It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: BigAlSouth on November 07, 2012, 04:59:20 AM
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The majority of Americans, just over 50 percent, have decided that they would be more comfortable with four more years of Barack Obama's on-the-job training. So what should the remainder of the country do?
TOP TEN THINGS TO CONSIDER THE DAY AFTER
1. If you have young children, hug them and tell them that they are the most important parts of your life.
2. If you have adult children, call them and tell them that you are proud of them and they are the most important parts of your life.
3. If you believe in God, go to a quiet place and have a conversation with Him. He listens. Really.
4. If you are spiritually ambivalent, seek out a church and surround yourself with like minded, though imperfect human beings, who find comfort and inspiration through the Gospel according to Jesus Christ.
5. If you have a job, dedicate yourself to being the best employee or employer you can be. Remember: Work is man's salvation. Scores of people depend on your best efforts, regardless of what you do for a living.
6. Look around the world. Americans still live in the greatest country in the history of the world. Would you rather move and disrupt your life or take action here to make your community better.
7. Hate and bitterness destroy one's own soul and do nothing to the object of your hate.
8. I think we all know that the Republican House (except for the Tea Party members) is not going to implement the real steps necessary to address the collapse of the U.S. financial system. Do we really want a Republican President at the helm when the collapse comes in the next four years?
9. Prepare for the worst, but do not let fear consume you.
10. Love thy neighbor as thyself. I know it is hard at times. It may not have an effect on your neighbor, but it makes you a better person.
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11. If you can get away with it , take a baseball bat to every liberal scumbag of voting age .
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6. Look around the world. Americans still live in the greatest country in the history of the world.
A country is only the sum of it's people. Americans are no longer exceptional. I was born into the greatest country into the history of the world. This is no longer that country.
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7. Hate and bitterness destroy one's own soul and do nothing to the object of your hate.
I know this in my mind. But my heart won't listen these days. I'm tired of hating the Left. Really, really tired. But I can't not. Leftists are a most loathsome lifeform to me, second only to Muslims. People that have a liberal "look" cause a visceral reaction in me. When I see or hear a liberal, I feel violence well up in me.
The Left is destroying everything I hold dear. I want them to pay.
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11. If you can get away with it , take a baseball bat to every liberal scumbag of voting age .
Do I even care if I get caught? What's the worst that could happen? Prison? 3 squares a day, free medical...
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fiscal conservatism is a losing message
new message:
everyone for themselves
I think for conservatives they'll be more successful because they will provide for themselves. The others will wait for someone to get it for them.
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His first order of business is going to be making new citizens out of all the illegals, and opening the door even wider for more. If the 2012 election was against us, just wait until he rams through amnesty.
My concern is to try and salvage what remains of Western Civilization. Obviously the economic argument has been lost. Socialism will now forever be the state of the American economy. We will quickly resemble other countries, where the government health service is far and away the largest employer. I'm thinking at this point the only avenue to secure the remnant of Western Civilization is through ethnic and nationalistic appeals, accepting as foregone conclusion that all such approaches will be paired with socialism. Hmm, nationalism and socialism. Not an auspicious history to that one.
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11. If you can get away with it , take a baseball bat to every liberal scumbag of voting age .
Do I even care if I get caught? What's the worst that could happen? Prison? 3 squares a day, free medical...
If I didn't have a family to think about, there would be nothing stopping me.
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6. Look around the world. Americans still live in the greatest country in the history of the world.
A country is only the sum of it's people. Americans are no longer exceptional. I was born into the greatest country into the history of the world. This is no longer that country.
Welcome to the end of Rome went the same way,from the inside.
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You know how Rush is always saying "I will tell you when it is time to panic." Well, if that's not the lead-off on his show today, then he no longer has any credibility.
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6. Look around the world. Americans still live in the greatest country in the history of the world.
A country is only the sum of it's people. Americans are no longer exceptional. I was born into the greatest country into the history of the world. This is no longer that country.
Welcome to the end of Rome went the same way,from the inside.
Except there are no Barbarians to defect to and help pillage the bastards perpetrating this.
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You know how Rush is always saying "I will tell you when it is time to panic." Well, if that's not the lead-off on his show today, then he no longer has any credibility.
Yeah. He's terminally optimistic though, I don't think he'll hit the panic button.
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You know how Rush is always saying "I will tell you when it is time to panic." Well, if that's not the lead-off on his show today, then he no longer has any credibility.
Yeah. He's terminally optimistic though, I don't think he'll hit the panic button.
I'd be shocked if he did.
But I heard enough from conservative pundits last night saying we live for another day, that's what elections are for , how to fix this, etc NOne of them have a clue.
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11. If you can get away with it , take a baseball bat to every liberal scumbag of voting age .
::thumbsup::
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Ann Barnhardt knew all along....
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Our family won't be dropping out any time soon. My husband needs clear signs and he got it last night. I couldn't talk to him before now about what we will need to do. I've been doing things on my own but some things I needed his support. He has a great job and he will get a raise this coming year. So at this point I want him there for as long as it lasts. But I think he knows now that there's no pretending it's all ok.
I'm still sad. I mean I knew there were a lot of takers but it still hurts to get hit in the face with it. I knew my dad was dying and it still hurt when he did. This is like that for me.
I know that within the next few days I will be back on track. I've always done well when faced with adversity. It just sucks sometimes.
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Ann Barnhardt knew all along....
Yup
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After some consideration, I've decided to just wait out the fall of the nation and prepare to rebuild the lives of my family. My problem lies in deciding just how low the country will sink before we can rebuild.
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How soon before they start completely destroying the Constitution? They will out law free speech so no one can say anything bad about the muslimes, then they will outlaw guns and come to take them away. I am sooo disturbed by what happened yesterday.
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How soon before they start completely destroying the Constitution? They will out law free speech so no one can say anything bad about the muslimes, then they will outlaw guns and come to take them away. I am sooo disturbed by what happened yesterday.
yep. why wouldn't they?
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And Mia Love loses in UT.
Along with the loss of Allen West, the GOP is now more White, thanks to the Leftist race-regime.
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/11/07/jim-matheson-just-barely-defeats-mia-love-in-utah/ (http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/11/07/jim-matheson-just-barely-defeats-mia-love-in-utah/)
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And Mia Love loses in UT.
Along with the loss of Allen West, the GOP is now more White, thanks to the Leftist race-regime.
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/11/07/jim-matheson-just-barely-defeats-mia-love-in-utah/ (http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/11/07/jim-matheson-just-barely-defeats-mia-love-in-utah/)
Yep, the west and love losses stung.
I coming to the conclusion there are people who don't pay attention until the last month. They are then inundated with attack ads and a complicit media. We need more than Fox News and a few talk show hosts. Time we began to take over liberal media outlets. We are being overwhelmed, media wise.
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I am speaking with a heavy heart because I love this country very much. But also I have a peace and calm that I only can explain coming from the Lord. I know some may not like to hear this and many do not believe this and I understand, however:
Last night confirmed to me in that God may have lifted His blessing on us…. and leaving us to our own vices and has leveled judgement on us.
