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Title: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2012, 07:54:24 AM
Don't hold your breath waiting for Obongo's DoJ and Eric Holder to do jack sh*t to stop this band of Mohammadan cultists from carrying out what they want!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/well-find-him-black-militia-organization-vows-vengeance-on-trayvon-martin-shooter/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/well-find-him-black-militia-organization-vows-vengeance-on-trayvon-martin-shooter/)

Yeah, ready made Obama Brownshirts!

What could possibly go wrong?

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 21, 2012, 08:34:46 AM
I'm reminded of the event that occurred several years ago where a bunch of black agitators went into a predominantly white neighborhood looking for trouble and were met by hundreds of citizens who then taunted and cajoled the blacks until they beat a hasty retreat. Colorado perhaps?

I don't know the current status of this case and whether or not charges are pending against the shooter but I do know that threats to kidnap him will only incite violent response. If that is what they seek (and I do believe that it is) then all I can add is....

Molon Labe mofos!
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Pandora on March 21, 2012, 09:48:39 AM
The case has gone to the grand jury to determine if an indictment of the shooter is warranted.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: trapeze on March 21, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
When I have the opportunity to listen to talk radio my usual selection for "after Rush" is a station out of Tampa. The guy is lightly syndicated (http://www.schnittshow.com/main.html) so he has an audience in several states and does a fairly good job...better IMO than Hannity. (I listen to him via the iPhone app, I Heart Radio)

Yesterday, this story was going hot and heavy since it's a Florida story...

A few things to consider:

1. George Zimmerman does not appear to be caucasian. Despite his name he appears to be hispanic. Here is a picture:

(http://media2.abcactionnews.com//photo/2012/03/20/George_Zimmerman_20120320013947_320_240.JPG)

I don't know if this makes a difference or not but until I heard this point mentioned on the talk show I assumed that the shooter was white...which fits, of course, the media narrative. The victim is young (17) and did not live in the neighborhood...he was reportedly visiting family or friends in the neighborhood.

2. The shooter is using a Florida self defense law called "stand your ground" and this is mentioned (by way of a link) in the above Blaze article. This law allows a person to shoot an attacker rather than requiring that they retreat. But...

3. There is very strong evidence that the shooter did not merely stand his ground but instead was the actual aggressor in the encounter. I heard a recorded 911 call on the talk show where the shooter calls police to report a suspicious person. He describes the person running away from him (the victim was returning home from a convenience store with a drink and a snack) and asks the dispatcher if he should follow him. The dispatcher tells him to NOT pursue. He apparently disregarded the instructions from the 911 dispatcher.

Here is a youtube with the complete audio from the 911 call...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jL72w4xiTVU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jL72w4xiTVU#)

4. There had been a string of burglaries in the area which apparently prompted the neighborhood watch program...of which Zimmerman was a part...

5. If you listen closely to the audio of the 911 call (at around the 1:37 mark) you can hear him say, "These assholes. They always get away," which appears to be followed (at the 2:23 mark) by "These f**kin' coons."

6. There were no eye witnesses to the shooting. Plenty of audio, though. Apart from the girl who was on the phone with the victim at the time of the shooting there were audio recordings made by people in the surrounding houses. I heard those on the talk show yesterday and you can hear the gunshot when it happens.

What does all this mean? The shooter looks guilty to me but I will let a jury sort it out.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2012, 10:32:43 AM
Forget the MFM saying this guy is Hispanic, as far as they are concerned he's white, he's a racist, and even if guilty it does not exonerate vigilantism by a bunch of BNLM thugs.  But that latter part will also not get any airtime in the MFM.  Normal people should let the Grand Jury process proceed unencumbered, but it appears we are dealing with a hostile press and a more hostile black community so either way this breaks they will not be happy.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: trapeze on March 21, 2012, 10:59:33 AM
I don't see the black racist organization following through with their threat. These groups tend to be all show and no go. I think that they use crap like this to stir up interest in their organization and maybe raise money.

The O'Bongo admin and justice department is, though, I believe, stirring the pot in the country and hoping for a major unrest situation. This summer's OWS crapfest should prove illustrative of this.

That said, I don't think that the OWS will (not withstanding the friendly press treatment) garner anywhere near the amount of public sympathy this go 'round. I think that they will be largely regarded as the jerks and bums that they are. I would be curious to see some favorable/unfavorable polls done on OWS but I don't think there will be any forthcoming. Last year the OWSers got a lot of cash donations from the useful idiots who "supported" their message. This year I don't see them raking in very much. It's yesterday's news as far as the public is concerned and there will not be very much support for a bunch of bums who are still not looking for work and who still don't bathe. So their money will have to come from elsewhere...unions and the usual Soros type suspects.

Still, you never know where O'Bongo and his henchmen will get their big civil unrest thing from. These things are dynamic by nature. It could end up being this Zimmerman clod who gets a lot of black on white violence which will be allowed to spread. Remember the post Rodney King violence in LA? That's what O'Bongo is looking for except on a national basis.

Personally, I am hoping that the mess metastasizes at the Democrat convention and the "peaceful protesters" burn the city to the ground while O'Bongo's thugs prevent the locals from keeping and restoring order. Thats should prove a heck of an inducement to re-elect the bum. You know that the OWSers will be trying to disrupt the Republican convention, too, but as we all know that's significantly harder to do because the R's aren't naturally prone to violence like the D's are.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2012, 11:10:30 AM
Heh, I would be really entertained by a trashed Dem convention, Trap!  That would be so poetic!

But I wonder if the OWSer's won't get funding from a different source this summer...their parents, getting those insufferable idiots out of the basement if only for few weeks would allow them to fumigate the place and perhaps the brighter ones will throw all their crap out and change the locks!
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 21, 2012, 11:14:08 AM
I think the shooter looks guilty too Trap - and if he is found to be so by a jury of his peers, he should be prosecuted and sentenced as an example of how Castle Doctrine law works. He operated outside the law, he gets punished, the same as any other criminal. Castle Doctrine didn't kill that boy, as feverishly as the media is trying to make it seem that way. Breaking Castle Doctrine law is how this boy ended up dead, if indeed the man is found guilty.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: trapeze on March 21, 2012, 11:24:47 AM
They tried to get this going back in 2008. Remember this?

(http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/08/15/123_r68-logo.jpg)

Personally, I am hoping for this type of response from the local law enforcement types:

(http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/6/1507ec9948fbb2184ed5535b31b29374/l.jpg)

But it probably won't happen.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2012, 11:30:26 AM
Maybe 4 years later they'll get it right, Trap!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/Donkey20Kong.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Glock32 on March 21, 2012, 11:41:32 AM
There is a lot of animosity between Hispanics and Blacks.  It's especially pronounced on the West Coast, but Florida wouldn't surprise me either. Regardless of how it all turns out, you know it will be da White Man's fault in the end.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 21, 2012, 11:54:25 AM
Yup, like I said earlier, no matter how the case turns out, that community will not be happy, Whitey is always getting away with something!

Some might think that a raaaaacist attitudue!   ::speechless::
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Sectionhand on March 22, 2012, 03:42:21 PM


A few things to consider:

1. George Zimmerman does not appear to be caucasian. Despite his name he appears to be hispanic. Here is a picture:


One point to make here . There are a lot of Hispanics from Argentina , Brazil , etc. by this name and others of a Germanic tilt . There's been a German influence down there for many years even prior to WWII . Also you need to be carefull about the race classification . In the census Hispanics are classified as white . Surprisingly enough , so are those of Arab descent .
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 22, 2012, 03:46:36 PM

Redefining everything.

Mexicans and Spaniards are Caucasians, Arabs are Semites. 
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: John Florida on March 22, 2012, 08:26:59 PM
  I think he's innocent! Let splain masef,I heard that Sharpton was coming to town and that's all I need to know that this guy is clean. ::thinking::
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Sectionhand on March 23, 2012, 04:59:24 AM
Maybe Zimmerman should have held his fire until Sharpton showed up in the neighborhood .
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2012, 08:05:22 AM
 ::hysterical::

Yeah, that's all da commune-ity needs is the race-baiting shakedown artist coming to town to get this guy off the hook!

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
Huh, making this Zimmerman sound like a garden-variety multiculutural type, like any Dem.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-trayvon-martin-shooting-zimmerman-letter-20120315,0,1716605.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-trayvon-martin-shooting-zimmerman-letter-20120315,0,1716605.story)

And Claypso Louie threatening "retaliation".  I wonder who he thinks is targeted?!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farrakhan-tweets-where-there-is-no-justice-there-will-be-no-peace-law-of-retaliation-may-be-applied/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farrakhan-tweets-where-there-is-no-justice-there-will-be-no-peace-law-of-retaliation-may-be-applied/)

 ::)
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2012, 11:52:07 AM
OMG!  Obama - “If I Had a Son, He’d Look Like Trayvon”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/obama-weighs-in-on-race-row-after-hispanic-man-shoots-fl-teen-if-i-had-a-son-hed-look-like-trayvon/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/obama-weighs-in-on-race-row-after-hispanic-man-shoots-fl-teen-if-i-had-a-son-hed-look-like-trayvon/)

What a whore!

And no, if you had a son, Barry, he would probably be wearing a dress!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2012, 12:08:46 PM
Quote
... it is “absolutely imperative” that all levels of government investigate “every aspect” of how the unarmed boy was shot.

This is absolutely ridiculous!  Why is the FBI involved?  Why must ALL levels of government get involved here?
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
It's racial grandstanding and nobody wants to be on the wrong side of the media frenzy to lynch this Zimmerman guy.  Even though this guy looks like he screwed the pooch, the rush to arrest, convict and sentence is all that matters, due process and constitutional jurisdiction are getting trampled, happens all the damn time.

This is the world we live in.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 23, 2012, 01:45:09 PM

Hope the cops on the scene did a thorough job.
Sharptone & Farakan the only one remaining is
Jesse.  It'll be a AAA lynching.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 23, 2012, 01:48:19 PM
As Ace says:

Quote
If the facts are as the media reports them, then it does seem like Zimmerman was following around a kid who wasn't doing anything illegal at all. Then again, if the facts were as the media reported them, the Duke Lacrosse Team was guilty of violent gang-rape.

While the liberal media screams, once again, "Trust us, and forget all about our hitting the Panic Button time and time again before!," some of us would like to see what the facts really are before coming to a conclusion.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
I went through all the comments at the PJ Media piece by Jack Dunphy.  (Whew.)

All I have to say is, as the public is not privy to all the evidence, attempting to make any kind of judgement now is premature.  Race has gotten dragged into the story by the usual suspects and so people are being drawn into siding up, complicated by the hoplophobes and their anti-gun bigotry.  Some of that is pissing me off; "neighborhood watch should not be armed".  Are these people crazy?  Nevermind, rhetorical question, and the only thing of which I AM sure right now.

This one needs a lot more time than the 24-hour rule, especially with the LSM stirring the racial pot for all it's worth.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 23, 2012, 02:25:52 PM

First report I heard said it was a gated community.

Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 23, 2012, 02:36:28 PM
This Zimmerman fella should be held accountable to the law and impartial justice.

It doesn't look good for him; he was instructed by 911 dispatchers not to pursue, and he did anyway, and then shot an unarmed kid. I don't know how much more cut-and-dried it could be, unless there is other evidence presented that changes the dynamic. But the possibility of additional evidence is a real possibility, so public judgment should be withheld.

Aside from that, it's important to remember that Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law is specific, and if Zimmerman is guilty of murder or manslaughter, he BROKE that law - he did not use that law as a justification for killing. SYG will be demagogued, but unjustly so. The very real possibility exists that if Zimmerman had followed the SYG law, the boy would still be alive, and Zimmerman would not be under scrutiny.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Libertas on March 23, 2012, 02:38:49 PM
Agree with all the above.

It is a mess and all the MFMing and race-baiting and finger-pointing is really throwing a lot of dirt in the air.  Everybody, especially those left-leaning busybodies, need to step back and cool out and stop impeding due process.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 23, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
I went through all the comments at the PJ Media piece by Jack Dunphy.  (Whew.)

All I have to say is, as the public is not privy to all the evidence, attempting to make any kind of judgement now is premature.  Race has gotten dragged into the story by the usual suspects and so people are being drawn into siding up, complicated by the hoplophobes and their anti-gun bigotry.  Some of that is pissing me off; "neighborhood watch should not be armed".  Are these people crazy?  Nevermind, rhetorical question, and the only thing of which I AM sure right now.

This one needs a lot more time than the 24-hour rule, especially with the LSM stirring the racial pot for all it's worth.

For some folks jumping to conclusions seems to be the only exercise they get  ;D
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 23, 2012, 02:44:10 PM

Has any source defined SYG other than the media?
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2012, 02:52:02 PM

Has any source defined SYG other than the media?


Here >>>>>>>

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/23/geraldo-blame-the-hoodie-for-trayvon-martin-shooting-as-much-as-the-shooter/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/23/geraldo-blame-the-hoodie-for-trayvon-martin-shooting-as-much-as-the-shooter/)

Scroll down to Update II.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
Geraldo Rivera (from the Hot Air link):

Quote
   “I have a different take, Brian, on that,” Rivera said. “I believe that George Zimmerman, the overzealous neighborhood watch captain should be investigated to the fullest extent of the law and if he is criminally liable, he should be prosecuted. But I am urging the parents of black and Latino youngsters particularly to not let their children go out wearing hoodies. I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was.”

    According to Rivera, the so-called hoodie has negative connotations attached to it, which may inspire ill-advised reflexive reactions.

    “When you see a kid walking down the street, particularly a dark skinned kid like my son Cruz who I constantly yelled at when he was going out wearing a damn hoodie or those pants around his ankles,” Rivera said. “Take that hood off. People look at you and what’s the instant identification? What’s the instant association? Its crime scene surveillance tapes. Every time you see someone stick up a 7-Eleven, the kid is wearing a hoodie. Every time you see a mugging on a surveillance camera or get the old lady in the alcove, it’s the kid with a hoodie. You have to recognize that this whole stylizing yourself as a gangsta — you’re going to be a gangsta wannabe? Well, people are going to perceive you as a menace. That’s what happens. It is an instant reflexive action.”

I find it very interesting that Rivera did not, for once, attribute to racism the "instant reflexive action", instead citing crime scene surveillance tapes. IOW: reality.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 23, 2012, 03:07:09 PM

I'm confused, oh, also, that Florida law is a piece of work;
wasn't Zimmerman on his own property?  If he wasn't on
his own property was he acting solely in the capacity of
private citizen?

If he wasn't on his own property or not acting in some
official neighborhood rep capacity he'd better get a
good lawyer.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 23, 2012, 03:16:37 PM

"I’m not sure how Florida’s Stand Your Ground law is written, though; it might allow someone who got threatened to chase the person who did the threatening with the intent of using deadly force. If so, that’s incredibly stupid,"

No buddy it's not stupid.  If you don't mean it don't say it. 
A criminal act is a criminal act. If someone breaks into your'
house or your neighbors that person is committing a criminal
act and it is your duty as a citizen to stop it.

Oh no no no, this is the New America we don't behave that
way anymore you neanderthal.
  ::rockethrow::
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 23, 2012, 03:34:42 PM
This is getting so completely out of hand.

"Geraldo Rivera's Son, Gabriel, 'Ashamed' Of His Father's Opinion About Trayvon Martin"

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/318772/20120323/geraldo-rivera-s-son-gabriel-ashamed-trayvon.htm (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/318772/20120323/geraldo-rivera-s-son-gabriel-ashamed-trayvon.htm)

"Hoodies on the Hill: Congressional Staffers Rally for Trayvon Martin"

http://news.yahoo.com/hoodies-hill-congressional-staffers-rally-trayvon-martin-200918029--abc-news.html (http://news.yahoo.com/hoodies-hill-congressional-staffers-rally-trayvon-martin-200918029--abc-news.html)

"Community leaders urge Houstonians to wear hoodies in support of slain teen "

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Community-leaders-urge-Houstonians-to-wear-hoodies-in-support-of-slain-teen-144009426.html (http://www.khou.com/news/local/Community-leaders-urge-Houstonians-to-wear-hoodies-in-support-of-slain-teen-144009426.html)

"Trayvon Martin Case: Lebron James Tweets Hoodie Picture In Support"

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/318736/20120323/trayvon-martin-case-lebron-james-hoodie.htm (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/318736/20120323/trayvon-martin-case-lebron-james-hoodie.htm)

Keep on pushing it y'all; let's make it bleed
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
Ah, so the Left is now targeting Geraldo.  Hah!  How long you figure before he issues a "clarifying statement"?

You just cannot talk reality to these friggin people.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 23, 2012, 03:57:32 PM
This is getting so completely out of hand...

...Keep on pushing it y'all; let's make it bleed

Picking scabs.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
Worse.  They've picked off the scab and are now probing the open wound.  This will not end well.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: John Florida on March 23, 2012, 05:51:38 PM

"I’m not sure how Florida’s Stand Your Ground law is written, though; it might allow someone who got threatened to chase the person who did the threatening with the intent of using deadly force. If so, that’s incredibly stupid,"

No buddy it's not stupid.  If you don't mean it don't say it. 
A criminal act is a criminal act. If someone breaks into your'
house or your neighbors that person is committing a criminal
act and it is your duty as a citizen to stop it.

Oh no no no, this is the New America we don't behave that
way anymore you neanderthal.
  ::rockethrow::


 He was inside a gated community not his home.The law does not allow you to chase anybody down,It's what the name says it's stand you ground not chase them down.
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 23, 2012, 09:21:43 PM
Hope the cops on the scene did a thorough job.
Sharptone & Farakan the only one remaining is
Jesse.  It'll be a AAA lynching.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Jesse...!!!
                                                           (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQp0mCl-Za2ChutJOuNmhvPSYvba8Ld76enTdAupUnQUOB1lgi9qg)  

L A Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-case-jesse-jackson-20120323,0,2131299.story) - Civil rights leader Jesse Jackson said Friday that he's grateful the rest of the country has sat up and taken notice of the tragic slaying of Trayvon Martin. But he can't help but wonder: Why has it taken so long for everyone else to recognize the chronic injustices that African Americans face?

ETA:
“Anytime an innocent life is taken it's a tragedy,” Bush said. “You've got to let the process work.” (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/arlington/headlines/20120323-in-arlington-jeb-bush-says-stand-your-ground-invalid-in-trayvon-martin-case.ece)

After pronouncing Trayvon innocent and Zimmerman guilty Jeb Bush says we need to let the process work.  Hey, Jebbie, thanks.



the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense circulated a “wanted dead or alive” (http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11778354-wanted-dead-or-alive-poster-issued-for-george-zimmerman-by-new-black-panther-party)


Weighing his words carefully, the country's first African American president pleaded for national "soul searching" (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-soul-searching-teens-killing-obama-150332546.html)

Hey, DS, America didn't shoot the kid.


I'm sorry for the parents of Trayvon, I'm sorry they lost their son, that this event happened, I pray for his justice but this crap that's going on is not going to help justice at all.

Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 23, 2012, 10:09:24 PM
"It's getting all crazy up in here!"

(http://filmpopper.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Prison-Mike-Steve-Carell-The-Office-1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 24, 2012, 11:31:15 AM
Hope the cops on the scene did a thorough job.
Sharptone & Farakan the only one remaining is
Jesse.  It'll be a AAA lynching.

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Jesse...!!!
                                                           (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQp0mCl-Za2ChutJOuNmhvPSYvba8Ld76enTdAupUnQUOB1lgi9qg)  

L A Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-case-jesse-jackson-20120323,0,2131299.story) - Civil rights leader Jesse Jackson said Friday that he's grateful the rest of the country has sat up and taken notice of the tragic slaying of Trayvon Martin. But he can't help but wonder: Why has it taken so long for everyone else to recognize the chronic injustices that African Americans face?

ETA:
“Anytime an innocent life is taken it's a tragedy,” Bush said. “You've got to let the process work.” (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/arlington/headlines/20120323-in-arlington-jeb-bush-says-stand-your-ground-invalid-in-trayvon-martin-case.ece)

After pronouncing Trayvon innocent and Zimmerman guilty Jeb Bush says we need to let the process work.  Hey, Jebbie, thanks.



the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense circulated a “wanted dead or alive” (http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11778354-wanted-dead-or-alive-poster-issued-for-george-zimmerman-by-new-black-panther-party)


Weighing his words carefully, the country's first African American president pleaded for national "soul searching" (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-soul-searching-teens-killing-obama-150332546.html)

Hey, DS, America didn't shoot the kid.


I'm sorry for the parents of Trayvon, I'm sorry they lost their son, that this event happened, I pray for his justice but this crap that's going on is not going to help justice at all.




Oh no, could the media have misrepresented this incident and responsible for bringing the AAA team of race baiting riot mongers to Florida?  Could the president have been correct when he said Trayvon could have been his son?

My Fox Tampa (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012)


But one man's testimony could be key for the police.

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red

...
His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

"When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

...
Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 12:02:18 PM
And that new information is why I said in my first post that "the shooter looks guilty but I will let a jury sort it out."

Instead, as usual, we have been treated to trial by media and trial by race baiters.

Completely typical and completely predictable.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 12:08:23 PM
I think that this topic is going to be around for a while. This has the makings of the next Rodney King scenario complete with serial hyperventilation and riot inducement by the race baiting industry.

Because of that I am going to (with apologies to the original poster, Libertas) re-name this thread to one that will be more recognizable to everyone.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 24, 2012, 12:10:52 PM
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012 (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012)

Not lookin good for the race baiters. If the witness is credible, the facts now tend to show that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, had him on the ground on his back, and was pummeling his fat Hispanic ass. How was Tray-tray to know that Mr. Zimmerman was carrying?

Funny thing, listening to the 911 tapes, I was thinking the kid was screaming like a little girl. Now it appears that Zimmerman was doing the screaming "get him off! get him off!"
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 24, 2012, 01:44:32 PM

Will the real Travon come forward?

Quote
http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/55de24857d04410d9c31ba6da9e4946e-150x150.jpg

Quote
http://cdn.times247.com/media/pictures/4f6cab9d67c9be1e36000021/RN%20_244e18b043fbad080a0f6a7067003e2c.jpg?1332521885 (http://cdn.times247.com/media/pictures/4f6cab9d67c9be1e36000021/RN%20_244e18b043fbad080a0f6a7067003e2c.jpg?1332521885)
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 24, 2012, 01:48:19 PM

Loser pays should also apply to the govt.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 02:48:32 PM
(http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/55de24857d04410d9c31ba6da9e4946e-150x150.jpg)

(http://cdn.times247.com/media/pictures/4f6cab9d67c9be1e36000021/RN%20_244e18b043fbad080a0f6a7067003e2c.jpg?1332521885)

But you missed this one...

(http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/Trayvon_Martin_gangsta.jpg)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 24, 2012, 03:13:36 PM
Oh, but he was just visiting his step-momma, and went to get candy for his lil' sister. He's just an innnocceeennnnt boy.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 24, 2012, 03:17:34 PM
"Made"?  What does one have to do to become "made" in his world?

eta:  Wait.  That's pic's been 'shopped.   ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 24, 2012, 03:51:36 PM

Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKaJoEyYXyI

@:42 The courtyard of the Martin's community.

@3:52 The gates to Zimmerman's community, Retreat at Twin Lakes.


Question: How was Trayvon going to cut through gated community in order to get home?

ETA:
A witness believes the Trayvon Martin shooting "wasn't self defense."

Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cWwUAbbWnk&feature=related

Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: AlanS on March 24, 2012, 07:56:18 PM
If we're fated to dance, then let's boogie.

No lessons needed. ::devil::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 08:26:53 PM
Quote
SANFORD — Members of the New Black Panther Party are offering a $10,000 reward for the "capture" of George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who shot Trayvon Martin.

New Black Panther leader Mikhail Muhammad announced the reward during a protest in Sanford Saturday. And when asked whether he was inciting violence, Muhammad replied defiantly: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

The bounty announcement came moments after members of the group called for the mobilization of 10,000 black men to capture Zimmerman, who shot Trayvon in a gated Sanford community on Feb. 26.

Muhammad said members of his group would search for Zimmerman themselves in Maitland — where the 28-year old worked before the shooting, employees there told the Orlando Sentinel. He declined to say when the group would begin their search.

LINK (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-new-black-panthers-protest-20120324,0,1231157.story)

Attorney General Eric Holder had no comment.

I can almost guarantee that there will be more bloodshed before this is finished. And that appears to be "the plan."
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 24, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
Quote
The bounty announcement came moments after members of the group called for the mobilization of 10,000 black men to capture Zimmerman, who shot Trayvon in a gated Sanford community on Feb. 26.

