trying times!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on March 06, 2012, 09:03:21 PM
The scuttle butt I’ve heard is that Prime Minister Netanyahu came to make a final judgment on obama. Apparently Iran is close to moving their nuclear facilities deeper underground where they will be “safe” form any weapon Israel now processes............................................... except of course Mossad ::angel:: .

The only chance to destroy the facilities after they are moved further underground is by having the American's employ their technology in use of weapons such as the bunker busters. It was thought that Prime Minister Netanyahu would agree with not using any military intervention if he got insurances form the Americans that they would help Israel destroy the facilities if the Prime Minister would wait just a while longer to see if sanctions would eventually work, which we all know they won’t. Only a lib can believe such nonsense.

I believe Prime Minister Netanyahu got his answer and expressed it in his statement. What I think the Prime Minister was implying is he cannot count on obama and his administration therefore Israel must go it alone. It is my opinion Israel will and must act soon, sadly without much help from this appalling obama administration. Unless he - obama thinks it will help his reelection chances ::cussing::

If this was an administration supportive of Israel there would have been no need for all the public talk about when Israel is going to attack. One day we would have heard of an explosion in Iran and in time it would have been revealed that Iran’s nuclear program is nonexistent.

 If the government won't help I think we should help all we can with whatever money we can afford to send if need be.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 08, 2012, 07:25:43 AM
I don't know why, I just can't stop teasing the chicken-little WWIII-is-here! pacifists without a clue at ZH...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-war-iran-coming (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-war-iran-coming)

Life would just be grand if only we had the wisdom to listen to Ron Paul.  I mean, Iran didn't do anything we didn't make them do, right?  Don't look under their rugs, it's their rugs, not ours!  Just stay out of their business!  And if they have a bomb its only because we have a bomb and Israel has a bomb, if everybody has a bomb nobody will use a bomb, right?  I mean, they really can't believe all that Islamic mumbo-jumbo, wiping Israel off the map or that goofy 12th Imam sh*t, right?

Right?

/

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on March 08, 2012, 08:05:19 AM
I don't know why, I just can't stop teasing the chicken-little WWIII-is-here! pacifists without a clue at ZH...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-war-iran-coming (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-war-iran-coming)

Life would just be grand if only we had the wisdom to listen to Ron Paul.  I mean, Iran didn't do anything we didn't make them do, right?  Don't look under their rugs, it's their rugs, not ours!  Just stay out of their business!  And if they have a bomb its only because we have a bomb and Israel has a bomb, if everybody has a bomb nobody will use a bomb, right?  I mean, they really can't believe all that Islamic mumbo-jumbo, wiping Israel off the map or that goofy 12th Imam sh*t, right?

Right?

/

 ::gaah::

Are those people at ZH Holocaust-deniers as well?  They sure seem to be ignorant of history in any case.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 08, 2012, 11:33:47 AM
I don't know why, I just can't stop teasing the chicken-little WWIII-is-here! pacifists without a clue at ZH...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-war-iran-coming (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-war-iran-coming)

Life would just be grand if only we had the wisdom to listen to Ron Paul.  I mean, Iran didn't do anything we didn't make them do, right?  Don't look under their rugs, it's their rugs, not ours!  Just stay out of their business!  And if they have a bomb its only because we have a bomb and Israel has a bomb, if everybody has a bomb nobody will use a bomb, right?  I mean, they really can't believe all that Islamic mumbo-jumbo, wiping Israel off the map or that goofy 12th Imam sh*t, right?

Right?

/

 ::gaah::

Are those people at ZH Holocaust-deniers as well?  They sure seem to be ignorant of history in any case.

Yeah, some of those are quite prevalent too.  Libertarian areas have always attracted some very strange bedfellows...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 08, 2012, 11:52:40 AM
Oh, and I call BS on thism this is just CYA for Obama so he can throw up his arms and say "I did all I could!", and we do not know ALL of the strings that anti-Israeli douche put on those bombs.  That Bibi was going to act without Obama being a factor was a foregone conculsion.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/attack_offered_israel_advanced_weaponry_vJzadL8Qw5XoQ7akSRO9yK (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/attack_offered_israel_advanced_weaponry_vJzadL8Qw5XoQ7akSRO9yK)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 08, 2012, 05:57:48 PM

IRRC they have taken delivery on some BB's.
IMHO this is a feint.  They have the necessary
equipment.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on March 08, 2012, 07:26:51 PM

IRRC they have taken delivery on some BB's.
IMHO this is a feint.  They have the necessary
equipment.

 You remember correctly they got a shipment I believe about 18 months ago.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Sectionhand on March 10, 2012, 04:07:23 AM
News report yesterday has Stymie promising some special military aid if Israel , in turn , promises no attack in 2012 . Hmmm ... This doesn't stink to high heaven of politics , does it ?  ::whatgives:: ::outrage:: :o >:( ::angry:: ::gaah:: ::saywhat::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on March 10, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
News report yesterday has Stymie promising some special military aid if Israel , in turn , promises no attack in 2012 . Hmmm ... This doesn't stink to high heaven of politics , does it ?  ::whatgives:: ::outrage:: :o >:( ::angry:: ::gaah:: ::saywhat::

 Sure just look for all the Blue Jews sitting holding their breaths  waiting for his reelection to defend themselves.His weapons are going to be of little comfort if THEY'RE ALL DEAD!!and who would take his word for the deliveries to show up.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 13, 2012, 01:12:48 PM
There is no way I see Bibi ceding his nations safety to politically benefit the SCoaMF no matter what the reward might be!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 13, 2012, 01:41:25 PM

Turkey threw out the Israeli ambassador.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 13, 2012, 02:13:09 PM
I'd say he's a lucky man then, a posting in Ankara has to suck anyway.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 19, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
Could be getting closer to D-Day in Persia, more peices moving into place.  Still looks precautionary to me, Israel will be in center ring.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120319.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120319.aspx)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 19, 2012, 06:54:43 PM

"the 1,400 ton Avengers specialize in minesweeping. Built mostly of wood and very little iron the fourteen Avengers entered the fleet between 1987 and 1994"

 The ships (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/mcm-1.htm)are constructed of wood covered with Glass Reinforced Plastic (GRP) sheathing.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 20, 2012, 07:00:53 AM
They were due to be retired soon, but are still needed until enough LCC variants get on line to handle the load, so the Avengers will probably be around till the end of the decade.  One of the last designs to come out of the Reagan buildup.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 20, 2012, 07:46:54 AM
The Old Gray Hag posted this today -

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/20/world/middleeast/united-states-war-game-sees-dire-results-of-an-israeli-attack-on-iran.html?_r=1&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/20/world/middleeast/united-states-war-game-sees-dire-results-of-an-israeli-attack-on-iran.html?_r=1&hp)

These war games tend to get the worst case scenarios more credence than perhaps they deserve, I am not convinced Iran is willing to risk all-out war that sees its nation in ruins, but these 12th Imam cultists cannot be counted on to be reasonable as you and I understand the term, but at a basic survival level the advent of an Israeli strike may not initiate the worst of all possible outcomes.

Looks to me like the Regime wants to try to buy more time.  I think they would like to make it to November without Israeli action, but I have serious doubts the Israeli's can afford to wait much longer to act.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2012, 07:29:24 AM
Wow, once again, why would Israel think the US is serious about Iran?

"The State Department announced on Tuesday that it would exempt 10 European countries and Japan from penalties for doing business with Iran's central bank, because those countries are making significant progress toward weaning themselves off of Iranian oil."
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/20/state_department_exempts_11_countries_from_iran_sanctions (http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/20/state_department_exempts_11_countries_from_iran_sanctions)

But, I thought the Obama Regime doesn't give a damn about oil?  But I guess it gives less a damn about Iran sanctions, so, there ya go!

What a leader, eh?  Usually you have to go to Banana Republic's and Third World Dictators for this kind of open idiocy!

This is the world we live in!

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 22, 2012, 11:28:16 PM

When Barak went to Berlin (http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=263069)
...
The FAZ piece noted that the Merkel administration will "immediately" support Israel and provide rocket-defense systems and specialized personnel if requested by Israel in order to bolster its defenses during a conflict with Iran.

Former Israeli ambassador to Germany Shimon Stein, who served from 2001 to 2007, told the Post on the telephone that the "FAZ article is good news. Netanyahu's office will be pleased to read it."
...

                                                                                                         2538
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2012, 08:14:28 AM
Wow, the Germans are talking like we used to talk when we fully supported Israel!

Good for Israel, and bravo to Germany!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on March 23, 2012, 05:45:29 PM
Wow, the Germans are talking like we used to talk when we fully supported Israel!

Good for Israel, and bravo to Germany!


 They still have a set.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 08:48:07 AM
Another busy day in the gulf, next new moon (if it matters) is not until April 21st, keep on shippin'!

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?level0=100 (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?level0=100)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 27, 2012, 01:57:55 PM

It must really be hopping now, half of Africa, Europe, China, and
India, "Sorry, we have no imagery here".  Hell's a poppin'?

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 02:11:12 PM
I like that link...I click the "unspecified" ship box on and off, there are lots of them today...who are they and what are they doing?  Why are they "unidentified"?  Could be privately owned pleasure craft and such, or it could be pirates and small Iranian torpedo boats for all we know!

ETA - To show up they must have a transponder but their transponder must not allow the site operator to identify type of ship, but names are often given when you hover over them and many have foreign (perhaps local) origin.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 27, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

Some of that Google realtime like Clooney has in the Sudan would be cool.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
Things heating up on Egyptian border, with the MB gaining influence there, there is word that they'll go after Israel if Israel does anything in Iran.  I wonder what old guard military types think of their hotheaded MB buddies?!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exchange-fire-along-israel-egypt-border-army-234047598.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exchange-fire-along-israel-egypt-border-army-234047598.html)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 27, 2012, 10:56:54 PM
Things heating up on Egyptian border, with the MB gaining influence there, there is word that they'll go after Israel if Israel does anything in Iran.  I wonder what old guard military types think of their hotheaded MB buddies?!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exchange-fire-along-israel-egypt-border-army-234047598.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exchange-fire-along-israel-egypt-border-army-234047598.html)


Target practice, ahhh those guys.

Speculating, a large percentage of the Generals and officer corps respect the Jews more than the MB, also, they are rational and not suicidal.  They are between a rock and a hard place but Israel attacking Iran may force an opportunity to identify and contain the leaders of the Opponents to Civilization thus giving Egypt one more chance at modernity.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on March 27, 2012, 11:03:46 PM
Do I give a rat's about Egypt's last chance at modernity?   ...
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...
...

No.  Not at the cost of my country's blood or treasure.  Our Traitors Within have already paid toward Egypt's detriment and I don't believe reparations are in order.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2012, 06:50:02 AM
I'm interested in how the PTB's in Egpyt handle an Israeli strike in Iran, I am not hopeful it will garner anything approaching a positive change in attitude in Egyptian leadership, the MB leopard is not going to suddenly change its spots, and neither am I worried about Israel defending her borders as she seems more than capable.  I merely find the prospect for internal Egyptian discord amusing, but anything done to harm the cause of the MB clowns is a bonus.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2012, 08:11:35 AM
Do I give a rat's about Egypt's last chance at modernity?   ...
...
...
...
...
...

No.  Not at the cost of my country's blood or treasure.  Our Traitors Within have already paid toward Egypt's detriment and I don't believe reparations are in order.


 How does one equate "modernity" and the advent of "Sharia law" being brought back?  Moronic.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 28, 2012, 10:24:13 AM

The officer class Egyptian military have one foot in the twentieth century
the MB are racing for the seventh.  It is conceivable that an Israeli attack
on Iran will cause a confrontation between the Egyptian military and MB
which could lead to the military taking Egypt back from the nuts.  No US
involvement will be necessary and in light of current events outcomes for
Egypt will be better if we kept our Algae to ourselves.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2012, 11:22:17 AM
A nice scenario, but I bet Duh Wun can screw that up somehow!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 29, 2012, 07:29:51 AM
IDF cancelling Passover leaves, of course headless chicken types will read much into this, but it is after all merely a wise decision to make given the situations in Iran, Egypt & Syria.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/154265#.T3PT4NV2P2m (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/154265#.T3PT4NV2P2m)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on March 29, 2012, 04:25:49 PM
*&^%&%$#*%#@$   obama administration:

Now this: Obama betraying Israel? US making deliberate effort to hinder Iran strike by leaking classified info, intelligence assessments, says Ron Ben-Yishai in special Ynet report (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4209836,00.html)

May GOD judge obama fairly, for his evil towards Israel.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 29, 2012, 06:34:58 PM

At first it's upsetting but then consider the brilliance of this administration
and the probability that they are leaking what Israel is feeding them.
                                                                                                          ;D
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 30, 2012, 01:32:26 AM

U.S. officials believe that the Israelis have gained access to airbases in Azerbaijan.
Does this bring them one step closer to a war with Iran? (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/03/28/israel_s_secret_staging_ground)

It may or may not bring Israel one step closer to war with Iran
but it certainly puts Iran in a pinch.
                                                     ::hysterical::

 

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 30, 2012, 07:45:29 AM
Doing an end around Obama and feeding his Regime BS is the only sane approach to take, it's like a lawyer treating a witness they thought was on their side as hostile.  Proceeding from any other point of view is foolish and potentially hazardous!

And don't worry Magnum, Obama will be judged fairly, and Israel will emerge triumphant once again!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on March 30, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Doing an end around Obama and feeding his Regime BS is the only sane approach to take, it's like a lawyer treating a witness they thought was on their side as hostile.  Proceeding from any other point of view is foolish and potentially hazardous!

And don't worry Magnum, Obama will be judged fairly, and Israel will emerge triumphant once again!

 You keys to Gods eyes.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on April 05, 2012, 07:51:30 AM
It's heating up now...

CIA - Iran kicked up enrichment production in 2011 (no kidding?!)
http://freebeacon.com/cia-iran-nuke-expansion/ (http://freebeacon.com/cia-iran-nuke-expansion/)

Rocket from Sinai launched into Israel (Eilat) - Egypt of course denies responsibility (what do you expect from MB's, truth about their own involvement or that of their PLO buddies?) -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17620925 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17620925)
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=264934 (http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=264934)

Meanwhile, Stymie is entertaining MB's at the WH!  (I'm sure that'll be a big hit for world peace!  NOT!) -

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/officials-egypts-brotherhood-white-house-225832039.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/officials-egypts-brotherhood-white-house-225832039.html)

Just keep adding more ingredients to the mix!    ::stirpot::   A few more sprinkles of incoming missiles and a few more dashes of hate and viola!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 05, 2012, 12:15:56 PM

A key sigh will be the positioning of
their tanks to the border regions.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on April 05, 2012, 02:05:25 PM
Yeah, but neither the Persian's or Arab nations surrounding Israel have direct satellite access, so in theory Israel should be able to stage assets with impunity as long as she holds any air incursions (manned or unmanned) at arms length.  But, as we all know, states that like to see America and her perceived or actual allies humiliated, like to leak such info to the bad apples in the region.  Typically I would castigate the Rooskies & ChiCom's for this nefarious activity, but with Obama in office and his oft-demonstrated affinity for Islamic nations and disdain for Israel, there exists an all too real risk that someone in The Regime here will rat out Israel's movements to people who will not be good at keeping it quiet!

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 05, 2012, 04:20:11 PM

It's going to be necessary to get boots (timely) to/at the border.
We know/I think as soon as Iran lights up most or all the border
will be attacked.  Syria may be preoccupied or this may be a
misdirection they need to refocus their people, Lebanon is ready
to go, Who's on top in Egypt and Jordan who knows.  I think Turkey
has volunteered assistance also.
 
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on April 06, 2012, 06:59:09 AM
I'll bet many a senior Egyptian military leader is shaking his head and muttering "We cannot let them (MB) suck us into a full-scale war, the nation will be ruined for generations"!  Yeah, the next Lebanon!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2012, 08:10:23 AM
It shouldn't be too hard to tell who is running dark and who isn't, so, ready the boarding parties!