As Pastor John MacArthur says:
"The democrats as represented by obama have adopted the sins of Romans 1 as their party platform specifically advocating same sex marriage which is a gross violation of the law of God. Furthermore they seem passionate of the right for a woman to kill her baby even during the 9th month. Romans 1 says that God will judge those (nations) that advocate homosexual behavior, men with men, women with women, doing what is unnatural."
The democrats are literally creating a platform out of what God hates. They took God out of their platform and they should have left Him out. Putting God back in to their platform is utter blasphemy. BTW this is what it really means to take Gods name in vein to do something in the name of God which God detests. "To connect God with that agenda is an abomination and I believe puts a nation at risk for divine judgment. And we maybe there.
I am also pained by the fact that, for the first time, Americans voted to redefine marriage and make it genderless (and we did in all four states where this was on the ballot).
As my mentor Dr. Michael Brown says:
"Now, with the most radical pro-abortion, pro-gay-activist president in our history elected to a second term, we will not deceive ourselves into looking to the White House for help (although we should pray fervently for God to get hold of him and turn his heart).
Instead, we must give ourselves to personal and corporate repentance, to faith-filled, persistent prayer for revival and awakening, to a renewed commitment to preach the gospel without shame and compromise, and to an unshakable resolve to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world."
I am at peace because God is still in control as Daniel 2:21 states:
God controls the course of world events;
He removes kings and sets up other kings.
But from personal experience having been disciplined by God for my past protocol living is not a good place to be. And all my hope rests with the true and only Messiah the Lord Jesus Christ..................
May God Bless You All........My God Bless and Heal America. And May our Lord Forgive us and have Mercy on us.................
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West and Love are too good for the American people of 2012, who are better served by Greyson and Fauxcohantas.
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As someone who poo poos anyone who pretends to know when the end times are coming, and being reminded of it by Magnum's post and others...
Anyone notice Israel is now alone in the world?
Just sayin' ::foilhathelicopter::
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As someone who poo poos anyone who pretends to know when the end times are coming, and being reminded of it by Magnum's post and others...
Anyone notice Israel is now alone in the world?
Just sayin' ::foilhathelicopter::
About 5,999,999 living there are keenly aware of it.
Edit: add link: http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/11/06/report-israels-jewish-population-to-hit-symbolic-6-million-by-end-of-month/ (http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/11/06/report-israels-jewish-population-to-hit-symbolic-6-million-by-end-of-month/)
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As someone who poo poos anyone who pretends to know when the end times are coming, and being reminded of it by Magnum's post and others...
Anyone notice Israel is now alone in the world?
Just sayin' ::foilhathelicopter::
Oh MNHawk please don't confuse me with someone who knows the day or hour of the Lords coming. I am simply saying that God maybe judging us for our disobedience. All one has to do is read the Old Testament which is partly the story of Gods relationship with Israel. When Israel followed the Lord they lived in peace and prosperity, when they disobeyed God they were judged. He was extremely patient with them but in time he had enough. 4,000+/- years they are still a nation but they have lived through many judgements.
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As someone who poo poos anyone who pretends to know when the end times are coming, and being reminded of it by Magnum's post and others...
Anyone notice Israel is now alone in the world?
Just sayin' ::foilhathelicopter::
Oh MNHawk please don't confuse me with someone who knows the day or hour of the Lords coming. I am simply saying that God maybe judging us for our disobedience. All one has to do is read the Old Testament which is partly the story of Gods relationship with Israel. When Israel followed the Lord they lived in peace and prosperity, when they disobeyed God they were judged. He was extremely patient with them but in time he had enough. 4,000+/- years they are still a nation but they have lived through many judgements.
Obama was right when he said that we are not a Christian nation anymore. I believe that you hit the nail on the head. +1
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I am speaking with a heavy heart because I love this country very much. But also I have a peace and calm that I only can explain coming from the Lord. I know some may not like to hear this and many do not believe this and I understand, however:
Last night confirmed to me in that God may have lifted His blessing on us…. and leaving us to our own vices and has leveled judgement on us.
As Pastor John MacArthur says:
"The democrats as represented by obama have adopted the sins of Romans 1 as their party platform specifically advocating same sex marriage which is a gross violation of the law of God. Furthermore they seem passionate of the right for a woman to kill her baby even during the 9th month. Romans 1 says that God will judge those (nations) that advocate homosexual behavior, men with men, women with women, doing what is unnatural."
The democrats are literally creating a platform out of what God hates. They took God out of their platform and they should have left Him out. Putting God back in to their platform is utter blasphemy. BTW this is what it really means to take Gods name in vein to do something in the name of God which God detests. "To connect God with that agenda is an abomination and I believe puts a nation at risk for divine judgment. And we maybe there.
I am also pained by the fact that, for the first time, Americans voted to redefine marriage and make it genderless (and we did in all four states where this was on the ballot).
As my mentor Dr. Michael Brown says:
"Now, with the most radical pro-abortion, pro-gay-activist president in our history elected to a second term, we will not deceive ourselves into looking to the White House for help (although we should pray fervently for God to get hold of him and turn his heart).
Instead, we must give ourselves to personal and corporate repentance, to faith-filled, persistent prayer for revival and awakening, to a renewed commitment to preach the gospel without shame and compromise, and to an unshakable resolve to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world."
I am at peace because God is still in control as Daniel 2:21 states:
God controls the course of world events;
He removes kings and sets up other kings.
But from personal experience having been disciplined by God for my past protocol living is not a good place to be. And all my hope rests with the true and only Messiah the Lord Jesus Christ..................
May God Bless You All........My God Bless and Heal America. And May our Lord Forgive us and have Mercy on us.................
Magnum, I had not read your reference to Romans 1 before I responded to you in another thread. But I believe this with all my heart. I believe they have fallen and Romans 1 is the only explanation. I won't repost what I posted on the other thread.
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Please read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
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As someone who poo poos anyone who pretends to know when the end times are coming, and being reminded of it by Magnum's post and others...
Anyone notice Israel is now alone in the world?
Just sayin' ::foilhathelicopter::
Oh MNHawk please don't confuse me with someone who knows the day or hour of the Lords coming. I am simply saying that God maybe judging us for our disobedience. All one has to do is read the Old Testament which is partly the story of Gods relationship with Israel. When Israel followed the Lord they lived in peace and prosperity, when they disobeyed God they were judged. He was extremely patient with them but in time he had enough. 4,000+/- years they are still a nation but they have lived through many judgements.
No no, it's just that you reminded me of that. Isn't that kind of the first sign, Israel being alone in the world?
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Please read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
Thank you American Patriot!
I have and I am a supporter of Messianic Rabbi Cahn he makes a compelling case for Gods future Judgements on America.
The Harbinger - Rabbi Cahn, Full Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXei0Zb3dxM#)
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I think God is out to show us what happens when we stray too far. The Godless for being therre and the rest for allowing it or at least not being able to do something about it. This is where free will hits the fan.
This hasn't changed my mind on how I live my life but I will be even less forgiving to those that I don't approve of.
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I think God is out to show us what happens when we stray too far. The Godless for being therre and the rest for allowing it or at least not being able to do something about it. This is where free will hits the fan.
Every election since Clinton, a lot of us have been trying "to do something about it", and the enemy and their free will have defeated us at every turn, one way or the other.