Remind me to check inventory on .223 rounds. I think I'm a little shy of 10k but it sounds like a worthwhile investment....
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 24, 2012, 09:38:23 PM
Is it illegal for a private citizen to offer a bounty for the "capture" of another private citizen? That seems to me to be inciting kidnapping.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 09:55:52 PM
Is it illegal for a private citizen to offer a bounty for the "capture" of another private citizen? That seems to me to be inciting kidnapping.

Well, of course it is.

But don't worry...Holder and O'Bongo are at the controls.

Nothing to worry about. Move along.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 24, 2012, 09:58:13 PM
  Good idea to piss off the red necks down here.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 24, 2012, 10:41:32 PM
Is it illegal for a private citizen to offer a bounty for the "capture" of another private citizen? That seems to me to be inciting kidnapping.

Generally speaking I would think so but what about bail-bondsmen? Don't they put a bounty on jumpers?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 11:07:33 PM
Is it illegal for a private citizen to offer a bounty for the "capture" of another private citizen? That seems to me to be inciting kidnapping.

Generally speaking I would think so but what about bail-bondsmen? Don't they put a bounty on jumpers?

Not a legal beagle by any stretch of the imagination but I am under the impression that a bounty hunter is an officer of the court. The jumper by either posting his own bond/bail or authorizing a third party to do so is in essence putting the bounty on his own head by promising not to run. When he does run he is essentially breaking a court order and more or less sets a bounty hunter on himself.

What we are seeing here with the black panther thugs is nothing more than vigilantism. It's illegal. The O'Bongo administration (which includes the Holder Justice Department) by not immediately and forcefully stomping on this is giving its tacit approval...that is approval by taking no action.

We will see within the next few days whether or not this tacit approval will continue.

There are a few things that have to happen. Talk is cheap. If the black panther thugs actually take some kind of action, especially against Zimmerman or one of his family members, then all bets are off.  Holder will have to sh*t or git. If he does nothing in the face of what can only be described as racially motivated crimes en masse then he will have to be impeached. Immediately.

For right now though, a message has been sent. That message was received resulting in the "wanted dead or alive" posters and now the "bounty." Another message is being sent in the form of continued silence from the administration. So the only thing we are now waiting on is what the next action will be to the latest message.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 24, 2012, 11:22:03 PM
  Good idea to piss off the red necks down here.

Quote
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,5126.msg56217.html#msg56217
*I can guarantee you that the South will not be fooled into voting for O'Bongo. They will crawl naked across broken glass to vote for anybody other than President Zero. They hate him. I mean they really, really hate him. They hate him with a visceral passion that is not unlike the intensity of the core of the sun. Trust me...whoever has the Republican nomination will not have to even campaign in the South. It's a done deal.
   

JF, you don't need to concern yourself about the Redneck's getting  PO'd.


*Heh, I looked through my favorite magazines for this quote; should have known it was right here, right here all along.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Are you implying that I am a redneck, Charles?

I can assure you that although I originate from the South (and therefore am thoroughly familiar with its idiosyncrasies), I am not of the South.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 24, 2012, 11:37:38 PM

I was affirming that JF had no worries about the over all consuming feeling in the South and your descriptive is the best I've read.

I'm not qualified to call one Redneck, I've never, well only on business, crossed the Sabine.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 24, 2012, 11:43:18 PM
Glad we are clear on that.

I went to school with enough of them. Got beaten up by some. Beat some up. I hated my public school years.

But it gives me a certain perspective. And I stand by what I said.

Time will tell if O'Bongo allows things in FL to completely spiral out of control but I actually feel sorry for an army of black panthers who think they can go into the South...even FL...and go huntin' for whitey. It will be an absolute mess.

Which, if he allows it to happen, would be the desired outcome.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 25, 2012, 09:15:36 AM
Glad we are clear on that.

I went to school with enough of them. Got beaten up by some. Beat some up. I hated my public school years.

But it gives me a certain perspective. And I stand by what I said.

Time will tell if O'Bongo allows things in FL to completely spiral out of control but I actually feel sorry for an army of black panthers who think they can go into the South...even FL...and go huntin' for whitey. It will be an absolute mess.

Which, if he allows it to happen, would be the desired outcome.



 Just to be clear I'm talking about the people that Southerners call red necks. The real backwoods types that are all too happy to get out and bust heads just cause it's Friday night. All you need to do is give them focus on a bunch of Panthers starting crap. The Panthers may way up a sleeping part of the population that they may not want to.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on March 25, 2012, 09:33:53 AM
Welcome to Tennessee. Patron state of shooting stuff.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on March 25, 2012, 10:58:35 AM
Welcome to Tennessee. Patron state of shooting stuff.

It's true.

(http://cs.dogpile.com/ClickHandler.ashx?ru=http%3a%2f%2fstupidbeliefs.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2010%2f09%2fredneck.jpg&du=stupidbeliefs.com&ld=20120325&ap=9&app=1&c=info.dogpl&s=dogpile&coi=372380&cop=main-title&euip=38.100.146.125&npp=9&p=0&pp=0&pvaid=0751c81435e245208dc85d90c873dca3&sid=1830193568.1508806235806.1332690763&vid=1830193568.1508806235806.1332200668.7&fcoi=417&fcop=topnav&fpid=2&ep=9&mid=9&hash=35BAB0C7B8FF6F05EB10DBCACE9929BA)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 25, 2012, 11:08:15 AM
As I said...I grew up amongst them. I went to school with them. I know them quite well.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 25, 2012, 03:57:02 PM
As I said...I grew up amongst them. I went to school with them. I know them quite well.


 Would you do anything to piss them off?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 25, 2012, 03:59:35 PM
As I said...I grew up amongst them. I went to school with them. I know them quite well.


 Would you do anything to piss them off?

Sometimes, it don't take nothin to set us off. Sometimes a head jus needs some bustin.

Can I git a witness, Trap?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 25, 2012, 04:17:57 PM
As I said...I grew up amongst them. I went to school with them. I know them quite well.


 Would you do anything to piss them off?

Sometimes, it don't take nothin to set us off. Sometimes a head jus needs some bustin.

Can I git a witness, Trap?

 Would you call the Panthers in you home turf a reason?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 25, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
As I said...I grew up amongst them. I went to school with them. I know them quite well.


 Would you do anything to piss them off?

Sometimes, it don't take nothin to set us off. Sometimes a head jus needs some bustin.

Can I git a witness, Trap?

It was absolutely inexplicable. There would be no alcohol or drugs or anything and they would just go off. As I said, I got beaten and I did some beating. Stupid. I hated high school with a passion.

If it wasn't the rednecks (they were more frequently called "kickers" in Houston due to the CW radio station KIKK) it was the stupid ass football players. They wouldn't actually get into fights (they didn't want that kind of trouble and jeopardize their eligibility to play) but would rather just push people around and/or slug them with the knowledge that they were too big to get challenged for it.

Of course after high school they all found out that their BS wasn't acceptable in college or the real world so they really got their heads messed with. Especially the jocks who were no longer the center of attention after high school.

Did I say that I really hated high school?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 25, 2012, 04:50:53 PM
But, yeah, for the true redneck, anything at all will set them off. If an army of black panthers decided that they were going to invade FL and try and capture anybody it would be a rallying cry for more than a few good ole' boys.

You know, I remember once seeing an actual KKK meeting hall in south Houston. Not my stomping grounds and I was just passing through but growing up in Houston in the seventies I can honestly say that I never, ever saw any of the overt racism stuff that the South was infamous for. I never saw any cross burnings or lynchings or anything. Now on the other hand my school was virtually free of black students...we probably had a half a dozen or less in a class of a thousand students. So maybe if we had more black students it would have been something I would have seen. But I didn't because it wasn't there. Not in my neck of the woods.

But we had rednecks ('cause it was rural at that time) and they were pretty much total assholes. I mean, they would beat up anyone (including each other) for no particular reason at all. Totally inexplicable.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 25, 2012, 07:02:11 PM
But, yeah, for the true redneck, anything at all will set them off. If an army of black panthers decided that they were going to invade FL and try and capture anybody it would be a rallying cry for more than a few good ole' boys.

You know, I remember once seeing an actual KKK meeting hall in south Houston. Not my stomping grounds and I was just passing through but growing up in Houston in the seventies I can honestly say that I never, ever saw any of the overt racism stuff that the South was infamous for. I never saw any cross burnings or lynchings or anything. Now on the other hand my school was virtually free of black students...we probably had a half a dozen or less in a class of a thousand students. So maybe if we had more black students it would have been something I would have seen. But I didn't because it wasn't there. Not in my neck of the woods.

But we had rednecks ('cause it was rural at that time) and they were pretty much total assholes. I mean, they would beat up anyone (including each other) for no particular reason at all. Totally inexplicable.


 Down here I'm glad to report that they've limited themselves to fighting on days that end with D-A-Y other than that were good.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 25, 2012, 08:23:01 PM

Link (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/25/santorum-zimmerman-has-a-very-sick-mind-motive-a-malicious-one/)


On “Face the Nation” Sunday on CBS, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum explained that his view of the Trayvon Martin shooting...

...

“Obviously, in my opinion, someone … has a very sick mind who would pursue someone like this. This is clearly a heinous act. You know, there are a lot of people who have a lot of distorted views of reality. It’s a tragic, tragic case.”
...
“All I can say is that, again, there are a lot of people who have very perverted views of reality and obviously have, as we see, people who do horrible things for seemingly senseless reasons,” Santorum said.

 RC A'ol genius. 
Not with my vote, Rick.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 25, 2012, 08:36:38 PM
Ah, fer crissake.  He doesn't know nuthin 'bout nuthin in this case.  Which ethnic bandwagon is he looking to hop on here?

*sigh* 

If I didn't have faith, I'd think we were FOOKIN DOOMED.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on March 25, 2012, 09:03:40 PM
Glad that he's determined it to be a heinous act when no one, repeat no one, even knows what happened. There's no offering they won't make at the altar of Political Correctness.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 25, 2012, 09:16:57 PM
   
 We're in for four years of the series "Jackass".

We really need to have an open convention.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 25, 2012, 10:16:22 PM
Ah, fer crissake.  He doesn't know nuthin 'bout nuthin in this case.  Which ethnic bandwagon is he looking to hop on here?

*sigh* 

If I didn't have faith, I'd think we were FOOKIN DOOMED.

 All he had to say was I don't have all the facts other than my son doesn't look like him.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 25, 2012, 10:29:39 PM
Check it out before it disappears (http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer)

Was Trayvon Martin a Drug Dealer?

This one was on his wrist, apparently of his girlfriend’s mother’s name.  (images follow)


@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA IMA MISS YU TILL I DIE DOG I KNOW YU WHOOPED HIS ASS DOE.. CUZ I PRAY GOD HELP ME AND WATCH YU LOVE YOU CUZZ REST ETERNALLY.



Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 25, 2012, 11:57:47 PM

Zimmerman ... and his wife mentored for two black children for free.  (http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-attorney-friend-speak-trayvon-martin-incident/story?id=15999256#.T3ADvdV2MrQ)

"George Zimmerman suffered a broken nose, and had an injury to the back of his head, he was attacked by Trayvon Martin on that evening," Sonner [Zimmerman's attorney] said.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on March 26, 2012, 08:04:58 AM
   
 We're in for four years of the series "Jackass".

I thought we were already there.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2012, 08:09:55 AM
Wow, nothing like the introduction of every race-baiting punk on the planet to push this story along, eh?

No problem with the thread title re-work Trap, this thing has a life of its own and the re-work looks justified.

I was thinking about the NBP bounty and I think people down there should offer up one of their own - offering a reward for the capture of any NBP caught in the act of trying to roust people.

And the more info that comes out regarding this not so innocent Trayvon (who would be Obama's son) the more difficult it is going to be for a jury to convict Zimmerman.

This story is not going to go away.

PS-Alan, It'll be "Jackass II"!

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 08:59:17 AM
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/Zimmerman_Martin.jpg)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 26, 2012, 09:05:24 AM
Were y'all aware that the media has been sitting on a live-interview with the witness who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, punching him, for about 25 days?  A Florida TV station finally played it Friday night.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on March 26, 2012, 09:23:08 AM
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/Zimmerman_Martin.jpg)

Already on my facebook page.  This one deserves to go viral.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 09:25:24 AM
Only quibble I have with that photo is labeling Martin a "victim". We simply don't know that yet.

God, these race-pimps know how to play a hand.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on March 26, 2012, 09:44:02 AM
Were y'all aware that the media has been sitting on a live-interview with the witness who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, punching him, for about 25 days?  A Florida TV station finally played it Friday night.

I didn't know that, but color me not-even-remotely-surprised.  The LA Times is sitting on a recording of one of Duh Won's private fundraiser speeches from a few years ago, at this point I can't even remember what it's said to contain, but they have obediently refused to share it with anyone because they know it would be damaging to him.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/zimmermanshirt.jpg)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832)

It would be more accurate to amend it to "...Hispanic Pussy Ass Cracker", but regardless, you see this trash roll into your neighborhood sporting this crap, you can bet your bottom dollar you got an ignorant racist punk in your midst, treat accordingly.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 26, 2012, 12:03:53 PM
Open letter to AG Holder: (http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/open-letter-to-ag-holder-investigate-new-black-panthers-for-criminal-conspiracy)

Dear Mr. Attorney General,

I note the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice is investigating the Trayvon Martin shooting. ...

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241, “Conspiracy Against Rights”:

          This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure,                   oppress,    threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in
                the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the
                Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having
                exercised the same)…


Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on March 26, 2012, 12:05:29 PM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/zimmermanshirt.jpg)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832)

It would be more accurate to amend it to "...Hispanic Pussy Ass Cracker", but regardless, you see this trash roll into your neighborhood sporting this crap, you can bet your bottom dollar you got an ignorant racist punk in your midst, treat accordingly.


Wonder what would happen if shirts were printed which read Punk Ass ni**er.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2012, 12:06:51 PM
Right, CO.

But when the Obama Regime and Holder in particular read that, they actually see -

 This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons of non-color to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in  the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege for persons especially of color secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same)…
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2012, 12:08:27 PM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/zimmermanshirt.jpg)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832)

It would be more accurate to amend it to "...Hispanic Pussy Ass Cracker", but regardless, you see this trash roll into your neighborhood sporting this crap, you can bet your bottom dollar you got an ignorant racist punk in your midst, treat accordingly.


Wonder what would happen if shirts were printed which read Punk Ass ni**er.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2251855872/tt0112864 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2251855872/tt0112864)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on March 26, 2012, 02:59:34 PM
There's free s**t, then there's...

Well, not free s**t (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/trayvon-martin-trademarks-769123)

I guess I should be happy that the babymama has discovered capitalism.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 26, 2012, 03:01:52 PM
Good grief.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 03:04:28 PM
You can't make this sh*t up.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 26, 2012, 06:15:03 PM

Get a big shovel.

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Team Obama Trying To Capitalize On Trayvon Martin Shooting:
Tweets Out Link To Buy Official Hoodie Sweatshirt…
(http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/26/team-obama-trying-to-capitalize-on-trayvon-martin-shooting-tweets-out-link-to-buy-official-hoodie-sweatshirt/)

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Florida College Kicks Zimmerman Out Over Safety Fears… (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/26/florida-college-kicks-zimmerman-out-over-safety-fears/)
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SANFORD, Fla. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html) – Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin was suspended from school because he was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it, the boy’s family attorney has confirmed.


Wonder if this was the first time the school had a problem with Trayvon's comportment?


Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on March 26, 2012, 07:39:14 PM

Get a big shovel.

Quote
Team Obama Trying To Capitalize On Trayvon Martin Shooting:
Tweets Out Link To Buy Official Hoodie Sweatshirt…
(http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/26/team-obama-trying-to-capitalize-on-trayvon-martin-shooting-tweets-out-link-to-buy-official-hoodie-sweatshirt/)

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Florida College Kicks Zimmerman Out Over Safety Fears… (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/26/florida-college-kicks-zimmerman-out-over-safety-fears/)
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SANFORD, Fla. (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html) – Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin was suspended from school because he was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it, the boy’s family attorney has confirmed.


Wonder if this was the first time the school had a problem with Trayvon's comportment?




As usual, the comments on the obama hoodie are priceless......
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 26, 2012, 07:49:12 PM

I went over to Florida* and drove around the community.  The gated community wall that
encircles the community is brick and only a five or six foot tall.  How safe is that? Brick walls and wrought iron gates really don't indicate private property do they?  I mean a five or six foot brick wall and wrought iron gates at the entrances, what's that, no step for a jumper.  Out here they have eight foot chain link topped with razor wire.
 
*Google > Maps > 1500 Retreat View Circle, Sanford, FL > drag the little man down to the street



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[blockquote]Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html)
Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend. [/blockquote]


HT: AoSHQ (http://minx.cc/?post=327850)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 08:02:12 PM
When you copy and paste the link from Charles' "Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin" into facebook, the link displays as "Thousands expected at Trayvon Martin rally in Sanford"

The lying media is lying. Color me shocked.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 26, 2012, 08:10:42 PM
When you copy and paste the link from Charles' "Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin" into facebook, the link displays as "Thousands expected at Trayvon Martin rally in Sanford"

The lying media is lying. Color me shocked.


  The MSM is getting ready for a long hot summer.(need more ammo)
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 08:30:39 PM
I just wanted to thank those who went to RedState to recommend my latest diary post, crossposted in this thread. It has moved up their recommended list to the number 1 spot, with 125 facebook "likes", and 33 re-tweets.

It does seem that we've had an uptick in traffic overall for the past few days since the diary was published, and we have a couple new members. I'm not sure if there is tangible traffic value in promoting diaries over there or not, but I guess it can't hurt!
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: Pandora on March 26, 2012, 08:36:34 PM
I just wanted to thank those who went to RedState to recommend my latest diary post, crossposted in this thread. It has moved up their recommended list to the number 1 spot, with 125 facebook "likes", and 33 re-tweets.

It does seem that we've had an uptick in traffic overall for the past few days since the diary was published, and we have a couple new members. I'm not sure if there is tangible traffic value in promoting diaries over there or not, but I guess it can't hurt!

You did a fine job, and you're a good writer, IDP.
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
I just wanted to thank those who went to RedState to recommend my latest diary post, crossposted in this thread. It has moved up their recommended list to the number 1 spot, with 125 facebook "likes", and 33 re-tweets.

It does seem that we've had an uptick in traffic overall for the past few days since the diary was published, and we have a couple new members. I'm not sure if there is tangible traffic value in promoting diaries over there or not, but I guess it can't hurt!

You did a fine job, and you're a good writer, IDP.

Thanks Pan. I wish I was a REALLY good writer. I enjoy it, sometimes a lot, but I've never had any college level composition that would put me in a position to pursue it for real.
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: Pandora on March 26, 2012, 08:54:37 PM
I just wanted to thank those who went to RedState to recommend my latest diary post, crossposted in this thread. It has moved up their recommended list to the number 1 spot, with 125 facebook "likes", and 33 re-tweets.

It does seem that we've had an uptick in traffic overall for the past few days since the diary was published, and we have a couple new members. I'm not sure if there is tangible traffic value in promoting diaries over there or not, but I guess it can't hurt!

You did a fine job, and you're a good writer, IDP.

Thanks Pan. I wish I was a REALLY good writer. I enjoy it, sometimes a lot, but I've never had any college level composition that would put me in a position to pursue it for real.

Hunh?  What is that, exactly?
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 08:56:07 PM
I just wanted to thank those who went to RedState to recommend my latest diary post, crossposted in this thread. It has moved up their recommended list to the number 1 spot, with 125 facebook "likes", and 33 re-tweets.

It does seem that we've had an uptick in traffic overall for the past few days since the diary was published, and we have a couple new members. I'm not sure if there is tangible traffic value in promoting diaries over there or not, but I guess it can't hurt!

You did a fine job, and you're a good writer, IDP.

Thanks Pan. I wish I was a REALLY good writer. I enjoy it, sometimes a lot, but I've never had any college level composition that would put me in a position to pursue it for real.

Hunh?  What is that, exactly?

I think it's when smowt peopow teach you how to write like a Leftist.

You don't need no smowt peopow messing with yow hed; you pwenty smowt wizzute it.

According to writers I've read on the subject of writing, writing really well requires writing, writing and more writing, honing your craft, practice.

I have no idea what happened with the tags.  I'm so tired I can't think straight at this point.
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: Glock32 on March 26, 2012, 09:37:48 PM
I've had that college composition, required of all freshmen. It's mostly horsesh*t. I placed out of the first semester, but had to take the second part (that part was mandatory regardless of your placement score).

I wouldn't say any of it teaches you to be a better writer in the general sense. It does teach you to be a better writer in the formal, academic sense. For the most part it's a replacement for the rhetorical fundamentals that people once upon a time mastered before they graduated from high school.
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 10:06:50 PM
I just wanted to thank those who went to RedState to recommend my latest diary post, crossposted in this thread. It has moved up their recommended list to the number 1 spot, with 125 facebook "likes", and 33 re-tweets.

It does seem that we've had an uptick in traffic overall for the past few days since the diary was published, and we have a couple new members. I'm not sure if there is tangible traffic value in promoting diaries over there or not, but I guess it can't hurt!

You did a fine job, and you're a good writer, IDP.

Thanks Pan. I wish I was a REALLY good writer. I enjoy it, sometimes a lot, but I've never had any college level composition that would put me in a position to pursue it for real.

Hunh?  What is that, exactly?

I think it's when smowt peopow teach you how to write like a Leftist.

You don't need no smowt peopow messing with yow hed; you pwenty smowt wizzute it.

According to writers I've read on the subject of writing, writing really well requires writing, writing and more writing, honing your craft, practice.

I have no idea what happened with the tags.  I'm so tired I can't think straight at this point.

LOL! You accidentally edited my post instead of quoting it! Sleeeeeeeep Pandoooooorrraaaaaa......
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
...It does teach you to be a better writer in the formal, academic sense....

That's pretty much what I was referring to. I enjoy writing enough that I'd love to make a living at it. Creative type writing, not journotard stuff. But my lack of that formal academic knowledge is apparent to me when I compare my stuff to those I consider good writers. So it's just a hobby for me.

BTW, I think you are an excellent writer Glock. Your thoughts are always concise and well laid out.
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 26, 2012, 10:13:48 PM
...It does teach you to be a better writer in the formal, academic sense....

That's pretty much what I was referring to. I enjoy writing enough that I'd love to make a living at it. Creative type writing, not journotard stuff. But my lack of that formal academic knowledge is apparent to me when I compare my stuff to those I consider good writers. So it's just a hobby for me.

BTW, I think you are an excellent writer Glock. Your thoughts are always concise and well laid out.

Agreed. I on the other hand, always wanted to write for Mad Magazine.  ;D
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: warpmine on March 26, 2012, 10:15:18 PM
IDP wrote "
Thanks Pan. I wish I was a REALLY good writer. I enjoy it, sometimes a lot, but I've never had any college level composition that would put me in a position to pursue it for real."

Neither have the so called journalists. ::laughonfloor:: I can think of plenty more that write in a horrible manner. One of them was so bad he had to have his book Dreams from My Father ghost written by Bill Ayers. ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: warpmine on March 26, 2012, 10:18:03 PM
...It does teach you to be a better writer in the formal, academic sense....

That's pretty much what I was referring to. I enjoy writing enough that I'd love to make a living at it. Creative type writing, not journotard stuff. But my lack of that formal academic knowledge is apparent to me when I compare my stuff to those I consider good writers. So it's just a hobby for me.

BTW, I think you are an excellent writer Glock. Your thoughts are always concise and well laid out.
Writing isn't everything you know....being of clear mind able to convey precisely one's thoughts during a debate/conversation is of equal value and I ought to know, I'm horrible at it. ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Boy Burned in Racial Attack (But doesn't look like Obama's son, so nevermind)
Post by: Pandora on March 26, 2012, 10:33:25 PM
...It does teach you to be a better writer in the formal, academic sense....

That's pretty much what I was referring to. I enjoy writing enough that I'd love to make a living at it. Creative type writing, not journotard stuff. But my lack of that formal academic knowledge is apparent to me when I compare my stuff to those I consider good writers. So it's just a hobby for me.

BTW, I think you are an excellent writer Glock. Your thoughts are always concise and well laid out.
Writing isn't everything you know....being of clear mind able to convey precisely one's thoughts during a debate/conversation is of equal value and I ought to know, I'm horrible at it. ::whatgives::

That's very true.  Er, referring to the first part of what you wrote, not the latter.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on March 26, 2012, 11:24:35 PM
...It does teach you to be a better writer in the formal, academic sense....

That's pretty much what I was referring to. I enjoy writing enough that I'd love to make a living at it. Creative type writing, not journotard stuff. But my lack of that formal academic knowledge is apparent to me when I compare my stuff to those I consider good writers. So it's just a hobby for me.

BTW, I think you are an excellent writer Glock. Your thoughts are always concise and well laid out.