Iranian Tankers Go Dark
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlog/articles/20120418.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlog/articles/20120418.aspx)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2012, 07:09:23 AM
Heh, if the Saudi's are spouting off...sounds like to me either something is in the works they'll be a part of...or this is their way of saying they'll be a part of it one way or another.  And where the Saudi's go, the UAE & the rest of the gulf nations will follow.  The Persian's are running out of time and friends.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-warns-iran-over-gulf-islands-bahrain-185732515.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-warns-iran-over-gulf-islands-bahrain-185732515.html)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 03, 2012, 11:26:29 PM

Israel gets 4th nuke-capable German submarine
    Link (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_SUBMARINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-05-03-14-40-00)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2012, 07:48:18 AM
Will not have it though till 2013, then even an expedited shakedown & trials schedule means it probably will not be deployable until mid-summer at the earliest.  You really don't want to do a "quick & dirty" job of it if nukes are loaded.  The Persian Incursion could be history by then.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 07, 2012, 10:22:18 PM

Yesterday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called for an early election for a new government Sept. 4.

"It is preferable to hold a short election campaign for four months that would enable us to quickly restore stability of our political system...", he said.

The official date would have been October 2013.  He called for the election in order to either solidify his position to avoid any second guessing in case any sudden event would require the nation to be
full square and unified in purpose.

Today: (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/05/08/Come-Together-Netanyahu-to-Form-Unity-Government-Elections-Canceled)

"In a dramatic, late-night move, Israel's two main political parties have agreed to form a national unity government, canceling early elections and forming a solid front as the country braces for a possible pre-emptive strike against Iran--and possible American opposition."


God speed, brothers.



Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: trapeze on May 07, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
I don't know what their target priorities will be. I could make some assumptions...obviously the nuke stuff would be up there...probably right after the AA sites. I sure hope that they take out their one and only oil refinery and all of their gasoline import facilities...let the Iranians walk.

Oh, and I hope they take out all of their communications and electrical grid.

Welcome to the dark ages.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 07, 2012, 11:12:09 PM

Runways and air assets.  Ground assets such as tanks and all logistical assets.
All barracks and boots.  Dark ages? Yeah, their buddies to the east will be more than accommodating.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Sectionhand on May 08, 2012, 02:40:39 AM

Runways and air assets.  Ground assets such as tanks and all logistical assets.
All barracks and boots.  Dark ages? Yeah, their buddies to the east will be more than accommodating.



They don't have enough air-power ( or conventional ordinance ) to get all of that done .
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 08, 2012, 07:24:42 AM
I'm with SH on this, they have neither the assets or the time to do the Grand Tour of Persia, the nuke sites are the priority...and there are enough of them to make the job tough enough, and most are underground in hardened bunkers built by Germans who know a thing or two about bunkers.

They got some tough nuts to crack, and they'll throw everything they have to crack 'em.  They'll have to do some suppression and disruption going in and cover action during egress...and I think if they work a deal with the Saudi's and other interested parties in the Gulf they'll get much of the support they need.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 08, 2012, 08:33:08 PM

If the Saudi's had the balls of bedouins their planes would
be up and assisting.  If you want to rule the region, rule it.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: BMG on May 11, 2012, 12:43:32 PM
Israel NOT invited to NATO summit in Chicago (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israel-invited-natos-chicago-summit-16326438#.T61GCMWwUzR)

Quote
Israel will not be invited to NATO's May 20-21 summit in Chicago, the alliance's top official said Friday. But he denied that alliance member Turkey had blocked Israel's participation.

Instead, NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the reason is because Israel does not participate in NATO's main military missions.

So I wonder if this is 'punishment' for Israel's preparations against Iran...

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: BMG on May 11, 2012, 02:45:47 PM
LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/echoes-of-67-israel-unites/2012/05/10/gIQA9tUaGU_story.html?wprss=rss_opinions)

Quote
Netanyahu forfeited September elections that would have given him four more years in power. He chose instead to form a national coalition that guarantees 18 months of stability — 18 months during which, if the world does not act (whether by diplomacy or otherwise) to stop Iran, Israel will.

And it will not be the work of one man, one party or one ideological faction. As in 1967, it will be the work of a nation.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 11, 2012, 07:23:34 PM
LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/echoes-of-67-israel-unites/2012/05/10/gIQA9tUaGU_story.html?wprss=rss_opinions)

Quote
Netanyahu forfeited September elections that would have given him four more years in power. He chose instead to form a national coalition that guarantees 18 months of stability — 18 months during which, if the world does not act (whether by diplomacy or otherwise) to stop Iran, Israel will.

And it will not be the work of one man, one party or one ideological faction. As in 1967, it will be the work of a nation.

Link: (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/05/08/Come-Together-Netanyahu-to-Form-Unity-Government-Elections-Canceled)

"In a dramatic, late-night move, Israel's two main political parties have agreed to form a national unity government, canceling early elections and forming a solid front as the country braces for a possible pre-emptive strike against Iran--and possible American opposition."

The US is a long way from voluntary agreement such as this.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: AlanS on May 12, 2012, 09:28:51 AM
LINK (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/echoes-of-67-israel-unites/2012/05/10/gIQA9tUaGU_story.html?wprss=rss_opinions)

Quote
Netanyahu forfeited September elections that would have given him four more years in power. He chose instead to form a national coalition that guarantees 18 months of stability — 18 months during which, if the world does not act (whether by diplomacy or otherwise) to stop Iran, Israel will.

And it will not be the work of one man, one party or one ideological faction. As in 1967, it will be the work of a nation.

Link: (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/05/08/Come-Together-Netanyahu-to-Form-Unity-Government-Elections-Canceled)

"In a dramatic, late-night move, Israel's two main political parties have agreed to form a national unity government, canceling early elections and forming a solid front as the country braces for a possible pre-emptive strike against Iran--and possible American opposition."

The US is a long way from voluntary agreement such as this.


Netanyahu already knows Duh Won has no balls and is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 13, 2012, 06:37:06 PM
Bibi knew that from the get-go, he is doing what he has to.  Just like we are.   ;)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 14, 2012, 11:53:48 AM
Interesting!

The U.S. Navy has ordered several dozen more expendable SeaFox UUVs (unmanned underwater vehicles). These are used to destroy bottom mines (which sit on the seabed). These UUVs are being sent to the Persian Gulf to deal with potential Iranian use of naval miles. The new Seafox UUVs will be used on additional Avenger mine hunting ships being sent to the Persian Gulf.
http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/201205111402.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/201205111402.aspx)
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120511.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120511.aspx)

Four of the Avengers are already based out of Bahrain.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 15, 2012, 07:49:13 AM
Well, Iran is in a killing mood...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/world/middleeast/iran-executes-alleged-israeli-spy.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/world/middleeast/iran-executes-alleged-israeli-spy.html?_r=2&partner=MYWAY&ei=5065)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 17, 2012, 08:28:01 AM
Achmedisajerk wants to come out and play!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/155896 (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/155896)

Obliterate the bastard!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 17, 2012, 11:27:03 AM
I didn't know Bibi's father recently passed away...102, heck of a run!

I have to say for a Reuters article is less offensive than most.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/17/us-israel-iran-idUSBRE84G0UC20120517 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/17/us-israel-iran-idUSBRE84G0UC20120517)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 17, 2012, 03:41:09 PM

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/201205111402.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/201205111402.aspx)
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120511.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20120511.aspx)

Those babies, without the electronics, are barely 20th century, I like it. 
Hook a big chain in between two of them and let them drag it along the bottom.
Hook a big chain in between two of them and let them drag it into a prop.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 18, 2012, 07:41:10 AM
Yeah, and this is just the devices we know about, and the full capabilities are almost always much more than we think.  I think we got clubs in the bag that the Persians have no hope of overcoming.  But our job is actually the easy part - contain the damage and keep the sea lanes open, Israel has the tough job of knocking out hardened underground nuke sites and suppressing defenses.  And I think we are much closer to action than people think.  This thing is going to happen before the end of summer, I just don't see it getting postponed much longer.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 31, 2012, 07:46:09 AM
Lies and deception, it is the Persian way.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/enrichment-not-step-towards-bomb-ahmadinejad-202735604.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/enrichment-not-step-towards-bomb-ahmadinejad-202735604.html)

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/satellite-images-show-iran-site-buildings-completely-razed-says-u-s-think-tank-1.433561 (http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/satellite-images-show-iran-site-buildings-completely-razed-says-u-s-think-tank-1.433561)

Looks to me like they are hunkering down for a long fight.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 04, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
Quote

AFP – 9 hours ago (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-fitting-nuclear-arms-subs-005955787.html) - Israel is arming submarines supplied and largely financed by Germany with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, influential German news weekly Der Spiegel reports in its issue to be published on Monday.


The United States is the Great Satan and Israel is the Little Satan, does this make Germany the Satans acolyte?

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/fina-world-championships-slideshow/israeli-navy-boat-escorts-dolphin-class-german-made-photo-205426525.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/fina-world-championships-slideshow/israeli-navy-boat-escorts-dolphin-class-german-made-photo-205426525.html)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on June 04, 2012, 07:28:30 AM
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AFP – 9 hours ago (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-fitting-nuclear-arms-subs-005955787.html) - Israel is arming submarines supplied and largely financed by Germany with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, influential German news weekly Der Spiegel reports in its issue to be published on Monday.


The United States is the Great Satan and Israel is the Little Satan, does this make Germany the Satans acolyte?

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/fina-world-championships-slideshow/israeli-navy-boat-escorts-dolphin-class-german-made-photo-205426525.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/fina-world-championships-slideshow/israeli-navy-boat-escorts-dolphin-class-german-made-photo-205426525.html)



Ahh, I neglected to consider the tactical nuke cruise missile variant, much shorter turnaround time to install since the conventional platform is an existing system.  Would still expect some dummy load testing to hone their skill and work out bugs before they deploy specials, but it certainly enhances their security position.


As to your question...I guess it makes Germany a minion of the Satans.  But then again, to them all the unconverted are to be enslaved or killed anyway, so what they think in the end really doesn't matter.  We should kill all of them and then there would be a lot less killing going forward.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on June 04, 2012, 08:29:51 AM
ZH posting on this...they always wet their panties when da Joos try to defend themselves...all the typical Ron Paul Jew-hating morons come out to comment, wade in if you dare...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/export-driven-warmonger-germany-supplying-world-and-israel-submarines (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/export-driven-warmonger-germany-supplying-world-and-israel-submarines)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 04, 2012, 11:53:10 AM

It's not big enough, I miss Pl at times like these.
Read in an article that the Blaze was trying to
supplant Drudge, bet he's not aware of the set
up PL had.  He has the goes to make a redo of
it.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on July 19, 2012, 06:38:40 AM

It's not big enough, I miss Pl at times like these.
Read in an article that the Blaze was trying to
supplant Drudge, bet he's not aware of the set
up PL had.  He has the goes to make a redo of
it.



That would be interesting.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on July 19, 2012, 06:46:55 AM
Here's a carrier update on ZH via Stratfor...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/three-us-aircraft-carriers-now-middle-east-fourth-en-route (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/three-us-aircraft-carriers-now-middle-east-fourth-en-route)

Asking "If a carrier moves, will ZHer's go apesh*t with 'the-end-is-near' hysteria?" is like asking "Does a bear crap in the woods?"!

 ::)

The Stennis could be reving up to merely fill a deployment gap as easily as any nefarious purpose, but there is no telling that to the doves at ZH.

As soon as Ike got on station the Lincoln transited "the ditch" and entered the Med, a typical move to give sailors long on station a liberty port or two before heading back to the barn.  Could they be pressed into service?  Uh, yeah, any ship currently at sea can be pressed into service at any time.
 ::)
It's like having options is a bad thing for doves no matter what.

Stennis could be pulled back if nothing happens the next couple weeks and the Nimitz could be ready by then to steam to the Enterprise's releif, letting the latter finish the homeward leg of her farewell tour.

 ;)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2012, 10:52:31 PM
Methinks Bibi's patience is running thin, can't say I blame him...Israeli's ought to be deeply concerned for their survival...Lord knows they have too few friends and the idiot in the White House sure isn't one of them!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/01/israeli-pm-iran-nuclear-programme (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/01/israeli-pm-iran-nuclear-programme)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 01, 2012, 11:30:26 PM

Read, somewhere, today that Amaddinnerjacket said he is going to attack
the Gulf States if Assad goes down.  He thinks they are in on it and the
Gulf States think Dinnerjacket will do it.   Also, recently an article on captured
jihadi types (50?) within the Gulf States.   It's all a big tender box on tenterhooks.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2012, 06:56:35 AM
Not a lot the Persian's coould do though, they cannot risk overextending their forces in the face of imminent attack by the IDF, they might launch a few of their older missles and target a few boats, but they would invite massive ruination if they tried to create more enemies looking for a reason to stomp them...and attacks on shipping in the straight would result in the same thing and invite a US response that Obama would no doubt relish to save his sinking poll numbers.  October surprise of some sort is almost certain.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 02, 2012, 11:26:04 AM
Here's Achmedisajerk's latest psychotic Jew-hating rant...

http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=279864 (http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=279864)

Hitler's genital wart, I think I like that as a new moniker for this little peice of Persian trash, is hopefully on the IDF target list...would love to see him blown apart!

With Panetta talking more like Bibi than Barry, Hitler's genital wart ought to be contemplating where he intends to hide out before the bombs fall.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/world/middleeast/in-israel-panetta-warns-iran-on-nuclear-program.html?_r=2&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/world/middleeast/in-israel-panetta-warns-iran-on-nuclear-program.html?_r=2&hp)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Sectionhand on August 04, 2012, 04:48:12 AM
Don't bet against a possible strike against Iran's nuke sites by Israel ( with the full cooperation of the U.S. ) just before election day if Stymie and his minions figure it will keep them in the White House . His shameless political give-aways to date offer ample evidence that there's no depth to which he wouldn't stoop to retain power . The ramifications are something he'll deal with on November 7th ... and get totally screwed up !
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Glock32 on August 04, 2012, 11:38:22 AM
The question is, can an air strike even get at the nuclear facilities? I know at least some of them are literally built into mountains. A nuclear bunker buster might, but who knows.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 04, 2012, 12:35:26 PM

If airstrikes take out the infrastructure, air force,
and all troop logistical support the remaining under-
ground facilities may as well be unmined ore.

They like the 7th century, we should help them live it.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2012, 11:34:32 AM
Should nibble at them a bit and weaken their overall military capability, C&C and infrastructure...then go in for the kill.  This is not a one stop op.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 05, 2012, 08:00:56 PM

In the Sinai (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/twenty-egyptian-police-killed-wounded-attack-near-israel-185757195.html), affiliates of "The Religion of Peace" gunned down fifteen Egyptian policemen, stole a tank and tried to storm the  Israeli border.

Benjamin Netanyahu said: "Thanks to the determined action of the IDF  and the Shin Bet, a big attack against Israeli civilians was prevented."

Whoopsi!

"Israeli military spokeswoman Avital Leibovich said gunmen had seized two vehicles. One exploded and the second was destroyed by Israeli aircraft."

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 05, 2012, 10:30:14 PM

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=280162 (http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=280162)

*************
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4264851,00.html (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4264851,00.html)
(http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer3/2012/08/05/4081975/2_wa.jpg)
Hijacked armored vehicle on fire (Photo: IDF Spokesperson's Unit)

The IDF reported that around 8pm, the terrorist cell managed to take over an Egyptian base in north Sinai and killed at least 10 Egyptian soldiers. At 8:15pm


Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on August 05, 2012, 11:07:01 PM
They're waiting for our election.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2012, 06:53:18 AM
I hate waiting, but I hate giving Stymie anything other than an ass-whuppin'.

Rock, meet hard place.