This hasn't changed my mind on how I live my life but I will be even less forgiving to those that I don't approve of.
It would change my life if I knew what else to do; I already have zero approval for "them" regardless that I pray for the sinner.
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I think God is out to show us what happens when we stray too far. The Godless for being therre and the rest for allowing it or at least not being able to do something about it. This is where free will hits the fan.
Every election since Clinton, a lot of us have been trying "to do something about it", and the enemy and their free will have defeated us at every turn, one way or the other.
This hasn't changed my mind on how I live my life but I will be even less forgiving to those that I don't approve of.
It would change my life if I knew what else to do; I already have zero approval for "them" regardless that I pray for the sinner.
I won't pray for them ever. I don't care enough to GAS.
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We are all like Israel, we are all on our own, we only need to look after our own, and let God take care of everything else, people made their choices and if they are on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of God, well, so be it, we just have to stay out of the crossfire as best we can.
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I told my kids tonight we HAVE to put our family first. We have to marshall our resources.
My youngest cried again. I decided that she needs to hear our conversations. Of course, I hugged her. But I want her to see how we handle adversity and not to be afraid.
I think she's ok now. As I am. I grieved. I'm more resolute now in what I need to do.
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I told my kids tonight we HAVE to put our family first. We have to marshall our resources.
My youngest cried again. I decided that she needs to hear our conversations. Of course, I hugged her. But I want her to see how we handle adversity and not to be afraid.
I think she's ok now. As I am. I grieved. I'm more resolute now in what I need to do.
Clarity of purpose! ::thumbsup:: ::grouphug::
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I told my kids tonight we HAVE to put our family first. We have to marshall our resources.
My youngest cried again. I decided that she needs to hear our conversations. Of course, I hugged her. But I want her to see how we handle adversity and not to be afraid.
I think she's ok now. As I am. I grieved. I'm more resolute now in what I need to do.
Clarity of purpose! ::thumbsup:: ::grouphug::
I needed to find my way back to that. Just took me 24 hours and more prayer and a bottle of wine. ;D
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I told my kids tonight we HAVE to put our family first. We have to marshall our resources.
My youngest cried again. I decided that she needs to hear our conversations. Of course, I hugged her. But I want her to see how we handle adversity and not to be afraid.
I think she's ok now. As I am. I grieved. I'm more resolute now in what I need to do.
Clarity of purpose! ::thumbsup:: ::grouphug::
I needed to find my way back to that. Just took me 24 hours and more prayer and a bottle of wine. ;D
Wine has a way of clearing ones head.
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What I'm doing next.
Buying even less.
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I wonder how all those ObamaVoters are going to feel when their employers cut their hours to avoid having to pay for healthcare?
My understanding is that 30+ hours is "full time" employed under the new rules. What will employers do? Hmm...
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I wonder how all those ObamaVoters are going to feel when their employers cut their hours to avoid having to pay for healthcare?
My understanding is that 30+ hours is "full time" employed under the new rules. What will employers do? Hmm...
Goo around that. Hire more with fewer hourly totals. Spread that wealth around. Soon we look like France.
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(Originally made a separate thread as I hadn't seen this one. Sorry.)
I've not posted here much so take this for what it's worth.
I am devastated by the election. I mean devastated. I've nothing more that I can say except to wish you well with our new communist overlords.
To know that so many of my fellow citizens in this country, dead, illegal or otherwise, in voting for The New Face Of Tyranny voted for OwebamCare. They voted to kill me as I would not survive any medical panel valuing life as the banal bureaucrat sees fit.
I'm done with politics for a while, maybe a long while, I really don't know. I just know that I've got some serious evaluating of my life to do.
As I've said before, I really have lowered my internet postings here and elsewhere a lot of late, but now it's just not worth it. It's just words. I will not submit to communists -- ever. Period.
Thanks for letting me (infrequently) post, but I have kept up with the posted thread updates and some others. I've simply quit reading as much as I used to, and for a variety of reasons. But for now I want nothing to do with politics on the internet, I do not want to follow the latest deadly political scandal because who in this country actually gives a sh*t? The ones who voted for the Jug Eared F*ck? (There are times I seriously damn word nannies.) I've seen my nation come to the point where a racist lying communist f*cktard is reelected to the highest office in the land while in our national deliberative body, the Senate, we have a clown and a fake indian. We have also, with this reelection, shifted longstanding national policy as we are now fully embracing and assisting the islamic jihad, so that pleasure will also be coming to everyone's block. This is not my country anymore. I'm not very mobile (as I said health issues) but . . . I just don't know right now hence the need to evaluate. Everything.
Thanks again and to those with children (I do not), and I mean this as sincerely as I can type it, good luck with them. They are now going to face a barrage of Cult of Personality with regard to King Putt like nothing we've ever seen before in this country. Already we see the school murals all over the place. (Rhetorical question: How many Bush murals in those same schools were there?) We've seen the communist/fascist style motivational artwork/propaganda. We see our Fourth Estate become worse than Fifth Columnists. We see the takers voting themselves your legally confiscated largess, and that will never change now. We have also seen the last of any semblance of fair elections (card check's nothing). With this election, there will be no Justice Department investigation into vote fraud, and voter ID laws will die on the vine. Not to put too fine a pessimistic point to it, but we're f**ked. This is no longer my country and I've to think about what to do.
Rick.
(I'll leave the light on for the rest of the day so . . .)
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(Originally made a separate thread as I hadn't seen this one. Sorry.)
I've not posted here much so take this for what it's worth.
I am devastated by the election. I mean devastated. I've nothing more that I can say except to wish you well with our new communist overlords.
To know that so many of my fellow citizens in this country, dead, illegal or otherwise, in voting for The New Face Of Tyranny voted for OwebamCare. They voted to kill me as I would not survive any medical panel valuing life as the banal bureaucrat sees fit.
I'm done with politics for a while, maybe a long while, I really don't know. I just know that I've got some serious evaluating of my life to do.
As I've said before, I really have lowered my internet postings here and elsewhere a lot of late, but now it's just not worth it. It's just words. I will not submit to communists -- ever. Period.
Thanks for letting me (infrequently) post, but I have kept up with the posted thread updates and some others. I've simply quit reading as much as I used to, and for a variety of reasons. But for now I want nothing to do with politics on the internet, I do not want to follow the latest deadly political scandal because who in this country actually gives a sh*t? The ones who voted for the Jug Eared F*ck? (There are times I seriously damn word nannies.) I've seen my nation come to the point where a racist lying communist f*cktard is reelected to the highest office in the land while in our national deliberative body, the Senate, we have a clown and a fake indian. We have also, with this reelection, shifted longstanding national policy as we are now fully embracing and assisting the islamic jihad, so that pleasure will also be coming to everyone's block. This is not my country anymore. I'm not very mobile (as I said health issues) but . . . I just don't know right now hence the need to evaluate. Everything.