Why thank you.   ::curtsy4::

I would say the Internet has influenced my style as much or more than any formal schooling. I used to sling words with Leftist scum on forums all the time, and was always looking for clever ways to tell them exactly what I thought of them. One lasting effect on my writing style is that I'm prone to get long winded because I'm semi-obsessed with the idea of "prebuttal". I used to delight in making bombing runs on their threads and dismantling their predictable retorts before they could respond. Now for the sake of my sanity I avoid concentrations of Leftist garbage both in the real and the virtual worlds. It's not "fun" anymore, not since the dynamic changed. It's no longer a dynamic of our position vs. their position because, as ludicrous as their positions are, the existential threat they pose has suddenly crystallized in the current regime.

I don't care about debating them, I care about defeating them. As Breitbart said, "War."
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 26, 2012, 11:25:57 PM
Oh, yeah.

"WAR".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2012, 11:30:22 PM
I'm on the exact same page Glock. I used to get my jollies sharpening my rhetorical skills against Leftists. Now I just want them gone. I'll still smack one down when the opportunity presents itself, but it doesn't bring me any satisfaction. Only disgust.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 26, 2012, 11:38:56 PM
WAR

As a reminder, (http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/03/sick-obama-campaign-uses-trayvons-death.html)...

The neighborhood where Zimmerman was helping to patrol as part of a local watch program had suffered eleven (11) break-ins in recent weeks.


ETA: From the link: Little Trayvon was 6'3" tall.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 27, 2012, 02:48:41 AM
And now, a palate cleanser...sort of...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N3p8EmDBZYs/T285XT0WHzI/AAAAAAAAEPs/O4mhyqEEUgs/s640/Hot-Topic.jpg)

LINK (http://hopenchangecartoons.blogspot.com/)

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Regarding the shooting, Obama bemoaned the fact that "if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," and then said that all Americans need to do some "soul searching" about the incident. But why? What do the rest of us have to do with any of this? The direct implication is that Americans are, at heart, dangerous ugly-minded racists who need to work up at least a little residual White Guilt by Election Day.



Rather than belabor our point (and trust me, we could) let's cut straight to the bottom line. Nobody's guilt or innocence should be judged by their skin color or "who they look like," even if the president of the United States thinks otherwise. Anything else would be the most despicable kind of racism.

But that is exactly Barack Obama's goal in injecting himself into this sad story. Having failed dismally as the president of "Hope," he is now redefining himself for 2012 as the candidate of "Hate." He - and his willing media accomplices - have already invented and fomented a "War on the Middle Class," and a "War on Women." Next on his checklist, to nobody's surprise, was to gin up a "War on Blacks" in hopes that any bloodletting can be turned into votes.

Is this the country we want - with American pitted against American for the benefit of a venal politician who must distract us from our real problems, his real failures, and his real agenda?

Because that is the question which actually demands soul searching from Americans of every race.

Oh and, hey, interesting self help book (http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Sutra-Illustrated-States-Ecstasy/dp/1466481846/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323231342&sr=8-1) available for instant download to a Kindle.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 27, 2012, 03:33:20 AM
If this has already been posted then I apologize in advance. There's just too damned many posts about this topic now.

Also I will take this opportunity to publicly apologize for ever thinking that the Daily Caller would suck just because it was started by Tucker Carlson. I had little to zero respect for Carlson because he was the "house conservative" at one time for MSNBC before they had a purity purge. I figured that there wasn't anything Carlson could possibly be involved with that would be of any worth or value. I was wrong and I apologize for it.

The DC has posted the last two month's worth of Trayvon Martin's tweets. They do not indicate criminal (theft) activity but they do paint a picture that is hardly flattering. Lots of drug references and lots of misogynistic stuff. Here is the link. (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/the-daily-caller-obtains-trayvon-martins-tweets/)

In a commentary (http://rightwingnews.com/10-random-140-character-thoughts/20-trayvon-martins-tweets-that-stand-out-language-warning/) from Right Wing News they list the best tweets that the little angel posted. And, for what it's worth, he went by the handle of "No_Limit_Nigga." Yeah, cute as all get out, I know.


Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 27, 2012, 06:55:09 AM
Here's the thing about all these revelations about Martin.

First, the narrative has been created, so now the truth must push against it. Division will be the result, as was always the goal. Mission accomplished.

But aside from that, reading his nigga tweets as "No_Limit_Nigga", glorifying the nigga-thug lifestyle - that speaks volumes to us, but to the culture at large, that is exactly how young Black men are supposed to act. He achieved the standard set for him by the Leftist culture and the Affkin-Mehkin community. There will be no questioning from the Left as to whether his lifestyle contributed to his death. None.

So we're at square one.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 07:39:50 AM
And all the No_Limit_Nigga's are exploiting this for all they can get, regardless of how big a low-life despicable scumbag little No_Limit_Nigga was!

And here's a high-profile one!

Director Spike Lee apparently retweeted the home address of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot Florida teen Trayvon Martin.

Two messages were posted to Lee’s official Twitter account, one Friday and one Saturday, with a street address and the words “EVERYBODY REPOST THIS.” Both messages were still visible on Lee’s account Sunday morning. Lee has tweeted numerous times about Martin’s death.

(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Spike-Lee.jpg)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/spike-lee-retweets-george-zimmermans-home-address/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/spike-lee-retweets-george-zimmermans-home-address/)

I think we need to tweet (I don't tweet, maybe somebody here does) Spike Lee's home addresses as well!  All in the spirit of understanding, of course!   ;)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 27, 2012, 08:05:09 AM
H/T IMAO

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N3p8EmDBZYs/T285XT0WHzI/AAAAAAAAEPs/O4mhyqEEUgs/s640/Hot-Topic.jpg) (http://hopenchangecartoons.blogspot.com/2012/03/hot-topic.html)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 08:09:10 AM
Ohh, man, no pulled punches there!  That is so scary true!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on March 27, 2012, 08:22:30 AM
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Also I will take this opportunity to publicly apologize for ever thinking that the Daily Caller would suck just because it was started by Tucker Carlson.

They've been on quite the roll lately, doing original stuff.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 08:28:07 AM
A lone voice of reason...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/)

...but at least he is speaking out?  Where's the rest of the community?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 27, 2012, 08:42:50 AM
H/T IMAO

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N3p8EmDBZYs/T285XT0WHzI/AAAAAAAAEPs/O4mhyqEEUgs/s640/Hot-Topic.jpg) (http://hopenchangecartoons.blogspot.com/2012/03/hot-topic.html)



I actually posted this last night but I see the link was bad. Fixed it.

Can't see that one enough so don't worry about the re-post.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 27, 2012, 08:57:21 AM
It's been handled (publishing the thugs address) but the act doesn't hold the same meaning because none of us would be inclined to go over to his house and terrorize him like he would white people.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 09:10:15 AM
It's been handled (publishing the thugs address) but the act doesn't hold the same meaning because none of us would be inclined to go over to his house and terrorize him like he would white people.

But we could send Spike Lee and his ilk a friendly note reminding them the errors they are making, eh?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 27, 2012, 09:41:27 AM
It is unconscionable that Spike Lee or the Black Panthers who issued the threats against George Zimmerman have not been arrested.

Where are the damned Republicans calling for the justice department to do its job?

I'm so sick of those frikking eunuchs. Most of them turn my stomach more than the Leftists do. Sniveling cowards. I think eventually they will realize there is no way they can please the people who elected them and still be the political cowards that they are, and they will join in solidarity with the Left against the American people.

Boehner? McConnell? Cantor? They're going to stand in the gap against this regime as its agenda to destroy the country moves forward? Don't make me frikking laugh.

So have at it Panthers. You've got carte blanche as far as the government is concerned. But don't think that will make it easy.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: amperfectunion on March 27, 2012, 10:31:35 AM
Wanna read 152 pages of tweets from Trayvon Martin?  Here ya go!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/the-daily-caller-obtains-trayvon-martins-tweets/#ixzz1qGztV3LT (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/the-daily-caller-obtains-trayvon-martins-tweets/#ixzz1qGztV3LT)

(Warning - severely profane language)

Wanna read some REAL journalism about what he was REALLY like?  Here ya go!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html)

This kid was not who we were told he was.  That DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS SHOT FOR A LEGITIMATE REASON.  It means people are lying about him...so what else are they lying about?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Judging from the most vocal elements of this community, it appears young banger Trayvon is pretty representative of said community

Please let me know if I am to think something different, this is the 21st century after all, and in Obamaland we know we are not allowed to think for ourselves!

/
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 27, 2012, 11:28:10 AM
Quote
This kid was not who we were told he was.  That DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS SHOT FOR A LEGITIMATE REASON.  It means people are lying about him...so what else are they lying about?

Anything they can that will advance "the narrative".

The crisis-mongers and race-hustlers ALWAYS make the same mistake in that they present "the victim" in the best possible light, attempting to hide the warts; to include truthful but unpleasant information is mischaracterized as "blaming the victim".

This is THE reason why "the narrative" is so predictable and why it's just a matter of time before Baby Momma turns up with "mah baby din do nuffin, he's a good boy".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
Look what the First Racist is up to!

(http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/2135/03/2135_1332856300.png)

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104707&article=9954327&sa=U&ei=7NdxT-jNDOfu0gHp7JnaAQ&ved=0CCIQqQIwAA&usg=AFQjCNFB2yrf6KGVLmVFv7gOZ_817Dw1AA (http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104707&article=9954327&sa=U&ei=7NdxT-jNDOfu0gHp7JnaAQ&ved=0CCIQqQIwAA&usg=AFQjCNFB2yrf6KGVLmVFv7gOZ_817Dw1AA)

Sick mofo!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 27, 2012, 11:35:54 AM
I clicked on this thread just at the moment Rush started talking about the tastelessness of that hoodie.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
I see that crap lurking about, they better like being closely eyeballed!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on March 27, 2012, 01:31:09 PM
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_20232501/minneapolis-man-charged-killing-roseville-cabbie (http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_20232501/minneapolis-man-charged-killing-roseville-cabbie)

So, uh, anyone up for joining me in burning down our own homes, or flash mobbing a Walgreens?  I mean, black trash killing an unarmed white man is supposed to get me wanting to do those kind of things, right?  I wonder if William Harper's family has trademarked William Harper's name, yet. 

Hey, I have a great idea!  Maybe Paulson, Bachmann, and Kline can get together and parade William Harper's parents up to Capitol Hill?  Or maybe I just realize how much of a retard I look like just suggesting such things?   ::thinking::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on March 27, 2012, 02:15:58 PM
URL Redacted/localnews/ci_20232501/minneapolis-man-charged-killing-roseville-cabbie (http://URL Redacted/localnews/ci_20232501/minneapolis-man-charged-killing-roseville-cabbie)

So, uh, anyone up for joining me in burning down our own homes, or flash mobbing a Walgreens?  I mean, black trash killing an unarmed white man is supposed to get me wanting to do those kind of things, right?  I wonder if William Harper's family has trademarked William Harper's name, yet. 

Hey, I have a great idea!  Maybe Paulson, Bachmann, and Kline can get together and parade William Harper's parents up to Capitol Hill?  Or maybe I just realize how much of a retard I look like just suggesting such things?   ::thinking::



Huh....The national guard would be in the streets if whitey stormed Walgreens. The race hustlers and baiters are emboldened today. I wish this was just a silly juvenile phase in our nations history, which would pass, but sadly, it is not. It is liberalism run amoke, convincing mindless masses of people they are treated unfairly. All emotion and no reason.

Normally, this is the time i'd make a snide comment or joke of some sort, but my head hurts in bewilderment over the throngs of people who believe justice, fairness, equality, liberty, etc, are served by following the antics of liberals......antics which reach as high as the presidency. To put it mildly, this nation is off kilter, out of balance.

No, we don't storm walgreens....We just want to lead our lives in peace. Hopefully, our silent voices will be heard in November. If not, I honestly shudder at the thought of what it will take to get back on kilter.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on March 27, 2012, 03:40:26 PM
Funny viewing that picture of the protest or whatever they're calling it, I saw a sign that says "Don't judge me by the color of my skin" but isn't that what they're doing to poor Zimmerman and the rest of us. CRT says and does just that. The hypocrisy manifests itself in a most piculiar way, does it not?  

Then there's that little tidbit about his parents being divorced so somewhere, somebody dropped the parenting ball on this one. Why was he traveling in that gated community? As kids we avoided them to avoid the hassle.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 27, 2012, 04:05:13 PM

Yeah, it's got a brick wall around it, it's got big
wrought iron gates, it's p r i v a t e property.

In order to pass through he had to climb a wall.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 27, 2012, 07:12:02 PM

Yeah, it's got a brick wall around it, it's got big
wrought iron gates, it's p r i v a t e property.

In order to pass through he had to climb a wall.

   That is correct but unless the gate is maned it's just open to anyone to enter. All gated developments use the gates which is the reason most people bought in.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: benb61 on March 27, 2012, 08:51:04 PM
If Trayvon was not up to no good, why would he confront Zimmerman physically. 

If I was walking through a neighborhood and I noticed someone was following me, I'd turn and ask if there was something I could help that person with.  By making the confrontation it would declare to that person that I am not a threat, and would start a dialog. If that person became aggressive, I would become defensive and I definitely know how to defend myself. 

If I saw someone suspicious walking through my neighborhood I would shout out to them, from a reasonable distance, if there is something I could help them with.  If they would run, 911 would get an instant call.  If they would turn and start a conversation (benign) I would help them with whatever they needed, or even just make small talk till I felt they were not up to no good.  If they turned and became aggressive see above.

If someone is looking for trouble they are sure to find it. If someone is just on the way to or returning from a local 7-11 why would they be looking for trouble.  I guess I just think too logically for my own good.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 27, 2012, 09:05:47 PM
If Trayvon was not up to no good, why would he confront Zimmerman physically. 

If I was walking through a neighborhood and I noticed someone was following me, I'd turn and ask if there was something I could help that person with.  By making the confrontation it would declare to that person that I am not a threat, and would start a dialog. If that person became aggressive, I would become defensive and I definitely know how to defend myself. 

If I saw someone suspicious walking through my neighborhood I would shout out to them, from a reasonable distance, if there is something I could help them with.  If they would run, 911 would get an instant call.  If they would turn and start a conversation (benign) I would help them with whatever they needed, or even just make small talk till I felt they were not up to no good.  If they turned and became aggressive see above.

If someone is looking for trouble they are sure to find it. If someone is just on the way to or returning from a local 7-11 why would they be looking for trouble.  I guess I just think too logically for my own good.

Yah, because you're an adult, with good reasoning skills.

Martin was a 17 year-old with a gold "grill" and his "culture" does not encourage reason.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 27, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
If Trayvon was not up to no good, why would he confront Zimmerman physically. 

If I was walking through a neighborhood and I noticed someone was following me, I'd turn and ask if there was something I could help that person with.  By making the confrontation it would declare to that person that I am not a threat, and would start a dialog. If that person became aggressive, I would become defensive and I definitely know how to defend myself. 

If I saw someone suspicious walking through my neighborhood I would shout out to them, from a reasonable distance, if there is something I could help them with.  If they would run, 911 would get an instant call.  If they would turn and start a conversation (benign) I would help them with whatever they needed, or even just make small talk till I felt they were not up to no good.  If they turned and became aggressive see above.

If someone is looking for trouble they are sure to find it. If someone is just on the way to or returning from a local 7-11 why would they be looking for trouble.  I guess I just think too logically for my own good.

Yah, because you're an adult, with good reasoning skills.

Martin was a 17 year-old with a gold "grill" and his "culture" does not encourage reason.

Reason would dictate that he either planned on exiting the entrance he came in or through or over the gate or wall.  With him in the past being caught with women's jewelry in his backpack and eleven recent burglaries in the community reasons abound.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 27, 2012, 10:03:28 PM
Can't y'all just beat your breasts over the loss?  All the human potential, lost right down the drain of bad decision making; as bad, as wasteful as abortions, but more sorrowful, because these were full-born humans deliberately instructed in debased existing, unaware of a higher purpose.

At 17, her son already had a record of bad living, even if not strictly illegal, and all Treyvon's mother can consider now is that her son's "reputation" not be tarnished in death.  Lady Ma'am; he already did that himself in life, and where were you?  "Mah baby din do nuffin".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 27, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
  I started off feeling bad for this kid but as time has gon on I'm really taking a dislike to the whole mess around him. There are somewhere around 5 thousand murders a year in this country and all of a sudden his death is the most important thing on the planet.

  The death of any kid is a bad thing but his isn't any more sad than anybody elses.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 27, 2012, 10:25:54 PM
  I started off feeling bad for this kid but as time has gon on I'm really taking a dislike to the whole mess around him. There are somewhere around 5 thousand murders a year in this country and all of a sudden his death is the most important thing on the planet.

  The death of any kid is a bad thing but his isn't any more sad than anybody elses.

I dislike the speculation on either of the two parties. I'm not inclined to participate in it. My interest in the whole sordid thing is to watch the racist circus sideshow that is boiling up out of it. My bet is that it gets worse before it ever gets better...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
More Spike Lee fallout...Spike f**ked up!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891)

I hope these people are armed and cautious!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 27, 2012, 10:46:35 PM
More Spike Lee fallout...Spike f**ked up!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891)

I hope these people are armed and cautious!

I hope they lawyer up and request the presence of Mr. Lee in the nearest court of jurisdiction.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 27, 2012, 10:51:11 PM
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/Zimmerman_Martin.jpg)

For the record (in case this hasn't been posted already), the picture on the right is not of Trayvon Martin...at least not the one in question. This apparently made the news when Michelle Malkin's Twitchy site posted it and then had to apologize for it. LINK (http://twitchy.com/2012/03/25/why-teamdueprocess-is-important-for-justice/)

In related news, one of the chief thugs at Media Matters accused Drudge of putting that picture up...said all of the classy stuff that they are famous for...and then had to apologize to Drudge.  LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/27/media-matters-honcho-sorry-after-blasting-drudge-for-trayvon-photo/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: morphin1112 on March 28, 2012, 02:30:46 AM
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Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2012, 06:56:07 AM
More Spike Lee fallout...Spike f**ked up!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891)

I hope these people are armed and cautious!

I hope they lawyer up and request the presence of Mr. Lee in the nearest court of jurisdiction.


Yes, they should.  But I am worried about their safety, what with a bunch of hoodie-sporting wanna-be NBP's looking to cause mischief!  This is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater times 10!  And Spike should have to answer for this and any action taken against these people or their property!  Spike was inciting criminal behavior, period.  If that is not punished, then I have a lot of work to do!  And a DA with any sense would be all over that bastard!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on March 28, 2012, 08:07:25 AM
Quote
For the record (in case this hasn't been posted already), the picture on the right is not of Trayvon Martin...at least not the one in question. This apparently made the news when Michelle Malkin's Twitchy site posted it and then had to apologize for it.

Technically, no one said it was.  I saw it as just playing the game the media is playing, only the other way.  Splitting hairs, I know, and you can make the point with Mr. Gold Caps just as well.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 28, 2012, 11:12:19 AM

Ex Hoodulum, thug, founder of the Chicago chapter, Black Panther Party and Congressman, Bobby Rush had a melt down on the house floor as he donned a hoodie [to honor Trayvon] and recited the Bible. He was removed from the house floor.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2012, 11:28:10 AM

Ex Hoodulum, thug, founder of the Chicago chapter, Black Panther Party and Congressman, Bobby Rush had a melt down on the house floor as he donned a hoodie [to honor Trayvon] and recited the Bible. He was removed from the house floor.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For)



We're his pants at half mast too signaling his desire for prison sex? 

Shoulda been clubbed down like a baby seal!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 28, 2012, 11:31:22 AM
Oh, this Spike Lee story and the old couple he ratted out as being where "the Zimmerman" lived is amping up...Spike pulls his incidiary tweet but the bogus address keeps getting re-tweeted and now the old couple has been driven out of their home.

 "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" and an obscenity.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-27/news/os-trayvon-martin-wrong-zimmerman-20120327_1_tweets-heart-condition-twitter (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-27/news/os-trayvon-martin-wrong-zimmerman-20120327_1_tweets-heart-condition-twitter)

 ::cussing::  trash!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 28, 2012, 12:19:42 PM

Heeeeeeer's Bobby:

                                          Congressman Bobby Rush is kicked off House Floor for Wearing a "Hoodie" in Support of Trayvon Martin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDSwLfekNqk#ws)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2012, 12:45:32 PM
  What an ass!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Sectionhand on March 28, 2012, 01:52:58 PM

Heeeeeeer's Bobby:

                                          Congressman Bobby Rush is kicked off House Floor for Wearing a "Hoodie" in Support of Trayvon Martin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDSwLfekNqk#ws)

He's black  Chicago's answer to Ernest T. Bass . How that high school drop-out , army deserting , pot-head , jail-bird ever got into the house ... oh yeah ... I forgot . Chicago ! That clown's about as sharp as a sack of door knobs !
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on March 28, 2012, 02:14:21 PM

Heeeeeeer's Bobby:

                                          Congressman Bobby Rush is kicked off House Floor for Wearing a "Hoodie" in Support of Trayvon Martin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDSwLfekNqk#ws)

He's black  Chicago's answer to Ernest T. Bass . How that high school drop-out , army deserting , pot-head , jail-bird ever got into the house ... oh yeah ... I forgot . Chicago ! That clown's about as sharp as a sack of door knobs !

Blago must be thinking he got royally screwed when a guy like Bobby Rush is walking the House floor.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on March 28, 2012, 02:36:00 PM

Heeeeeeer's Bobby:

                                          Congressman Bobby Rush is kicked off House Floor for Wearing a "Hoodie" in Support of Trayvon Martin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDSwLfekNqk#ws)

Dude!  You forgot the grill.  Damn 80 year olds trying to be hip and can never quite pull it off.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 28, 2012, 03:59:40 PM
Maxine Waters, speaking on behalf of the CBC, had her say on CNN "interview" (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/28/dem-rep-maxine-waters-stiff-evidence-of-hate-crime-in-trayvon-martin-case/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 28, 2012, 04:34:10 PM

Ex Hoodulum, thug, founder of the Chicago chapter, Black Panther Party and Congressman, Bobby Rush had a melt down on the house floor as he donned a hoodie [to honor Trayvon] and recited the Bible. He was removed from the house floor.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For)



Michael "Milquetoast" Medved remarked on Bobby's blathering today and said that the speaker should apologize for to Rush for interrupting him.

!

(I'm not making this up and I'm not kidding)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 28, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/)

Frederica Wilson on Capitol Hill hearing and 'unconscionable' police handling of Trayvon Martin case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3do_LYSwI#)

And .....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman)

Quote
Michael Eric Dyson, professor of sociology at Georgetown University, said on MSNBC several days ago that Zimmerman should be “for his own safety, let’s just go to the ultimate extreme, for your safety, Mr. Zimmerman, because people may want to execute vigilante justice against you, we want to protect you, we want to put you in jail, we want to put you under cover of the law. Nothing is reasonable here to suggest that Mr. Zimmerman should continue to go free.”

To "protect" Mr. Zimmerman, The New Black Panthers should be put in jail.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2012, 04:47:11 PM
Maxine Waters, speaking on behalf of the CBC, had her say on CNN "interview" (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/28/dem-rep-maxine-waters-stiff-evidence-of-hate-crime-in-trayvon-martin-case/)

  She's such a bitch.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 28, 2012, 04:49:48 PM

Ex Hoodulum, thug, founder of the Chicago chapter, Black Panther Party and Congressman, Bobby Rush had a melt down on the house floor as he donned a hoodie [to honor Trayvon] and recited the Bible. He was removed from the house floor.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/28/Hoodie-Melt-Down-Thrown-Off-House-Floor-For)



Michael "Milquetoast" Medved remarked on Bobby's blathering today and said that the speaker should apologize for to Rush for interrupting him.

!

(I'm not making this up and I'm not kidding)

 ::bashing::

It's assholes like Medved who have encourage/d just this sort of thing, and the other two congressweasel nitwits fanning the racism-flames, instead of roundly condemning it from the start.  And I mean decades ago.

This is crazy-out-of-control now.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/)

Frederica Wilson on Capitol Hill hearing and 'unconscionable' police handling of Trayvon Martin case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3do_LYSwI#)

And .....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman)

Quote
Michael Eric Dyson, professor of sociology at Georgetown University, said on MSNBC several days ago that Zimmerman should be “for his own safety, let’s just go to the ultimate extreme, for your safety, Mr. Zimmerman, because people may want to execute vigilante justice against you, we want to protect you, we want to put you in jail, we want to put you under cover of the law. Nothing is reasonable here to suggest that Mr. Zimmerman should continue to go free.”

To "protect" Mr. Zimmerman, The New Black Panthers should be put in jail.