 ::bashing::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2012, 11:44:46 AM
Looks to me this is the last step required to make before the regional parties agree to stomp on Iran or stay out of the fracas...the Saudi's want to be seen as giving the Persian's one last chance to stave off oblivion, and I think everybody knows Achmedisajerk will only piss in the punchbowl anyway, so...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/saudi-invites-iran-extraordinary-muslim-summit-131318625.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/saudi-invites-iran-extraordinary-muslim-summit-131318625.html)

Let them have their show...when the curtain next opens it will be a different kind of show...louder...flashier...with billowing smoke and screaming alpha's...

 
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2012, 07:04:30 AM
Persians getting much closer...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/new-intelligence-reveals-iranian-military-nuclear-program-advancing-faster-than-previously-thought.premium-1.456426 (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/new-intelligence-reveals-iranian-military-nuclear-program-advancing-faster-than-previously-thought.premium-1.456426)

No wonder Bibi is growing more concerned...and why the Saudi's are now employing their last ditch diplomatic CYA operation...I would say we are closer to bang-zoom than ever.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2012, 10:04:20 PM
USS Porter collides with Japanese tanker in straight.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/12/world/meast/bahrain-navy-collision/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/12/world/meast/bahrain-navy-collision/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)

Crowded place, have to see what details come forth from an inquiry.  No doubt Iran will enjoy the bad press.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 12, 2012, 10:43:44 PM

The cartoon showed the Porter turning hard to port right in front of
the tanker.  First thought: Chinese software.

What's up with the Mecca meeting?

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2012, 06:50:35 AM
I dunno, Achmed the Persian must have said no.

Their attention is turning to Myanmar Muzzies...

http://www.arabnews.com/muslim-world-pins-hopes-makkah-summit (http://www.arabnews.com/muslim-world-pins-hopes-makkah-summit)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2012, 07:13:32 AM
Meanwhile, back in Persia, Achmed is busy building a nuclear arsenal and itching to set the Middle East ablaze so he can embrace the 12th Muzzie Douchebag...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/12/255885/iran-war-countdown-to-israel-doomsday/ (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/12/255885/iran-war-countdown-to-israel-doomsday/)

Bibi has to break the deadlock in his cabinet and tell them to deuce or get off the pot!  The Persian crazies will be upon them soon, better to engage them on your terms than theirs...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 13, 2012, 09:39:06 AM

Commander Zero with his sanctions against Iran has caused them
money problems therefore they are getting twitchy.  But, Zero can't
wage the dog in order to get reelected because it would skyrocket
the price of oil which would cause his approval to drop so low the
MSM couldn't even lie about it.  He has Arabstrung himself.

Edit: Mecca is a city in the Hejaz and the capital of Makkah.   hmmm
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 13, 2012, 11:28:54 AM
Commander Null is boxed in, but higher oil/gas prices will happen regardless if the SCoaMF is in on the parade on not, and probably a higher political price to pay for not acting than acting, so he has no choice but to play follow the leader...something new and pathetic in modern American geopolitical strategy...but this is StymieWorld.

Mecca...Makkah...gateway to hell!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 13, 2012, 11:11:22 PM

“Mecaca!!!”

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ahmadinejad-arrives-saudi-islamic-summit-144925881.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ahmadinejad-arrives-saudi-islamic-summit-144925881.html)

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrived on Monday in Saudi Arabia ahead of an extraordinary summit in Mecca expected to focus on the Syria conflict, on which Tehran and Riyadh have taken opposing sides.


                                                                                                       4580

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2012, 07:00:45 AM
Maybe we'll get to see a Saudi-Persian cage match to the death...

 ::evil::

Nah, not that lucky.

 ::)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 15, 2012, 11:21:19 PM

The King had Axmed sit at his
left side as they greeted guests.


Here's (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/crude-spikes-renewed-mid-east-war-fears) how this is going to go down IMO.........the Israelis will strike without warning and the US military will say they didn't know! The Israelis will inflict some serious visual damage on the ground and also take some heavy loses, the US will wait until Iran attempts to respond and we will "be drawn into it"  Lebanon will light up the northern border with Israel and Hamas will attack from the South, the Syrian dictator Al Assad will be saved, because no one wants him gone anyway, and nothing units a Country like a common external enemy!!  Oil will go to 150-200 a barrel and Obama will open the SPR immediately, .............the rest will depend on how well everyone does on the battlefield, Russia will be in the game with the Iranians, and we will be backing the Israelis and indirectly Saudi Arabia!!   
Should be scarey and stunning to watch at the same time!

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 16, 2012, 02:07:28 PM
Not sure about $200, that is really pushing the panic button and assumes the worse case scenario on the ground.  Egypt is a wildcard and the MB pushing for war while the military resists could plunge them into a full-scale civil war.  Iraq and other gulf states could see collateral damage and further suck us in, and if it keeps expanding you could see China trying to jump into the fray, but I seriously doubt they could do much as their naval forces are not that built up yet to risk taking us on in a battle for the sea.

Time is running short though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9478044/Israeli-minister-warns-of-30-day-war-with-Iran.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9478044/Israeli-minister-warns-of-30-day-war-with-Iran.html)

As much as I would like to see Israel hold off until after the election, I am not too certain I will get my wish, so Romney's team better get their poop in a group and get ahead of this curve and out-manuever Obama for the narrative.  He should be able to pin this debacle on his poor foreign policy record and say it is the weakness and indecision of the Obama Admin that led to this point, and tie in the Admin's policy of punishing the oil industry and refusing to open up all of America's potential reserves.  If we had done that groundwork in 2009 perhpas more of our own reserves could be coming on line as this crisis hit.  So it is a massive failure of foreign and domestic policy that got us here, and all of it can be laid at Obama's feet and that of his extremist anti-oil/anti-Israel/anti-military dem's in congress!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 17, 2012, 12:26:41 PM
Amhadisajerk spouts his Jew-hating bile some more...

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-israels-existence-insult-humanity-093922735.html (http://news.yahoo.com/iran-israels-existence-insult-humanity-093922735.html)

Saudi cleric slams Israel in like fashion and twists holocaust into more batsh*t-crazy Jewish blood libel BS.

http://freebeacon.com/saudi-cleric-questions-holocaust/ (http://freebeacon.com/saudi-cleric-questions-holocaust/)

Perhaps the Saudis are going out of their way to prove their anti-Jew Arab-street-cred in prelude to their support of having the Persian put back in its box.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on August 19, 2012, 06:19:08 PM
Obama's latest creation set to visit Iran who is hosting the non-aligned summit...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/08/egyptian-president-to-visit-iran-news-media-report.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/08/egyptian-president-to-visit-iran-news-media-report.html)

Non-aligned my butt!  Aligned with whack-job Muzzies!

And what better cred to impress the batsh*t crazy Persians than crucifying your opponents back home in Egypt!

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/)

More blood on Obama's hands!  And oh, thatb MB relationship Huma has, let's keep sweeping that dirt under the rug too, OK!  What a massive foreign policy fuster cluck!

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2012, 07:09:58 PM
In light of this  -

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6219.0.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6219.0.html)

I can see why Bibi's patience is about gone.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-03/israeli-officials-see-gap-with-u-s-widening-over-iran.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-03/israeli-officials-see-gap-with-u-s-widening-over-iran.html)

Just like any other punk regime, they'll screw over their own people if it means getting what the regime wants, and what Iran wants most is nuclear weapons, it thinks then it can dictate what it wants.

That asshole Obama is Iran's best friend, Israel is out of options, and the sh*t is about to hit the fan.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 08, 2012, 10:58:48 PM
Link (http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=284356)

Palestinian terrorists from the Gaza Strip fired two Grad rockets into Israel overnight Saturday, damaging two buildings in Netivot and causing five civilians to suffer shock symptoms. The attacks came just days after an escalation along Israel's southern border which resulted in the killing of six Palestinians the IDF said were plotting terrorist attacks against Israelis.
...
Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Friday that the IDF could conquer and exert control over the Gaza Strip if the cabinet orders such an operation. Speaking at a conference at the Fisher Brothers Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies, Barak said “if the cabinet will want the IDF to conquer and control Gaza, this is something that is possible today if it is deemed fit."

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 09, 2012, 03:02:29 PM

9/8/2012, 10:10 PM
Hundreds of PA Arabs assault Jewish villagers (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/159758#.UEz4rdU2RRZ) in the Binyamin region, children cry as mob screams ‘slaughter the Jews.’

This and the links appear eerily similar to events here
in the USA and the way the national media covers them.
Good and evil, all over the world, are at war.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on September 09, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on September 09, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
Yes.

  !!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 09, 2012, 05:31:50 PM
The battle will only intensify.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 16, 2012, 04:58:26 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/us-aircraft-carrier-stennis-now-en-route-join-enterprise-and-eisenhower-just-iranian-coast (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/us-aircraft-carrier-stennis-now-en-route-join-enterprise-and-eisenhower-just-iranian-coast)

...the Stennis [CVN-74] has quietly departed Naval Base Kitsap-Bremerton and is off. It will join CVN-65 Enterprise (which is doing its last tour of duty ever before being decommissioned) and CVN-69 Eisenhower in the Arabian Sea, aka off the coast of Iran.

Expect Stennis to reach Iran... in the last third week of September [as opposed to the first third week of September].

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2012/aug/27/stennis-departs-for-eight-month-deployment/ (http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2012/aug/27/stennis-departs-for-eight-month-deployment/)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/08-2/stennis%20launch_0.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/08-2/stennis%20launch_0.jpg)

Source: Stratfor

ETA

Salami Slicing in the South China Sea (http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/this-week-at-war-salami-slicing-in-the-south-china-sea)
August 3, 2012
...
Across the sea, and on the eve of the ill-fated Phnom Penh summit, the China National Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC), a state-owned oil developer, put out a list of offshore blocks for bidding by foreign oil exploration companies. In this case, the blocks were within Vietnam's EEZ -- in fact, parts of some of these blocks had already been leased by Vietnam for exploration and development. Few analysts expect a foreign developer such as Exxon Mobil to legitimize China's over-the-top grab of Vietnam's economic rights. But CNOOC's leasing gambit is another assertion of China's South China Sea claims, in opposition to UNCLOS EEZ boundaries most observers thought were settled.
...
But what may appear trivial from a U.S. perspective could be vital to players like the Philippines and Vietnam, who are attempting to defend their territory and economic rights from an outright power grab. This fact may give these countries a greater incentive to be more aggressive than the United States in defending against China's encroachments. And should shooting break out between China and one of these small countries, policymakers in Beijing will have to consider the reputational and strategic consequences of blasting away at a weaker neighbor.
...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2012, 07:29:49 PM
I expect the Stennis to relieve Enterprise as she is on the last months of her final cruise, I would expect her back around December at the latest.

The Truman has been doing sea trials and CQ's since leaving DPIA, I would expect it could be brought into action quickly if needed.  The Washington left Yokasuka around Aug 20 and is on WestPac, and she could steam to the Gulf if needed before the Truman.

More importantly is where the LHD & LHAs are at.  Iwo Jima was deployed 3/27 and is current 5th Fleet Flag, she'll have to be releived by year end unless something pops up.  Bonhomme Richard is in 7th, and could steam into position easily enough, Wasp is in Atlantic.  Others are in port.  Boxer is working up in 3rd Fleet and could be made ready.

New moon tonight, haevn't heard any shots fired, but Bibi has issued his warnings, people are on notice.  Next dark night not till 10/15.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2012, 07:31:11 PM
Telegraph is reporting ships from 25 nations on the move to PG.  Obviously people are expecting something, the table is set, invitations are out, now it is just a matter of when...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-British-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-British-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 17, 2012, 11:42:11 AM
It appears the preliminary actions began last month...we are definitely a lot closer to the main event...

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19561388/iran-atomic-chief-says-explosives-cut-power-at-facility. (http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19561388/iran-atomic-chief-says-explosives-cut-power-at-facility.)

Syria striking in Lebanon...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443816804578001800053081808.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443816804578001800053081808.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth)

I can see the Persians getting active in Lebanon if for no other reason than to stir the pot and make it more likely that anti-Jewish forces are unleashed once the big show in Iran kicks off...

Bachmann skewering Obama over not meeting with Netanyahu, one of the few doing so...

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bachmann-obama-cancel-letterman-and-jay-z-meet-netanyahu (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bachmann-obama-cancel-letterman-and-jay-z-meet-netanyahu)

The SCoamMF is doing what the SCoaMF does naturally, let sh*t burn and blame others for interrupting his celebrity lifestyle...what else would one expect from a person who has never had to be in a job with real responsibility before?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 18, 2012, 07:59:52 AM
First catch of the day?

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-deploys-russian-made-submarine-gulf-113859186.html (http://news.yahoo.com/iran-deploys-russian-made-submarine-gulf-113859186.html)

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kilo/ (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kilo/)

Doesn't matter how quiet it is, one sub against an array of surface and sub-surface vessels, air surveillance and sonobuoy's sprinkled everywhere...he'd be lucky to get one or two shots off before being dispatched.

Silly Persians, they should just stay in their own litter box.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on September 18, 2012, 02:47:18 PM
Blessed Rosh Hashanah and may God Bless all with health and prosperity.

May God Bless Israel and deal her enemies with total and devastating defeat.

God Bless you Libertas, and thank you for your support of Israel   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 18, 2012, 06:11:32 PM
Blessed Rosh Hashanah and may God Bless all with health and prosperity.

May God Bless Israel and deal her enemies with total and devastating defeat.

God Bless you Libertas, and thank you for your support of Israel   ::thumbsup::

I always keep Israel in my prayers, may she always remain free, strong and secure!   ::thumbsup::

I pray soon we will have an American Administration who once again views her as a valued friend and partner!
 ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on September 18, 2012, 07:04:34 PM
Blessed Rosh Hashanah and may God Bless all with health and prosperity.

May God Bless Israel and deal her enemies with total and devastating defeat.

God Bless you Libertas, and thank you for your support of Israel   ::thumbsup::

I always keep Israel in my prayers, may she always remain free, strong and secure!   ::thumbsup::

I pray soon we will have an American Administration who once again views her as a valued friend and partner!
 ::praying::


 Amen to that!!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on September 18, 2012, 07:47:48 PM

Amen.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 19, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
Iran sure is busy, while trying to repair their electrical grid after attacks, they're busy supporting Syria.  Talk about hard up for friends...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/19/us-syria-crisis-iran-iraq-idUSBRE88I17B20120919 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/19/us-syria-crisis-iran-iraq-idUSBRE88I17B20120919)

They're behind recent ops abroad...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/19/officials-iranian-quds-force-threat-us-homeland/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/19/officials-iranian-quds-force-threat-us-homeland/)

And only Israel is taking the threats seriously...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9553837/Israel-stages-largest-snap-exercise-in-years.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9553837/Israel-stages-largest-snap-exercise-in-years.html)

Yeah, maybe Duh Wun has to go bow some more...   ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2012, 06:16:49 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/23/us-iran-nuclear-israel-preemptive-idUSBRE88M09C20120923 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/23/us-iran-nuclear-israel-preemptive-idUSBRE88M09C20120923)

If all Achmedisajerk can do is yack about it...he lacks the capability.  He is merely setting the table for sympathy from apologists in the West once the fireworks start, and pressure on O'Bongo to reign Israel in before their nuclear program is utterly rendered impotent.

Nice try but no goats for you, Achmed!

 ::mooning::   ::doublebird::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 24, 2012, 08:07:35 AM
O'Bongo on Israeli concerns over Iran nuke program- just "noise".

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-refers-israel-concern-over-iran-noise_652967.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-refers-israel-concern-over-iran-noise_652967.html)

Stay tuned for high decibels, asswipe!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2012, 06:43:31 PM
I see a pic of this many scumbags lined up in one spot and I got just one thought...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ahmadinejad-meets-with-louis-farrakhan-new-black-panther-party-while-in-nyc/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ahmadinejad-meets-with-louis-farrakhan-new-black-panther-party-while-in-nyc/)

Nice friends, eh?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: benb61 on September 26, 2012, 08:46:35 PM
I see a pic of this many scumbags lined up in one spot and I got just one thought...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ahmadinejad-meets-with-louis-farrakhan-new-black-panther-party-while-in-nyc/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ahmadinejad-meets-with-louis-farrakhan-new-black-panther-party-while-in-nyc/)

Nice friends, eh?