Thanks again and to those with children (I do not), and I mean this as sincerely as I can type it, good luck with them. They are now going to face a barrage of Cult of Personality with regard to King Putt like nothing we've ever seen before in this country. Already we see the school murals all over the place. (Rhetorical question: How many Bush murals in those same schools were there?) We've seen the communist/fascist style motivational artwork/propaganda. We see our Fourth Estate become worse than Fifth Columnists. We see the takers voting themselves your legally confiscated largess, and that will never change now. We have also seen the last of any semblance of fair elections (card check's nothing). With this election, there will be no Justice Department investigation into vote fraud, and voter ID laws will die on the vine. Not to put too fine a pessimistic point to it, but we're f**ked. This is no longer my country and I've to think about what to do.
Rick.
(I'll leave the light on for the rest of the day so . . .)
You are not the only one reevaluating everything Rick, do what you need to do to keep your sanity and drop in whenever you feel like, you are always welcome here!
God Bless!
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Rick just don't let this be a reason to lose contact with your friends. I understand what you're saying and am not far behind you.I will probably lighten up on the talking heads for a while.
I just don't want to hear it.Stay well.
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I just don't know right now hence the need to evaluate. Everything.
As Pan said, we all are. The talking heads, quite frankly, a pissing me off. Instapundit was quoting some Canadian that said that theuy lived under this sort of tyranny for 20 years. Of course you did, because Canadians are too stupid to fight. Its a Common Sense moment folks. The liberals wish to deny us our basic, inalienable, rights. The government has made it clear that not only will it not stop them, it will help them, with Robert's decision to violate the separation of powers and deny the Court's role in "protecting us from ourselves" via legislative overreach. The Government is now 100% illegitimate. It does not govern by the consent of the governed. There is no peaceful demonstration or civil disobedience solution to the problem, because the liberals have regard for us, our feelings, or our rights. As C.S. Lewis put it
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
The government will not protect us. There are no avenues to correcting that left. They have left us NO OTHER OPTION but to defend our rights by force. If that means its just me in my driveway, then so be it. But WAR is the only option they have left us. The talking heads are still talking about enduring under this, hoping for some future peaceful fix. So did the slaves in the South and their supporters in the North- for Hundreds of years. It never came, till a war did. Sometimes, war IS the only answer. There HAVE TO BE FIREWORKS if you want a solution.
Schoolhouse Rock Fireworks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTY0V8GaeFI#)
"Its only common sense. If a government won't give you your basic rights, you better get another government"
You now have two options. Fight or Run. Going Galt is middle ground between the two- but eventually they will come for you. For your guns. For your right to own animals. For your right to grow food. For your right to use water. You will either capitulate or end up dead in your driveway, hopefully with a thug or two laying there beside you.
Emigration is running, and while you might find a place that grants you more liberty, you will sacrifice modern living, family, friends, and culture - and ultimately still never be accepted in your new locale as the United States continues down its path to crashing the world economy. You will still not be free in the sense that we have understood it - the rest of the world is based on racism, class, and the law of the Jungle. If you are allowed to do as you please it will only be because no one else cares about the backwater you moved to.
If a State leaves the Union, I am sure we will all flock to it to fight and defend its right to do so, but until one does, there is no place to go. They have left us no ground to run to. The only logical course is to fight. And if you are still having a hard time identifying a target, it IS your govt and any individual who supports it. Tories were all enemies of the people during the First Revolution.
We don't strike first. They will do it, just as King George did. Obama and his handlers will ratify the UN treaty and come for the Guns, or they will deprive us of the right to own land or produce food. They will deprive us of the right to buy stuff without a valid RFID chip. They will do something that most will not abide ( and no Obamacare is not that issue, though it SHOULD be) - there will be a protest. A refusal. A demand of "Make Me." - The only question is if that demand is made by individuals in their driveways, or made by a town, a county, or a State. If the former, go to your rest and may God punish those that force you there. If the Latter, may God lead us to victory over the tyrants, who deserve no mercy. They know what they do, They choose to do it because they think they are strong, because they think it proves they are good people, and they do not deserve a shred of mercy. Those who deny others their rights, have no cause to claim theirs are protected. Those who break our laws and use them as weapons against us, have no legitimate claim to be tried under them. They deserve no trial. They deserve no Court. they deserve nothing but than to be treated like the intolerant, ignorant, self-righteous grade-school bullies they are, and the only thing such people understand is force.
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Weisshaupt, I think you're on to something
Personally, I think they've been itching for a fight to use as an excuse to bring the full weight of the totalitarian state down on us and finish the job
We are unorganized and weak and that's why they want it.
In order to not make seditious statements but merely as a theoretical exercise, how would one begin to overthrow the yoke of tyranny?
I'm thinking that we need to build organizations.
Look for a peaceful solution but prepare for an other.
Maybe like Sinn Fein and the IRA in Northern Ireland
I don't remember the story exactly, so I'll paraphrase about breaking the window
A law abiding citizen was walking home from work one night, frustrated about the way things were going.
He saw a large window of a government office and several bricks
He had never done this before but he picked up a brick and threw it
Eventually, windows were broken across the country
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"Tired. That is my overriding sensation as I write this. How to bang one's first impressions of hell out on a keyboard? Let us begin a new day, in a new world, with a first principle of sorts -- in this case, a negative principle. Here is a short list of words or turns of phrase that I never want to hear again.
(1) "America is a center-right country." Center and right are entirely relative terms. The "center" between Lenin and FDR, for example, is very far to the "left" of George Washington. And political self-identification is a meaningless standard of judgment, even by meaningless current standards.
Many on the "right" are fond of reminding us that only twenty percent of Americans self-identify as "liberals." I actually heard Brit Hume trying to squeeze this bromide out during the Obama victory post-mortem. But in a nation that embraced a vast social welfare system eighty years ago, and has expanded it continually ever since; a nation that for the past fifty years has moved inexorably towards the locus classicus of socialist egalitarianism, government-controlled health care; a nation that elected and re-elected a man who has openly self-identified as a progressive and advocated wealth-redistribution; and a nation in which the popular culture is dominated by artless harlots, pimps, and gangsters, a "centrist" is a person who embraces social disintegration and authoritarianism. To be "moderately conservative" in such a milieu simply means that one finds the latest music video about teenage lesbian orgies just a little over the top.
America is not a center-right country, whatever that means. It is -- notwithstanding its still-sane minority (which includes almost everyone reading this) -- a socialist-leaning nation that lags behind the rest of the progressive world only due to a slight residual guilt complex regarding all that old Constitution stuff. The events of the past couple of days suggest that even that little bugaboo has now been largely overcome by the majority, for whom most inhibitions about accepting their chains -- and chaining their neighbors -- are now gone.
(2) "Mitt Romney was only the nominee because of a thin primary field." Phooey. He was the nominee because the entire GOP establishment threw everything it had at all the other candidates, in order to guarantee that it would get the candidate most likely to succumb to their advice and direction. As of September 2012, Romney was the only candidate left in the primary field whom no one had ever described as a conservative, let alone a constitutionalist. That, in short, is why he was the nominee.
(3) "Republicans need a candidate who can appeal to moderates." See point 1 above. Appealing to moderates means apologizing to voters for not being quite as forward-looking as Barack Obama. It is to set oneself up as the inferior choice. It is to presume that the moderates are with the Democrat candidate by default, and must be peeled off by stealth.