 Another country heard from.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on March 28, 2012, 05:12:49 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/)

Frederica Wilson on Capitol Hill hearing and 'unconscionable' police handling of Trayvon Martin case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3do_LYSwI#)

And .....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman)

Quote
Michael Eric Dyson, professor of sociology at Georgetown University, said on MSNBC several days ago that Zimmerman should be “for his own safety, let’s just go to the ultimate extreme, for your safety, Mr. Zimmerman, because people may want to execute vigilante justice against you, we want to protect you, we want to put you in jail, we want to put you under cover of the law. Nothing is reasonable here to suggest that Mr. Zimmerman should continue to go free.”

To "protect" Mr. Zimmerman, The New Black Panthers should be put in jail.

Let's see....stomp on his 4th amendment rights while ignoring the threats on his life. I couldn't watch the video......This is so embarrassing. For our countries safety, people like her should be put in jail.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: predator on March 28, 2012, 05:42:50 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/)

Frederica Wilson on Capitol Hill hearing and 'unconscionable' police handling of Trayvon Martin case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3do_LYSwI#)

And .....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman)

Quote
Michael Eric Dyson, professor of sociology at Georgetown University, said on MSNBC several days ago that Zimmerman should be “for his own safety, let’s just go to the ultimate extreme, for your safety, Mr. Zimmerman, because people may want to execute vigilante justice against you, we want to protect you, we want to put you in jail, we want to put you under cover of the law. Nothing is reasonable here to suggest that Mr. Zimmerman should continue to go free.”

To "protect" Mr. Zimmerman, The New Black Panthers should be put in jail.

Speaking of "unconscionable," appearing on TV in that get-up is about as unconscionable as one can get. Cowboy hat fashion has just taken a major hit.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on March 28, 2012, 06:50:01 PM
The reason people like Medved lash out at others who are on their (nominal) side of the aisle is because cowards cannot abide displays of fortitude in others. It's not enough for them to be cowards, they want everyone else to shut up too, because when some show a greater degree of fortitude it highlights the absence of it in the cowards.

It's sort of the same reason they (the E-GOP) won't call this regime out on its criminality. Once you've acknowledged a problem, it is then incumbent upon you to do something about it. You can no longer pretend you just weren't aware of it, or some other excuse. At that point failure to do something just means you're a coward and now everyone knows it. In their craven political calculus, it's far better to just not acknowledge the problem in the first place.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2012, 06:56:46 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/dem-lawmaker-wants-george-zimmerman-jailed-for-his-own-safety/)

Frederica Wilson on Capitol Hill hearing and 'unconscionable' police handling of Trayvon Martin case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3do_LYSwI#)

And .....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/28/Democratic-Congresswoman-Arrest-Zimmerman)

Quote
Michael Eric Dyson, professor of sociology at Georgetown University, said on MSNBC several days ago that Zimmerman should be “for his own safety, let’s just go to the ultimate extreme, for your safety, Mr. Zimmerman, because people may want to execute vigilante justice against you, we want to protect you, we want to put you in jail, we want to put you under cover of the law. Nothing is reasonable here to suggest that Mr. Zimmerman should continue to go free.”

To "protect" Mr. Zimmerman, The New Black Panthers should be put in jail.

Speaking of "unconscionable," appearing on TV in that get-up is about as unconscionable as one can get. Cowboy hat fashion has just taken a major hit.


 Does she also own a clown car? Anybody.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 28, 2012, 07:05:59 PM
I really don't care what she's wearing; I care what she's saying.  This ... person ... is a sitting US Congress member who has no idea what her oath means, nor does she even have passing acquaintance with the Constitution.  She belongs in a turd-world, banana-republic, not in the government in my country.  And the same goes for the entire membership of the Black f'n Caucus, particularly Maxine Waters.

I'm sorry I do not find anything amusing about her.  She's a fcking danger to my liberty.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 28, 2012, 08:07:27 PM
I really don't care what she's wearing; I care what she's saying.  This ... person ... is a sitting US Congress member who has no idea what her oath means, nor does she even have passing acquaintance with the Constitution.  She belongs in a turd-world, banana-republic, not in the government in my country.  And the same goes for the entire membership of the Black f'n Caucus, particularly Maxine Waters.

I'm sorry I do not find anything amusing about her.  She's a fcking danger to my liberty.

 She's no different than any other Black(yeah I went there)politician that wants a piece of this now while it's hot to show how black they are to their voters and how racist everybody else is. Think about it even if Zimmerman is innocent it won't happen till after their own elections are over and the squeezed every last drop out of this and killed an innocent mans reputation.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 28, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
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Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on March 28, 2012, 11:13:59 PM
I really don't care what she's wearing; I care what she's saying.  This ... person ... is a sitting US Congress member who has no idea what her oath means, nor does she even have passing acquaintance with the Constitution.  She belongs in a turd-world, banana-republic, not in the government in my country.  And the same goes for the entire membership of the Black f'n Caucus, particularly Maxine Waters.

I'm sorry I do not find anything amusing about her.  She's a fcking danger to my liberty.

 She's no different than any other Black(yeah I went there)politician that wants a piece of this now while it's hot to show how black they are to their voters and how racist everybody else is. Think about it even if Zimmerman is innocent it won't happen till after their own elections are over and the squeezed every last drop out of this and killed an innocent mans reputation.

What is it about black office holders? Black politicians? I feel no sorrow or remorse for a people so consumed by their color that all reason goes out the window.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 29, 2012, 07:41:49 AM
I really don't care what she's wearing; I care what she's saying.  This ... person ... is a sitting US Congress member who has no idea what her oath means, nor does she even have passing acquaintance with the Constitution.  She belongs in a turd-world, banana-republic, not in the government in my country.  And the same goes for the entire membership of the Black f'n Caucus, particularly Maxine Waters.

I'm sorry I do not find anything amusing about her.  She's a fcking danger to my liberty.

Domestic enemy, big time!

 ::rockets::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 29, 2012, 11:29:39 AM
http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/03/29/zimmermans-dad-trayvon-martin-told-my-son-he-was-going-to-die-now/ (http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/03/29/zimmermans-dad-trayvon-martin-told-my-son-he-was-going-to-die-now/)

More news that screws with the Leftnut/Democrat/MFM meme!

Keep supporting criminal trash Leftists...make that rope snap HARD!

 ;)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 29, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
And this check out!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-of-george-zimmerman-being-taken-in-for-questioning-surfaces/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-of-george-zimmerman-being-taken-in-for-questioning-surfaces/)

And this lying ass commie twit!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sheila-jackson-lee-speculates-that-george-zimmerman-broke-his-own-nose/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sheila-jackson-lee-speculates-that-george-zimmerman-broke-his-own-nose/)

Yeah, Sheila you dumbass, perhaps Martin shot himself too!

What a fracking tool!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: predator on March 29, 2012, 05:35:03 PM
The "hoodies" were out at the Univ. of Illinois. The self-serving, "I'm a victim, we're all victims" crap in this makes me want to gag  ::barf::. Fark these entitlement minded d-bags. In several parts of this vid, I believe I can hear laughter in the background, proving that some are there just because it's "the happenin' thing to do."

"What if a black man did dis?" They do. A lot. And they do it to their own kind about 90% of the time.

"Why no white folks won't sit by me on da bus?" Yeah, I bet that really breaks your heart.

http://www.news-gazette.com/multimedia/video/u-i-student-videos.html (http://www.news-gazette.com/multimedia/video/u-i-student-videos.html)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 29, 2012, 06:26:14 PM

Ignorant students do not understand nor do they appreciate the rule of law.
Shame on their parents and teachers.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 29, 2012, 09:36:31 PM
Some jokes just write themselves, others are al sharpton...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6zqCXwMXA
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on March 29, 2012, 09:55:44 PM
Resist we much, for all about the skillets it be.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 30, 2012, 02:51:33 AM
I am wondering what the fallout will be for Twitter. As I speak (and I am sure that most of you are already aware of this) there is a Twitter feed going with the tag "KillZimmerman." Apparently there must be nothing in the Twitter terms of service to prevent a member(s) from using it to threaten the life of a person and advocate for the killing of a person.

This is beyond shameful.

It is, should something happen to Mr. Zimmerman, as much like being an accessory to a crime as anything I can think of. Twitter is at the very least allowing its platform to be used to facilitate a crime. If Twitter were a person it could probably be charged with conspiracy.

Sure, I understand the freedom of speech but certainly this has to be one of those circumstances where the speech in question is not Constitutionally protected. What is different in a person advocating for and organizing others for the murder of another person and a software platform being harnessed (with the tacit approval of its owners and operators) for the same purpose?

Is there a "Kill Zimmerman" Facebook page yet? No? There is a "f**k Zimmerman" (http://www.facebook.com/pages/f**k-George-Zimmerman/231233370307307) Facebook page. There is an "Arrest George Zimmerman" (http://www.facebook.com/TryonMartin) Facebook page. These pages (from a brief scan of the oh so intelligent comments contained therein) are also being used as an incitement to violence and, at the very least, an encouragement toward inter-racial hatred.

Now let me see...

So-called conservative "hate speech" (which should be banned) directly led to the shooting of Rep. Gabriel Giffords and the killing of several others. In fact, the "hate speech" of Rush Limbaugh was so incredibly bad that it was somehow necessary to shut him up, destroy his livelihood by driving him from the airwaves. Glenn Beck had already been driven off of FNC because his "hate speech" was so horrible that he just had to go.

And yet, when we see real, documented-in-writing hate speech...speech that is suggesting, demanding and perhaps facilitating a felonious act, well, this speech is okay. It's protected. It's even cool and hip.

Meanwhile, President Zero says nothing. Does nothing.

We live in interesting times that are almost undoubtedly going to become much more interesting very, very soon.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on March 30, 2012, 08:25:26 AM
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We live in interesting times that are almost undoubtedly going to become much more interesting very, very soon.

We are living in Glenn Beck's wet dream. 

I'd prefer going back to a time when Beck was just a little  ::foilhathelicopter::.  Entertaining sure, but just a little  ::foilhathelicopter::

Can't do that anymore.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 30, 2012, 10:27:54 AM
Beck will be seen as a prophet or a harbinger, depending on ones point of view of the outcome.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 30, 2012, 11:22:25 AM
Check this out, the only reason Spike did something was a) fear of being sued and b) these asshats are democrats!  If not democrats I do believe this jackass would be in a lot more hot water.  As it is his irresponsible act is being bought off...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/spike-lee-reaches-settlement-with-elderly-couple-after-retweeting-wrong-address/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/spike-lee-reaches-settlement-with-elderly-couple-after-retweeting-wrong-address/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on March 30, 2012, 11:31:26 AM
The democrats are running over each other trying to see who is the biggest exploiter of this case!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/30/afl-cio-exec-conservative-right-wing-policies-to-blame-for-trayvon-martins-death-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/30/afl-cio-exec-conservative-right-wing-policies-to-blame-for-trayvon-martins-death-video/)

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/dnc-committeewoman-promotes-hoodie-rally-voter-registration-on-scene/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/dnc-committeewoman-promotes-hoodie-rally-voter-registration-on-scene/)

Paying attention, America?  Inflaming and exploiting racial issues, no matter how much you have to lie and spin, is what the democrat party is all about, if it means power for them!

Sick, sorry sonsofbitches!  Everyone deserves a massive pummeling at the polls this fall!

Kick the lying racist bastards out!!!

Oh, and Bobby Rush should be indicted asa co-conspirator of this mayhem, since the mindless automatons that make up his district seem intent and sporting hoodies and killing people!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/hoodie-wearing-gunmen-kill-1-injure-5-in-bobby-rushs-district/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/hoodie-wearing-gunmen-kill-1-injure-5-in-bobby-rushs-district/)

 ::saywhat::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 30, 2012, 11:36:45 AM

Convicted felon, Bobby Rush, has no right to serve as an elected official.  He doesn't
even have the right to vote.  Talk about fiat government
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 30, 2012, 03:23:04 PM

Convicted felon, Bobby Rush, has no right to serve as an elected official.  He doesn't
even have the right to vote.  Talk about fiat government


Restoration of Citizenship to convicted felons is a matter of state law and therefore, apples to all states through full faith and credit clause.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 30, 2012, 03:56:14 PM

Oh no, they may buy that transferable in Il but that bird don't fly.

Felons don't vote and they don't tote.


Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on March 30, 2012, 04:22:28 PM
Here come the riots. (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/sharpton-predicts-escalating-civil-disobedience-if-zimmerman-remains-free/)

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MSNBC host Rev. Al Sharpton says there will be an escalation in civil disobedience if George Zimmerman remains free.
The Orlando Sentinel reported, via Free Republic:

    If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, the Rev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.

    Sharpton would not say the efforts would be taken against the city of Sanford specifically, but he has been critical of the police department’s handling of the case.

    Saturday’s scheduled 11 a.m. march from Crooms Academy of Information Technology to the Sanford Police Department headquarters was organized by the local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

    The civil rights activist and syndicated television show host said he will elaborate on this plan Saturday.

    “I will speak about how the National Action Network will move to the next level if Zimmerman isn’t arrested,” Sharpton said, who founded the organization. He added that it was the Martin family and lawyers who first asked him to get involved and nationalize this story.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 30, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
Sharpton has so much moral authority, what with his standing since the Tawany Brawley situation and all.

I'd follow him into a race-riot if I was an Affkin-Mehkin. Fer sher.

He's a "Reverend".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on March 30, 2012, 04:41:34 PM

Oh no, they may buy that transferable in Il but that bird don't fly.

Felons don't vote and they don't tote.




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The voting rights of convicted felons are regulated by the 50 states and the District of Columbia. State laws affecting felons' voting rights vary widely, ranging from Maine and Vermont, where felons are permitted to vote while incarcerated, to Kentucky and Virginia, where voting rights of felons may be restored only by application to the governor. Some states permit convicted felons to resume voting after they have been released from prison. Other states provide for restoration of voting rights after completion of parole. Another group of states permit convicted felons to vote after they have completed all forms of supervised release. Some states restrict felons' voting rights based upon criteria such as the type of crime committed.

Read more: The Voting Rights of a Convicted Felon | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5072476_voting-rights-convicted-felon.html#ixzz1qdeg0tpl (http://www.ehow.com/about_5072476_voting-rights-convicted-felon.html#ixzz1qdeg0tpl)

Federal law prohibits convicted felons from possession a firearm.

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Congress passed the first blanket prohibition on felons carrying guns in the Gun Control Act of 1968, which made it illegal for felons to possess a gun any under circumstances. The Firearm Owners' Protection Act, passed in 1986, reinforced the ban on felons carrying guns, and also banned people who have been convicted of a crime punishable by more than one year of imprisonment from possessing guns.

http://felonyguide.com/Felony-Gun-Laws.php (http://felonyguide.com/Felony-Gun-Laws.php)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 30, 2012, 04:48:37 PM
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If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, the Rev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.

"Economic sanctions"?! WTH does he think he is, the UN?

And please (original author) don't insult me by intimating that what the rev wants is either "peaceful" or "civil" - he completely discredited that notion a long time ago.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 30, 2012, 07:10:14 PM
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If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, the Rev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.

"Economic sanctions"?! WTH does he think he is, the UN?

And please (original author) don't insult me by intimating that what the rev wants is either "peaceful" or "civil" - he completely discredited that notion a long time ago.

 The funny part is that all those that call for anything are never present for it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 30, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
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If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, the Rev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.

"Economic sanctions"?! WTH does he think he is, the UN?

And please (original author) don't insult me by intimating that what the rev wants is either "peaceful" or "civil" - he completely discredited that notion a long time ago.

 The funny part is that all those that call for anything are never present for it.

Yea, starting with the Agitator In Chief and his inspired and courageous tradition of voting "present".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 30, 2012, 07:23:50 PM

Right there's no felon portability.

And as for the Mighty Reverend ChickenFat and his Justice Brother colleague may they be consumed in the middle of whatever it is they contrive.
 
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on March 30, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
It was a travesty when MLK was assassinated and it will be a bigger one if Sharkton and Jesse Jackson aren't. ::laserkill::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 30, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
It was a travesty when MLK was assassinated and it will be a bigger one if Sharkton and Jesse Jackson aren't. ::laserkill::

 Words from the heart,we need more of that.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on March 31, 2012, 12:02:04 AM
I am guessing that CNN & MSNBC will carry Sharpton's march live tomorrow morning. If this isn't a riot-in-a-box I don't know what is. They have been prepping the participants all week long. I wish the locals had an LRAD or one of those new crowd dispersing heat rays. That would be beyond cool watching all those freaks writing on the ground in pain.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on March 31, 2012, 12:23:36 PM
I am guessing that CNN & MSNBC will carry Sharpton's march live tomorrow morning. If this isn't a riot-in-a-box I don't know what is. They have been prepping the participants all week long. I wish the locals had an LRAD or one of those new crowd dispersing heat rays. That would be beyond cool watching all those freaks writing on the ground in pain.

Yesterday i'm riding with my brother and he asks me if I want to hear some funny stuff.....So he turns the dial to "left wing radio"....Seriously, they were discussing Rush, Tryvon, Sharptons march and talk about boring. It was bad enough listening to thier outright lies and justification of liberals, but the host, his voice, monotone, boring, robotic.....no humor, no flair, no passion, no real content, no emotion...no nuthin'.

And libs wonder why they can't make it in the talk show scene.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on March 31, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
Generally speaking I've kept myself at arms length of this rolling train-wreck but ain't this one interesting (not saying that it's authentic but what if?):

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vzTvHdmuL7c/T3S3Mpk_pkI/AAAAAAAAAqU/2I3DKHeqxps/s640/Trayvon+tweet+about+zittertits.png)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on March 31, 2012, 03:41:57 PM
I am guessing that CNN & MSNBC will carry Sharpton's march live tomorrow morning. If this isn't a riot-in-a-box I don't know what is. They have been prepping the participants all week long. I wish the locals had an LRAD or one of those new crowd dispersing heat rays. That would be beyond cool watching all those freaks writing on the ground in pain.

Yesterday i'm riding with my brother and he asks me if I want to hear some funny stuff.....So he turns the dial to "left wing radio"....Seriously, they were discussing Rush, Tryvon, Sharptons march and talk about boring. It was bad enough listening to thier outright lies and justification of liberals, but the host, his voice, monotone, boring, robotic.....no humor, no flair, no passion, no real content, no emotion...no nuthin'.

And libs wonder why they can't make it in the talk show scene.
They can't make in talk radio because all the followers are to busy being stoned amongst their other vices so their isn't time to "listen". ::rockethrow::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on March 31, 2012, 06:34:09 PM

This is good, it's video from the way back machine, Fox won't touch this.

Sharpton Explains How He Manipulates Media On Race Cases (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/03/30/Sharpton-Civil-Disobedience)

[blockquote]Earlier today, MSNBC's Al Sharpton threatened the peace of a small Florida town if it doesn't acquiesce to his demand for the arrest of George Zimmerman. According to the Orlando Sentinel: 

    If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, the Rev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.  Sharpton would not say the efforts would be taken against the city of Sanford specifically, but he has been critical of the police department's handling of the case.

If only someone had warned NBC News that they were giving a prime-time platform to a vitriolic, race-hustling charlatan. Oh wait--we did. ...[/blockquote]
[Read and watch it all, HERE (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/03/30/Sharpton-Civil-Disobedience)]


Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on March 31, 2012, 07:43:10 PM
  I'm shocked!! ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on April 02, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
Generally speaking I've kept myself at arms length of this rolling train-wreck but ain't this one interesting (not saying that it's authentic but what if?):

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vzTvHdmuL7c/T3S3Mpk_pkI/AAAAAAAAAqU/2I3DKHeqxps/s640/Trayvon+tweet+about+zittertits.png)

It's at least as authentic as NBC news 911 transcript, and that's authentic enough for me.  ::bustamove::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Sectionhand on April 02, 2012, 01:28:22 PM
  " If I had a brother , he'd look like Al Sharpton ."
   
     Barack Obama
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 02, 2012, 02:19:41 PM
Is that your face Barack, or did a monkey crawl down the front of your head upside down?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 05, 2012, 07:37:06 AM
OMG, look at these democrat punks!  Keep pushing the racial BS, morons!  They really will not be satisified until they have their race war, and then they'll lust for more violence against those they hate beyond their ability to control!  And God forbid the truth dissaude them from fomenting violence!

 ::cussing::  criminal agitators, every damned one!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/04/Congressional-Black-Caucus-Trayvon-Resolution (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/04/Congressional-Black-Caucus-Trayvon-Resolution)

THe CBC needs to be banned as a terrorist organization and its ringleaders brought up on charges of sedition!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on April 05, 2012, 07:59:28 AM
Richard Jewell provided the template.  George Zimmerman can and will be a very rich man when this is all over. 
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on April 05, 2012, 08:45:07 AM
  " If I had a brother , he'd look like Al Sharpton ."
   
     Barack Obama


Hey, this could be fun.....

"If I had a brother, he'd look like occupy wall street"

Barack Obama


"if I had a brother, he'd look Kenyan"

Barack Obama

"if I had a brother, he'd look like the Muslim brotherhood"

Barack Hussein Obama





Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 05, 2012, 09:47:22 AM
"If I had a brother, he'd look like Danny Pearl."

-Barack Hussein Obama

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 05, 2012, 09:50:07 AM
Barack Hussein Obama: "If I had a brother (http://www.coolbeanmommas.com/2011/02/whats-love-got-to-do-with-it.html) he'd look like...uh, what were we talking' about?"

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_083gXIBsImA/TVFmRnOtpLI/AAAAAAAAAD4/iVuucNRUdTo/s320/Barack+Obamas+Brother+in+Bengo-002.jpg)

Barack Hussein Obama: "If I had an uncle (http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/09/obamas-illegal-alien-uncle-quietly.html) he'd look like...Hey, you're a racist for even bringing this up."

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PEMOBKjJVSY/TmpCBSffaMI/AAAAAAAADWQ/7O9qWZpg8Ow/s1600/adlonyango-obamaIA.jpeg)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 05, 2012, 11:40:40 AM
 ::hysterical::   ::rolllaughing::   ::laughonfloor::  Good stuff!   ::beertoast::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 05, 2012, 11:57:49 AM
"If I had a brother he'd look like a brother"

-- BHO
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 05, 2012, 01:34:18 PM
On April 7th ... (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/05/new-black-panthers-plan-call-to-action-day-before-zimmerman-hearing)

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....the New Black Panther Party in Florida declares they will conduct "county-wide and state-wide defense training and community patrols to protect against racial violence and attacks." And the NBPP also declares a call to action slated for Monday April 9th, the day before a Florida Grand Jury will convene on the Trayvon Martin case to decide whether to indict George Zimmerman.

This information comes from The Muslim Street Radio Show hosted by Malik Aziz and Laila Abdelaziz, taped an interview on April 1st with Malik Zulu Shabazz, the National Chairman of the New Black Panther Party. The "Day of Action" has also been advertised at a NBPP website in a poster which states, "No School, No Work, No Shopping... Demand the Arrest of George Zimmerman." Zimmerman's face in the poster is overlaid by crosshairs.

During the discussion of the Grand Jury hearing on April 10th, Shabazz speculates, "It should be very easy to achieve this indictment," giving insight into the timing of the "Day of Action." This is meant to intimidate those who may contend that Zimmerman acted in self-defense and should not be prosecuted. Shabazz, earlier in the conversation, asserts, "We obey man's law, but when there's a conflict between man's law and God's law, we are duty-bound to follow the law of God, and God says justice must be done."

Heeeere we go ........
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 05, 2012, 02:03:30 PM
Quote
"We obey man's law, but when there's a conflict between man's law and God's law, we are duty-bound to follow the law of God, and God says justice must be done."

Why, that sounds like something a Hodgie would say.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 05, 2012, 02:16:27 PM
Quote
"We obey man's law, but when there's a conflict between man's law and God's law, we are duty-bound to follow the law of God, and God says justice must be done."

Why, that sounds like something a Hodgie would say.

Sure does.  But hey, hell has lots of room, let's load it up with these terrorists!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: benb61 on April 05, 2012, 04:04:45 PM
Quote
"No School, No Work, No Shopping... Demand the Arrest of George Zimmerman." Zimmerman's face in the poster is overlaid by crosshairs.

I guess that is OK, but don't put a crosshair on a congressional district because that is telling people that you want the Congressman/woman assassinated.  The hypocrisy is ridiculous!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 05, 2012, 04:23:43 PM

They want to invoke the practice of ol' time religion, that sword cuts both ways.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 05, 2012, 04:33:31 PM

They want to invoke the practice of ol' time religion, that sword cuts both ways.

Indeed.
(http://knightstemplarsmc.com/images/templarjihad.jpg)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 05, 2012, 08:19:59 PM

They want to invoke the practice of ol' time religion, that sword cuts both ways.