The way they are sitting there a single round from a decent sniper could fix a LOT of the worlds woes.  Just sayin'
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on September 26, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
I see a pic of this many scumbags lined up in one spot and I got just one thought...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ahmadinejad-meets-with-louis-farrakhan-new-black-panther-party-while-in-nyc/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ahmadinejad-meets-with-louis-farrakhan-new-black-panther-party-while-in-nyc/)

Nice friends, eh?

The way they are sitting there a single round from a decent sniper could fix a LOT of the worlds woes.  Just sayin'

Roger that.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 27, 2012, 10:16:33 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9572326/Benjamin-Netanyahu-warns-future-of-world-at-stake-over-Irans-nuclear-programme.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9572326/Benjamin-Netanyahu-warns-future-of-world-at-stake-over-Irans-nuclear-programme.html)

As is usual the address to the UN fell on deaf or hostile ears, and all the MFM can do is pooh-pooh Bibi's chart and gestures.

Start hoarding gas.

ETA - All you need to know about the Obama Regime's thinking -

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/un-real-obama-ambassador-rice-blew-off-netanyahu-speech-today-too-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/un-real-obama-ambassador-rice-blew-off-netanyahu-speech-today-too-video/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
ISIS says 2-4 months.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-08-10-20-08 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-08-10-20-08)

Way too close for comfort IMO!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 08, 2012, 07:46:35 PM
      
                    
<|------------(°/\°)-----------|>
      November 13, 22:08  
                     ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 17, 2012, 01:57:25 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/16/iranian-military-official-claims-dozens-iran-drones-have-reached-israel-since/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/16/iranian-military-official-claims-dozens-iran-drones-have-reached-israel-since/)

Iranian military official claims 'dozens' of Iran's drones have reached Israel since 2006



Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2012, 07:01:59 AM
Nice to see they are starting to bring them down.

As for - "But it's unclear whether the new drone contains any elements of an U.S. RQ-170 Sentinel drone that went down in eastern Iran in December." - that is still being reversed-engineered by Axis-of-Evil partners, no way they could have moved that fast on the gift from Obama.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on October 17, 2012, 07:48:42 AM
Capital One Bank and BB&T have been experiencing severe DOS attacks -- Capital One was virtually offline yesterday on account of it -- and the scuttlebutt is it's Iran making good on their threat to do so in retaliation for sanctions on them.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2012, 07:56:08 AM
Hmm, even ZH doesn't have anything on that.  Well, if they can't blame the Joos I guess they could miss it.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on October 17, 2012, 08:34:32 AM
Hmm, even ZH doesn't have anything on that.  Well, if they can't blame the Joos I guess they could miss it.

I got a little insider info.  ;)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on October 17, 2012, 10:01:40 AM
And apparently Zerohedge doesn't know everything nor where to look for it.

Quote
Iranian hackers took over a University of Michigan computer network during a massive cyber attack on U.S. financial systems last week that continued following comments on the strike by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

According to reports by a leading Internet security-monitoring firm, the cyber attacks against Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citibank, and several other U.S. financial institutions began Oct. 8 when hackers gained control of the university’s College of Engineering network in Ann Arbor.

The attack then used automated malicious software to simulate hundreds of thousands of attempts by customers to log in to the banks’ remote access portals, resulting in overloading the networks.

Some of the bank’s operations were slowed or otherwise disrupted, and others were halted during the attacks, which a well-placed security analyst said are continuing.

The company and the analyst declined to be identified over concerns that they would become a future target of cyber attackers.

The attacks began with cyber strikes against 75 ports on the Internet and were described as “severe,” continuously repeating strikes. The attacks eventually increased to digital probes on 167 ports. There are a total of 65,535 Internet ports.

At the height of the attacks, the report stated that the Iranian hackers targeted more than 68,500 sites that had produced automated monitoring responses that counted more than 641,000 malicious digital attacks.

The attackers used a method that involved the use of botnets, or zombies, software, and operating methods that covertly take over private or institutional computers remotely by implanting malicious software inside.

According to the report, one of the sources of the attacks originated from the University of Michigan College of Engineering network domain.

“There has been an outbreak of DNS probe [attacks] from what appears to be most, if not all the servers within the University of Michigan (UM) College Of Engineering network domain,” the report said, noting that 26 servers were involved.

The computer specialist said federal authorities were notified of the attacks and contacted the university, which eventually “unplugged” the entire attacking network.

However, the attackers had control over the network for about 24 hours.

The computer specialist said the attacks began falling off Thursday and were expected to end that day, coinciding with traditional Friday prayers in Iran. However, the attacks continued, and are continuing, in apparent reaction to the fact that Panetta confirmed the attacks late last week and threatened to take retaliatory action against major cyber strikes.

The company’s security report from Sunday stated that “the cyber attacks are still extremely severe and at a very high level.”

In a speech in New York City on Thursday, Panetta revealed for the first time that U.S. financial institutions were hit with distributed denial of service attacks.

“These attacks delayed or disrupted services on customer websites,” he said. “While this kind of tactic isn’t new, the scale and speed with which it happened was unprecedented.”

He did not single out Iran as the origin of the bank attacks, but in his speech to a business group said that Iran, along with China and Russia, operate sophisticated cyber attack capabilities.

More at link. (http://freebeacon.com/iran-strikes-back/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2012, 07:03:31 PM
Chi-Com's & Rooskies have been at this a long time, and the Persians trying to strike US & Israel is to be expected.  I've always thought the best thing we could do is get the best hackers we can get (in or out of prison) and exact some massive payback.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 17, 2012, 08:11:37 PM

These bchez want to shut down power plants and communication
at the same time then run some scuds.  They've got three months
till we're rid of Kommandor Fudamorek.  After that they better think
twice.  No prisoners.





Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2012, 12:16:08 PM
Dust off those neutron bomb designs, we'll want to seize mineral resources after the area has been removed of pests.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on October 18, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
WSJ (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444592704578063063201649282.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)

" WASHINGTON—Iranian hackers renewed a campaign of cyberattacks against U.S. banks this week, targeting Capital One Financial Corp. and BB&T Corp. and openly defying U.S. warnings to halt, U.S. officials and others involved in the investigation into the attacks said.

The attacks, which disrupted the banks' websites, showed the ability of the Iranian group to sustain its cyberassault on the nation's largest banks for a fifth week, even as it announced its plans to attack in advance."
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2012, 02:56:04 PM
Openly defying.  Like that is new behavior by those carpet-riding ass-clowns!

We should be openly killing the buildings these devils are operating out of.  Commence "Operation Demolition"!

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on October 18, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
Openly defying.  Like that is new behavior by those carpet-riding ass-clowns!

We should be openly killing the buildings these devils are operating out of.  Commence "Operation Demolition"!



 You forget who's in charge of the military. ::curtsy4::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 18, 2012, 07:17:56 PM
Openly defying.  Like that is new behavior by those carpet-riding ass-clowns!

We should be openly killing the buildings these devils are operating out of.  Commence "Operation Demolition"!



 You forget who's in charge of the military. ::curtsy4::

I forget nothing, not my fault a moron is calling the shots!   ::hat-tip::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 21, 2012, 04:55:10 PM

Iran Says Obama (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/21/iran-says-obama-sent-secret-message-through-swiss-envoy-recognizing-their-nuclear-rights/)
Sent Secret Message Through Swiss Envoy Recognizing Their Nuclear Rights…
TEHRAN (FNA) (http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171941)– Senior Iranian parliamentary sources revealed on Saturday that the Swiss envoy to Tehran has quoted US President Barack Obama as acknowledging Iran’s nuclear rights.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on October 21, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
Ordinarily I'd say "in a pig's eye; they taqqiya-lie"; however ......
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 22, 2012, 07:20:54 AM
Yeah, however...

 ::)   ::gaah::

We all knew this was going on Israel to solve one way or another.  The SCoaMF cannot be trusted.  Is it any wonder that such stalwart guardians of freedom and liberty like Putin, Castro & Chavez support Obama?  Why wouldn't they?  It is too easy to roll this weak-minded pussy, the last thing they need is a rational thinking person in the White House who knows what is in the best interest of the nation!

http://times247.com/articles/obama-receives-endorsements-from-three-dictators (http://times247.com/articles/obama-receives-endorsements-from-three-dictators)

We cannot expel this POS fast enough, the damage done to date already is massive!  The crap he'll load up in the bureaucratic pipeline will take half a term to flush!  The damage to our national security could take a full term to repair!  The economic damage alone may take more than a generation to repair!

 ::outrage::   ::cussing::   ::angry::   ::gaah::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 24, 2012, 07:38:58 PM

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-kills-one-second-day-gaza-strikes-062552365.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-kills-one-second-day-gaza-strikes-062552365.html)

Israel said it was "astounding" that Qatar, a U.S.-allied Gulf state, would take sides in the Palestinian dispute and endorse Hamas, branded by the West as a terrorist group. Hamas seized the Gaza Strip in 2007 from fighters loyal to the Fatah faction of Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 25, 2012, 07:39:22 AM
Enemies everywhere, and a lot of the credit for that can go the asswipe Obama and his appease/arm batshyt 7th century savages policy.

Sudan says Israel smacked them too, took out a arms complex benefiting their masters in Persia.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-sudan-airstrike-20121025,0,7930002.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-sudan-airstrike-20121025,0,7930002.story)

Good, hope these smackdowns hurt, gonna be a lot more coming!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on November 07, 2012, 06:02:11 PM
After the disaster of last nights election, I had a terrible thought:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-Dqntok-aHM/Sm9W2MlmP7I/AAAAAAAADdA/ThwI-fy6EEI/s400/Destroy+the+Jews.jpg)

What if God adds us to the list ::outrage::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 07, 2012, 06:36:03 PM
Unlike those other nations the US isn't trying to destroy Israel. But under Øblowme they are trying to ignore it to death.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
Yeah, Iran got a spankin' coming, Bibi knows with Stymie staying in power he'll get no help there, and the timetable only gets worse the longer you wait, so fireworks are definitely coming sooner.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 07, 2012, 09:12:26 PM
Yeah, Iran got a spankin' coming, Bibi knows with Stymie staying in power he'll get no help there, and the timetable only gets worse the longer you wait, so fireworks are definitely coming sooner.

 Drag Bambi into the war kicking and screaming all the way.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: LadyVirginia on November 07, 2012, 10:23:34 PM
Yeah, Iran got a spankin' coming, Bibi knows with Stymie staying in power he'll get no help there, and the timetable only gets worse the longer you wait, so fireworks are definitely coming sooner.

when?  I think perhaps by year end
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2012, 06:52:58 AM
Yeah, Iran got a spankin' coming, Bibi knows with Stymie staying in power he'll get no help there, and the timetable only gets worse the longer you wait, so fireworks are definitely coming sooner.

when?  I think perhaps by year end

Pretty much what I am thinking too, certainly when Congress is in recess and Obama is preoccupied with recess appointment mahem and where to blow millions at for holiday vacation...

It is possible Bibi had a timetable for either election result, if Romney had pulled it out I think there would have been an effort to coordinate things closer, as it is the timetable is now entirely contingent upon Israels own internal considerations.

I certainly don't see it going beyond next spring...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: benb61 on November 08, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Yeah, Iran got a spankin' coming, Bibi knows with Stymie staying in power he'll get no help there, and the timetable only gets worse the longer you wait, so fireworks are definitely coming sooner.

when?  I think perhaps by year end

I hope they wait till there is a contingent of US politicians in Iran to discuss their "right" to have nukes.  Perhaps even stymie will be there.  Maybe a stray weapon might kill some of the US envoy.  Who knows?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2012, 01:01:36 PM
Heh.

 ::evilbat::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on November 08, 2012, 06:59:08 PM
Unlike those other nations the US isn't trying to destroy Israel. But under Øblowme they are trying to ignore it to death.

I said this with a bit of tongue and cheek. But (I realize this is just my opinion and I could be wrong) I feel obama is sympathetic to Islam and he would like to see Israel removed and by not supporting Israel in the Iran crisis he is discretely aiding in the demise of Israel. I hope I am wrong.

 
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on November 08, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
Unlike those other nations the US isn't trying to destroy Israel. But under Øblowme they are trying to ignore it to death.

I said this with a bit of tongue and cheek. But (I realize this is just my opinion and I could be wrong) I feel obama is sympathetic to Islam and he would like to see Israel removed and by not supporting Israel in the Iran crisis he is discretely aiding in the demise of Israel. I hope I am wrong.

 

He is.  You're not.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 08, 2012, 07:13:52 PM
Unlike those other nations the US isn't trying to destroy Israel. But under Øblowme they are trying to ignore it to death.

I said this with a bit of tongue and cheek. But (I realize this is just my opinion and I could be wrong) I feel obama is sympathetic to Islam and he would like to see Israel removed and by not supporting Israel in the Iran crisis he is discretely aiding in the demise of Israel. I hope I am wrong.

 

He is.  You're not.

 Second that!! I don't trust that SOB as far as I can toss his azz.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 09, 2012, 07:14:40 AM
Israel should not count on the US goverment for anything for another four years and possibly quite longer than that, they should treat this Regime as hostile to its survival.

It makes me sick and angry to speak those words but I would be lying if I said it any different.

May God watch over Israel and her people.   ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 25, 2012, 11:15:16 AM
 ::cussing::  Iran!  Figures the Mullahs are taking advantage of the situation and arming up these jackasses even more!

More the reason to spank those Persians but good!

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=293324 (http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=293324)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 18, 2012, 07:51:28 AM
The electronic war in the Gulf -

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20121218.aspx (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20121218.aspx)

Grab a Persian by the tail!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Predator Don on December 18, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
Unlike those other nations the US isn't trying to destroy Israel. But under Øblowme they are trying to ignore it to death.

I said this with a bit of tongue and cheek. But (I realize this is just my opinion and I could be wrong) I feel obama is sympathetic to Islam and he would like to see Israel removed and by not supporting Israel in the Iran crisis he is discretely aiding in the demise of Israel. I hope I am wrong.

 

Magnum, sympathetic is an understatement. His entire life, his mentors, his books, his statements about the Muslim call to prayer, we are not a Christian nation.........he is a full blown supporter of Islam.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2013, 10:41:36 AM
Posting not because I know anything new, posting because the lack of information has me thinking...   ::thinking::

I guess 'ol Henry been thinking too...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21177535 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21177535)

"Unilateral intervention by Israel would be a desperate last resort, but the Iranians have to understand that if they keep using the negotiations to gain time to complete a nuclear programme then the situation will become extremely dangerous."

Brilliant Henry, the O'Bongo Regime is all about talking and that has amounted to...radical Hadji's going apesh*t everywhere...you say "desperation", Israel says "there is no other option"!

Jeesh!  Nobel peace laureate's!   ::mooning::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2013, 07:28:32 AM
Hmmm....   ::thinking::

Another hacking attack that created an explosion, or a sabotage effort?

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/28/israeli-officials-say-huge-explosion-rocked-iran-nuke-facility/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/28/israeli-officials-say-huge-explosion-rocked-iran-nuke-facility/)

I saw the original WND article and refrained from posting anything as they can be a little squirrely at times, thought I'd let this sit. 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-intelligence-confirms-blast-at-iranian-nuclear-facility/ (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-intelligence-confirms-blast-at-iranian-nuclear-facility/)

The Iranian denials are too swift and too generic, something happened, how and to what extent the damage is we'll have to see.  Could be just another preliminary effort to buy more time for preparing the bigger party to come.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 29, 2013, 11:07:18 AM

No confirmation on reports of Israeli aircraft sightings in the area;  Wouldn't that juice them up if it was a fact? Ha, they would know the Jews could fly in undetected any time they choose.  [img]crazyants[img]
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on January 29, 2013, 11:28:46 AM
I don't see the Israelis being interested in tipping their hand to any extent over their ability to penetrate Persian air defenses, so the aircraft blurb I think is factually wrong but I can see Mossad wanting that inserted into the story if for no other reason than to have the Iranians question it and perhpas chase phantoms and reveal weaknesses in the process.  The later would mean human assets on the ground, but I think there are several of those in-country already, so it seems like a possible scenario to me.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: AlanS on January 29, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
Unlike those other nations the US isn't trying to destroy Israel. But under Øblowme they are trying to ignore it to death.