This election was the last chance to spare America the final degradation of ceasing to be a constitutional republic altogether. That battle has now been lost. The things most needed now are clarity and forthrightness. The danger most imminent now is that, having forsaken the principles of liberty, the nation will simply forget that those principles ever existed. Therefore, from now on, to whatever extent possible, every candidate running against the Democrats in any election must be the most unapologetic, relentless constitutional conservative available. He or she must call out the Democrat as a leftist, a socialist, an authoritarian, and every other simply accurate designation appropriate to the situation. And he or she must be intellectually prepared to prove that case against the Democrat, and to make the moral, constitutional case for individual freedom.
Will this kind of blunt, hard truth lead to victory? Not likely, or not in the short run. The danger, however, is that if the true identity of modern American leftism is swept under the rug in the name of the big lie of "electability" (another word I hope I never hear again), the popular optics will forever belong to the Democrats, who, after all, have actively created a society in their own image and will therefore always appear as the most natural position to their monstrous offspring.
The name of conservatism, and more importantly its proud truths, must never be allowed to slip from the public consciousness. They will do exactly that if the non-Democrat in future campaigns hides from this name and from these truths. Eventually, it will be impossible -- realistically, if not legally -- to run as a genuine conservative. (I do not use the word "legally" facetiously; the more entrenched authoritarian socialism becomes, the more an advocate of liberty becomes a perceived threat to the nation's basic principles.)
The real alternative to leftist authoritarianism (to be labeled as such at every opportunity) must be presented often and with vigor. Politely asking to be forgiven for not being as exciting as one's leftist opponent is the surest path to permanent serfdom. The only way out of this morass is to stand firm on principle and speak proudly of the superiority of one's position. Over time, a new generation may rise up that will find this clear light more appealing than the dull gray of socialism.
Yes, it may take a generation, or more. But it is the only way to victory -- not merely electoral victory, which is meaningless without defining principles according to which one can govern, but victory in the name of liberty, of the American Founders, and of civilization.
(4) "I know he's a good man, and wants what's best for America." I hope this is the last presidential election in which conservatives will have to hear this validate-your-opponent claptrap from their standard-bearer. Barack Obama is neither a good man nor one who wants what is best for America. He is a bad, conscienceless man, who wants to undo America in the name of a very foreign model of social organization. When we say this among ourselves, the mainstream media's dupes do not hear us. A conservative presidential candidate, on the other hand, is the one man who has the national microphones of the mainstream media at his disposal -- the one man, in other words, who has the ear of those dupes. To fail to speak truth to illegitimate power at that moment, and into that microphone, is nothing less than an act of cowardice.
Allen West, who is not a coward, may just have lost his congressional seat. He is losing it in part because he had the courage to say what we all know -- that there are communists in the United States Congress -- and his supposed compatriots in the GOP abandoned him as a crank.
Michele Bachmann -- whom I strongly supported in the primaries -- came within an inch of losing her congressional seat. She almost lost in part because she has had the courage to speak out about a host of constitutional issues, from the debt to the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of the government, and her supposed compatriots in the GOP quietly refused to support her campaign in the hope that she would disappear, and take her embarrassing hard truths with her.
No more apologies. No more embarrassment. No more veiled language when on the big stage. The left won the day by making the most radical, anti-human irrationalism of this epoch seem safe and normal, while portraying freedom and individualism as the dangerous, radical path.
The electoral battle between leftism and liberty is lost, and perhaps will now remain so for a good long time, regardless of the name of the winning party in any given election.
The moral war, however, is still in its early stages. It is an educational war, which means a war of ideas, which means a civilizational war. It is going to get ugly, and we are going to lose more battles than we win. As you know, however, the ultimate victor is the side that wins the last battle.
"Forward"? Bring it on."
A Few Things I Never Want to Hear Again (http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/a_few_things_i_never_want_to_hear_again.html#ixzz2Be1FqTYr)
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The moral war, however, is still in its early stages. It is an educational war, which means a war of ideas, which means a civilizational war. It is going to get ugly, and we are going to lose more battles than we win. As you know, however, the ultimate victor is the side that wins the last battle.
You cannot have a moral war against people with no morals. These people believe anything they do is right because they are such "good" people. They have no principles other than their own dominance over others - by right of their superiority and super-narcissism.They are the aristocrats of old, and dumb enough to think the aristocratic class can be a majority in a world of ever decreasing production. . The only way you "educate" these people is by killing them, and its better than they deserve. I personally would like to see them stave to death and be tortured while they do it.
They have already sown the seeds of their own destruction. The Fed will become irrelevant as the dollar becomes irrelevant if they don't move to more totalitarian methods. They WILL BE FORCED into open displays of their Tyranny, as the money they control us with now becomes worthless. The EBTs will eventually buy nothing, unless guns and soldiers enforce the transactions. At some point, the 2nd Amendment works as intended or it does not. They will, of course, get us into a World War, to justify these actions at home. Don't you want to support the war effort? (If I had a country I thought worth defending, maybe. My Country however is gone. Murdered. By the same people who will now start this war)
If we don't have a rebellion the "Last Battle" will be against lawlessness and starvation. They cannot support what they have. They cannot fulfill the promises they have made. Their "optics" inevitably become those of Eastern Europe under the Soviets. You get environmental devastation, F'd up production and propaganda that no citizen believes - and that culture is not sustainable either. Even without Reagan the Soviets would have eventually fallen to money printing, inflation and war.
We know what is coming. We know we are strapped in for the ride. Our only chance is to refuse them and their control. Collectively or Individually. I have accepted the formulation of "Liberty or Death" and accept what obeying that principle will ultimately apply. Liberals will be happy to deal out death - it was people like them who ran the concentration camps in Germany. They enjoy power over others. They Enjoy feeling superior. Give them an excuse to feel those things and they will commit any atrocity asked of them.
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But for now I want nothing to do with politics on the internet
I could never quit the internet but I no longer have any interest in listening or watching this crap. I emailed the sibling to pass on getting me Rush or Beck on line, anymore. I just don't care to devote 3 hours of my day to it. I imagine I won't want to read all that much about it either.
Pop culture? I'm already pretty disconnected. I imagine I won't be getting back to connecting with this rotten culture. I've always imagined I'd start looking for a place in a cheaper, more tropical part of the world for that "winter home." I couldn't imagine ever doing it full time. Now I wonder why I would want to still anchor myself in a country that is no longer exceptional.
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I got kin there. It's a possibility. Although Austin and Houston are human zoos, and even parts in the DFW metroplex has its fair share of feral trash. ::)
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We didn't vote for revenge, but we can exact it on those who did...I like it!
My employer is libiot-run, all for ObamaCare...I should hurl myself down the stairwell and sue 'em silly...
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La résistance des pays.
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We didn't vote for revenge, but we can exact it on those who did...I like it!
My employer is libiot-run, all for ObamaCare...I should hurl myself down the stairwell and sue 'em silly...
Go for the sexual harassment charge. Less pain. More fun. More personal.
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Personally I would rather move somewhere colder. The harsh winter has always been a superb selective force on the development of populations. I see winter as still having the capacity to deter the looter class, particularly when Leviathan's social infrastructure crumbles.
I hope the civil war begins sooner rather than later. My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.
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...My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.