Indeed.
(http://knightstemplarsmc.com/images/templarjihad.jpg)


 Nice!!!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 05, 2012, 08:26:49 PM
The Western world used to be united in its Christendom. I do believe the precipitous decline in the significance of religion is a huge ingredient in the West's current troubles. It's probably the single biggest factor that would explain the rapid expanse of Islam into Europe.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 05, 2012, 08:37:03 PM
The Western world used to be united in its Christendom. I do believe the precipitous decline in the significance of religion is a huge ingredient in the West's current troubles. It's probably the single biggest factor that would explain the rapid expanse of Islam into Europe.

  Open borders and gov.giveaways did the rest.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 05, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Quote
"We obey man's law, but when there's a conflict between man's law and God's law, we are duty-bound to follow the law of God, and God says justice must be done."

Why, that sounds like something a Hodgie would say.

Sure does.  But hey, hell has lots of room, let's load it up with these terrorists!
I heard that Lucifer was putting in a new addition just to accommodate Satan's Little Jug-eared Helper and his flying monkeys.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Damn_Lucky on April 05, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Barack Hussein Obama: "If I had a brother (http://www.coolbeanmommas.com/2011/02/whats-love-got-to-do-with-it.html) he'd look like...uh, what were we talking' about?"

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_083gXIBsImA/TVFmRnOtpLI/AAAAAAAAAD4/iVuucNRUdTo/s320/Barack+Obamas+Brother+in+Bengo-002.jpg)

Barack Hussein Obama: "If I had an uncle (http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/09/obamas-illegal-alien-uncle-quietly.html) he'd look like...Hey, you're a racist for even bringing this up."

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PEMOBKjJVSY/TmpCBSffaMI/AAAAAAAADWQ/7O9qWZpg8Ow/s1600/adlonyango-obamaIA.jpeg)

Truth in comedy or vise versa. ::hysterical:: ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 06, 2012, 07:22:46 AM
Quote
"We obey man's law, but when there's a conflict between man's law and God's law, we are duty-bound to follow the law of God, and God says justice must be done."

Why, that sounds like something a Hodgie would say.

Sure does.  But hey, hell has lots of room, let's load it up with these terrorists!
I heard that Lucifer was putting in a new addition just to accommodate Satan's Little Jug-eared Helper and his flying monkeys.

Whatever I can do the encourage the relocation of that bunch I am all for!   ::whoohoo::

Hey, I think I found the one thing I could work with Lucifer on!  Huh, I wonder if Allinsky would approve?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on April 06, 2012, 08:56:21 AM
The Allinsky wing for the terminally evil.  ::evilbat::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 07, 2012, 09:22:49 PM

Quote
Meanwhile, President Zero says nothing. Does nothing.

We live in interesting times that are almost undoubtedly going to become much more interesting very, very soon.


He lit the fire, he's watching it burn,  Watching it burn, that's what he's doing.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 07, 2012, 09:25:38 PM
Link (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/04/heavily_armed_neo-nazis_patrol.php)

OK, I've got it.  The Nazis from Detroit have come to Sanford to protect the
helpless Floridians from the New Black Panthers of Philadelphia who have arrived to feit Zimmerman.  Right, why fight at home when you can vacation in sunny Florida and race riot too?
It's tax deductible.

ETA:
 ::facepalm::
Woopsie, Sanford (FL) Police deny any indication of neo-Nazis patrolling (http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/sanford-fl-police-deny-any-indication-of-neo-nazis-patrolling/) "was they haven’t seen anything, “the only large gathering was the children and their parents at the Easter egg hunt.”"   ...

People say the darnedest things.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 07, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
Here we go again. This time in Tulsa, OK. ALLEGEDLY, a white guy is driving around in the "black" neighborhoods of Tulsa and is randomly shooting people. Read about it at FNC. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/07/police-link-shootings-in-tulsa-oklahoma-3-killed/)

Quote
TULSA, Okla. –  Residents of Tulsa's predominantly black north side said Saturday they are afraid a shooter is still roaming their neighborhoods looking for victims after five people were shot -- and three killed -- a day earlier.

"We're all nervous," said Renaldo Works, 52, who was getting his hair cut at the crowded Charlie's Angels Forever Hair Style Shop on Saturday morning. "I've got a 15-year-old, and I'm not going to let him out late. People are scared. We need facts.

"You don't want to be a prisoner in your own home," he said.

Police are still waiting for the results of forensic tests, but investigators think the shootings are linked because they happened around the same time within a 3-mile (5-kilometer) span, and all five victims were out walking when they were shot. All the victims are black, and community members met this weekend in an effort to calm any unrest.

One of the victims told police that the shooter was a white man driving a white pickup truck who stopped to ask for directions before opening fire. Officer Jason Willingham said Saturday that the pickup was spotted in the area of three of the shootings.

I am hoping that Sharpton goes to Tulsa to march in the street.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 07, 2012, 10:54:13 PM
Quote
One of the victims told police that the shooter was a white man driving a white pickup truck who stopped to ask for directions before opening fire.

A survivor was shot at point blank range.
Good thing the sheriff is checking this out.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 07, 2012, 11:02:15 PM
Look at what the great Uniter has set in motion.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 07, 2012, 11:19:58 PM
Here we go again. This time in Tulsa, OK. ALLEGEDLY, a white guy is driving around in the "black" neighborhoods of Tulsa and is randomly shooting people. Read about it at FNC. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/07/police-link-shootings-in-tulsa-oklahoma-3-killed/)

Quote
TULSA, Okla. –  Residents of Tulsa's predominantly black north side said Saturday they are afraid a shooter is still roaming their neighborhoods looking for victims after five people were shot -- and three killed -- a day earlier.

"We're all nervous," said Renaldo Works, 52, who was getting his hair cut at the crowded Charlie's Angels Forever Hair Style Shop on Saturday morning. "I've got a 15-year-old, and I'm not going to let him out late. People are scared. We need facts.

"You don't want to be a prisoner in your own home," he said.

Police are still waiting for the results of forensic tests, but investigators think the shootings are linked because they happened around the same time within a 3-mile (5-kilometer) span, and all five victims were out walking when they were shot. All the victims are black, and community members met this weekend in an effort to calm any unrest.

One of the victims told police that the shooter was a white man driving a white pickup truck who stopped to ask for directions before opening fire. Officer Jason Willingham said Saturday that the pickup was spotted in the area of three of the shootings.

I am hoping that Sharpton goes to Tulsa to march in the street.

NOW, he's worried about his 15 year-old out late?!  Ought to be SOP; at 15, it's in the house by 9PM.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 08, 2012, 02:54:44 PM

 Cosby on Trayvon Case: Disarm Neighborhood Watchmen (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/04/07/Bill-Cosby-Trayvon)

Do as I say Bill Cosby wants neighborhood watchmen disarmed. 
Of course, it's OK by him, he's got a NYC permit for a Colt 45. 
That's what I read.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 08, 2012, 02:58:07 PM

 Cosby on Trayvon Case: Disarm Neighborhood Watchmen (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/04/07/Bill-Cosby-Trayvon)

Do as I say Bill Cosby wants neighborhood watchmen disarmed. 
Of course, it's OK by him, he's got a NYC permit for a Colt 45. 
That's what I read.


How stupid is that.  Anyone casing the neighborhood for nefarious reasons is going after the neighborhood watchman FIRST.

Good grief.  These people have tossed aside their abilities to think in favor of feeeeeeling.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 08, 2012, 03:02:03 PM
I think Cosby thinks we're too stupit.  Hey Bill, KMA!
************************************************************************

Two arrested in Tulsa shootings in Black neighborhood (http://times247.com/articles/two-arrested-in-tulsa-shootings-in-black-neighborhood)

http://cdn.times247.com/media/pictures/4f81d4aef2a8bd551b0008c3/RN_shooters.jpg?1333908654 (http://cdn.times247.com/media/pictures/4f81d4aef2a8bd551b0008c3/RN_shooters.jpg?1333908654)

WHAT  A  PAIR   ::speechless::
************************************************************************

ETA: Who’s Packing Heat? (http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/9920/)

Taxi Driver star Robert De Niro ...Harvey Keitel. Others...Arthur Ochs Sulzberger..., Don Imus, Bill Cosby, Joan Rivers, Howard Stern, Tommy Mottola, and Donald Trump ... .

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 09, 2012, 11:38:32 AM
No Grand Jury?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/04/09/grand-jury-will-not-hear-trayvon-martin-case/ (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/04/09/grand-jury-will-not-hear-trayvon-martin-case/)

Uhh huh, so bypass normal procedure, why?  Preponderance of evidence against any criminality?  Or, preponderance of evidence for direct prosecution?

Corey is putting herself into the middle of this, right or wrong.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 09, 2012, 11:06:18 PM
 
And this year's Dan Rather award for journalistic excellence:
[blockquote]
So (http://www.breitbart.com/) over the course of about 30 months and under the "watchful" eye of Steve Capus, three times now NBC News has used deceptive editing in order to gin up racial division, all in an effort to aid Barack Obama by targeting his political critics (Tea Party, Rick Perry) or aid in the President's cynical reelection campaign to divide all Americans along racial lines (George Zimmerman).

Editgate: Three Strikes and NBC's Steve Capus Should Be Out (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/09/Editgate-Three-Strikes-Capus-Out)

At the NBC/Universal Website, Steve Capus' role at NBC News is described in this way:

    Steve Capus was named President, NBC News in November 2005. He is the No. 1 News Division executive and is responsible for all aspects of America's highest-rated and most-watched network News division, as well as MSNBC and NBC News Channel. Capus is also the arbiter of issues involving ethics, style, standards, safety and other matters that affect the Division's journalistic bearing.[/blockquote] 

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 10, 2012, 07:31:52 AM

And this year's Dan Rather award for journalistic excellence:
[blockquote]
So (http://www.breitbart.com/) over the course of about 30 months and under the "watchful" eye of Steve Capus, three times now NBC News has used deceptive editing in order to gin up racial division, all in an effort to aid Barack Obama by targeting his political critics (Tea Party, Rick Perry) or aid in the President's cynical reelection campaign to divide all Americans along racial lines (George Zimmerman).

Editgate: Three Strikes and NBC's Steve Capus Should Be Out (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/09/Editgate-Three-Strikes-Capus-Out)

At the NBC/Universal Website, Steve Capus' role at NBC News is described in this way:

    Steve Capus was named President, NBC News in November 2005. He is the No. 1 News Division executive and is responsible for all aspects of America's highest-rated and most-watched network News division, as well as MSNBC and NBC News Channel. Capus is also the arbiter of issues involving ethics, style, standards, safety and other matters that affect the Division's journalistic bearing.[/blockquote] 



 ::asskicking::

In a sane world...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 10, 2012, 07:35:43 AM
Get this, this is good - Zimmerman family getting in Eric Holder's face, as they should!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/zimmerman-family-challenges-holder-on-new-black-panthers-says-no-arrests-based-solely-on-your-race/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/zimmerman-family-challenges-holder-on-new-black-panthers-says-no-arrests-based-solely-on-your-race/)

Not seeing much coverage of this in the   ::cussing::  MFM!  The entire Democrat-Media Complex is out for Zimmerman no matter what, they'd implode if the turned on the black community...no matter how scummy Martin is or how innocent Zimmerman is, their choice was made on skin color alone, period.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 10, 2012, 08:23:30 AM
Florida Asst. AG can recommend charges that are non-capital. (Voluntary Manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter)

My guess is that Zimmerman will be charged with a non-capital, negligent homicide type of offense. That way everybody will be happy. Right? I mean, the law does not trump politics when a race war powder keg has a lit fuse. Right?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 10, 2012, 09:13:09 AM
Right.  The media echo chamber is something like this:

It's not about a preponderance of evidence or lack thereof, it's "the seriousness of the charge" that matters. So, Zimmerman may have to give up 20 years of his life instead of all of it. I mean, that's a generous compromise right? We couldn't possibly let this guy off scot-free, not with the firestorm (that we created, btw) swirling around this issue.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 10, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
Get this, this is good - Zimmerman family getting in Eric Holder's face, as they should!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/zimmerman-family-challenges-holder-on-new-black-panthers-says-no-arrests-based-solely-on-your-race/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/zimmerman-family-challenges-holder-on-new-black-panthers-says-no-arrests-based-solely-on-your-race/)

...

This letter is evidence that he will not only face charges of malfeasance, corruption, and homicide but that he will also be charged with a hate crime.  A good prosecutor could tie them together and say all his crimes are hate crimes.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 10, 2012, 11:38:16 AM
Get this, this is good - Zimmerman family getting in Eric Holder's face, as they should!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/zimmerman-family-challenges-holder-on-new-black-panthers-says-no-arrests-based-solely-on-your-race/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/zimmerman-family-challenges-holder-on-new-black-panthers-says-no-arrests-based-solely-on-your-race/)

...

This letter is evidence that he will not only face charges of malfeasance, corruption, and homicide but that he will also be charged with a hate crime.  A good prosecutor could tie them together and say all his crimes are hate crimes.



We're talking about Holder, right< I just want that to be clear!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on April 10, 2012, 11:43:12 AM
Holder is obamas uncle Tom.....either version, a slave beholden to his master or a black man, hired into race baiting and ordered not to hold anyone " of color" accountable.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 10, 2012, 11:52:13 AM
You know, it's all really out in the open now, everything ever suspected about how the Left would operate at the top levels of power.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 10, 2012, 12:02:46 PM

Erick ( hate my Anglo sounding name) Holder  -> charges of malfeasance, corruption, and homicide but that he will also be charged with a hate crime.  A good prosecutor could tie them together and say all his crimes are hate crimes.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 10, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
You know, it's all really out in the open now, everything ever suspected about how the Left would operate at the top levels of power.

There would be FEMA camps filled with people not like them awaiting the ovens if these bastards thought they could get away with it, it's on their agenda, don't doubt it!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 10, 2012, 12:05:16 PM

Erick ( hate my Anglo sounding name) Holder  -> charges of malfeasance, corruption, and homicide but that he will also be charged with a hate crime.  A good prosecutor could tie them together and say all his crimes are hate crimes.

No prosecutors of that kind of courage are to be found in latter-day America...

 ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 10, 2012, 01:32:16 PM
You know, it's all really out in the open now, everything ever suspected about how the Left would operate at the top levels of power.

And they've made their power play because they think it's now demographically feasible. It's a question that awaits an answer.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 10, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
Zimmerman's lawyers quit the case. (http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/10/zimmermans-attorneys-weve-lost-contact-with-zimmerman/)

Apparently this has something to do with Zimmerman contacting Hannity and saying that he has no lawyers, only "legal advisers." This statement coupled with the assertion from the lawyers that Zimmerman has cut off all communication with them since sometime on Sunday has been the justification for them withdrawing from the case.

The saga continues.

As a point of curiosity: Zimmerman's "legal advisers" while not revealing where he was told the press that if they are looking for him in Florida that they are "way, way off."

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 10, 2012, 05:26:20 PM

A VW dealer, years ago, in Mexico City told me that if you are involved in any type of altercation (traffic accident) to run away quickly to a trusted friends house, gather money and allow him to negotiate a settlement before reveling one's self. If you didn't follow that procedure jail and prison were a certainty.

We now have a third world judicial system.  This is the country we live in.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 10, 2012, 05:31:55 PM

A VW dealer, years ago, in Mexico City told me that if you are involved in any type of altercation (traffic accident) to run away quickly to a trusted friends house, gather money and allow him to negotiate a settlement before reveling one's self. If you didn't follow that procedure jail and prison were a certainty.

We now have a third world judicial system.  This is the country we live in.

I am guessing that Mexico's legal system is based on the Napoleonic Code which is (as I understand it) essentially guilty until proven innocent. Zimmerman has already been tried by the media and is being punished (and will be punished further) by the racial outrage industry.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 10, 2012, 05:43:11 PM

A VW dealer, years ago, in Mexico City told me that if you are involved in any type of altercation (traffic accident) to run away quickly to a trusted friends house, gather money and allow him to negotiate a settlement before reveling one's self. If you didn't follow that procedure jail and prison were a certainty.

We now have a third world judicial system.  This is the country we live in.

If the Assistant Attorney General in Florida really wants to follow the law, she should hold a press conference and tell the Stupid Class that the State has no case, the evidence shows that Zimmerman, (whatever happened in the minutes before the shooting,) was being assaulted by Trayvon Martin, and the victim had the legal right under Florida law to use deadly force if he thought his life was in danger.

Sorry all, but that is just the way it is. Having a witness that will testify that he saw the guy with the red sweater (Zimmerman) getting the sh*t kicked out of him by the hoodie wearing Martin, is ALL THAT MATTERS LEGALLY.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Sally Brown on April 10, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
You know, it's all really out in the open now, everything ever suspected about how the Left would operate at the top levels of power.

There would be FEMA camps filled with people not like them awaiting the ovens if these bastards thought they could get away with it, it's on their agenda, don't doubt it!

There definitely would be ovens if those monsters could get away with it.  Remember how Billy Ayers and his pals used to sit around and discuss what would happen when they got control of the US and how, after they had doled out parts of it to the Russians and Chinese, they figured that they would have to kill around 25,000,000 American citizens before they could have absolute control with no trouble from the peons.

I doubt that opinions have changed.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 11, 2012, 08:16:01 AM
You know, it's all really out in the open now, everything ever suspected about how the Left would operate at the top levels of power.

There would be FEMA camps filled with people not like them awaiting the ovens if these bastards thought they could get away with it, it's on their agenda, don't doubt it!

There definitely would be ovens if those monsters could get away with it.  Remember how Billy Ayers and his pals used to sit around and discuss what would happen when they got control of the US and how, after they had doled out parts of it to the Russians and Chinese, they figured that they would have to kill around 25,000,000 American citizens before they could have absolute control with no trouble from the peons.

I doubt that opinions have changed.

Indeed!

You can go back to Wilson and his idiotic nation-building schemes to see how that worked out for eastern European countries before WWII and all the ethnic cleansing that occurred there.  The progressive family tree also has that eugenics monster Sanger in it too, and people like Hillary Clinton proclaim themselves proud Progressives!  None of these leopards change their spots!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: benb61 on April 11, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
Quote
they figured that they would have to kill around 25,000,000 American citizens before they could have absolute control with no trouble from the peons.

Unfortunately for the survivors, the people that will be killed off will be those productive and entrepreneurial people that currently supply the cash that the PTB need to continue to pay the lazy bastidges that will vote for them and the PTB will realize too late that they killed off the people they needed to continue to fund their crap and that maybe it was the lazy welfare recipients that should have been eliminated.  But then they would loose power, it would be a vicious cycle.  wash, rinse, repeat... till there are no one to rule and the PTB starve.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 11, 2012, 12:46:38 PM
ETA: Breitbart - http://content.bitsontherun.com/previews/x7Mj3g59-dh3Zgtip (http://content.bitsontherun.com/previews/x7Mj3g59-dh3Zgtip)

New Black Panthers Chairman Shabazz Building An Army Of Blacks In Florida “To Kill”… (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/11/new-black-panthers-chairman-shabazz-building-an-army-of-blacks-in-florida-to-kill/)

We're goin in soon within a few weeks
We're going to train the community and community patrols
...
...
We have to raise up an army  in FL of black men and
black people who will patrol and defend the community
We have to build a ministry of defense in FL
...
We've got to build and in self defense we've got to kill.

  cross posted @ http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1148.msg59843.html#msg59843 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1148.msg59843.html#msg59843)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 11, 2012, 01:04:17 PM

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/why-nothing-sticks-to-george-zimmerman (http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/why-nothing-sticks-to-george-zimmerman)
By almost any standard, Zimmerman’s legal defense in the Trayvon Martin shooting case has been a sort of ongoing cautionary tale for exactly what not to do if you’re facing potentially serious criminal charges.
...
Rather than finding anything they could follow up with, what happened instead? The Sanford Police Department was unable to obtain any evidence that would allow them to press even involuntary manslaughter charges against Zimmerman. And no new evidence changed that, even as days and weeks passed.

http://weaselzippers.us/ (http://weaselzippers.us/)
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/11/why-nothing-sticks-to-george-zimmerman/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/11/why-nothing-sticks-to-george-zimmerman/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 11, 2012, 01:22:50 PM
The FL prosecutor is going to charge Zimmerman. Big surprise.

No word yet on the charge but it will almost certainly be manslaughter.

The indictment was a foregone conclusion when the grand jury option was removed.

I also have to believe that the prosecution's case is pretty weak given the lack of witnesses and other evidence. Maybe they think he will have to take the stand and they will break him in front of the jury. Apart from that they have nothing. Nothing that we know of, anyway.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on April 11, 2012, 01:55:19 PM
Looks like the prosecutor is more interested in posing for the stupid, rather than just doing her job.  Why not just state the charges, rather then having to wait to organize press conferences and "events?"

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 11, 2012, 02:23:54 PM
Traditionally, we've had civil court and criminal court. Now we have a new one: political court. Truth and facts are no defense there.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 11, 2012, 02:34:34 PM
Yeah, this all about appeasing the nasty bloodthirsty negroes out there clamoring for Zimmerman's skin on a wall and nothing to do with objective legal procedure!  If a Grand Jury is bypassed it is either a sign that the case is weak and/or the agenda is more important than the eventual result...bottom line someone has to get dragged into court and subjected to this circus.  A request for change of venue is a no-brainer, jury selection will win it or lose it more than anything.  Good luck trying to find anyone anywhere who hasn't some knowledge of this case, thanks to the Democrat-Media Complex & Race-Baiting Industry there will be a lot of moronic potential jurors out there with totally effed up conclusions about this case.

I can only hope this all blows up in the prosecutors face and Zimmerman gets off and the Democrat-Media Complex, Race-Baiting Industry and nasty bloodthirsty negroe community goes nuts!

The political court has already rendered verdict G, the criminal court is going to piggyback that, and win or lose the civil case will be next.  These jerks would love nothing better than to bankrupt someone exercising the right of self-defense one way or another as a warning to other would-be vicitms...their message is clear...when a black criminal jacks you up, best just take it like a good cracker!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 11, 2012, 02:40:53 PM
I hope it begins to sink in with some people that there is no Rule of Law anymore.  We have a prosecutor who was either too afraid of no-billing, or too interested in achieving some sort of political fame.

This is looking like another Nifong scenario.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 11, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
Yup, and the lives dragged through hell just don't matter, it's all bullsh*t, it's all PR, it's all appearances...

This is not the America I once knew...

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 11, 2012, 05:16:03 PM
The charge is 2nd Degree Murder.  Arrest warrant issued and Zimmerman has 24 hours to turn himself in.

Now to find an untainted jury pool.   ::saywhat::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 11, 2012, 06:21:47 PM
Okay...here we go. If you haven't heard this yet, well, be prepared for some pretty nasty language...

New Black Panthers Calling for Race War - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2zBMZiV7zU#ws)

These people psychos want to kill anyone who isn't black enough.

Now...

What you have shaping up with the Zimmerman prosecution is another OJ Simpson trial. Unless they impanel an all black/all new black panther jury there is a very good chance that Zimmerman will be acquitted. First of all the evidence isn't all that strong. It basically comes down to his sworn statements and some circumstantial evidence that will most likely line up with his statements. A jury has to convict with almost zero doubt that Zimmerman is guilty of actual murder. Perhaps they will give the jury the opportunity to convict on manslaughter as an option. If that happens I don't see that as a slam dunk conviction either. But getting back to the OJ thing, this could very well turn out to be a jury nullification situation if the evidence is not overwhelming against Zimmerman or even if it's close.

And if that happens (and I think that it will) then there is the possibility that these NBP clowns will attempt to follow through with their little race war threat. I would look for a LOT of gun purchases in FL in the next few months. I would look for a LOT of increased traffic at shooting ranges. I would look for an up-tick in "neighborhood watch" programs (read: local militias) being organized in the next few months. At least, that's what I would be doing if I lived anywhere near this mess. Doomsday preppers, indeed. That's what I'd be prepping for given the rhetoric in the above recording, given the lack of interest in local law enforcement to do anything about reward posters and bounties, given the attitude displayed by the district attorney's office.

Yes, I do believe that FL is in for a very interesting experience in the coming weeks and months. This will be like their own custom occupy demonstration except that it will involve NBPs marching around in their jack-booted thug personas and attempting to terrorize whatever jurisdiction ends up with the trial. Zimmerman may or may not make bail (he HAS been arrested) and if he doesn't then I think you can expect the NBPs to hold a 24/7 vigil outside his jail cell. And if he does make bail then they will move heaven and earth trying to find out where he is holed up so that they can terrorize and/or kill him.

Yep, it's going to be a circus. A circus with semi-auto rifles. Can't wait.