I said this with a bit of tongue and cheek. But (I realize this is just my opinion and I could be wrong) I feel obama is sympathetic to Islam and he would like to see Israel removed and by not supporting Israel in the Iran crisis he is discretely aiding in the demise of Israel. I hope I am wrong.

 

Magnum, sympathetic is an understatement. His entire life, his mentors, his books, his statements about the Muslim call to prayer, we are not a Christian nation.........he is a full blown supporter of Islam.

And thus full blown anti-Semite.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 11, 2013, 07:01:48 AM
Darth O'Bongo set to visit Israel, warn Bibi to back off Iran (again, for the hundreth time!).

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/israeli-officials-obama-coming-to-israel-to-prevent-strike-on-iran/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/israeli-officials-obama-coming-to-israel-to-prevent-strike-on-iran/)

No doubt Duh Wun will schmooze opposition party clowns, stage some PR photo ops at Yad Vashem and the Wailing Wall...all while undermining Bibi and Israel.

Bibi really needs to take control of the meetings and tell this jackass to go screw himself!

Oh, and ask him why his choice for SecDef see's Israel as bigger threat than Iran and then kick him out of his nation!

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/hagel-israels-nukes-more-of-a-threat-than-irans/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/hagel-israels-nukes-more-of-a-threat-than-irans/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on February 11, 2013, 04:23:12 PM
Darth O'Bongo set to visit Israel, warn Bibi to back off Iran (again, for the hundreth time!).

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/israeli-officials-obama-coming-to-israel-to-prevent-strike-on-iran/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/israeli-officials-obama-coming-to-israel-to-prevent-strike-on-iran/)

No doubt Duh Wun will schmooze opposition party clowns, stage some PR photo ops at Yad Vashem and the Wailing Wall...all while undermining Bibi and Israel.

Bibi really needs to take control of the meetings and tell this jackass to go screw himself!

Oh, and ask him why his choice for SecDef see's Israel as bigger threat than Iran and then kick him out of his nation!

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/hagel-israels-nukes-more-of-a-threat-than-irans/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/10/hagel-israels-nukes-more-of-a-threat-than-irans/)


  He needs to leave him in the lobby while he has dinner with the wife and kids.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 14, 2013, 07:28:37 AM
As Hagel would say..."nothing to see here"...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/iranian-buying-spree-raises-concerns-about-major-expansion-of-nuclear-capacity/2013/02/13/2090805c-7537-11e2-8f84-3e4b513b1a13_print.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/iranian-buying-spree-raises-concerns-about-major-expansion-of-nuclear-capacity/2013/02/13/2090805c-7537-11e2-8f84-3e4b513b1a13_print.html)

Actually, Obama would say that, Biden, Brennan, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid...all the libiot asshats!

 ::gaah::

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 07, 2013, 11:39:49 AM
Hello!

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/3-explosions-heard-in-Tehran-near-missile-facility-312369 (http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/3-explosions-heard-in-Tehran-near-missile-facility-312369)

Mossad?

 ::saywhat::

 ::bustamove::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 07, 2013, 04:28:29 PM

All's quiet at the MSM.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 07, 2013, 08:14:51 PM

All's quiet at the MSM.

That ain't right...they'd normally be slamming Israel by now...I wonder if state-run media was told to hush...could be some deal is in the works where backs are being scratched in Jerusalem and DC...hopefully Bibi gets the better end of the deal, it's what I would expect anyway.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2013, 07:48:19 AM
Convoy in Syria snuffed out by IDF...just a matter of when not if the battle shifts from proxies to Iran itself.

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/28/report-israel-bombs-another-syrian-weapons-convoy-heading-for-hezbollah-in-lebanon/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/28/report-israel-bombs-another-syrian-weapons-convoy-heading-for-hezbollah-in-lebanon/)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 06, 2013, 07:44:30 AM
OK, these BatShiite-crazy Mahdi Muzzies acting up again, looks like there is a general desire to whup some buttocks, so, might as well crack a cold one and watch the game...ain't nobody listening to us anyway, so what else we gonna do?  The kids have taken over and told the adults to STFD & STFU, so...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323893004579057271019210230.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323893004579057271019210230.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Predator Don on September 06, 2013, 09:10:36 AM
My god.......somebody write Obama a campaign speech and stick a TelePrompTer in front of him. He is an embarrassment.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on September 06, 2013, 06:14:08 PM
 I don't know what more to say.

Obama ‘Vetoed’ Israeli Strike on Iran (http://freebeacon.com/report-obama-vetoed-israeli-strike-on-iran/)

Please pray for Israel.......................
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 07, 2013, 10:37:17 AM
There was never any doubt Israel is on her own, the Obama Regime does not have her best interests at heart, certainly not concerned with their survival.  The will have to act on their own and the time is running extremely short, they better be prepared to play hardball with Obama and forge ahead, they have no choice.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2013, 02:52:55 PM
Fresh off his Syrian screwup...O'Bongo targets Iran...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-says-iran-shouldnt-misinterpret-us-response-to-syria/2013/09/15/fd6f27cc-1e05-11e3-8459-657e0c72fec8_print.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-says-iran-shouldnt-misinterpret-us-response-to-syria/2013/09/15/fd6f27cc-1e05-11e3-8459-657e0c72fec8_print.html)

...in this case I think his talk is cheap.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on September 15, 2013, 06:20:07 PM
Fresh off his Syrian screwup...O'Bongo targets Iran...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-says-iran-shouldnt-misinterpret-us-response-to-syria/2013/09/15/fd6f27cc-1e05-11e3-8459-657e0c72fec8_print.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-says-iran-shouldnt-misinterpret-us-response-to-syria/2013/09/15/fd6f27cc-1e05-11e3-8459-657e0c72fec8_print.html)

...in this case I think his talk is cheap.

 All he is is cheap talk and arabs know it.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on September 16, 2013, 06:00:00 PM
Russia is now probably looked at as the major player in the Middle East by the arabs after the obama- Syria debacle.

(http://www.aim.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/obama-red-line-cartoon.jpg)

obama cannot be believed. It makes me sad to say that about an American President. I won't get into end time theology but from the Bible I believe Israel will not be scattered again nor destroyed this side of the Tribulation.

I do not know how this plays out but I feel now would be a good time to study the Bible and decide for yourselves if Jesus is really the Messiah.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2013, 07:19:04 AM
Bibi is right, but then anybody should be able to see it (though I expect the Aryan strain at ZeroHedge to be all over Bibi today)...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/23/world/middleeast/netanyahu-is-said-to-view-iran-deal-as-a-possible-trap.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/23/world/middleeast/netanyahu-is-said-to-view-iran-deal-as-a-possible-trap.html?_r=0)

If North Korea could play Clinton like a cheap violin what chance you think the chessplaying Persians have with O'Bongo?

O'Bongo and other assorted misfits are the only ones who fail to see it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Utcy2EaOaI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Utcy2EaOaI)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2013, 07:41:40 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10350285/Iranian-cyber-warfare-commander-shot-dead-in-suspected-assassination.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10350285/Iranian-cyber-warfare-commander-shot-dead-in-suspected-assassination.html)

Hmmm....motorbikes...where have I seen that before?    ::evil::

 ::hat-tip:: 

Well done!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on October 07, 2013, 05:55:38 PM
Gabriel Allon's work  ;)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2013, 07:21:36 AM
HaMisrad.   ;)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2013, 09:24:51 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/16/inside-the-ring-russia-to-test-new-missile/?page=3 (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/16/inside-the-ring-russia-to-test-new-missile/?page=3)

Time is running out.  Certainly they cannot wait much past next spring, or it may be too late...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2013, 07:16:09 PM
Crap, this is getting real faster than previously thought...if this report is anywhere near accurate (  ::whatgives:: ) time is really short.  Explains two things if true - 1) recent "we're swell guys, really!" campaign by Iran is meant to buy the time they need to get a workable device and 2) those cyber attacks and assassinations weren't as effective in delaying this as people thought.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/10/24/iran-bomb-one-month-away/3181373/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/10/24/iran-bomb-one-month-away/3181373/)

Bibi has an unavoidable and immensely problematic decision to act on.  God help us all.   ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
Tick, tock, tick, tock...

http://im41.com/archives/40418 (http://im41.com/archives/40418)

 ::gaah::   ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 29, 2013, 12:42:09 PM
If Israel takes action, I hope they do it completely - nothing withheld, without nukes turn the damned country into a glass parking lot (with bomb and rocket craters scattered around).
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
Agreed.  They cannot at this point leave anything behind that can threaten them again.  But that level of destruction will definitely bring in other players and ignite a wider regional conflict.  That being said I do not see Israel alone being able to achieve that conventionally, therefore they are left with crippling their program as severely as they can...and repeating the process as necessary.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on October 30, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
Agreed.  They cannot at this point leave anything behind that can threaten them again.  But that level of destruction will definitely bring in other players and ignite a wider regional conflict.  That being said I do not see Israel alone being able to achieve that conventionally, therefore they are left with crippling their program as severely as they can...and repeating the process as necessary.

As far as I'm concerned, the "other players" can also eat sh*t and die.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2013, 11:53:45 AM
Agreed.  They cannot at this point leave anything behind that can threaten them again.  But that level of destruction will definitely bring in other players and ignite a wider regional conflict.  That being said I do not see Israel alone being able to achieve that conventionally, therefore they are left with crippling their program as severely as they can...and repeating the process as necessary.

As far as I'm concerned, the "other players" can also eat sh*t and die.

If that were only the case...I'd send as much sh*t over I could afford to ship!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2013, 11:48:45 AM
Bolton nails it.  They have to act, nobody else will and waiting any longer just is not an option...

http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/bolton-israel-must-make-fateful-decision-on-iran-hit/ (http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/bolton-israel-must-make-fateful-decision-on-iran-hit/)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on November 04, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
Never again is what the Israelis live by. "It symbolizes the Jewish people’s collective resolve to never stand by the blood of their brethren and to never allow innocents to be brutalized for the crime of being Jewish."

I think Israel knows the time they must strike. They cannot afford to be wrong and I trust their intelligence because of this.

It sickens me beyond all that this administration is so antithetical to Israel in its time of need. Quite unlike the Nixon Administration:

in the movie "Against All Odds" it told:
Quote
"When Nixon was a little boy, his mother, a devout Quaker, prayed with him everyday. She told him once that someday he would grow up and be in a very powerful position at the same time that God's people, the Jews, would be in desperate need of help. She told him that when it happened HE MUST HELP THEM and for that reason HE WAS BORN."

When Meir had asked Sec. of State Kissinger for help he laughed at her, hung up the phone and said to those with him, "Israel needs to bleed a little.

Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir called Nixon in the middle of the night and begged him to help her country. She told him that they would not survive if he didn't. This stirred the memory of what his mother had told him so many years before.

Kissinger's rejection is the reason Golda Meir then called Richard Nixon and asked for his help. As soon as he hung up the phone, An incensed Nixon shouted at Kissinger, “[Expletive] it, use every one we have. Tell them to send everything that can fly.” Nixon began sending everything he could get into the air to Israel or they would have been wiped off the face of the earth within days.

BTW: Kissinger makes me  ::puke::

May God Protect Israel and May God Bless President Nixon and May he be in Gods Presence............
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2013, 04:20:29 PM
Amen.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 04, 2013, 09:03:30 PM
Great post Magnum!

Although I'm not a Jew and have only held a few as intimate friends in my life, I feel a special kinship with the Israelis. I've always recognized that our mutual futures are inextricably intertwined.

Oh, and yea - Dr. Strangelove, er Dr. Kissinger always gave me the creeps.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 05, 2013, 07:30:01 AM
Henry is a committed devotee of the pragmatic school of international relations and diplomacy...and with his ego and Machiavellian personality (read his auto-biography!) he is convinced he is the most intelligent being on the planet.  The one who needs to "bleed a little" is Henry.

Israel will act, I cannot believe they fail to recognize they are completely on their own, and they cannot survive long with a nuclear-armed Persia near by...

May God watch over the people of Israel and grant her defenders victory over her enemies.  May God have mercy upon us who fail to come to her aid in her time of greatest need.  May God's Will be done!
 ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: benb61 on November 05, 2013, 10:00:39 AM
Amen
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on November 06, 2013, 06:02:19 PM
Great post Magnum!

Although I'm not a Jew and have only held a few as intimate friends in my life, I feel a special kinship with the Israelis. I've always recognized that our mutual futures are inextricably intertwined.

Oh, and yea - Dr. Strangelove, er Dr. Kissinger always gave me the creeps.

Thanks Soup God Bless You!

I totally understand how some have a hard time supporting Israel considering there are many especially in our government (let alone all the producers, writers, actors, that have #$%ked up hollywood) that are my arch enemies. I mean really Frankenstein, Debbie big mouth, Schumer, Waxman,  Boxer of rocks, Franken etc. I have an intense dislike and loathing for these people.

To be honest I have infinitely more in common and I have oodles more affection with/for a Conservative Atheist than a Leftest Jew.

Their are many Jews  however who are Godly, good and decent. That love their families, their friends........ Who love others whether they are Jew or Gentile. Who worry about and help those in need. And above all else are concerned about the souls of others and want nothing more than for others to have a relationship with the Lord and will do anything to help others in their journey.   And who absolutely without question love this country beyond words.

For me to see the only democracy in the hell hole of the middle east and knowing the decency of the Israeli people ( and yes I admit I am biased). People who want nothing more to live in peace and who want to be left alone and yet are surrounded by unimaginable hatred and are surrounded by those who are obsessed with destroying them..................How this administration can turn their backs on them in their time of need is unconscionable to me and my loathing of this administration gets stronger each day..............
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on November 07, 2013, 11:42:51 AM
  If Israel goes for it Bambi will have to go for it kicking and screaming all the way. As a matter of fact I bet he's praying to whoever he prays to that Israel does it soon so it will take the heat off all the bullcrap he's ivolved in.

 ::thinking::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: ToddF on November 08, 2013, 09:33:14 AM
Considering Bambi at this minute is telling Iran that if they like their nuclear weapons, they can keep their nuclear weapons.  One thing we all know that unlike promises made to the American people, Bambi means it when addressing Iran.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
Obama just bent Israel over...again...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-rejects-completely-mooted-nuclear-deal-iran-081555128.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-rejects-completely-mooted-nuclear-deal-iran-081555128.html)

...and in fact he's been playing Patty-cake with the batshyt-crazy Persians since last June...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/08/exclusive-obama-s-secret-iran-d-tente.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/08/exclusive-obama-s-secret-iran-d-tente.html)

Bibi looks seriously distraught over the magnitude of this foolishness...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/netanyahu-bad-deal-very-very-bad-deal_766449.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/netanyahu-bad-deal-very-very-bad-deal_766449.html)

If Bibi was smart he'd use this retarded gathering as cover to launch as full-scale an attack as they can possibly manage and hit them as ahrd as they can...oh, and maybe lob something at these idiots at this meeting while your at it...send two messages to get your point across!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 17, 2013, 09:12:57 AM
Strange bedfellows...and a big F-U from the House of Saud to the former bowing idiot in the WH...

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-to-be-working-with-saudi-arabia-on-iran-strike-plan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-to-be-working-with-saudi-arabia-on-iran-strike-plan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

...but Israel needs to do what she needs to do to survive and if that means working with an enemy then so be it, and the Saudis feel the same way because they really don't like the scheming Shia's running things in Persia.  Once the threat is removed it will be back to business as usual...but I think the Saudis are going to take a heck of a lot more heat in the aftermath and from mostly in its own Muzzie ranks.