Your comment reminds me of a few of the young people we experienced in China. Perfectly wonderful, pleasant young people, espousing the greatness of Mao Tse Tung, seemingly out of nowhere. It was bizarre, disconcerting, out of place, and so telling about how quickly things like genocide and liberty can be forgotten.
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Personally I would rather move somewhere colder. The harsh winter has always been a superb selective force on the development of populations. I see winter as still having the capacity to deter the looter class, particularly when Leviathan's social infrastructure crumbles.
I hope the civil war begins sooner rather than later. My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.
I would rather consider somewhere colder myself, but there are other weather considerations, such as growing seasons. If things get as bad as I expect, that's going to matter a lot.
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...My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.
Your comment reminds me of a few of the young people we experienced in China. Perfectly wonderful, pleasant young people, espousing the greatness of Mao Tse Tung, seemingly out of nowhere. It was bizarre, disconcerting, out of place, and so telling about how quickly things like genocide and liberty can be forgotten.
Last spring I heard a young mother from China speak on Chinese culture. She said it wasn't until she came to the US that she learned of China's rich and long history. She said those in China don't know it.
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the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.
That's the game plan.
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Personally I would rather move somewhere colder. The harsh winter has always been a superb selective force on the development of populations. I see winter as still having the capacity to deter the looter class, particularly when Leviathan's social infrastructure crumbles.
I hope the civil war begins sooner rather than later. My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.
This is why we need to collect history books (real ones, not Howard Zinn versions) and preach -- for the Remnant.
It's astounding to me that people who have only recently read the Constitution are shocked by its contents, as though to say "who could live that way?" because they're already propagandized into believing without government meddling in everything, we'd perish.
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We didn't vote for revenge, but we can exact it on those who did...I like it!
My employer is libiot-run, all for ObamaCare...I should hurl myself down the stairwell and sue 'em silly...
Go for the sexual harassment charge. Less pain. More fun. More personal.
Heh.
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It is up to us to instill in our children the values of our founding fathers. Public schools do not. I have been having conversations with my 16 year old regarding freedom and God given rights. I also had a conversation about elections not being popularity contests, I used his prom king and queen as an example of a popularity contest and how people will vote for someone not based on how best that person will govern but on whether they will be able to say later that they "voted for the winner".
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It is up to us to instill in our children the values of our founding fathers. Public schools do not. I have been having conversations with my 16 year old regarding freedom and God given rights. I also had a conversation about elections not being popularity contests, I used his prom king and queen as an example of a popularity contest and how people will vote for someone not based on how best that person will govern but on whether they will be able to say later that they "voted for the winner".
yep, having the same conversations with my kids
And, Pan, I've been saving printed books and plan to add more. Not sure where I'm putting them. But have to be careful because the progressives got started over a century ago and some "old" books are infected
My oldest is planning on writing a book on the history of one of our family lines. She's writing it from the perspective of how this family as it grew was an example of what happened in America and how their lives were examples of the principles we believe in and how they worked for that family. She will place the family through time in context of what was happening in the US at the time.
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It is up to us to instill in our children the values of our founding fathers. Public schools do not. I have been having conversations with my 16 year old regarding freedom and God given rights. I also had a conversation about elections not being popularity contests, I used his prom king and queen as an example of a popularity contest and how people will vote for someone not based on how best that person will govern but on whether they will be able to say later that they "voted for the winner".
yep, having the same conversations with my kids
And, Pan, I've been saving printed books and plan to add more. Not sure where I'm putting them. But have to be careful because the progressives got started over a century ago and some "old" books are infected
My oldest is planning on writing a book on the history of one of our family lines. She's writing it from the perspective of how this family as it grew was an example of what happened in America and how their lives were examples of the principles we believe in and how they worked for that family. She will place the family through time in context of what was happening in the US at the time.
You have a remarkable daughter, LV, just like her mother.
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Like I said in another post, for me "It's About Liberty" now equates to "It's About Survival". That is all I care to discuss now. Discussion of politics could not be emptier now.
One thing that concerns me is communication. We are so dependent on networks of electronic communication, and all of those things could be shut off virtually with the push of Leviathan's button. One thing that interests me is using wireless ethernet devices in a peer to peer relay network. You can replace the firmware on some devices to make them more like universal repeaters.
Reminds me of the old days of dial up BBSes. I used to run one that had a sort of precursor to Internet forums like this, called FidoNet. Basically each BBS was a unique node, and it would periodically dial up another BBS that functioned as the relay for a particular area. In turn it would dial up other relays. Systems all over the world participated in messaging this way. So if someone in Europe replied to a post in a group, it would eventually filter its way into every other participating system for an ultimately synchronized content for everyone who subscribed to that particular group. It wasn't near instant like the Internet, but usually within 24 hours it would complete its global distribution. There's a way to make wireless access points talk to each other this way, without any of them having an uplink to any other networks.
Alternate communication strategies. Discuss.
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Like I said in another post, for me "It's About Liberty" now equates to "It's About Survival". That is all I care to discuss now. Discussion of politics could not be emptier now.
One thing that concerns me is communication. We are so dependent on networks of electronic communication, and all of those things could be shut off virtually with the push of Leviathan's button. One thing that interests me is using wireless ethernet devices in a peer to peer relay network. You can replace the firmware on some devices to make them more like universal repeaters.
Reminds me of the old days of dial up BBSes. I used to run one that had a sort of precursor to Internet forums like this, called FidoNet. Basically each BBS was a unique node, and it would periodically dial up another BBS that functioned as the relay for a particular area. In turn it would dial up other relays. Systems all over the world participated in messaging this way. So if someone in Europe replied to a post in a group, it would eventually filter its way into every other participating system for an ultimately synchronized content for everyone who subscribed to that particular group. It wasn't near instant like the Internet, but usually within 24 hours it would complete its global distribution. There's a way to make wireless access points talk to each other this way, without any of them having an uplink to any other networks.
Alternate communication strategies. Discuss.
Ham radio, I'd say. What kind of range does CB have?
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What kind of range does CB have?
It's a low power communication system so the range is quite limited.
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What kind of range does CB have?
It's a low power communication system so the range is quite limited.
No power boosting possible?
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http://www.nat-com.org/cbfaq.htm (http://www.nat-com.org/cbfaq.htm)
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How far can I reach on my CB?
Once again this is a pretty open question. All things being the same you can expect anywhere between 1 and 15 miles between mobile units. There are all sorts of variables, including terrain, how crowded the channel is, or even types and numbers of buildings around the transmitting/receiving units. Base stations can expect about 5 to 10 miles between base and mobile and 10 to 30 miles between base units.
--SNIP--
Am I allowed to use a linear amplilfiere?
Absolutely not. CB radios are only permitted to operate at 5 watts (input) which is about 4 watts out. Using any additional power is illegal and can many times cause interference to your neighbor's electronics appliances including such things as TVs, VCRs, Stereos, and even telephones. It will not make you popular with your neighbors to say the least, and since you are operating illegally, they could file a complaint against your operations.
--SNIP--
I'm sure the power can be boosted. But I would think you'd want better communication capability at over 30 miles, which is not all that far. CBs may be good for a small network of localized people, but at 30 miles, they'd probably join up for added strength.