BONUS:

Picture of Michelle Williams who wants to kill all the whiteys she can find:

(http://www.wtsp.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/photogallery/250254/02.jpg)

Quote from Ace:
Quote
...so one can imagine she has a lot of rage at the world. God didn't love her enough to make her pretty.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 11, 2012, 06:38:27 PM
And if a jury acquits him, the non-black members of that jury will then become targets as well. And their families, places of employment, and so on. That is "the country we live in now". It's the Left's totalitarianism. Everything is political, and everything is personal.

The GOP convention being in nearby Tampa should add to the...interest...in Florida this summer.  Let's hope the Left gives Floridians a nice long look at just who and what they are, as we head toward November. Florida is a crucial state, and nothing helps conservatism more than when people see what liberalism is really all about.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on April 11, 2012, 07:08:20 PM
And if a jury acquits him, the non-black members of that jury will then become targets as well. And their families, places of employment, and so on. That is "the country we live in now". It's the Left's totalitarianism. Everything is political, and everything is personal.

The GOP convention being in nearby Tampa should add to the...interest...in Florida this summer.  Let's hope the Left gives Floridians a nice long look at just who and what they are, as we head toward November. Florida is a crucial state, and nothing helps conservatism more than when people see what liberalism is really all about.

hmmm, what an interesting coincidence
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 11, 2012, 07:12:43 PM

I thought about making this a topic.  However, this clip is germane here as we move into the
race war threats by the NBP and the pervasive tender box of these times.  Here are two kids
who obviously have been following thedebate about citizens right to video cops. They do it and
this DA cop illustrates how ignition can be brought about not by intent but by stupidity.

Houston Cop goes CRAZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GYUJYbPq7k#ws)

This is the dangerous variable of which we have no control.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 11, 2012, 07:27:42 PM
Don't we?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Magnum on April 11, 2012, 07:42:26 PM
I do not know what really happened. I have my suspicions (this is a liberal witch hunt) and believe one of the consequences of this tragic event is how the lefties will try to use this to change our gun laws. Like that schmuck Rahm Emanuel says never let a crisis go to waste.

I live in the city and have all my life and see thugs every day. I have had a few incidents that could have turned very ugly but they all ended well. I am lucky I do not get messed with because of how I look and feel safe in walking though most areas of the city. However I am starting to see a new type of thug emerge and this makes me very nervous.

I have heard many comment on other threads on Trayvon Martin’s age in that he was only 17. Let me tell you there are many 17 year olds that would give me a tremendous fight. At 17 these are young men with testosterone raging in their systems, they are maturing muscularly and they are extremely quick. Add to this drugs and you have a potential deadly lethal weapon even if they aren't carrying guns.

But what concerns me the most is that the young thugs seem to becoming morally dead. I blame much of this on the lefties and their vision of/for the “great society” and all the other lefty B.S.……..IMHO it has destroyed the black family. We are now seeing the fruits of their labor.......... These boys have no dads or mentors to guide them morally. When these young “men” want something they take by any means possible with no regret, conscience or thought of the consequences. The courts usually throw them right back out in the streets after a crime which further re enforces to them that consequences are no deterrent. To them too death means little as they are young and believe they are invincible.

I do not carry much but that is going to change………………………..

Prayers for Zimmerman and his family that a just and honest verdict is rendered.



Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: robins111 on April 11, 2012, 07:54:33 PM
This is looking like a Soviet show trial, to this dumb Canadian..  I hope I'm wrong..   I have a vast respect for American law and this is straining it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 11, 2012, 08:21:52 PM
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I thought about making this a topic.

Plz let me know if you do. For now I'll just leave a bookmark...

"You don't step on Superman's cape; You don't spit into the wind..."
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 11, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
This is looking like a Soviet show trial, to this dumb Canadian..  I hope I'm wrong..   I have a vast respect for American law and this is straining it.

Quote
Corey opened the news conference by saying that she had spoken with Martin's parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, when she took over the case last month and "we told those sweet parents" that they would get answers.
- Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey

Tell me that Zimmerman stands a snowball's chance in hell. Go ahead - anyone tell me.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 11, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
What are the odds she's already doing some preliminary shopping around for a publicist?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 11, 2012, 08:49:06 PM
The idea that this man is going to be served up as penance to sate the demagogic agenda of the race-pimps for some false grievance dispensed with 150 years ago turns my gut. It makes me feel violent.

I would have preferred George Zimmerman had been subjected to blind justice. That is no longer possible. Not even a shred of a chance of it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Magnum on April 11, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
And this ::gaah::

Zimmerman Prosecutor: I Prayed With Trayvon Martin’s Parents The First Time We Met


http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/11/zimmerman-prosecutor-i-prayed-with-trayvon-martins-parents-first-time-we-met/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/11/zimmerman-prosecutor-i-prayed-with-trayvon-martins-parents-first-time-we-met/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 11, 2012, 09:18:37 PM

I thought about making this a topic.  However, this clip is germane here as we move into the
race war threats by the NBP and the pervasive tender box of these times.  Here are two kids
who obviously have been following thedebate about citizens right to video cops. They do it and
this DA cop illustrates how ignition can be brought about not by intent but by stupidity.

Houston Cop goes CRAZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GYUJYbPq7k#ws)

This is the dangerous variable of which we have no control.

I think this cop was totally out of line. He doesn't deserve the badge, and somebody would be wise to get a gun and a taser out of his hands.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 11, 2012, 09:43:37 PM

Yes, it's/he's one more straw.  It would have been really
difficult to walk over and say 'high, I'm officer friendly
do you boys need any help'.

And that Florida prosecutor, so happy y'all came out to
see my big fat axe, I'm so thrilled for this opportunity to
use it.  O'Really started his show with her happy face as
did just about every blog and blog magazine.
Oh yeah, she gonna' calm the waters.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 11, 2012, 09:52:17 PM

Yes, it's/he's one more straw.  It would have been really
difficult to walk over and say 'high, I'm officer friendly
do you boys need any help'.

And that Florida prosecutor, so happy y'all came out to
see my big fat axe, I'm so thrilled for this opportunity to
use it.  O'Really started his show with her happy face as
did just about every blog and blog magazine.
Oh yeah, she gonna' calm the waters.

No.  She also said something to the effect of 'giving Zimmerman a chance to say how sorry he is'.

I'm sure he is sorry, but not because he may have saved his own life.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 11, 2012, 10:00:06 PM

No, what?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 11, 2012, 10:07:15 PM

No, what?


No, she ain't gonna calm the waters.  The vicious, grasping, opportunistic bitch.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on April 12, 2012, 05:10:49 AM
How is it that an eyewitness gave a statement to the police that Zimmerman was getting pummeled on his back from an assailant that just happened to be Trayvon Martin who is now dead from a gunshot wound from the guy he was assaulting not credible evidence to the effect of self defense. Was Zimmerman supposed to read this kid's mind somehow and determine that (he) was going to quit assaulting him at some predetermined point? Is that some kind of unwritten street brawl guideline? If unarmed, would Zimmerman been left for dead or having a irreversible head injury as in brain damage as is the case with so many other assaults?

This stinks!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2012, 07:36:29 AM
It does stink.

The whole thing stinks!

The prosecutor is clearly biased, can't wait to see how discovery goes!  Can't wait to see how change of venue goes!  Can't wait to see how jury selection goes!  Can't wait to see what kind of judge gets this!  Can't wait to see what verdict is made and what sentence is given!  Can't wait for the appeals!  Can't wait for the civil case!  Can't wait for the NBP to start a race war!  Can't wait for the Democrat-Media Complex to screw this up nine ways to Sunday!  Can't wait for the made-for-TV movie starring Sean Penn as a bloodthirsty cracker eager to kill innocent black youth that fuels yet more black rage!

Yes, I just can't wait!!!

 ::falldownshocked::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on April 12, 2012, 07:56:19 AM
2nd degree murder says that Zimmerman really did stalk and gun down Martin.  Where's the evidence of this?  The cuts on the back of Zimmerman''s head?

This will not end well.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on April 12, 2012, 10:18:58 AM
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Definition of Second Degree Murder
 
The crime of Second Degree Murder occurs when a person commits either:
 •Murder with a Depraved Mind or
•Accomplice Felony Murder
 
Murder with a Depraved Mind
 
Murder with a Depraved Mind occurs when a person is killed, without any premeditated design, by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life.

The primary distinction between Premeditated First Degree Murder and Second Degree Murder with a Depraved Mind is that First Degree Murder requires a specific and premeditated intent to kill.

Accomplice Felony Murder
 
Accomplice Felony Second Degree Murder occurs when you are an accomplice to a person who kills another human being while engaged in the commission, or attempted commission, of the following statutorily enumerated felonies, regardless of whether they intended the death:
 •Aggravated abuse of an elderly person or disabled adult,
•Aggravated child abuse,
•Aggravated stalking,
•Aircraft piracy,
•Arson,
•Burglary
•Carjacking,
•Distribution of Controlled Substances
•Escape,
•Home-invasion robbery,
•Kidnapping,
•Murder of another human being,
•Resisting Officer with Violence,
•Robbery,
•Sexual battery,
•Terrorism,
•Trafficking in Controlled Substances, or
•Unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb.
 
Penalties for Second Degree Murder
 
The crime of Second Degree Murder is classified as a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.

If convicted of Second Degree Murder, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 16¾ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:
•Up to Life in prison.
•Up to Life on probation.
•Up to $10,000 in fines.
 
10/20/Life
 
Under Florida's 10-20-Life law, a person who uses a Firearm to commit Second Degree Murder must be sentenced to a minimum-mandatory prison sentence of 25 years.[1]

Defenses to Second Degree Murder
 
In addition to the pretrial defenses and trial defenses that can be raised in any criminal case, specific defenses to the crime of Second Degree Murder are:

Excusable Homicide
 
The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of the following three circumstances:
•When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
•When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
•When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
 
Justifiable Homicide
 
The killing of a human being is justifiable homicide and lawful if done while resisting an attempt by someone to kill you or to commit a felony against you.

Self Defense
 
Also known as the justified use of deadly force, self defense is a defense to the crime of Second Degree Murder.

LINK (http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/homicide/second-degree-murder.html)

Thought it would be interesting to read the definition.

Obviously, the state will attempt to prove he acted with a depraved mind.  I'd bet they think the fact he had a gun is enough to prove "by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life."

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 12, 2012, 10:26:39 AM
And what's up with the mandatory 25 year sentence for 2nd degree murder committed with a firearm?  If the perpetrator uses a knife or tire iron is that somehow less murderous?
Title: Trayvon's Mom: "I believe it was an accident"
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 12, 2012, 10:40:44 AM
This must have the race-pimps and the ambitious prosecutor in conniptions, eh?

Quote
Trayvon's mom says 'shooting was accident,' Zimmerman to face judge
Trayvon's mother, Sybrina Fulton, said on the Today Show she wants an apology from George Zimmerman. (http://southflorida.sun-sentinel.com/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-charged-jail-20120412,0,338039.story)

George Zimmerman woke up in a Seminole County jail cell this morning as the mother of Trayvon Martin, the teen he killed, revealed on national television that she thinks the shooting was an accident.

Zimmerman is set to go before Judge Mark Herr at 1:30 p.m. today on a charge of second-degree murder.

Asked what she would like to ask to Zimmerman, Trayvon's mother, Sybrina Fulton, said on The Today Show that she wants an apology from him.

"I believe it was an accident. I believe it just got out of control and he couldn't turn the clock back," Fulton said, revealing her opinion about what happened the night her 17-year-old son was shot to death. "I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon."

Fulton said even if Zimmerman is found not guilty, the arrest achieves the goal of their campaign to raise awareness and bring him to justice.

"We just want him to be held accountable for what he done," Fulton said. "We are happy that he was arrested so that he can give his side of the story."

This sounds to me like a thoroughly decent woman, just grieving for her son and looking for answers. Why on earth is she allowing herself to be flanked by Al Sharpton? I guess he IS a professional.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2012, 10:57:27 AM
Yeah, well, not stopping this prosecutor with an agenda from pushing Murder 2 now is it?!

"We do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition. We prosecute based on the facts on any given case as well as the laws of the state of Florida,"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-11-18-27-48 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-11-18-27-48)

Bullsh*t!

Oh, and here's another helpful voice to the over-amped atmosphere!

"Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace."
 http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html)

Mikey the punk thug loser (not surprisingly) cannot even get the facts straight, so his mind doesn't stand a chance at getting anything right either!

Hey Mikey?  I'm surprised you aren't a corpse yet!  I keep hope alive though!   ;)

We are overrun with race-first-and-only group-think idiots and assholes!   ::gaah::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 12, 2012, 11:18:35 AM
OVER CHARGE

Worked out really swell when Florida prosecutors charged Casey Anthony with First Degree Murder/Capital crime/Death Penalty in the murder of her missing 3-year-old, Caylee Marie.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 12, 2012, 11:22:33 AM
OVER CHARGE

Worked out really swell when Florida prosecutors charged Casey Anthony with First Degree Murder/Capital crime/Death Penalty in the murder of her missing 3-year-old, Caylee Marie.

No doubt. If they really wanted to seek justice they should have made a charge that can stick. 3rd degree manslaughter or something like that. The facts just don't seem to support a murder charge. He passed a frikkin lie detector test on the night of the killing, for Pete's sake.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 12, 2012, 11:24:09 AM
Yeah, I love the prosecutor in her news conference saying that she was not bowing to pressure in charging Zimmerman.

It's all about bowing to pressure.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 12, 2012, 12:33:59 PM
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they end up trying to plea bargain him to a lesser charge. Plea bargaining is bullsh*t. It's a way for the state to strong arm a conviction out of someone who might be entirely innocent. The accused is forced to make a calculation, do they accept a few years in prison even though they know they're innocent, or do they maintain their innocence and risk being subjected to a harsher indictment?

But hey, it looks good for the solve rate of the local police and DA and that's all that matters.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 12, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
And what's up with the mandatory 25 year sentence for 2nd degree murder committed with a firearm?  If the perpetrator uses a knife or tire iron is that somehow less murderous?

Guns make a very loud and scary noise and have a very frightening look which is quite disturbing to most liberals. They much prefer sharp, pointy or blunt and heavy murder weapons that have multiple uses and don't make as much noise. Did OJ use a gun? Heck, no. That would have been gauche.

Liberals like their murders quiet. Better to have someone beaten multiple times with a heavy, blunt object so that it won't wake the kids. Or stabbed multiple times. Plus, murder should be an up close and personal experience...they want to be able to look into the eyes of the victim/killer. Liberals fantasize about being able to kill their enemies with mental telepathy.

Much more civilized. It's the way that all murders should happen. Like on PBS. With classical music. And wine. With cheese. Or maybe tofu.

Title: Re: New Black Liberation Militia Vows Vengeance!
Post by: John Florida on April 12, 2012, 03:44:27 PM
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... it is “absolutely imperative” that all levels of government investigate “every aspect” of how the unarmed boy was shot.

This is absolutely ridiculous!  Why is the FBI involved?  Why must ALL levels of government get involved here?

 Cuase since the would be king has to energise the black vote.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 12, 2012, 05:24:40 PM
Wow...this (http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-04/69353440.pdf) is all they have?

The above link is to a pdf file of the affidavit from the FL prosecutor Angela Corey. If this is their case then she is setting herself up to be dumbass prosecutor of the year.

She is going with Martin's girlfriend's testimony about what she heard (not recorded) on the phone prior to the struggle.

She is going with Zimmerman saying "f**king punks" instead of what was originally thought to be "f**king coons" and then later "f**king cold."

She is going with Martin's mother identifying Martin as the one who was calling for help.

And she is claiming that Zimmerman attacked Martin rather than turning around and retreating when the dispatcher told him to stop pursuit.

If this is all she has...

Hoo boy!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 12, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
And they will likely get it as well - if that is what they want. Social engineering, social justice, "justice" for trayvon. They will do it if they have to tilt the Earth off its axis.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 12, 2012, 06:03:21 PM

Political justice for all.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 12, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
  He may not go to jail but they will ruin him financially.At which point he will sue all the news networks with the doctored up films and recording and wind up well off sometime in the future but meanwhile he has to go through hell and gone to please a bunch of racebaters with a president to elect.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 12, 2012, 06:55:23 PM
Wow...this (http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-04/69353440.pdf) is all they have?
. . .

If this is all she has...

Hoo boy!

Affidavit my ass. This is a statement by the prosecutor's office that could have been written by Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson's office.

The "facts" as seen in a light most favorable to the State. I don't care about any statements or "averments" in the "affidavit". Once the defense puts on their case showing that Zimmerman was sucker punched by Trayvon, the only issue of any legal importance was whether Zimmerman believed that his life was in danger as he lay on his back being beaten by the "victim."

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Janny on April 12, 2012, 07:37:23 PM
Wow...this (http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-04/69353440.pdf) is all they have?
. . .

If this is all she has...

Hoo boy!

Affidavit my ass. This is a statement by the prosecutor's office that could have been written by Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson's office.

The "facts" as seen in a light most favorable to the State. I don't care about any statements or "averments" in the "affidavit". Once the defense puts on their case showing that Zimmerman was sucker punched by Trayvon, the only issue of any legal importance was whether Zimmerman believed that his life was in danger as he lay on his back being beaten by the "victim."



There is a whole lot of assuming going on in that document. Most of it is based on the so-called witness that Martin was supposed to have been on the phone with. If this is all they've got, their case against Zimmerman has more holes than a Swiss cheese factory.

I am utterly amazed that the mother of Trayvon has just now come out and said she believes I was an accident. Maybe she has been advised that there is no way they can possibly convict him? I just don't know. This whole thing has been insane from the start. The worst part is that it is utterly impossible for Zimmerman to get a fair trial at this point.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2012, 08:01:46 PM
Actually I am surprised that crap wasn't written in crayon.

 ::)

If that is enough to get an indictment without a Grand Jury, then we have entered the freaking Twilight Zone where every American is at risk of malicious prosecution by any jackass anywhere on any trumped up charge!  Due process is dead, we have entered a de facto state of Napoleonic (ie-despotic) jurisprudence where one is presummed guilty as all hell and where innocence will be discouraged from being established.

Corey is soon to replace Nifong as the nations biggest legal moron.

Oh well, we are much closer to civil war now, the reset button will be hit hard soon enough...

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 12, 2012, 08:10:11 PM
Actually I am surprised that crap wasn't written in crayon.

 ::)

If that is enough to get an indictment without a Grand Jury, then we have entered the freaking Twilight Zone where every American is at risk of malicious prosecution by any jackass anywhere on any trumped up charge!  Due process is dead, we have entered a de facto state of Napoleonic (ie-despotic) jurisprudence where one is presummed guilty as all hell and where innocence will be discouraged from being established.

Corey is soon to replace Nifong as the nations biggest legal moron.

Oh well, we are much closer to civil war now, the reset button will be hit hard soon enough...



 This was a political deal hashed in a back room to get the nuts out of town.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 12, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
Alan Dershowitz agrees with me, that this document is a joke.

Link is to the HotAir post (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/12/dershowitz-the-charging-instrument-filed-against-george-zimmerman-is-unethical-and-will-never-make-it-past-a-judge/) and the video is at the bottom. Watch it. It's entertaining.

He says that she is either incompetent as a prosecutor for the way the document is written (he says it actually strengthens the defense's case for self defense) or she is incredibly unethical for over charging the defendant in order to force a plea to a lesser charge.

He says the judge should toss it out right away.

So, yeah, it may as well have been written in crayon.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 12, 2012, 08:53:19 PM
Alan Dershowitz agrees with me, that this document is a joke.

Link is to the HotAir post (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/12/dershowitz-the-charging-instrument-filed-against-george-zimmerman-is-unethical-and-will-never-make-it-past-a-judge/) and the video is at the bottom. Watch it. It's entertaining.

He says that she is either incompetent as a prosecutor for the way the document is written (he says it actually strengthens the defense's case for self defense) or she is incredibly unethical for over charging the defendant in order to force a plea to a lesser charge.

He says the judge should toss it out right away.

So, yeah, it may as well have been written in crayon.

 Like I said it's all about get the nuts out of town.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
I have to say in all honesty that Derhowitz has been spot on in all of his analysis of this case since it began.

It says something when someone regarded by the Left as one of their best and brightest is critical of how this case is being handled is not kowtowing to political expediency and willing to trash due process to appease people not connected to the case at all.  I'm sure the racial appeasers on the Left are writing Dershowitz off as an overzealous legal intellectual who just doesn't understand the black condition.  One might read anti-semetic bigotry in their dismissal of him, eh?  The typical intellectual Jewish jurist just doesn't get it!

The hardcore multi-culti/pc/diversity crowd must have their heads spinning in disbelief!

 ;D
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 12, 2012, 09:23:01 PM
Here is what Dershowitz said yesterday (http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/index.html?hpt=op_r1) (and it looks like it was written before the Murder 2 charge was made):


Quote
(CNN) -- On the basis of the evidence currently in the public record, one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him.

Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the special prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.

Media reports suggest that police found Zimmerman with grass stains on the back of his shirt, bloody bruises on the back of his head and other indicia that may support his contention that Trayvon Martin was banging his head against the ground when Zimmerman shot him.


There is a lot more, of course, at the link.


Quote
Though this statute is anything but a model of clarity, it does suggest that whoever "provokes" a deadly encounter has a heavy burden of justification in claiming self-defense. But the statute doesn't define "provokes," and that ambiguous word may hold the key to the outcome of this tragic case.

If provocation is limited to a physical assault, and if Zimmerman's account that Martin blindsided him with a punch is believed, then Zimmerman did not provoke the encounter. But if provocation includes following the victim and harassing him, then Zimmerman may well qualify as a provocateur. Moreover, a jury may believe that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation by grabbing Martin. This would almost certainly constitute provocation.

But to complicate matters further, even a provocateur has the legal right to defend himself under Florida law if he can't escape and if he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, as Zimmerman claims he was.

I am going to go on record right now and say that if this abortion of a case ever gets into a courtroom then Zimmerman is going to walk. He will then walk into the office of a good defamation lawyer, sue the living daylights out of NBC, ABC, CNN and the NYTs and retire to someplace in the Carribean.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
The race-baiting shakedown artist known as Jesse "Jackass" Jackson let the cat out of the bag - "….  We must not just settle for Zimmerman, we must repeal the Stand Your Ground law.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/we-must-repeal-the-stand-your-ground-law-jesse-jackson-tips-his-hand-after-zimmerman-arrest/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/we-must-repeal-the-stand-your-ground-law-jesse-jackson-tips-his-hand-after-zimmerman-arrest/)

Like I said earlier, in the face of black criminality, people (especially non-blacks incapable of understanding the black experience) have a duty to take what is perpetrated upon them and shut up about it.

Fat chance racist pig, that dog won't hunt!  But keep talking, perhaps the few out there unclear about your intentions will pick up on it!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2012, 09:32:51 PM
Sorry, Libertas...I accidentally hit the "modify" button and wiped out your post. My bad.

-trap
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 12, 2012, 09:33:31 PM
The race-baiting shakedown artist known as Jesse "Jackass" Jackson let the cat out of the bag - "….  We must not just settle for Zimmerman, we must repeal the Stand Your Ground law.”

Yeah, good luck with that. My guess is that Floridians like their gun laws just the way they are. You need look no further than the juxtaposition of that idiot's words with the visual of NBPs marching in the streets, demanding whitey's blood and offering bounties.

Again, good luck with that, asswipe.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 12, 2012, 09:43:34 PM
Cool, thanks for the fix Trap.

Yeah, this thing is not going away anytime soon no matter what.  I have a strong inkling there will be many more ridiculous statements by Leftists and apologists populating this thread!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 12, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
Cool, thanks for the fix Trap.

Yeah, this thing is not going away anytime soon no matter what.  I have a strong inkling there will be many more ridiculous statements by Leftists and apologists populating this thread!

No, I didn't fix it. I wiped it out. It's gone. I'm sorry.

I think it was about Martin's family going after Zimmerman in a civil suit if they get the criminal case thrown out or if he is acquitted.

I was going to say that he was going to be broke when the criminal case was over and he might be able to prevent them from attaching themselves to any judgement he gets in a civil suit against the media for defamation.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2012, 07:08:21 AM
Cool, thanks for the fix Trap.

Yeah, this thing is not going away anytime soon no matter what.  I have a strong inkling there will be many more ridiculous statements by Leftists and apologists populating this thread!

No, I didn't fix it. I wiped it out. It's gone. I'm sorry.

I think it was about Martin's family going after Zimmerman in a civil suit if they get the criminal case thrown out or if he is acquitted.

I was going to say that he was going to be broke when the criminal case was over and he might be able to prevent them from attaching themselves to any judgement he gets in a civil suit against the media for defamation.