Yeah, whatever...the Saudis know there Petro-Empire has an expiration date and they need to buy more time to figure out their post-oil survival.

Interesting times ahead.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on November 18, 2013, 07:07:01 AM
This is good!

US to Israel - No.

France to Israel - Oui!

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-eastnorth-africa/190509-netanyahu-jabs-obama-on-iran (http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-eastnorth-africa/190509-netanyahu-jabs-obama-on-iran)

 ::mooning::  Obama!

Yaakov Amidror - “We don’t need permission from anyone – we are an independent state," “We have our own sovereignty. If Israel is in a position in which Israel must defend itself, Israel will do it.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/481f39fe-4f95-11e3-b06e-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2l06d2pDK (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/481f39fe-4f95-11e3-b06e-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2l06d2pDK)

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 11, 2013, 11:54:53 AM
Judgement Day approaches...

Let us witness the depth of the US bretayal of Israel...

The amount Iran gets in relief of sanctions is not $7B but closer to $20B (and that will likely grow)...and what did we get?  Iran planning on building more nuclear reactors...

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/11/report-obama-regime-officials-now-admit-iran-will-get-20-billion-from-sanctions-relief-not-7-billion-as-previously-claimed/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/11/report-obama-regime-officials-now-admit-iran-will-get-20-billion-from-sanctions-relief-not-7-billion-as-previously-claimed/)

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/gulf-leaders-concerned-iran-39-plans-more-nuclear-113104073.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/gulf-leaders-concerned-iran-39-plans-more-nuclear-113104073.html)

PEACE WAR in our Time!  That is what Neville Kerry gave Hussein Obama!  God will not look favorably on the United States, nope, His wrath will be fierce!  And Israel as no other option left on their table but preemptive unilateral attack.  God be with them!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 12, 2013, 11:56:42 AM
Norman Podhoretz: Strike Iran Now to Avert Disaster Later - A conventional-weapons attack is preferable to the nuclear war sure to come (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303560204579246142096554348?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion)

Aye.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: oldcoastie6468 on December 12, 2013, 02:29:02 PM
I wish the Israelis would pee or get off the pot. How long will we have to wait for them to do the right thing?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on December 12, 2013, 02:44:03 PM
Patience, Grasshopper...

No new moon until Jan 1st...New Years could really see some fireworks for Persians...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 12, 2014, 11:31:37 AM
Cross-posted from here... http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=11075.new#new (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=11075.new#new)

http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-pm-says-irans-nuclear-program-clear-present-120332553.html;_ylt=Att39mPLCnaljJM6znKTz8vQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBsNWFkOTNlBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMyBHNlYwNzcg-- (http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-pm-says-irans-nuclear-program-clear-present-120332553.html;_ylt=Att39mPLCnaljJM6znKTz8vQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBsNWFkOTNlBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMyBHNlYwNzcg--)

Kinda surprised at the length of Israels patience...I cannot believe that will last much longer...

I remember an America that would have agreed with Bibi without having to be asked...

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2014, 07:58:45 AM
Another warning...

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Israeli-defense-official-Iran-can-break-out-to-nuclear-weapons-very-quickly-352745 (http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Israeli-defense-official-Iran-can-break-out-to-nuclear-weapons-very-quickly-352745)

But counting on anything from the Obama Regime to stop the Persian's from building a bomb is dangerously stupid!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2014, 07:38:31 AM
As if they don't have enough to worry about...Iran, Syria, Iraq...a Muzzie Puppet in the White House...now these ISIS clowns say they have "access" to nukes and like all Muzzies long to do, they want to "nuke Israel"...

http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/iraq-invaders-threaten-nuke-attack-on-israel/ (http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/iraq-invaders-threaten-nuke-attack-on-israel/)

Pretty sure that won't go over well...

Tick, tock, tick, tock...

FYI - Linking this story to the ISIS thread.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2015, 07:42:07 AM
Obama freezes Israel out of negotiation surrender talks with Iran (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4626919,00.html) that will allow Iran to make nukes, build new plants and generally do whatever the Hell they like.

Is Obama this petty?  Of course, we've seen it time and time again, Mr "I Won" is the worst kind of narcissist.  But this level of insanity can get millions of people killed in a flash.

Israel has to stop pussyfooting around, I doubt they have the time to wait Obama out and hope somebody less psychotic succeeds him.  The latter is by far no sure thing and time only benefits the Persians!

They have their elections to worry about right now and they have to put that aside and then get on with business, and job #1 is to publically break with the Obama Regime.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2015, 06:51:32 AM
Wow, this is good.  This is really good!

“But if there is someone who thinks it is a good (Iran nuclear) deal, why is there a need to hide it?” - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Netanyahu-If-theres-a-good-nuclear-deal-with-Iran-then-why-hide-it-391235 (http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Netanyahu-If-theres-a-good-nuclear-deal-with-Iran-then-why-hide-it-391235)

Heh.  That will set the prog heads spinning off!

More, please!!!   ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 24, 2015, 08:30:38 AM
Well, Bibi and I are right...

Obama Regime dumbing down Iran nuke deal (http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-02-24/obama-white-house-lowers-bar-for-iran-nuke-deal)...

Yeah, this will end really bad...

Wrap up this election in Israel, Bibi, then tell the Obama Regime to piss off and you take care of your people because nobody else is giving a rats ass!

Sorry about Obama, it's not all of our fault...we warned people, nobody cared...

You are in our boat now, take care of yourselves!   ;)   ::praying::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 25, 2015, 11:40:01 AM
Obama's Persian pals shoot up a mock up of an American carrier in the Persian Gulf...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/02/iranian-regime-defiant-menacing-as-obama-fights-for-nuke-agreement-with-them/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/02/iranian-regime-defiant-menacing-as-obama-fights-for-nuke-agreement-with-them/)

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-r8nW_UIAEIWV-.png)

Yeah....OK.  I mock their mock up!

First, nowhere near big enough.

And obviously nobody shooting back.

And just as obviously...no screening vessels, nobody tracking and targeting you and your command and control, nobody sending aircraft and sub-surface assets at you, nobody really giving you a second thought...

 ::mooning::

Good humor though, Achmed, keep trying. 
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2015, 06:55:55 AM
PM Netanyahu - "...world powers had pledged to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, adding that 'from the agreement coming together it appears they have given up on this commitment'."

http://news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-accuses-west-forsaking-non-nuclear-iran-pledge-171606084.html (http://news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-accuses-west-forsaking-non-nuclear-iran-pledge-171606084.html)

Yup.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on February 27, 2015, 10:53:00 AM
Obama has successfully used Netanyahu’s speech as a distraction moving the narrative away from the substantive issues regarding Iran. Rather than talking about the implications of a nuclear Iran and content of a final status agreement, the media is enthralled with the Netanyahu/Obama spat. Reporting during and after the speech may very well focus on how many Democrats boycotted rather than the content of the speech.

Elliot Abrams concludes that there are three motivations for Obama’s current temper tantrum:

 
to damage and defeat Netanyahu (whom Obama has always disliked simply because he is on the right while Obama is on the left) in his election campaign, to prevent Israel from affecting the Iran policy debate in the United States, and worst of all to diminish Israel’s popularity in the United States and especially among Democrats.


Historically speaking, Netanyahu’s speech may very well be the most important since World War II. At this point, only Congress can stop Obama from caving to the Mullahs and forever changing the world. (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/obama_brings_his_gun_to_the_fight_with_israel_.html)

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2015, 07:53:52 AM
OK, now this really pisses me off to no end!!!

Want to know why Israel has not gone after Iran yet?

The Bethlehem-based news agency Ma’an has cited a Kuwaiti newspaper report Saturday, that US President Barack Obama thwarted an Israeli military attack against Iran's nuclear facilities in 2014 by threatening to shoot down Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran. (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966#!)

I can totally believe Obama did this and I can totally believe an asshole like Rice or anyone else listening to a failed Carter assclown like Brzezinski would push for such a despicable threat!

Plus, I would like to have seen this bluff called.  Sure the MFM is as big a Israel-hater as Obama and the rest of his minions...but the picture of US warplanes shooting down Israeli jets on the way to bomb Iranian nuke facilities could have been a electoral bonanza for Bibi at home.

I think he may have missed an opportunity to shame the US and demonize Obama and cement stronger actions against their enemies had some volunteers stepped up to take American missiles.

And in the next despicable and totally predictable act by the Israel-haters in ObamaLand...Obama isn't waiting for an advance copy let alone the speech and are openly attacking it before it is delivered (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/28/world/middleeast/white-house-offers-rebuttal-before-netanyahus-speech-on-iran.html?_r=0).

I certainly hope and pray Bibi puts a final marker down, outs in detail all the nefarious maneuverings and threats of this hostile Obama Regime and decides to act.

America under Obama is a dark and evil place...plan, and act, accordingly.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
What has Anti-Israel scum on the inside (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/at-least-34-democrats-will-boycott-netanyahus-congressional-speech-on-security-of-israel/) and Jew-hating scum on the outside (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/video-protesters-chant-for-extermination-of-israel-at-aipac2015-wave-hezbollah-flag/) and just plain stinks and needs to be ended?

If you guessed the American Left...you win a cookie.

PS - Look for the Obama Regime to spike this ill-timed IAEA statement that Iran is still stonewalling Saddam-style, (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/un-nuclear-watchdog-says-iranian-regime-is-still-hiding-info-on-nuclear-program/) nothing, not even the absolute certainty that anything Iran signs will not be worth wiping your ass with...will stop the mad dash of Obama & the Dem's to secure peace in their time PR coup to beat over the heads of Jews and Jew-lovers.  And yes, I am pretty sure it is that simple and that scary.

(http://4-ps.googleusercontent.com/hk/9dO3E1tyAM9FEJoQjUgzLfLy1j/www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/542x575xiran-missile-sites.png.pagespeed.ic.76NhdZZ2Rvi0akNeR5s_.jpg)

Talk about a target rich environment.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on March 02, 2015, 02:39:39 PM
One of Barry's top advisers even advocated once for us to INVADE Israel as a "peace keeping force!"  That should have prevented her from being ANYWHERE near government. But, she works for Barry now.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 02, 2015, 02:56:00 PM
One of Barry's top advisers even advocated once for us to INVADE Israel as a "peace keeping force!"  That should have prevented her from being ANYWHERE near government. But, she works for Barry now.

I guess it was Barry or ISIS...

Big diff.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on March 02, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
Samantha Powers.  Cass Sunstein's ("Nudge") wife.  She's Obongo's Ambassador to the UN now.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on March 02, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
OK, now this really pisses me off to no end!!!

Want to know why Israel has not gone after Iran yet?

The Bethlehem-based news agency Ma’an has cited a Kuwaiti newspaper report Saturday, that US President Barack Obama thwarted an Israeli military attack against Iran's nuclear facilities in 2014 by threatening to shoot down Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran. (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966#!)

I can totally believe Obama did this and I can totally believe an asshole like Rice or anyone else listening to a failed Carter assclown like Brzezinski would push for such a despicable threat!

Plus, I would like to have seen this bluff called.  Sure the MFM is as big a Israel-hater as Obama and the rest of his minions...but the picture of US warplanes shooting down Israeli jets on the way to bomb Iranian nuke facilities could have been a electoral bonanza for Bibi at home.

I think he may have missed an opportunity to shame the US and demonize Obama and cement stronger actions against their enemies had some volunteers stepped up to take American missiles.

And in the next despicable and totally predictable act by the Israel-haters in ObamaLand...Obama isn't waiting for an advance copy let alone the speech and are openly attacking it before it is delivered (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/28/world/middleeast/white-house-offers-rebuttal-before-netanyahus-speech-on-iran.html?_r=0).

I certainly hope and pray Bibi puts a final marker down, outs in detail all the nefarious maneuverings and threats of this hostile Obama Regime and decides to act.

America under Obama is a dark and evil place...plan, and act, accordingly.

There are few who resent this man as much as me but I sure hope 'the one' would not even try this. How many in the military would obey this order? I know if I was in the military I could never ever follow this order. Wouldn't some general or other officers have spoken up? Could he have really gotten by through giving this order with nobody speaking out? If this is true this man is more evil than I could ever have imagined.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2015, 07:11:07 AM
OK, now this really pisses me off to no end!!!

Want to know why Israel has not gone after Iran yet?

The Bethlehem-based news agency Ma’an has cited a Kuwaiti newspaper report Saturday, that US President Barack Obama thwarted an Israeli military attack against Iran's nuclear facilities in 2014 by threatening to shoot down Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran. (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966#!)

I can totally believe Obama did this and I can totally believe an asshole like Rice or anyone else listening to a failed Carter assclown like Brzezinski would push for such a despicable threat!

Plus, I would like to have seen this bluff called.  Sure the MFM is as big a Israel-hater as Obama and the rest of his minions...but the picture of US warplanes shooting down Israeli jets on the way to bomb Iranian nuke facilities could have been a electoral bonanza for Bibi at home.

I think he may have missed an opportunity to shame the US and demonize Obama and cement stronger actions against their enemies had some volunteers stepped up to take American missiles.

And in the next despicable and totally predictable act by the Israel-haters in ObamaLand...Obama isn't waiting for an advance copy let alone the speech and are openly attacking it before it is delivered (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/28/world/middleeast/white-house-offers-rebuttal-before-netanyahus-speech-on-iran.html?_r=0).

I certainly hope and pray Bibi puts a final marker down, outs in detail all the nefarious maneuverings and threats of this hostile Obama Regime and decides to act.

America under Obama is a dark and evil place...plan, and act, accordingly.

There are few who resent this man as much as me but I sure hope 'the one' would not even try this. How many in the military would obey this order? I know if I was in the military I could never ever follow this order. Wouldn't some general or other officers have spoken up? Could he have really gotten by through giving this order with nobody speaking out? If this is true this man is more evil than I could ever have imagined.

I would like to think a pilot with any sense or conscience at all would question such an order to fire on a long-time ally...but this is the Obama Regime we are talking about, so yes, I am affraid we are talking about evil.  Look at his actions.  Look how many have been sacrificed and continue to take his orders.  Look at how many officers have been purged from the ranks.  Look who he surrounds himself with.  This is not an accident or a difference in approach or attitude, this is all by design.  And the entire Democrat Party has been taken over by far left-wing radicals, they are the mainstream...can you name one conservative Democrat?  I cannot.  And these radicals all love Pali's and detest Israeli's.  The math is that simple.

I think Israel has no choice.  I think Bibi has to take out Iran now, I don't think waiting it out and seeing who might replace Obama is going to work, he could very well end up with Lizzie Warren or some other Muzzie-loving lunatic as the E-GOP likely will fvck up another presidential election cycle.  I think he has to arm everything he has and send it to Iran, and it is perhaps only the Saudi's that will allow him and the Saudi's will lean on the Jordanian's to let them use their airspace too, so if Obama is going to shoot down Israeli jets on the way to Iran it will have to be using land and sea assets in the Persian Gulf.  And he will have to warn Obama - shooting down his jets will mean he has no choice and has to go nuclear to take out Iran...let all the other nations know the warning too...and let Obama wear that blame.

ETA -

More evidence of the evil intentions of Obama:

Obama calls Netanyahu a liar, (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-says-netanyahu-wrong-iran-230007601.html) a tactic typically only reserved for ones deepest enemies.

Obama's National Security Advisor tells Israeli's their demands are unachievable, (http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/02/susan-rice-tells-israel-lobbyists-their-demands-are-unachievable/) which is saying Israel has to live at the mercy of its worst enemies...since their chief "demand" is to exist unmolested...so basically they are saying what Israel's enemies are saying...