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http://www.nat-com.org/cbfaq.htm (http://www.nat-com.org/cbfaq.htm)
--SNIP--
How far can I reach on my CB?
Once again this is a pretty open question. All things being the same you can expect anywhere between 1 and 15 miles between mobile units. There are all sorts of variables, including terrain, how crowded the channel is, or even types and numbers of buildings around the transmitting/receiving units. Base stations can expect about 5 to 10 miles between base and mobile and 10 to 30 miles between base units.
--SNIP--
Am I allowed to use a linear amplilfiere?
Absolutely not. CB radios are only permitted to operate at 5 watts (input) which is about 4 watts out. Using any additional power is illegal and can many times cause interference to your neighbor's electronics appliances including such things as TVs, VCRs, Stereos, and even telephones. It will not make you popular with your neighbors to say the least, and since you are operating illegally, they could file a complaint against your operations.
--SNIP--
I'm sure the power can be boosted. But I would think you'd want better communication capability at over 30 miles, which is not all that far. CBs may be good for a small network of localized people, but at 30 miles, they'd probably join up for added strength.
What/who would "probably join up for added strength"?
In any case, good; the power can be boosted for closer-in; HAM for longer distances, and I don't give a good goldammy what "they" say about illegal. TSHTF, my neighbors won't be watching TV or filing any complaints.
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My daughter doesn't function well in extreme heat so she's not interested in Texas for that reason. She actually functions better in the cold though so that's a plus in terms of survival as mentioned earlier. I can't tell you how significant it is that my husband would even discuss moving.
Tell me about ham radios. On occassion I've thought about it but never stop to really look into it. I'm not electronically savvy but then I'm not stupid either and I can learn.
Thanks for the compliment,Pan. I look at it as proof that what I believe and have taught my children actually works.
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When I bought my home in '08 I had lots of offers to help move but somehow when the rubber hit the road I found myself alone. So each night after work I would load the van and make another trip. The appliances and sofa were a bear but I got r done.
I can do it again if need be.
PS: I worked for an outfit that sold linear amplifiers for CD radios back in the 80's. We did a big business to Alaska, Idaho, and Montana. There's nothing to hooking one up and you use the CD in the same fashion. Just don't get caught with one.
(not in the age of Øbomination at any rate)
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My daughter doesn't function well in extreme heat so she's not interested in Texas for that reason. She actually functions better in the cold though so that's a plus in terms of survival as mentioned earlier. I can't tell you how significant it is that my husband would even discuss moving.
Tell me about ham radios. On occassion I've thought about it but never stop to really look into it. I'm not electronically savvy but then I'm not stupid either and I can learn.
Thanks for the compliment,Pan. I look at it as proof that what I believe and have taught my children actually works.
You're welcome, LV.
There's some information about HAM radios in the mess I hastily transferred from the IAF to here, but I will start a new thread on communication in the TEOTWAWKI section and hope Radioman contributes what he knows.
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When I bought my home in '08 I had lots of offers to help move but somehow when the rubber hit the road I found myself alone. So each night after work I would load the van and make another trip. The appliances and sofa were a bear but I got r done.
I can do it again if need be.
PS: I worked for an outfit that sold linear amplifiers for CD radios back in the 80's. We did a big business to Alaska, Idaho, and Montana. There's nothing to hooking one up and you use the CD in the same fashion. Just don't get caught with one.
(not in the age of Øbomination at any rate)
I can't count the numbers of folks we helped to move and I didn't mind at all. (Guess who got the job of directing the loading of the truck? That's right, me, because we'd moved so many times, I knew how to do it so nothing got broken.) I'll tell you one thing; most people pack to move like 'my sistah's azz', which in Italian-speak means they don't know how to do it and don't know they don't know.
If you feel inclined, we'd appreciate you dropping what you know about comms into the new thread.
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We just elected a democratic house and senate to go along with a major loony lefty governor. We are now a deep blue state. I am screwed!
I live in the heart of St. Paul and we have no, none, zip, zero, nada elected republicans in office in this socialist city and the @#$*% residents of St. Paul just voted on raising taxes again for the St. Paul Schools. My property taxes are absurd even though the housing market is stagnant the powers to be thought I did not pay enough taxes and the #$%^%@*$ hit me hard.
Washington state elected every leftist on the ballot. I haven't had anyone representing me for 20 years. We had an excellent chance of electing the first pubbie governor since about 1984 and the milquetoast blew it. We had virtually everyone in the state party telling him to pull his head out and he just ignore us. Loser POS.
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We just elected a democratic house and senate to go along with a major loony lefty governor. We are now a deep blue state. I am screwed!
I live in the heart of St. Paul and we have no, none, zip, zero, nada elected republicans in office in this socialist city and the @#$*% residents of St. Paul just voted on raising taxes again for the St. Paul Schools. My property taxes are absurd even though the housing market is stagnant the powers to be thought I did not pay enough taxes and the #$%^%@*$ hit me hard.
Washington state elected every leftist on the ballot. I haven't had anyone representing me for 20 years. We had an excellent chance of electing the first pubbie governor since about 1984 and the milquetoast blew it. We had virtually everyone in the state party telling him to pull his head out and he just ignore us. Loser POS.
Yeah. But then... Dino Rossi won twice, and he still lost.
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Logging out. So long and see you around. Take care and good luck.
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Louisiana. Sales tax (varies parish to parish) at my house is 8.75%. Does have a state income tax (currently around 3%). Property tax: The first $75k is non taxable, making it tolerable. If you live south of I-10, though, you're gonna think coon-asses talk funny.
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Louisiana. Sales tax (varies parish to parish) at my house is 8.75%. Does have a state income tax (currently around 3%). Property tax: The first $75k is non taxable, making it tolerable. If you live south of I-10, though, you're gonna think coon-asses talk funny.
I lived soth of I-10 ... Between Highland Rd and Perkins to be exact !
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The conservative states of the west are Californicated. The conservative states of the south are Yankeefied. You simply cannot escape the parasites.
Be careful of that "Yankeefied" stuff . I lived for quite some time in the South ... Vicksburg and Baton Rouge . I liked them and they liked me right back !
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The conservative states of the west are Californicated. The conservative states of the south are Yankeefied. You simply cannot escape the parasites.
Be careful of that "Yankeefied" stuff . I lived for quite some time in the South ... Vicksburg and Baton Rouge . I liked them and they liked me right back !
North Carolina would never have been close, and it would not have gone blue in 2008, if not for the huge numbers of transplants from NY. That's a fact. And to think that not a small number of them moved to get away from exactly the decrepit conditions brought about by their politics. So what do they do when they settle a new area? Start shifting the new place's politics. Some people just can't help but sh*t where they eat.
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The conservative states of the west are Californicated. The conservative states of the south are Yankeefied. You simply cannot escape the parasites.
Be careful of that "Yankeefied" stuff . I lived for quite some time in the South ... Vicksburg and Baton Rouge . I liked them and they liked me right back !
North Carolina would never have been close, and it would not have gone blue in 2008, if not for the huge numbers of transplants from NY. That's a fact. And to think that not a small number of them moved to get away from exactly the decrepit conditions brought about by their politics. So what do they do when they settle a new area? Start shifting the new place's politics. Some people just can't help but sh*t where they eat.