Oh yeah, I did scribble something about that.  Dang, can't remember all of what I wanted to say, but, no biggie, I'm sure it will all fetch itself around here sometime!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 13, 2012, 07:14:30 AM
Oh I remember part of it now, I think I said something about a judge should toss the case out on Day One, but that even if the evidence (or lack thereof) led that direction the race-baiting industry and Democrat-Media Complex have so poisoned the atmosphere that the odds of getting a principled judge willing to take the heat and toss it out is probably pretty slim, so if I had to guess the criminal trial is going to go forward, but the going could be tough for Prosecutor Crayon.

But venue, discovery, jury selection...there are some pretty big events to cover before a trial can even start...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 13, 2012, 09:58:08 AM
I think Dershowitz is one of those "true believer" liberals, as opposed to the more radicalized Leftists who see everything as an expedient tool, an intermediate to be used in the pursuit of Marxist communism.  I still strongly disagree with the Dershowitz liberals, but they at least are not thoroughly disingenuous like the radicals. And I have news for Dershowitz and his flavor of liberals -- the radicals on their end of the spectrum have lapped their asses. Look at how much more stridently left wing the Democrat Party is now, compared to a few decades ago.  Dershowitz has also gotten a taste of the inherently anti-Jewish bigotry of the Left.

As for this case, Dershowitz seems to agree with what I postulated earlier, that this prosecutor has overcharged with the aim of reaching a plea agreement. She apparently believes this will (a) sate the bloodlust of the mobs, (b) give her political cover, and (c) give her notoriety as the prosecutor who stepped into the fray of a heated and complicated issue and saw to it that justice was done.  Hopelessly naive.

And the idea that the judge should throw it out, what would happen if the judge did that?  See the dichotomy the Left has established here? 1. Prosecute, convict, and sentence Zimmerman or 2. Bear the "responsibility" for what the mobs might do.

That's the state of jurisprudence now.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on April 13, 2012, 12:38:24 PM
I think Dershowitz is one of those "true believer" liberals, as opposed to the more radicalized Leftists ........

Isn't that like being kind of pregnant?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 13, 2012, 01:35:59 PM
I think Dershowitz is one of those "true believer" liberals, as opposed to the more radicalized Leftists ........

Isn't that like being kind of pregnant?

Probably.  There has to be a certain amount of self-delusion in those types. What else could explain American Jews being so overwhelmingly to the left politically? Especially when it's the Left doing everything they can to enable the destruction of Israel.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 13, 2012, 01:53:48 PM

Dershowitz has another quirk away from his NY brethren, he is a big supporter for Israel and
Jerusalem being the capital.  IIRC he supports blowing up Iran.  He also writes at the JP.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 15, 2012, 01:34:44 AM
Okay, so it looks like this story (the Zimmerman kills Martin story) may eventually lead to the end of Skittles as a product. Why you ask?

Go here. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129961/Artist-creates-portrait-Zimmerman-12-000-Skittles.html)

Quote
The sweet, colourful candy has become a symbol of Trayvon Martin, but now an artist has immortalised his shooter, George Zimmerman, in the candy Martin was carrying when he was killed.

Denver artist Andy Bell used more than 12,000 Skittles to create the likeness of Zimmerman’s now-infamous 2005 mug shot, using yellow, orange, red, green, and purple chews.

The 3-by-4-foot portrait was done by 31-year-old Andy Bell, an art student about to graduate from Metropolitan State College in Denver.

Mr Bell entitled the piece ‘Fear Itself.’ It now hangs in the RedLine Gallery in downtown Denver.

My state seems to go out of its way to do things that are embarrassing. Now you can add hanging this bullsh*t in a museum to that list:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/15/article-0-129996FE000005DC-548_306x423.jpg)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 15, 2012, 10:18:57 AM
So much for the Skillits.....now who's gonna put a picture of treyvon in a jar of IT?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 15, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
So much for the Skillits.....now who's gonna put a picture of treyvon in a jar of IT?

   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: predator on April 15, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
It will eventually come down to this:

"I am the Infidel (that your Imam warned about)" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYLvcb96KYo#)

COWBOYS & COMMUNISTS (under a cowgirl moon) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFKkSv6mcLc#)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on April 16, 2012, 06:50:47 AM
Neat vids. The music leaves something to be desired, but the lyrics kick ass......... ::cool::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 16, 2012, 07:18:02 AM
I kinda dig that second tune. "Let's play cowboys & communists". That's clever as hell, and catchy too.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: predator on April 16, 2012, 05:58:16 PM
Those vids are available on youtube. In the "Infidel" video he mentions youtube banning his video. It's called: "To Live or Die (For Virgins in the Sky). Tells you all you need to know about the religion of peace and the cowardice of Youtube.

I'm having a hard time getting it to play right now. I'm trying letting it buffer up first. Don't know if that will help or not. It's at JoeDanMedia.com
 (http://JoeDanMedia.com)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2012, 07:53:54 AM
Umm...

Somebody want to explain to me why this is allowed to fricken happen?!?!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/they-were-there-for-us-why-are-doj-peacemakers-helping-trayvon-martin-protesters/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/they-were-there-for-us-why-are-doj-peacemakers-helping-trayvon-martin-protesters/)

And the condemnation...is... ... ... nowhere to be heard...

No calls to de-fund CRS?  Nah, didn't think so.  Who but a RAAAAAAAAAAAACIST could advocate such a thing.

Once again, all our so-called leaders know how to do is to bend over and ask for another!

We are soooo screwed!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on April 18, 2012, 11:36:07 AM
We are soooo screwed!

Don't tell me you're shocked.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 18, 2012, 11:49:05 AM
We are soooo screwed!

Don't tell me you're shocked.

Not shocked...pissed is more like it!

 ::cussing::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2012, 08:41:58 AM
Nice exhibit for the trial...for the defense, not so much for idiot prosecutor -

(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/image-zimmerman1-270x151.jpg)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/abc-shows-bloodied-image-of-zimmermans-head-on-night-of-trayvon-martin-shooting/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/abc-shows-bloodied-image-of-zimmermans-head-on-night-of-trayvon-martin-shooting/)

Yeah, that Tayvon, he's a sweet boy, really peaceful, honest!

/
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 20, 2012, 10:52:45 AM

That image will be inadmissible as evidence.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 20, 2012, 11:06:18 AM
I said it at the time of the prosecutor's charges being filed and I stand by it. This is a very weak case for the prosecution.

They have very little.

They do not have a witness to the killing.
They do not have a confession of wrong doing.
They do not have a sinister motive.
They have a 911 recording that helps the defense.
They have a dead body.
They have an angry bunch of racist activists.

That's all they have.

The defense has the only live witness to the killing.
The defense has a written statement from the shooter that has not been contradicted by other witnesses or by evidence.
The defense has the law on their side.

It's possible that the jury (if they have the option) might return a manslaughter conviction. They will not return a guilty verdict for murder. There is just no way that is going to happen.

Zimmerman will walk. And he will walk right into an attorney's office and begin filing defamation lawsuits against the media. And he will win big.

I hope that he also sues Sharpton, Jackson and the NBPs and I hope he sues them out of existence.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2012, 11:23:18 AM
Don't forget, he needs to sue the Holder and the DoJ as well, as conspirators to this mischaracterization, and as far as the MFM goes, wasn't it CNN & ABC that doctored most of the crap, they especially should be made bankrupt!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2012, 11:32:36 AM
The latest - didn't know Martin was unarmed...

http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-says-sorry-trayvon-martins-death-150227466.html (http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-says-sorry-trayvon-martins-death-150227466.html)

And this sucks, presumed guilty as hell up front -

A judge says George Zimmerman can be released on $150,000 bail as he awaits trial for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester set several conditions Friday for Zimmerman’s release. He cannot have any firearms, drink alcohol or use drugs and must observe a curfew.

http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/04/20/zimmermans-wife-my-husband-is-not-a-violent-person/ (http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/04/20/zimmermans-wife-my-husband-is-not-a-violent-person/)

Drugs, illegal, duh!  But the rest?  WTF?  Are people not presumes innocent until a trial says otherwise?  No prior felonies, not a flight risk, surrendered to authorities/wasn't caught "COPS"-style...wtf?!

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 20, 2012, 11:52:09 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Zimmerman-bloody-head (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Zimmerman-bloody-head)

(http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Zimmerman%20Head.png)

Image taken 3 minutes after he shot Martin.


Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 20, 2012, 12:10:38 PM
And here comes the media with their wish-fulfillment-in-the-form-of-rhetorical-question: Is Trayvon Martin Shooting Forcing Gun Rights Activists to Retreat? (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0419/Is-Trayvon-Martin-shooting-forcing-gun-rights-activists-to-retreat)

That's one of the primary goals here. The gunwalking to Mexico didn't work, so they move onto something else. The Left never quits, they never accept defeat. That's why we are going to have to eventually and inevitably "get it on" because it is impossible to coexist with them.

Gun rights have nothing to do with this case. A homicide is either justifiable or it is not.  There is nothing about concealed carry or castle doctrine laws that somehow turn criminal homicide into justifiable homicide.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2012, 12:44:09 PM
True G, but that distinction is immaterial to the aims of the Democrat-Media Complex, that any law-abiding citizen has a right to carry and protect themselves is a clear and present danger to government control of the people and all of their affairs.

The truth needs to be shoved into the faces of the statists and their media puppets!

I want them sh*tting themselves in fear of We the People, righteous, unapologetic and armed!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 20, 2012, 01:54:34 PM

Via : Big Government (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Dershowitz-prosecution-immoral)

Alan Dershowitz ... stated upon release of the arrest affidavit that it was “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”
...
After the release of the photo,, [he told] Breitbart News that if the prosecutors did have the photo and didn’t mention it in the affidavit, that would constitute a “grave ethical violation,” since affidavits are supposed to contain “all relevant information.”
...
“An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie.”
More (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Dershowitz-prosecution-immoral)

HT: Zip (http://weaselzippers.us/)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 20, 2012, 02:58:55 PM
Well, it did make it past a judge.  Nobody really wants to handle this hot potato that is George Zimmerman.  If he gets a fair trial and is determined not-guilty, it'll be the shock of my life.

The current handing-off kind of reminds me of Congress voting for, and Bush's signing of, the since-overturned campaign finance law.  Each thought the next would kill it, with Bush counting on the USSC to do so.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on April 20, 2012, 08:24:13 PM
Well, it did make it past a judge.  Nobody really wants to handle this hot potato that is George Zimmerman.  If he gets a fair trial and is determined not-guilty, it'll be the shock of my life.

The current handing-off kind of reminds me of Congress voting for, and Bush's signing of, the since-overturned campaign finance law.  Each thought the next would kill it, with Bush counting on the USSC to do so.



Hold on a sec. The judge at he first apperance (referred to as Initial Appearance under NC Rules of Criminal Procedure) is simply to make sure defendant understands the charges, has an attoney, and bail is set. Don't know about Florida procedure, but the next level is the Probable Cause Hearing in NCRCP, and at that hearing, the defendtant is allowed to test he legal sufficiency of the State's case. IOW,the next hearing in Florda is where the legal sufficiency of the affidavt wll be tested.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on April 20, 2012, 09:58:47 PM
If he gets a fair trial and is determined not-guilty, it'll be the shock of my life.

If he is found guilty of murder it will be the shock of my life. I will be mildly surprised if the case isn't thrown out before it gets to the trial stage. They have no case. Maybe...just maybe...a jury will find him guilty of manslaughter but even that is a stretch.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 20, 2012, 10:46:06 PM

Dershowitz wants in this game and the Zimmerman should take advantage
of his interest.  Alan will get his Gold Star and Zimmerman will go pass GO.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 20, 2012, 11:43:57 PM

Dershowitz wants in this game and the Zimmerman should take advantage
of his interest.  Alan will get his Gold Star and Zimmerman will go pass GO.


If Alan doesn't wise up about his company down on the left end of the spectrum, his gold star is going to be the one on his arm band.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 21, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
AlfonZO Rachel on "the Trayvons the left forgot".

Zo on the Trayvons the left forgot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9afgt-qpWDo#ws)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on April 21, 2012, 08:00:01 PM
AlfonZO Rachel on "the Trayvons the left forgot".

Zo on the Trayvons the left forgot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9afgt-qpWDo#ws)


Ouch......
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 21, 2012, 08:27:56 PM
  Great find!!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 21, 2012, 09:01:40 PM
 ::curtsy4::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 22, 2012, 04:47:24 PM


So the new stance from the left - Zimmerman should be convicted of murder if nothing else but to avoid race riots. Yeah, that's right - if he doesn't just give in and confess for the good of the country, he should be 'lynched' whether he's guilty or not in order to appease the mob. (http://pjmedia.com/blog/daily-beast-columnist-politely-calls-for-george-zimmermans-lynching/?singlepage=true)

Quote
Daily Beast columnist Mansfield Frazier has turned the concept of “justice” upside down, arguing that George Zimmerman should be convicted in the shooting of Trayvon Martin merely to avoid race riots.

The case was already heavily politicized even before prosecutor Angela Corey  filed a charge of second-degree murder against Zimmerman based upon an extremely thin affidavit. The charge was a shock to most legal experts because of the incredibly high burden of proof for a murder charge that none of the known evidence comes close to supporting.

It was in this toxic political environment that Frazier filed a remarkable op-ed titled “Trial of George Zimmerman Could Trigger Another Rodney King.” The article isn’t incisive in its dissection of the facts of the case. It doesn’t offer cogent analysis of the legal strategies that the prosecution and defense might try to use if the case proceeds to trial. It doesn’t caution fellow journalists to be careful about jumping to conclusions surrounding the case, a low-hanging fruit for any columnist with a hint of competence.
Advertisement

Instead Frazier offers the extraordinary advice that despite a critically — perhaps criminally — flawed prosecution, George Zimmerman should just cop a guilty plea anyway to assuage his violence-prone critics in the black community in an attempt to keep the violent mobs at bay:
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 22, 2012, 04:59:35 PM
And it's been engineered that way from the beginning. This was all hatched when the Sandra Fluke "War on Women" meme failed to catch fire.

There is no justice system, there is no rule of law. Everything is political, everything is calculated to advance leftism.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 22, 2012, 05:05:12 PM
And let's not kid ourselves. The people doing this don't want Zimmerman convicted. They want the race riots. That's why they're floating the idea that a failure to convict will result in such. They're creating a prophecy to be fulfilled - an expectation to be lived up to.

Nothing would serve Obama better than Blacks and Whites killing one another in the streets. Little else but the assuredness that they will be able to bring this about explains the brazenness with which they've advanced their radical agenda.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 22, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
@Glock & Priest:

/agree
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 22, 2012, 06:40:38 PM

It's a win/win, if FL pursues justice then they get to riot,
if FL gives in to the Jesse Justice Brothers extortion they win.

If those or the two options justice with a side order of riot is in order.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 23, 2012, 09:30:27 AM
The bloodlust stirred up by the Democrat-Media Complex and their expert race-baiting thugs is beginning to bear its evil fruit -

Twitter lynch mob: George Zimmerman is out on bail? Let’s kill him!

Taylor
@UBlow_TaNashia Ima kill zimmerman myself *loads semi* where he at
22 Apr 12

http://twitchy.com/2012/04/23/twitter-lynch-mob-now-that-george-zimmerman-is-out-on-bail-lets-kill-him/ (http://twitchy.com/2012/04/23/twitter-lynch-mob-now-that-george-zimmerman-is-out-on-bail-lets-kill-him/)

Gosh, I wonder what ethnicity "TaNashia" is?  Sounds like the perfect brain-dead plantation negroe willing to act in the name of racial justice, eh?

Reap/Sow.

 ;)

I guess @UBlow indicates her profession and/or recreational drug of choice...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on April 23, 2012, 11:32:19 AM
Im(m)a?  Is that monkey speak for something?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 23, 2012, 11:36:05 AM
Im(m)a?  Is that monkey speak for something?

Urban dictionary -

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ima (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ima)

I think this one came from da hood!   ::)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 23, 2012, 12:26:10 PM
Same origin as "noam sayin'".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 23, 2012, 12:34:20 PM
If Zimmerman is harmed, the race war is on. If Zimmerman goes free, the race war is on. If Zimmerman is convicted, the sheep will accept it, and the Black racists will take it as a sign that their tactic worked. Race war, on. Any way you slice it, it seems to me that the question is not whether racial divisiveness will escalate, but when, how, and under what circumstances. The election of Obama guaranteed that race relations will be set back indefinitely. The progress made in healing the injustice of slavery has been undone by him to one degree or another.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 23, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
If Zimmerman is harmed, the race war is on. If Zimmerman goes free, the race war is on. If Zimmerman is convicted, the sheep will accept it, and the Black racists will take it as a sign that their tactic worked. Race war, on. Any way you slice it, it seems to me that the question is not whether racial divisiveness will escalate, but when, how, and under what circumstances. The election of Obama guaranteed that race relations will be set back indefinitely. The progress made in healing the injustice of slavery has been undone by him to one degree or another.

I wouldn't argue any of that.  But, in the SHTF race I still think the economic meltdown scenario is running ahead of the pack.

I'll put my constantly-devalued fiat money on it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 23, 2012, 01:02:09 PM
If Zimmerman is harmed, the race war is on. If Zimmerman goes free, the race war is on. If Zimmerman is convicted, the sheep will accept it, and the Black racists will take it as a sign that their tactic worked. Race war, on. Any way you slice it, it seems to me that the question is not whether racial divisiveness will escalate, but when, how, and under what circumstances. The election of Obama guaranteed that race relations will be set back indefinitely. The progress made in healing the injustice of slavery has been undone by him to one degree or another.

I wouldn't argue any of that.  But, in the SHTF race I still think the economic meltdown scenario is running ahead of the pack.

I'll put my constantly-devalued fiat money on it.

That's still running, but in the background right now.  Zimmerman's the highly visible and current excuse for chaos.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 23, 2012, 02:32:09 PM
If Zimmerman is harmed, the race war is on. If Zimmerman goes free, the race war is on. If Zimmerman is convicted, the sheep will accept it, and the Black racists will take it as a sign that their tactic worked. Race war, on. Any way you slice it, it seems to me that the question is not whether racial divisiveness will escalate, but when, how, and under what circumstances. The election of Obama guaranteed that race relations will be set back indefinitely. The progress made in healing the injustice of slavery has been undone by him to one degree or another.

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What is Mr. Frazier really afraid of? Does he believe whites will burn down the cities and lynch every black person in sight if Mr. Zimmerman is convicted? C'mon. He's peddling the standard warning should the mob not get their way. Said plainly, he's offering "hot racial war"—get it? Hot? Burn baby burn?—against whites if Mr. Zimmerman's not do time, without a trial, thereby confirming what's come to be known as the black understanding of justice, to wit: bad outcomes are always somebody else's fault, therefore somebody has to pay and that somebody is "whitey".

... Should Mr. Zimmerman be acquited, or found to be in the right—again, or not volunteer to be imprisoned for defending himself, Mr. Frazier spoke up unasked and offered a 'hot race war' as revenge. Hot racial war. No ambivalence. No weasel-wording.

This has been on the table for a long while now—"no justice, no peace" as they put it, meaning social justice, the name injustice goes by, and there's been no backing down on their end. This, unwisely, is doubling down. It's always the same: short term clever, long term stupid. Mr. Frazier hasn't thought this through. Martin King was a violent man personally but he got it right when he told his more militant followers to keep the meaning of the word minority in mind. Being 13% of the population is not good odds should the check Mr. Frazier has written be cashed. Does the race industry understand white people don't actually believe in zombies but, oddly, are arming themselves at a record rateart-link-symbol-tiny-grey-arrow-only.gif? Does Mr. Frazier understand he may be leaning on an open door? The page of history always turns and no man can know what will be written next. A word of caution here. As military people say, no plan of battle survives contact with the enemy. He has revealed himself willing to put aside all other avenues and pull us into a 'hot racial war'. But how willing is he to be surprised?

Nothing's forever. This will all end but it's getting more difficult by the minute to see how it ends well. No honorable person talks themselves and others into racial war. Mr. Frazier believes he speaks to a wide consensus, and he probably does. Should his 'hot racial war' threat be acted upon, the players change and a whole new set of events is put in motion. He and his audience are badly advised to call up those players. If personal integrity won't stay their hand, they should take one more peek at the spreadsheet. These are just observations. There's nothing good in this for anybody. Mr. Frazier has put the ultimatum plainly. Should it be called and the militants mobilized, only the insane will join them. As always, the best advice is: stay away from crowds.

http://www.woodpilereport.com/ (http://www.woodpilereport.com/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 23, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
Yes. Stay away from crowds. And keep a long arm in your trunk or behind your seat. Also remember your most potent weapon is the 2-3 tons of steel at your command. Don't let yourself get Reginald Denny'd.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 23, 2012, 02:45:45 PM
Hmmm.  May be time to put the carbine in the cab's overhead gun rack.

Yep.  Think so.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 23, 2012, 02:56:42 PM
I work in MidTown, Keith (Koran) Ellison's neighborhood...   ::)

I gotta stash more than my carry piece...   ::cussing::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 23, 2012, 03:34:41 PM
If it gets down to that sort of situation, like a spontaneous LA Riots scenario, that's when the Winchester 1300 comes out of the back. #4 buck, 7 rounds.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: benb61 on April 23, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
The state of Florida needs to put signs up all over stating "Anyone caught vandalizing in the state (especially in a crowd) will be shot and killed on sight."  They need to announce it on TV and Radio (emergency broadcast system would be good for this), and in print.  Then let them riot.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 23, 2012, 08:19:36 PM

Do y'all have many Koreans down there? 
They did a good job in California.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 23, 2012, 08:35:53 PM
Do y'all have many Koreans down there? 
They did a good job in California.

Nope. Lots of Cubans and Haitians though.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 23, 2012, 08:45:10 PM

Cubans have a pretty strong set of attitudes, what about the Haitians?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on April 24, 2012, 11:16:37 AM
‘JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON’: ALABAMA MAN IN CRITICAL CONDITION AFTER MOB BEATING (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/justice-for-trayvon-alabama-man-in-critical-condition-after-mob-beating/)

I will move this entry in the thread after it comes out the perps were Korean.  After all the perps weren't described, and we really can't hazard a guess as to the description, can we?  ::stirpot::  I mean, come on, Koreans play basketball too, and would certainly jump around like agitated monkeys if someone wanted to drive down the street, right?

Right?  ::thinking::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 24, 2012, 12:07:27 PM
And of course nobody knows nothing, nobody saw anything...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on April 24, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
‘JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON’: ALABAMA MAN IN CRITICAL CONDITION AFTER MOB BEATING (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/justice-for-trayvon-alabama-man-in-critical-condition-after-mob-beating/)

I will move this entry in the thread after it comes out the perps were Korean.  After all the perps weren't described, and we really can't hazard a guess as to the description, can we?  ::stirpot::  I mean, come on, Koreans play basketball too, and would certainly jump around like agitated monkeys if someone wanted to drive down the street, right?

Right?  ::thinking::


So let me understand......The neighborhood beat him up because he said something to thier kids?

The race baiters gotta be smiling real big today.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 24, 2012, 12:59:11 PM
Cubans have a pretty strong set of attitudes, what about the Haitians?

Yeah, they're pretty abrasive as a rule CO. Sad but true.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: benb61 on April 24, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
‘JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON’: ALABAMA MAN IN CRITICAL CONDITION AFTER MOB BEATING (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/justice-for-trayvon-alabama-man-in-critical-condition-after-mob-beating/)

I will move this entry in the thread after it comes out the perps were Korean.  After all the perps weren't described, and we really can't hazard a guess as to the description, can we?  ::stirpot::  I mean, come on, Koreans play basketball too, and would certainly jump around like agitated monkeys if someone wanted to drive down the street, right?

Right?  ::thinking::

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Owens’ sister, Ashley Parker, saw the attack. “It was the scariest thing I have ever witnessed.” Parker says 20 people, all African American, attacked her brother on the front porch of his home, using “brass buckles, paint cans and anything they could get their hands on.”

They weren't Koreans!!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 24, 2012, 05:38:07 PM
And they weren't all men either - "women in dresses".

How much more of this sht are we going to swallow.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on April 24, 2012, 07:35:35 PM
And they weren't all men either - "women in dresses".

How much more of this sht are we going to swallow.

Emboldened by the race baiter in chief. Emboldened by Jessie and other so called black leaders who insert reverend in front of thier names. Emboldened by holder. Frankly, emboldened by stupidity.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 24, 2012, 07:47:13 PM
@PD: Quite right. People have been given a blank check to cash from Both Obama and Holder and reassured by the national media that's its quite alright to cash it.

I still think that anyone that has been hurt (or the families of those that may end up getting killed in the future) as a result of this ought to sue the crap out of those media outlets that can be proven to have actively taken place in fanning the flames of racial violence.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on April 24, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
@PD: Quite right. People have been given a blank check to cash from Both Obama and Holder and reassured by the national media that's its quite alright to cash it.