Obama plans on spending the time during Netanyahu's speech in the White House Situation Room, (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/barack-obama-benjamin-netanyahu-speech-congress-115690.html) no doubt getting ready to issue those kill orders to American soldiers to fire on Israeli pilots enroute to Iran.

Israel does not have one single friend in the Obama Regime, zero.  I am ashamed that such people are even called American's...I renounce them and curse them...may they and their seed perish from the Earth!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on March 03, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Excellent points Libertas. I have to accept the fact we have a administration that truly hates Born Again Believers, Conservatives, the Constitution and those who care for and support Israel...............

I take what God says in the utmost of importance and truth when He says "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who treat you with contempt. All the families on earth will be blessed through you.” Genesis 12:3

I look up to the mountains—
    does my help come from there?
My help comes from the Lord,
    who made heaven and earth!
He will not let you stumble;
    the one who watches over you will not slumber.
Indeed, he who watches over Israel
    never slumbers or sleeps.
The Lord himself watches over you!
    The Lord stands beside you as your protective shade.
The sun will not harm you by day,
    nor the moon at night.
The Lord keeps you from all harm
    and watches over your life.
The Lord keeps watch over you as you come and go,
    both now and forever. Psalm 121

I understand what Jonah must of felt like. I want God to bring swift and extreme judgment on this administration. I know God will in His time but I am not a very patient person..............
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Yeah, I suck at patience too...I think the Big Guy knows that though...I've given Him plenty of examples...

Well, what did we think of Bibi's speech to Congress?

The highlights -

"Why would anyone make this nuclear deal with Iran?"
 
"The foremost sponsor of global terrorism could be weeks away from an entire arsenal of nuclear weapons."
 
“If Iran wants to be treated like a normal country, let it act like a normal country.”
 
"Iran needs the nuclear deal more than you do."
 
"This is a very bad deal. We’d be better off without it.  The alternative to a bad deal is a much better deal."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/netanyahu-to-us-congress-this-is-a-very-bad-deal-wed-be-better-off-without-it-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/netanyahu-to-us-congress-this-is-a-very-bad-deal-wed-be-better-off-without-it-video/)

When it comes to Iran and ISIS," Netanyahu warns America, "the enemy of your enemy is your enemy."

“A nuclear nightmare” could approach soon with the Obama Iran deal.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/netanyahu-speech-before-congress/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/netanyahu-speech-before-congress/)

I like how The Speaker gave Bibi the Churchill bust, another dig at the Churchill hating prick in the White House...only a man like Churchill can appreciate Churchill, only a man unaffraid to speak the truth appreciates the truth when spoken.

And what does Bibi get for speaking the truth?

Iranian Supreme Leader and Close Personal Friend of President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry goes off on a Jew-hating screed (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/iranian-supreme-leader-khamenei-goes-off-on-jew-hating-tirade-before-netanyahu-speech/), andn it sounds equal part PaulBot and Obama Regime ranting.

But Bibi did make the succubus Pelosi squirm and hightail it out of there (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/414744/pelosi-exits-chamber-netanyahu-joel-gehrke), so that was a plus!

And this line is pure gold - I'm standing here in Washington, D.C., and the difference is so stark," Netanyahu said. "America's founding document promises life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Iran's founding document pledges death, tyranny, and the pursuit of jihad, and states are collapsing across the Middle East." (http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/here-s-what-benjamin-netanyahu-wants-congress-to-know-20150303)

Let Obama stand with hate, let Obama earn the nuclear holocaust that will be unleashed as a result of his hatred of Israel...

Where will his soul be, and the souls of his minions and associates? 
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 03, 2015, 11:57:11 AM
There were a lot of dhimmi faces there that swore they wouldn't attend ;')
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on March 03, 2015, 12:38:22 PM
WOW! I almost forgot what a real leader is like.

Benjamin Netanyahu Speech to Congress 2015 | The New York Times (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRf1cdw4IAY#ws)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2015, 01:24:43 PM
There were a lot of dhimmi faces there that swore they wouldn't attend ;')

The chamber would have smelled better...and looked better.

I like how these DemoPukes couldn't run fast enough to the exits and start slamming Netanyahu.

They should re-read Pan's tag line...

Let us say for the sake of argmument it is bad form of Speaker Boehner to invite Bibi to speak to Congress, let us forget Obama never answered The Speaker the last time he approached him about something like that, let us say it was to show up Obama, despite the fact that if Obama is so secure in his position on Israel and Iran that he has nothing to fear, let us assume Bibi's speech has a political angle, and let us ignore the fact that Obama people are running all over Israel working to defeat Netanyahu's re-election...let us assume all of that...everything Netanyahu said is 100% true!  So, tell me libiot poopieheads, how all your pissing and moaning helps you or your President or Iran or anybody one damn bit?!

Idiots! 

Your Dear Fool is rushing headlong into a Persian Pooty in full pucker and only a complete and utter dipsh*t can fail to see it!  And worse yet you don't give a damn what it does to Israel because in your diseased Pali-loving Muzzie-cowering crap-filled heads the only good Israel is an Israel that caves in to every Pali and Muzzie demand like the Pubbies cave into your pathetic crap!

Guess what?  Most in Israel are not suicidally stupid like you or cowering bed-weeting types like the E-GOP...better get used to it!!!

PS-I'll be watching your link Mag's...it is likely the only leadership to be seen for a while...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 03, 2015, 01:29:34 PM
There's another thing I noticed.

In the days leading up to Bibi's appearance the Øbongo regime did their damnedest to trash and diminish the import of his event. They sounded petty, desperate, and mean.

On Monday it reached a fever pitch - but on a different tack. Now they were trying to pass the whole thing off as just an insignificant misunderstanding. They even got lurch out there to do damage control. Of course his way of trying to be a calming influence is to dowse himself with gasoline and light a match.  So now they looked petty, desperate, and silly.

Score: Bibi 1 - Øbongo -10,000

 ::hysterical::

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 03, 2015, 01:55:22 PM
Oh yeah...we got some of those poisoning of the well links further above in this thread...

And did you hear that assface respond after the speech?  He dared say he didn't watch it (a blantant lie I would bet on!) but he read a transcript and pissed on it saying "nothing new" there..."no viable alternatives"...

What a steaming pile!  The "new" is an American POTUS for the first time ever negotiating with a terrorist regime...THE TERRORIST REGIME in the Middle East...what is new is givng THE TERRORIST REGIME approval to build a nuke...what is new is TRUSTING THE TERRORIST REGIME.  I guess Obama didn't read Kahmenei's responses...or he agrees with them, either way it is dark, evil and sick!

And alternative plan?  Umm, stop them!  Blockade them, sanction them, freeze every account we can find and the ones we can't reach we poison.  We destroy shipments to their nation we suspect the contents of.  If we have to we blow their asses a new hole!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on March 03, 2015, 07:38:17 PM
Oh yeah...we got some of those poisoning of the well links further above in this thread...

And did you hear that assface respond after the speech?  He dared say he didn't watch it (a blantant lie I would bet on!) but he read a transcript and pissed on it saying "nothing new" there..."no viable alternatives"...

What a steaming pile!  The "new" is an American POTUS for the first time ever negotiating with a terrorist regime...THE TERRORIST REGIME in the Middle East...what is new is givng THE TERRORIST REGIME approval to build a nuke...what is new is TRUSTING THE TERRORIST REGIME.  I guess Obama didn't read Kahmenei's responses...or he agrees with them, either way it is dark, evil and sick!

And alternative plan?  Umm, stop them!  Blockade them, sanction them, freeze every account we can find and the ones we can't reach we poison.  We destroy shipments to their nation we suspect the contents of.  If we have to we blow their asses a new hole!


  The whole WH sat and watched the entire speech and anybody that believes the liar in chief didn't is a damned fool. He expects anybody to believe that he had the self control to "read the transcripts"of a 43 minute speech instead of watching it is beyond retarded.  He hates the man because he is everything that banby isn't BIBI is a flipping real leader and a man to be admired and respected by all!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 04, 2015, 07:06:07 AM
Can't argue with that JF!

And did y'all see the DemonRats throwing their pooh about?!

Man, are they just a ugly-mean bunch of little ignorant brats!

It is really impossible to tell the difference between this -

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/wow-democrats-lash-out-at-netanyahu-tell-him-to-go-home-call-him-a-child/# (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/wow-democrats-lash-out-at-netanyahu-tell-him-to-go-home-call-him-a-child/#)!

...and this -

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/AntiLeftist/OWS.jpg)

...they all ooze from the same sewer!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 06, 2015, 11:31:13 AM
Speaking of sewage...

(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Screen-Shot-2015-03-06-at-10.18.40-AM.png)

http://weaselzippers.us/216260-wh-hits-new-low-in-anti-netanyahu-campaign-promote-anti-israel-cnn-hack-fareed-zakarias-attack-piece-on-bibi/ (http://weaselzippers.us/216260-wh-hits-new-low-in-anti-netanyahu-campaign-promote-anti-israel-cnn-hack-fareed-zakarias-attack-piece-on-bibi/)

This is the NSC, this is that filthy scrunt Rice, right hand of Hussein O, the same people who threw that BS at everyone about O's big beef with the Netanyahu visit is to avoid interjecting politics into affairs of state!  Remember that whopper of a lie?  I guess lying ones ass off and sending in political hacks to target Netanyahu is their idea on non-partisan diplomacy...just like using minions at the NSC to pimp out Jew-hating propaganda to idiots stupid enough to follow these demons postings!

This scum in the White House is no different than ISIS!!!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 16, 2015, 08:05:02 AM
Talk about dark times...the US is in the grips of psycho's, the Euro's are plumb crazy and ready to fracture, Russia is feeling its totalitarian gene throbbing, China seems intent in devouring all of Asia one way or another...and Israel could fall into the hands of the stupendously naive (http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-centre-left-party-tops-opinion-polls-ahead-084434126.html) and help Darth Obama guarantee Iran goes nuke happy and the Pali's get rewarded for being murderous scum.

The world is one bleeped up place...



Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 17, 2015, 06:41:36 AM
On eve of election Bibi emphatically states "no Palestinian state" (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/world/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-campaign-settlement.html?_r=0).  If in fact his problem more of getting out his vote perhaps that will clinch if, if not...

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on March 17, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
You know what this #*$&^&*administration did. The president I am sure with jarrett's blessing sent their cronies and money under the cover of OneVoice to funnel the assets to the V15 group in essence taking our the tax payers money to do everything they can do to defeat Prime Minister Netanyahu. They are supporting the ultra ultra lefty Isaac Herzog who wants Israel to go back to 1967 borders, supports what this @&*^& # administration is doing with Iran, wants a Palestinian State that divides Jerusalem, and made a big push to bring more Islamics to the polls. Prue Blasphemy! IMHO.

Guess what Herzog's campaign slogan was? Yup, Hope and Change. You can't make this stuff up.

But Thank God after listening to Yoni Tidi I am a bit more optimistic. Yoni is convinced that Netanyahu will win. Israel when it is all said and done wants a strong brave leader who will do everything possible to keep Israel safe and secure.

On top of this to get me more agitated if that is possible:As nuke talks intensify, WH celebrates Iranian holiday

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/235735-as-nuke-talks-intensify-wh-celebrates-iranian-holiday (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/235735-as-nuke-talks-intensify-wh-celebrates-iranian-holiday)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on March 17, 2015, 08:18:20 PM
There's been talk for a bit now of Obongo's front group in Israel doing their community agitator thingie and bussing in Arabs for voting.

I hope Netanyahu prevails but if he doesn't then God help Israel.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on March 17, 2015, 08:46:22 PM
Breaking: NETANYAHU WINS Israeli Election – Declares Victory (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/breaking-exit-polls-in-israel-show-small-netanyahu-lead/)

Praise God!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 17, 2015, 10:17:16 PM
From one of my FReeper buddies...

(http://i.imgur.com/GeXlhdV.gif)


 ::danceban::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on March 17, 2015, 11:12:31 PM
Quote
Genesis 12:1-3

12
  Now Jehovah said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto the land that I will show thee: 2 and I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make they name great; and be thou a blessing; 3 and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
End of official Biblical translation.
____________________________________________________________________________
And verily, that goeth double for the b*tch in the Oval Office.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2015, 07:07:44 AM
You know what this #*$&^&*administration did. The president I am sure with jarrett's blessing sent their cronies and money under the cover of OneVoice to funnel the assets to the V15 group in essence taking our the tax payers money to do everything they can do to defeat Prime Minister Netanyahu. They are supporting the ultra ultra lefty Isaac Herzog who wants Israel to go back to 1967 borders, supports what this @&*^& # administration is doing with Iran, wants a Palestinian State that divides Jerusalem, and made a big push to bring more Islamics to the polls. Prue Blasphemy! IMHO.

Guess what Herzog's campaign slogan was? Yup, Hope and Change. You can't make this stuff up.

But Thank God after listening to Yoni Tidi I am a bit more optimistic. Yoni is convinced that Netanyahu will win. Israel when it is all said and done wants a strong brave leader who will do everything possible to keep Israel safe and secure.

On top of this to get me more agitated if that is possible:As nuke talks intensify, WH celebrates Iranian holiday

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/235735-as-nuke-talks-intensify-wh-celebrates-iranian-holiday (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/235735-as-nuke-talks-intensify-wh-celebrates-iranian-holiday)

I hear ya Mag's...the Obama Regime is the most toxic filth ever to ooze in the White House...

And I don't know your source, but hang onto that guy, he apparently knows his stuff...the pundits were wrong again (http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647304#!), thank God!  It would appear to me that by courting Arabs, openly saying you will capitulate to the Arabs, Iranians and Obama, letting Obamites operate on your behalf...and even adopting the False Prophet symbolism of the Sith...combined with Bibi's firmness in meeting all enemies head on...doomed the Herzog campaign.

Oh, I bet O'Bongo is in one shatty mood...I bet he thought he had a second non-tainted peace prize in his grasp...now all he has his a handful of shat!

Bibi will be bouyed by this, he will be stronger...

It is nice to have good news for a change!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 18, 2015, 10:52:31 AM
Once more because it's so irresistible ;')

(http://gifs.gifbin.com/122010/1291664255_obama-kiks-door-open.gif)

Blue-lips and his Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2015, 11:18:55 AM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Screen-Shot-2015-03-18-at-11.15.44-AM-550x339.png)

http://weaselzippers.us/217610-john-kerry-refuses-to-even-address-netanyahu-election-victory/ (http://weaselzippers.us/217610-john-kerry-refuses-to-even-address-netanyahu-election-victory/)

Their attitude just screams violently loud, doesn't it?

No more so than the Top Turd herself...

http://weaselzippers.us/217605-white-house-avoids-congratulating-netanyahu-during-cnn-interview/ (http://weaselzippers.us/217605-white-house-avoids-congratulating-netanyahu-during-cnn-interview/)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/oirandeal_zpslaiy5dib.jpg)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 18, 2015, 01:49:32 PM
This is too easy...

(https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1849/545/original.jpg?w=600&h)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 18, 2015, 03:33:45 PM
Bwaaahaaa!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/equationoftime/bibi1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 19, 2015, 06:38:06 AM
Heh, love it! 

So stealin' that one!

This is good too, and begging for captions!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Misc/Netanyahu_Victory_Obama_zpselj1wp7b.jpg)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 19, 2015, 07:08:17 AM
No surprise here...O'Buttface Reigme to go the UN route to force a Palestinian deal on Israel (http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/18/from-tel-aviv-to-turtle-bay-israel-palestinians-un-resolution/).

I keep saying it, and I know Bibi feels he has to knock down the markers along the way before getting there (but time only helps Israel's enemies!)...but as long as Prog's like Obama rule America, Israel can count on "ZERO" good will from us.  Bibi should state that the Obama Regime is hostile to Israel and her survival and go down the list of everything it has failed to do, announce it will do "whatever it takes" to keep its people safe, and declare America under Obama's leadership a hostile albeit at present a non-combatant foe and plan and act accordingly.