That's why these people are MOrons!(Morons with a capital MO) They will never learn!
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The conservative states of the west are Californicated. The conservative states of the south are Yankeefied. You simply cannot escape the parasites.
Be careful of that "Yankeefied" stuff . I lived for quite some time in the South ... Vicksburg and Baton Rouge . I liked them and they liked me right back !
North Carolina would never have been close, and it would not have gone blue in 2008, if not for the huge numbers of transplants from NY. That's a fact. And to think that not a small number of them moved to get away from exactly the decrepit conditions brought about by their politics. So what do they do when they settle a new area? Start shifting the new place's politics. Some people just can't help but sh*t where they eat.
DemonRats always do!
Like the new avatar G, sign of distress is most appropriate now. I was wondering last night if I should remove the flag decal on my back window of my car and put a new one on inverted, but I doubt most morons are aware of what that means...
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Okay, I split out the "financial" and "location" portions of this thread and began new ones in TEOTWAWKI. If anybody thinks I ought to split out the communication themed posts as well and add them to the "Comm" thread in the same section, say so and I will. But I'm advising y'all, doing it is a pita.
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Okay, I split out the "financial" and "location" portions of this thread and began new ones in TEOTWAWKI. If anybody thinks I ought to split out the communication themed posts as well and add them to the "Comm" thread in the same section, say so and I will. But I'm advising y'all, doing it is a pita.
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Thanks Pan, you rock! ::thumbsup::
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'At's m'job.
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OK - so what happened to all the tea party crowds that showed up to vote back in 2010? I just saw some pictures that were taken in D.C. - one heck of a crowd with a lot of enthusiasm (back then). I remember the Beck event in D.C. a coupla years ago with huge crowds.
Why did these faithfuls go M.I.A.??
I just don't get it. One step forward in 2010, then 10 steps backward in 2012.
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OK - so what happened to all the tea party crowds that showed up to vote back in 2010? I just saw some pictures that were taken in D.C. - one heck of a crowd with a lot of enthusiasm (back then). I remember the Beck event in D.C. a coupla years ago with huge crowds.
Why did these faithfuls go M.I.A.??
I just don't get it. One step forward in 2010, then 10 steps backward in 2012.
You have one party who convinces their side to vote the ticket. Big bird could run and win. Our side? Too many people will not vote if the candidate isn't " perfect ". The libs are a conglomeration of special interest groups with one trait in common.....they will vote for thier guy even if he is a murderer.
We have the tea party (some didn't vote), so called evangelicals ( some didn't vote), paulbots (voted third party or didn't vote), moderates ( who are not moderate), and rovians ( some didn't vote)
We lose because we stand on our principles. The other side has none. Libs realize it and why they will push our 3 rd party guys. Libs may have a 3 rd party guy but you'll never see their name.
We are all worried how we can " reach out to minorities" when all we need to do is get our side to vote.
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OK - so what happened to all the tea party crowds that showed up to vote back in 2010? I just saw some pictures that were taken in D.C. - one heck of a crowd with a lot of enthusiasm (back then). I remember the Beck event in D.C. a coupla years ago with huge crowds.
Why did these faithfuls go M.I.A.??
I just don't get it. One step forward in 2010, then 10 steps backward in 2012.
I don't get it either. I've seen posts from Conservatives saying they just couldn't vote for "another grey suit" issued forth from the RINOs.
But, I am highly suspiciously doubtful there were eight million of them.
Something reeks.
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BO + Soros Machines + Soros Secretaries of State + Sandy - Non-voting & 3rd party voting people - disaffected conservatives + Ruling Class GOP nominee + MFM + Free Shyt - God/Morals = EPIC FAIL
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OK - so what happened to all the tea party crowds that showed up to vote back in 2010? I just saw some pictures that were taken in D.C. - one heck of a crowd with a lot of enthusiasm (back then). I remember the Beck event in D.C. a coupla years ago with huge crowds.
Why did these faithfuls go M.I.A.??
I just don't get it. One step forward in 2010, then 10 steps backward in 2012.
I don't get it either. I've seen posts from Conservatives saying they just couldn't vote for "another grey suit" issued forth from the RINOs.
But, I am highly suspiciously doubtful there were eight million of them.
Something reeks.
If votes went missing somebody would have raised a stink,nobody did. They just didn't vote!
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It could be possible if the fix was in and we the voters were the only ones/one's not to know it.
Whatever. I want to know more about those three million.
I want to know every demographic detail about these POSs.
I want to know because these are the same people that will never have my back or yours. And in dreadful times like these we need to know for sure.
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Then there's this http://townhall.com/tipsheet/heatherginsberg/2012/11/10/breaking_massive_voter_fraud_in_st_lucie_county_florida (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/heatherginsberg/2012/11/10/breaking_massive_voter_fraud_in_st_lucie_county_florida) and this
http://www.rnla.org/votefraud.asp (http://www.rnla.org/votefraud.asp)
We all heard about the Philadelphia judges being thrown out so how much fraud went undiscovered under the cover of isolation.
The vote was a fraud though and through. Swing states had the most to lose so that's where employed and behold the results of more people voted than were registered.
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I think I posted this, already but I'm blond.
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621 (http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621)
We have been had and I don't think this is our first time
There is no integrity in the voting system
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I think I posted this, already but I'm blond.
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621 (http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621)
We have been had and I don't think this is our first time
There is no integrity in the voting system
I, for one, hadn't seen it so thanks for posting.
Interesting discussion although seeing Bev Harris's name there immediately made my blood go cold.
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I think I posted this, already but I'm blond.
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621 (http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621)
We have been had and I don't think this is our first time
There is no integrity in the voting system
I, for one, hadn't seen it so thanks for posting.
Interesting discussion although seeing Bev Harris's name there immediately made my blood go cold.
Oh? Details?
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Bev Harris was a major player over at DU several years ago. She is/was a conspiracy theorist who believed that the Republican party was trying to steal elections through manipulation of electronic voting machines. She formed the "black box" coalition of like-deluded leftists and assorted misfits and got into trouble for shilling at DU to raise mney for her private enterprise. She was invited to leave by the management.
She is the one responsible for the phrase "We're just $10 away from victory" - urging the gullible to kick in that last ten bucks needed to ensure the defeat of their enemies.
I find it richly ironic that the worm has turned on electronic vote fraud now and she finds herself in the uncomfortable position of having to defend people like Mitt Romney (in his "ties" to Hart Intercivic).
When thinking of Bev it is best to keep in mind the old axiom, "It is impossible to pick up a turd by the "clean" end"
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I think I posted this, already but I'm blond.
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621 (http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/82333.html?1352588621)
We have been had and I don't think this is our first time
There is no integrity in the voting system
I, for one, hadn't seen it so thanks for posting.
Interesting discussion although seeing Bev Harris's name there immediately made my blood go cold.
Oh? Details?
Yeah, caught them hauling TPOS to the back room at the live blog, he was chastened. As for calling Ohio and PA and more start here and follow the links:
What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote
(http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html?spref=tw)
HT: SDA
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Yup, all opposition has been removed...physically?
Nothing to see here, move along...
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