PS - Mark Levin is right, Obama is anti-Semitic...he loathes Jews, especially Israeli Jews...and really super-extra hates strong Israeli Jews like Bibi! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/mark-levin-anti-semitism-reeks-from-this-administration-the-president-is-anti-semitic-video/)

And good on these 150 US House members sending Bibi a congratulations letter...more than he can expect from any DemonRat! (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/us-house-congratulates-netanyahu-chides-obama/)



ETA - I can see Obama doing all manner of despicable acts against Israel (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/us-threatens-israel-makes-excuses-iran_891950.html), because he is lower than outhouse bacterial slime!!!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 25, 2015, 06:57:39 AM
Obamites say Israel spied on US-Iran talks (http://www.wsj.com/articles/israel-spied-on-iran-talks-1427164201) like it is a bad thing, I see this as a very good thing...when Obama seeks to pervert his authority and fvck you over, in my book it would be stupid and suicidal not to spy on those assholes!

And let us not buy the Obamite distraction over this spy flap to divert our eyes from their psychotic deal-with-Iran-at-any-cost rush to disaster...or let Obama and his evil minions throw the IAEA Chief's determination that Iran has done NOTHING to come clean on their nuclear program under the rug (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/un-nuclear-watchdog-iran-not-providing-needed-information-access/2015/03/24/6557b24a-d23d-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html)!

Expecting leadership of the kind American's are typically used to from a shatstick like Obama is a fools errand,...when he isn't actively trying to sabotage the electoral prospects of a strong Israeli leader...he is busy snubbing another traditional European ally (http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-24/obama-snubs-nato-chief-as-crisis-rages), because as we all know a deity like Duh Wun doesn't have to answer shat to nobody.

This nation is so effing screwed with this ass-tool in power!!!  Israel doesn't have to take it though, and under Bibi it looks like they aren't going to.  Good for them.  This nation keeps circling the drain, maybe I'll go there!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2015, 07:16:07 AM
If Israel didn't know for certain they were alone in the world, they and everybody knows it now since the Obama Regime just gave Iran the green light to do whatever the fvck it wants! (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12928.new#new)

Might as well go preemptive strike now...

It's that or wait to die...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Pandora on March 27, 2015, 07:20:03 AM
The Obongo regime also just made public, supposedly in response to a FOIA request, Israel's nuclear capabilities in a detailed document dating back to 1987 AND blacked out similar information about Italy and a couple of others.

This information has been kept on the QT through both Bush presidencies and Clinton's.  Until now.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2015, 07:28:36 AM
Yup.

The whaaa whaaa "if they have it why can't I?!" temper tantrum libiots enjoy is now going to be employed by every tin-pot dictatorship and moonbat outfit on the planet now, not just the bloody Shiites in Iran, all thanks to the treachery of B. Hussein Obama!

There will be blood...and lot's of it.  Not one iota of chance of it being avoided now, it is done.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on March 30, 2015, 07:47:12 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/world-power-foreign-ministers-press-iran-deal-021315746.html (http://news.yahoo.com/world-power-foreign-ministers-press-iran-deal-021315746.html)

All you can do is kill them before they kill you.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on April 03, 2015, 07:24:32 AM
If Obama surrender to Iran plan (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12928.new#new) remains in place...massive and horrific war is a certainty, all there is to argue over is when it will kick off...

Earth, soon to be a useless charred barren rock...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on June 03, 2015, 12:21:45 PM
Confirmed.  Israel is most definitely on her own...at least as long as a Prog is in the White House...

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12928.20 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12928.20)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on July 14, 2015, 11:56:03 AM
Israel is going to have to act, since Obama is hellbent on capitulation to Iran (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12928.0) Israel is going to have to do it all on its own once again.

Israeli leaders across the political spectrum condemned in stark apocalyptic language the Iranian nuclear pact announced by the United States and world powers Tuesday, calling it a historic mistake that frees Iran to sponsor global terror while assembling the information and materials to build a nuclear weapon.

“Iran is going to receive a sure path to nuclear weapons,” said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday. “Many of the restrictions that were supposed to prevent it from getting there will be lifted.”

With the lifting of economic sanctions, Netanyahu warned, “Iran will get a jackpot, a cash bonanza of hundreds of billions of dollars, which will enable it to continue to pursue its aggression and terror.”

Netanyahu’s hardline coalition partner, education minister Naftali Bennett said, “Today a terrorist nuclear superpower is born, and it will go down as one of the darkest days in world history.”

Netanyahu’s fellow Likud member, the Science Minister Danny Danon, said the Iran pact “is like providing a pyromaniac with matches.”

“It goes without saying that an agreement prevents Israel from thinking about a military option, unlike the options that might have existed five or ten ago,” said Uzi Rabi, director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African History at Tel Aviv University.

“The State of Israel will employ all diplomatic means to prevent confirmation of the agreement,” said Israel’s top foreign diplomat, Deputy ForeignMinister Tzipi Hotovely.

Speaking Tuesday morning on Israel Radio, Efraim Halevy, former head of the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, was critical of the way Israel’s prime minister fought the deal by directly confronting Obama.

Efraim said that perhaps it would have been better for Israel to apply pressure through more discreet channels and have more of a role in the deal eventually reached.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israel-blasts-iran-deal-as-dark-day-in-history/2015/07/14/feba23ae-0018-403f-82f3-3cd54e87a23b_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israel-blasts-iran-deal-as-dark-day-in-history/2015/07/14/feba23ae-0018-403f-82f3-3cd54e87a23b_story.html)

Uzi Rabi and Efraim Halevy are full of sh*t!

if Rabi thinks a military option is out of the question then he is saying he doesn't give a sh*t if Iran blasts Israel off the map...which they will once they have enough bombs to do the job and to keep idiots like Obama cowering in their holes.

And Halevy, who was critical of Netanyahu and thought he would get bounced in the recent election (another wrong call) thinks laying low and working quietly was going to impress Darth Obama then he is an even bigger fool than I know him to be!  Unless you have dirt on Obama, a quiet approach will only look like what it is - weak.

Bennett is right...this is one dark day...

 ::cussing::  Obama!  He is going to help kill millions...maybe billions! 

All bets are now off, Saudi's will go all-in for a bomb, Pak's won't give a FF about the West anymore and they and India are close to a full nuclear exchange anyway and this will not help, every tin pot two-bit punk on the planet is going to be sprinting for nukes.  The Devil is let loose and there will be Hell unleashed...these stupid f**kers just made that a certainty.

Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Predator Don on July 14, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
If I'm Israel....I'm taking care of the Iran issue before the ink dries.....
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on July 15, 2015, 06:56:48 AM
I have a feeling they are going to wait and see what our ankle-grabbing Pubbies in Congress do...but I believe I just answered that...

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/RINOs/Boo-Hoo-BOEHNER_zps2622eef9.jpg)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on July 15, 2015, 08:14:52 AM
Wow, here's a one-stop all ya need to know about this abomination...

Surrender Monkey Kerry says Netanyahu criticism of the Obama Nukes for Iran Deal are "way over the top" and all critics are "people who really don’t know the terms of the agreement" (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/14/kerry-netanyahu-way-over-the-top-iran-deal-critics-dont-really-know-the-terms/).

Is that the most pathetic use of typical progressive bullsh*t ever applied to an issue as serious as nuclear holocaust ever in the history of stupid sh*t ever said?

He did not provide any concrete evidence that the "critics" are wrong, as usual progressives dare their opponents to prove a negative.  Unfortunately in this case...proof will not arrive until mushroom clouds are seen over Israel...or the United States...or other Gulf neighbors.

And why do you think the mad Mullahs and Caliphs in Iran are celebrating, why their terrorist proxies like Hezbollah (http://www.weaselzippers.us/229083-hezbollah-cheers-nuke-deal-says-it-will-help-iran-fight-israel/) cheering this deal?  because it ENSURES Iran can develop a bomb!  In ENSURES Iran becomes the preeminent power in the Persian Gulf.

Oh, and it gets worse, much much worse!

The Obama Nukes for Iran Deal contains provisions that ObamAmerica and other dupes in Europe will help Iran PROTECT its nuclear sites! (http://freebeacon.com/national-security/u-s-will-teach-iran-to-thwart-nuke-threats/)  Obama has basically given Iran everything it could not obtain on its own...it would be better to do no deal and leave sanctions in place and bomb these sonsofbitches further back into the stone age than to agree to this demonic bargain!

Syria, always Iran's bitch...loves this deal too.  No doubt Assad sees this as saving his ass too, and possibly getting nukes of his own via his Master one day.

At least Netanyahu has a firm grasp of reality.

"Israel is not bound by this deal with Iran," he said in a televised address hours after the conclusion of the accord. "Iran continues to seek our destruction and we will defend ourselves."  "The bottom line of this very bad deal is exactly as Iran's President Rouhani said today - the international community is removing the sanctions and Iran is keeping its nuclear programme," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11739349/Israel-and-Saudi-Arabia-present-united-front-over-Iran-deal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11739349/Israel-and-Saudi-Arabia-present-united-front-over-Iran-deal.html)

And the utter insanity of the Obama Regime is on full display...from the same link -

Some Western supporters of the deal hope that having been brought “into the circle of nations” Iran will become what they call a “constructive player” in Middle East regional negotiations.
That means, in Syria’s case, agreeing to a deal whereby Mr Assad is forced out in favour of a transitional government representing all non-jihadist factions in the civil war.

What utter bullsh*t!  Did Neville Chamberlain's capitulation to Hitler in 1938 in Munich bring "Peace in our time"?  No, this appeasement combined with an emaciated military ensured war would come and come it did!  And the war Obama is helping to ensure is going to kill billions!  Iran isn't going to pressure Assad to do jack sh*t!  Iran wins, everybody else loses, that is ALL this insane deal does!!!

Israel better look elsewhere to find friends, and the Saudi's may appear an odd choice, but their shared distrust of Shia Iran could be beneficial, and there are likely a few other allies in the region that could help as well.  Better get on with it, the clock is really ticking faster now.

Somebody with good Photoshop skills needs to add a good word-burble to this brilliant pic I saw over at WeaselZippers...something like "Nuclear Annihilation in our time!" -

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/obamachamberlain2_zps9kqa9l8i.jpg)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Explosions/Explode-02-june.gif)

Got fallout shelter?
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on July 21, 2015, 07:55:56 AM
In the first public criticism of the P5+Iran deal by a member of the Saudi Arabian royal family, Prince Bandar bin Sultan told Lebanon’s Daily Star the deal would allow Iran to acquire a nuclear bomb and would “wreak havoc in the region." Covered in The Times of London, the prince also told Daily Star, "Saudi Arabia and the Gulf powers are prepared to take military action without American support after the Iran nuclear deal"

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/saudi-prince-even-after-deal-military-action-against-iran-still-table-or-without-us (http://www.mrctv.org/blog/saudi-prince-even-after-deal-military-action-against-iran-still-table-or-without-us)

Translation - "Israel, we give you the green light to transit Saudi air space to bomb the sh*t out of Iran, and we'll be sure to secure the agreement of Jordan and the other Gulf States for the same rights.  Happy hunting!"

It's the only card left to play.  Without radiating the entire region anyway...
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 02, 2015, 11:50:27 AM
OK, Game On!

With the Obama surrender of America to Iran (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12928.40) complete, thanks to the assistance of 34 more gutless than normal DemonProgs in the Senate (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12863.msg147693#msg147693), the capitulation to Iranian nuclear terror can now enter the final phase - an explosion of nuclear proliferation in the wider Middle East (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=13140.0) and the inescapable conclusion that if Israel is to survive it now must act before Iranian capability expands and before the rest of the regions players acquires their own stockpile of WMDs.

All bets are complete, all calls made...time to show your cards and declare a winner.

Otherwise everybody will be guaranteed to be a loser!!!
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Magnum on September 02, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
I have to be honest and come to grips that we have a leader occupying the white house that hates the Jews. Well I try to be as positive as I can but I cannot help but to believe at any moment Gods Judgement could soon be released on us. Because I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible, (even if Iran does get the bomb) Israel will never be destroyed or scattered again and Gods protection will be on them. Even when the rapture comes Gods hand and protection will always be on Israel. Therefore even though I  worry and pray for my Jewish brothers and sisters in Israel and that they may come to believe in Messiah I worry more about us in America and what God is going do to us unless we repent and quickly............


! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncNTKr_4J3c#)

Add to this Americas turning their back on Israel................

"I will bless those who bless you(Israel),
And I will curse him who curses you(Israel);
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.” Genesis 12:3
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2015, 06:52:19 AM
Indeed.

And while I see the odds of any sanity returning to latter-day American governance as highly doubtful in practical terms and more importantly in terms of time...I hold out the slim hope that primarily only the deserving will be singled out for His wrath...but if I have to be taken as well I only pray that a thousand of the treasonous evil filth go for every one us!  Amen!


And, if only to document the obvious...

A group of former top military officials and intelligence analysts released a new report Wednesday concluding that the nuclear deal with Iran will threaten American interests and increase the probability of military conflict in the Middle East.

In its report, the Iran Strategy Council wrote that the nuclear deal, called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), “will enable Iran to increase support for terrorist and insurgent proxies, aggravate sectarian conflict and trigger both nuclear and conventional proliferation cascades.” (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/2/nuclear-deal-will-make-war-with-iran-more-likely-f/)

Heavy emphasis on the latter.

Full report here - http://www.jinsa.org/files/StrategicConsequencesforU.S.NationalSecurity.pdf (http://www.jinsa.org/files/StrategicConsequencesforU.S.NationalSecurity.pdf)
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2015, 12:04:25 PM
Jew-haters cannot wait for Obama to spike the football, jump out early to show how effing nuts they are...

(http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/ifill-tweet-.jpg)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/pbs-ombudsman-calls-crank-gwen-ifills-twitter-outburst-self-inflicted-wound/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/pbs-ombudsman-calls-crank-gwen-ifills-twitter-outburst-self-inflicted-wound/)

What does PBS stand for?  Pure Bull Scat?  Pali Butt Smackers? 

BTW, you meant it, media-whore, only a complete moron buys your after-the-fact mea culpa!   ::mooning::

A senior commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) said Wednesday that Iran will continue boosting its military preparedness until it takes down Israel and sets Palestine free.

“…they (the US and the Zionists) should know that the Islamic Revolution will continue enhancing its preparedness until it overthrows Israel and liberates Palestine,” IRGC’s top commander in Tehran province, Brigadier General Mohsen Kazzemeini (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/top-iranian-general-promises-annihilation-of-israel-after-democrats-pledge-to-support-nuke-deal/)

No problem, asshole...the Obama Regime and the vast majority of DemonRats have the same aim.

Better not hold back...you both have only one shot.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2015, 11:28:15 AM
Islaminal Cult Leader throws out the "Try and stop us!" challenge to Israel again. (http://www.weaselzippers.us/234352-top-lebanese-islamic-scholar-genocide-of-jews-in-israel-revealed-in-the-koran/)

Yup, dare the Lion to attack, smart.

Methinks Hell is about to experience a mass influx of new cultists.
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: John Florida on September 16, 2015, 03:11:44 PM
Islaminal Cult Leader throws out the "Try and stop us!" challenge to Israel again. (http://www.weaselzippers.us/234352-top-lebanese-islamic-scholar-genocide-of-jews-in-israel-revealed-in-the-koran/)

Yup, dare the Lion to attack, smart.

Methinks Hell is about to experience a mass influx of new cultists.

   Is that where the virgins are??
Title: Re: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?
Post by: Libertas on September 17, 2015, 07:52:39 AM
Islaminal Cult Leader throws out the "Try and stop us!" challenge to Israel again. (http://www.weaselzippers.us/234352-top-lebanese-islamic-scholar-genocide-of-jews-in-israel-revealed-in-the-koran/)

Yup, dare the Lion to attack, smart.

Methinks Hell is about to experience a mass influx of new cultists.

   Is that where the virgins are??

So the new guests think...upon arrival they learn they are the virgins and the main course.

 ::smallestviolin::