I still think that anyone that has been hurt (or the families of those that may end up getting killed in the future) as a result of this ought to sue the crap out of those media outlets that can be proven to have actively taken place in fanning the flames of racial violence.

I believe we may see some lawsuits, but to what avail? The holder justice( what a joke) dept will sweep it away because trayvon looks like obamas family.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 24, 2012, 08:02:18 PM
Cubans have a pretty strong set of attitudes, what about the Haitians?

Yeah, they're pretty abrasive as a rule CO. Sad but true.

 Just rude loud mouths for the most part.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 24, 2012, 08:31:40 PM
True enough JF. They seem to present themselves in extremes (at least in my limited experience). You either meet some really abrasive and downright mean Cubans/Haitians or you meet the exact polar opposite. It seems rare to find them in the middle ground.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 24, 2012, 09:33:42 PM
True enough JF. They seem to present themselves in extremes (at least in my limited experience). You either meet some really abrasive and downright mean Cubans/Haitians or you meet the exact polar opposite. It seems rare to find them in the middle ground.

 I much prefer Cunas over Haitians there seem to be more idiots among the Haitians.But I've had no problems bowing them off.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 24, 2012, 09:35:20 PM
True enough JF. They seem to present themselves in extremes (at least in my limited experience). You either meet some really abrasive and downright mean Cubans/Haitians or you meet the exact polar opposite. It seems rare to find them in the middle ground.

   I prefer Cubans over Haitians they tend to piss me off and I have no problem blowing them off.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Damn_Lucky on April 25, 2012, 06:25:48 PM
They arested one in Alabama case.

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/04/25/could-be-obamas-son-career-criminal-terry-rawls-arrested-in-matthew-owens-beating-video/?utm_source=FAM_Blog&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+FireAndreaMitchell+%28Fire+Andrea+Mitchell (http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/04/25/could-be-obamas-son-career-criminal-terry-rawls-arrested-in-matthew-owens-beating-video/?utm_source=FAM_Blog&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+FireAndreaMitchell+%28Fire+Andrea+Mitchell)!+Exposing+Liberal+bias+cause+the+MSM+doesn%27t+have+to.%29

19 to go
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2012, 07:27:50 PM
Whitey should riot and kill people, maybe then whitey will get some respect and some justice, eh?

Is that the lesson the Left, the Democrats, the Media and the race-baiters are sending?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 25, 2012, 07:31:08 PM
Whitey should riot and kill people, maybe then whitey will get some respect and some justice, eh?

Is that the lesson the Left, the Democrats, the Media and the race-baiters are sending?

 I can see that in the near future and in Florida.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2012, 07:34:46 PM
Whitey should riot and kill people, maybe then whitey will get some respect and some justice, eh?

Is that the lesson the Left, the Democrats, the Media and the race-baiters are sending?

 I can see that in the near future and in Florida.

It's sick, they really want a race war and blood in the streets.  Nothing, I mean nothing justifies the vigilantism and wreckless rheotric the Left is pushing.  Nothing!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 25, 2012, 08:22:36 PM
Whitey should riot and kill people, maybe then whitey will get some respect and some justice, eh?

Is that the lesson the Left, the Democrats, the Media and the race-baiters are sending?

 I can see that in the near future and in Florida.

It's sick, they really want a race war and blood in the streets.  Nothing, I mean nothing justifies the vigilantism and wreckless rheotric the Left is pushing.  Nothing!

 They don't believe that whites will ever stand up to them.It's been ther way every time,they riot,burn and loot and kill and nothing happens. If you get a bunch of the good old boys pissed off down here it could be a real problem for them and a real race war.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2012, 08:31:51 PM
Whitey should riot and kill people, maybe then whitey will get some respect and some justice, eh?

Is that the lesson the Left, the Democrats, the Media and the race-baiters are sending?

 I can see that in the near future and in Florida.

It's sick, they really want a race war and blood in the streets.  Nothing, I mean nothing justifies the vigilantism and wreckless rheotric the Left is pushing.  Nothing!

 They don't believe that whites will ever stand up to them.It's been ther way every time,they riot,burn and loot and kill and nothing happens. If you get a bunch of the good old boys pissed off down here it could be a real problem for them and a real race war.

I cannot say there is not precedence for submission JF, but I agree they are playing with fire, and we are talking about violence here, not submitting to city bureacrats over mowing your yard.  I honestly think these people don't care what happens.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2012, 08:34:59 PM
Huh, lookie here, more info on the Zimmerman clan...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 25, 2012, 09:40:33 PM
Quote

But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman's past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting.

Quote

"Let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm black, OK?" the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. "There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood," she said. "That's why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin."

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 26, 2012, 08:03:14 AM
Good witness for the defense I'd say.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 26, 2012, 10:53:59 AM
This latest article by Reuters is the most complete and unbiased look at the story I've seen. One has to ask themselves what their motivation is for allowing the truth to be told now. Perhaps their role is now to allow truth to create the narrative that will justify Zimmerman's acquittal for those predisposed to see him as innocent, so that when he is released, the race war will have two equally agitated sides.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 26, 2012, 11:30:03 AM
A chilling thought IDP.

Then there is this, I have not seen this comparison tried, perhaps they are holding it in reserve, but this article does a good job documenting the differences.

Something to keep in mind anyway.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/what-if-george-zimmerman-were-black-liberals-think-theyve-found-the-answer-in-georgia/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/what-if-george-zimmerman-were-black-liberals-think-theyve-found-the-answer-in-georgia/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 26, 2012, 11:49:07 AM

If the liberals think justice wasn't done in Georgia they need to pony up some
money so he can plea for a retrial.  That is what they want isn't it, justice for all?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 26, 2012, 11:56:55 AM
Maybe they've suddenly grown a conscience, realized that Zimmerman is actually a democrat and decided that they can't just throw the guy to the wolves?

Naaa! Of course not...they would eat their own young if it made even the least point for their side.

Maybe they've seen the error of their ways, that they completely caused racial tensions possibly leading to a race war and people have ended up in the hospital as a direct result of their idiocy?

Naaa! Of course not...they lie regularly about equally weighty subjects without regard to who may or may not get hurt in the process.

Alas, I have to conclude that Priest is correct or at the least, that they are seeing some other politically viable reason to suddenly 'see the light' and start publishing the truth. After all, what harm could it do to them? The actual racial damage has already been done and now that that genie is out of the bottle there's no putting it back.  ::pokeineye::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 26, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
Quote

that they are seeing some other politically viable reason to suddenly 'see the light'


Could it be the light of litigation? 
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 26, 2012, 12:36:49 PM
I'd say CO, that you may be on to something there. Of course, sucking up now won't blunt the litigation, but it may tug on the heartstrings of their sycophantic bootlicking followers, turning what is otherwise a huge PR disaster into a mild PR headache.

To me though, they're still just a bunch of megalomanical pricks.   ::cussing::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 27, 2012, 11:47:58 AM
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/26/second-producer-fired-in-zimmerman-911-call-edit/ (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/26/second-producer-fired-in-zimmerman-911-call-edit/)

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There has been a second firing at NBC over the misleading edit of George Zimmerman’s 911 call. A report published yesterday afternoon by the Miami Herald identifies reporter/producer Jeff Burnside as the individual responsible for the edits which appeared in an NBC6 news story on March 19th and again on March 20th.

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Burnside, 52, won several regional Emmy awards and was known for his investigative reports and coverage of environmental issues. Named “Top TV Reporter” by the New Times in 2007, he is on the board of directors of the Society of Environmental Journalists.

Q-U-I-E-T-L-Y fired...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 27, 2012, 11:58:40 AM

He's now available to become one of Obama's environmental experts.
It's either a promotion or under the bus and he's not under it.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 27, 2012, 02:40:55 PM
Yeah, if roles reversed, the firings would be loud, public and replayed on the news 24/7/365 through election day.

 ::cussing::  MFM bastards!

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on April 27, 2012, 05:53:17 PM
Still don't know the name of the first guy, do we?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on April 27, 2012, 06:10:18 PM
Not that I'm aware of Pan.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on May 01, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
Why Couldn't Marissa Alexander Stand Her Ground In Florida (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/05/why-couldnt-marissa-alexander-stand-her-ground-florida/51775/)

The Atlantic Wire
By: Alexander Abad-Santos

Looks like the media is stirring up crap again...

This is the story in its entirety:

Quote
What happened to Marissa Alexander sure sounds a lot like 'standing your ground': her abusive husband came after her, choked her, and when she finally broke free, she grabbed a gun fired a single warning shot into ceiling ... so why is she set to serve 20 years in jail?

Well, we imagine her prosecutor Angela Corey (who's also charging George Zimmerman) and her team, have the unfulfilling answers. The Florida Times Union's Charles Broward reported on April 21, "A judge denied [Alexander] immunity in a Stand Your Ground hearing. And after a jury found her guilty, she faces a mandatory term of 20 years in prison." Yes, there's the rage-inducing fact that Zimmerman who allegedly pursued and killed Trayvon Martin was allowed to walk free that night while Alexander is going to spend 20 years of her life in prison for a single warning shot. But it's also complex in that, those seeking justice for Trayvon Martin may have to side with a prosecutor who denied Alexander's (and the NAACP's) plea for a "stand your ground" ruling, like the one that was initially afforded to Zimmerman.

"There's a double standard with stand your ground," says Isaiah Rumlin, president of the Jacksonville Chapter of the NAACP. "The law is applied differently between African-Americans and whites who are involved in these types of cases." As Time's Touré points out, "there is one last sliver of hope left for Alexander: the court will soon hear arguments for a retrial." Jacksonville's News 4 added yesterday, "Judge James Daniel set a post-trial motions hearing for 8:30 a.m. Thursday. Daniel said if the motions are denied, she could be sentenced as soon as next week."

So what the 'author' of this 'piece' expects us all to believe is:

1) A woman is caught in an abusive relationship and in the midst of being assaulted she;
2) fires a shot from a gun, into the ceiling...
3) ...and for that she is facing a 20 year prison term.

As you have no doubt read, the author goes on to rail against the Trayvon shooting, etc citing their belief that the law in Florida is applied differently to members of different ethnic backgrounds.

Hogwash I say! There is obviously much missing from this story because you do not get 20 years in jail for firing a round into the ceiling. Period.

This is simply another attempt by the media to incite racial violence.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 01, 2012, 02:58:27 PM
Race wars, yeah, how will that work out for people?

Stupid people shouldn't play with matches and gasoline...

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 01, 2012, 07:11:42 PM
Race wars, yeah, how will that work out for people?

Stupid people shouldn't play with matches and gasoline...

 ::outrage::

 I think they should!!Let them get burned for once and that might cure this crap once and for all.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2012, 07:31:20 AM
Race wars, yeah, how will that work out for people?

Stupid people shouldn't play with matches and gasoline...

 ::outrage::

 I think they should!!Let them get burned for once and that might cure this crap once and for all.

If they only hurt themselves, I am all for that!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2012, 11:27:50 AM
NBC fired another clown guilty of editing Zimmerman 9-11 tape...her punishment (and the others as well) should be charges of willful incitement of race riots and be sent to rot in the dankest federal pens available!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/third-employee-fired-after-another-edited-george-zimmerman-911-tape-surfaces/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/third-employee-fired-after-another-edited-george-zimmerman-911-tape-surfaces/)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on May 05, 2012, 07:32:26 PM
I thought this was a very good read and it dissected the situation involving this manufactured event very well. In truth all of us here already knew/know all of this, but it helps to read it laid out so well I think. (http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/trayvon_and_zimmerman_the_structure_and_elements_of_a_disinformation_campaign.html)

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Endgame

As the momentum of the story began to slow, the media focus shifted from the leaking narrative to related but more useful topics: the status of the legal case; the ongoing rallies and demands for "justice"; the extent of white racism in America; proposed legal changes; new white-on-black attacks; and, as always, the impure motives of those who resist the media's political agenda.

We can expect no apologies for all the dishonest reporting, or any serious media analysis of the disinformation campaign itself.  Leftist activists are exempt from "investigative journalism."

Instead, the Trayvon campaign will be leveraged to support other objectives, such as:

    Promoting gun control
    Weakening self-defense laws
    Expanding hate crime and hate speech laws
    Supporting reparations and other forms of special treatment for blacks
    Energizing leftist political activism during an election year
    Justifying and encouraging black-on-white violence, civil unrest, and riots
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 07, 2012, 07:32:30 AM
Hand in hand with F&F, Agenda 21...it just on and on and on...

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on May 07, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
LINK (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ag-eric-holder-invokes-trayvon-martin-case-speech-detroit-naacp)

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"This (violence) is an issue that has -– rightly -– garnered significant national attention in recent months, as our nation has struggled to make sense of the tragic shooting death of a Florida teenager named Trayvon Martin," Holder said. "As this case moves through the legal system, Justice Department officials will continue to communicate closely with state and local authorities to ensure that community concerns are heard, tensions are alleviated, and – as with every investigation at every level – appropriate actions are guided by the facts and the law."

I know it doesn't need to be said to this crowd. But it's pretty dang bad when the 'top cop' in the country stoops to the level of race baiting. It is definitive proof that he has zero integrity and should not be a 'cop' at all much less the 'top cop'. This guy deserves jail time.

::gaah::  ::rockethrow::  ::gaah::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 07, 2012, 09:33:22 PM
LINK (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ag-eric-holder-invokes-trayvon-martin-case-speech-detroit-naacp)

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"This (violence) is an issue that has -– rightly -– garnered significant national attention in recent months, as our nation has struggled to make sense of the tragic shooting death of a Florida teenager named Trayvon Martin," Holder said. "As this case moves through the legal system, Justice Department officials will continue to communicate closely with state and local authorities to ensure that community concerns are heard, tensions are alleviated, and – as with every investigation at every level – appropriate actions are guided by the facts and the law."

I know it doesn't need to be said to this crowd. But it's pretty dang bad when the 'top cop' in the country stoops to the level of race baiting. It is definitive proof that he has zero integrity and should not be a 'cop' at all much less the 'top cop'. This guy deserves jail time.

::gaah::  ::rockethrow::  ::gaah::

"Struggled to make sense"?  What I struggle to make sense of is why this guy is still in office and not in jail on contempt charges.

They keep sowing the wind of this race sht, they are gonna reap the whirlwind.  Simon Says.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 07, 2012, 11:53:39 PM

They are full of it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Conservative RWNJ on May 08, 2012, 10:03:47 AM
I am new here  - not gunna read over 20 pages of posts ...

but I bet a buck to your donut that ...

no one has pointed a finger at the parents and placed blame where it began!

TRUST THIS:

IF my boy were to be suspended from school ...

FACT IS:
My boy is in eight grade and just passed end of year math test for tenth grade algebra!  ::bustamove::

Yeah - I am a parent - and better than Trayvon's parents
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 10:38:11 AM

no one has pointed a finger at the parents and placed blame where it began!

And that would be because there is no evidence that there is any blame to be placed on the parents.

If you had bothered to read the posts in this thread, one of the things that you would have seen is that we have (most of us) consistently refused to assign blame absent evidence and testimony. It is next to impossible at this time to actually know what happened because the only living witness is the shooter. We may never know. The circumstantial evidence that we do know about seems to vindicate the shooter. The trial will either confirm this or not.

The parents have lost a son and that is, regardless of what you might think, a tragedy for them. The fact of the matter is that no matter how well you raise a child, they are independent people who make their own decisions, take their own actions and sometimes those decisions and actions are inexplicable. That is the folly of youth.

I will give the parents credit, though, for not allowing themselves to be used by the MFM anymore than they have.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 08, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
...I will give the parents credit, though, for not allowing themselves to be used by the MFM anymore than they have.

I have a mixed response to this, because yes, when directly questioned, the parents seems to want to distance themselves from the racial aspects injected by the race-pimps. But when push comes to shove, they are surrounded at every press event by those same race-pimps, and are demanding the same thing - justice for Trayvon - as if only a conviction will equal justice.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 10:48:39 AM
...I will give the parents credit, though, for not allowing themselves to be used by the MFM anymore than they have.

I have a mixed response to this, because yes, when directly questioned, the parents seems to want to distance themselves from the racial aspects injected by the race-pimps. But when push comes to shove, they are surrounded at every press event by those same race-pimps, and are demanding the same thing - justice for Trayvon - as if only a conviction will equal justice.

I, too, have been disappointed with the fact that they are allowing the poverty pimps to share their stage. But, given the circumstances, they have been remarkably restrained in what they have actually said. And for that I give them credit.

But, as I have said from the very beginning, I will wait for the jury to pass judgement on this. We know what we know but we don't know what we don't know.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 08, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
...I will give the parents credit, though, for not allowing themselves to be used by the MFM anymore than they have.

I have a mixed response to this, because yes, when directly questioned, the parents seems to want to distance themselves from the racial aspects injected by the race-pimps. But when push comes to shove, they are surrounded at every press event by those same race-pimps, and are demanding the same thing - justice for Trayvon - as if only a conviction will equal justice.

The justice the race-pimps want is Zimmerman dead, anything less is racist.  Gulit and innocence have nothing to do with it, only a dead Zimmerman can prove to the haters that they don't hate the haters.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Conservative RWNJ on May 08, 2012, 10:56:54 AM

no one has pointed a finger at the parents and placed blame where it began!

And that would be because there is no evidence that there is any blame to be placed on the parents.
SERIOUSLY?? 


Like I said - my kid would have been under STRICT control for being suspended

NO WAY IN HELL THAT MY BOY WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT TO ENJOY CANDY.

Allowing a kid to be out and about buying Skittles like that is condoning the event leading to a school punishment where he was put out of school.

Do your kids get to enjoy a free vacation when they mess up too?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 11:07:35 AM
Like I said - my kid would have been under STRICT control for being suspended

NO WAY IN HELL THAT MY BOY WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT TO ENJOY CANDY.

Allowing a kid to be out and about buying Skittles like that is condoning the event leading to a school punishment where he was put out of school.

Hmm...well I guess that makes you parent of the year or something.

Out here in the real world there are very good parents who have very bad children. It happens.

Most people assume that in America a child (even a 17 year old) can walk to the convenience store and back without getting into trouble. Trayvon's parent(s) made a mistake in that assumption that they will now have to live with.

You should consider lightening up a bit.

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Do your kids get to enjoy a free vacation when they mess up too?

My son hasn't, to the best of my knowledge, messed up and is currently enjoying a free vacation in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 08, 2012, 11:07:53 AM
As far as I'm concerned his parents f***ed up the moment they named him "Trayvon". It is my opinion that children saddled with such ridiculously conjured-up monikers are operating from a deficit from birth that has nothing to do with skin-color and everything to do with prioritizing cultural identity over the well being of ones child.

That said, there is no evidence that Martin was any more incorrigible than many teens whose parents do the best they can. Getting suspended from school is something that I brought upon myself a few times, and I know for a fact that it was in spite of my parents efforts, not because of their lack of effort.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 08, 2012, 11:10:34 AM
...My son hasn't, to the best of my knowledge, messed up and is currently enjoying a free vacation in Afghanistan.

BOOM. That's called a smackdown.

 ::cool::  ::popcorn::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 11:11:09 AM
Getting suspended from school is something that I brought upon myself a few times, and I know for a fact that it was in spite of my parents efforts, not because of their lack of effort.

I was suspended, too.

No Skittles for me, I guess.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Conservative RWNJ on May 08, 2012, 11:17:27 AM
Getting suspended from school is something that I brought upon myself a few times, and I know for a fact that it was in spite of my parents efforts, not because of their lack of effort.

I was suspended, too.

No Skittles for me, I guess.

QUESTION TO BOTH you and IronDioPriest

When you got suspended - did your parents let you out to wander around at night during suspension?

Mine gave me extra chores around the house and I was grounded for at least 2 weeks after suspension was over.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 11:27:04 AM
Getting suspended from school is something that I brought upon myself a few times, and I know for a fact that it was in spite of my parents efforts, not because of their lack of effort.

I was suspended, too.

No Skittles for me, I guess.

QUESTION TO BOTH you and IronDioPriest

When you got suspended - did your parents let you out to wander around at night during suspension?

Mine gave me extra chores around the house and I was grounded for at least 2 weeks after suspension was over.

Maybe my upbringing was slightly different than yours but wandering around at night was not a common practice for me.

Since you entirely missed the point I will attempt to spell it out for you.

The point is that all children get into trouble. It has little to do with the quality (or lack thereof) of the parent's care and upbringing of the child. It has more to do with the inborn personality of the child.

In this case, there is just not enough evidence yet to bring judgement against one or the other. We simply do not know. And we may never know.

Well, except for you.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 08, 2012, 11:33:40 AM
Yeah, never learned to speak hypothetical, facts I like.  Speculation is just that, but lets label it up front as just that.  We know for sure this kid was no angel and was looking for trouble and assaulted Zimmerman, the actions of this kid should and will be discussed at trial, who his parents are doesn't matter.  Plus, why go there?  The Left likes to blame crap like environment and all the other bogeymen to absolve one of committing crimes, I make no excuses for Trayvon, his actions stand on their own.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: EW1(SG) on May 08, 2012, 11:33:45 AM
As far as I'm concerned his parents f***ed up the moment they named him "Trayvon". It is my opinion that children saddled with such ridiculously conjured-up monikers are operating from a deficit from birth that has nothing to do with skin-color and everything to do with prioritizing cultural identity over the well being of ones child.

That said, there is no evidence that Martin was any more incorrigible than many teens whose parents do the best they can. Getting suspended from school is something that I brought upon myself a few times, and I know for a fact that it was in spite of my parents efforts, not because of their lack of effort.

And even some that don't.  Although I have never been a parent, in my younger years I was a leading petty officer aboard a destroyer which brought me into contact with some, uh, "youts" from South Central LA.  Some were never able to shed that background, but some were.  And while several have been generous enough to give me some credit for that, I tend to think the die had been cast by the time they came under my auspices.

I suspect Martin did a stupid thing, I think it likely he initiated a physical attack against a man carrying a weapon, and he paid the ultimate price for it.  It sounds like he might have been headed down the road to perdition anyway, but with a young man that age there have been others who made the leap to the narrow path.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Conservative RWNJ on May 08, 2012, 11:38:26 AM
Getting suspended from school is something that I brought upon myself a few times, and I know for a fact that it was in spite of my parents efforts, not because of their lack of effort.

I was suspended, too.

No Skittles for me, I guess.

QUESTION TO BOTH you and IronDioPriest

When you got suspended - did your parents let you out to wander around at night during suspension?

Mine gave me extra chores around the house and I was grounded for at least 2 weeks after suspension was over.

Maybe my upbringing was slightly different than yours but wandering around at night was not a common practice for me.

Since you entirely missed the point I will attempt to spell it out for you.

The point is that all children get into trouble. It has little to do with the quality (or lack thereof) of the parent's care and upbringing of the child. It has more to do with the inborn personality of the child.

In this case, there is just not enough evidence yet to bring judgement against one or the other. We simply do not know. And we may never know.

Well, except for you.

I am not saying that the kid being killed was wrong nor right ...

I just said that if he had been grounded (with better parental procedures) at least through his suspension - he would have been alive the next morning.

His parents failed him with indifference.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 08, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
I had a friend that would be punished or grounded and it made no difference, he sneaked out the window and disappeared anyway. Aside from bars on the window(s) and the doors, he had it in his mind to got out and f*ck off. The moral of the story is nothing would make a difference, not even the Navy for this guy, he had to learn it the hard way, his way because of his screwed up personality traits.

I do see your points about the parent shipping him off to the other parent when in fact he was suspended. Either way, the parent(s) lost their perceived child (17 Y.O.) but it was never up to them, it was his choice to get into an altercation physically with an armed person.

Hopefully, the lesson learned form all this is be weary of that person you're about to attack as he(she) might be packing. The liberal left would like all to be at the mercy of the attacker while we on the right and free demand the option to look out for our own defense.  ::rockets::

Speaking of conceal carry, I spoke to a clerk at a phone store about my employee getting  mugged and she said "I feel for you, sir. I don't know what I would have done". I told her to buy a firearm and carry it to which she said "I can't carry because ^%$%& or bogus reason"
I explained to her that it was her constitutional right to protect and defend herself. Oh yeah, she is black so I'm going to assume she's been conditioned to believe that guns in defense is a bad thing. There's no reasoning with these idiots, they've been programmed.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 02:43:51 PM
His parents failed him with indifference.

I cannot say that I am aware of any evidence that validates this opinion either. That is to say, I am unaware of the parents' attitude toward the son.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 08, 2012, 02:46:56 PM
Getting suspended from school is something that I brought upon myself a few times, and I know for a fact that it was in spite of my parents efforts, not because of their lack of effort.

I was suspended, too.

No Skittles for me, I guess.

QUESTION TO BOTH you and IronDioPriest

When you got suspended - did your parents let you out to wander around at night during suspension?

Mine gave me extra chores around the house and I was grounded for at least 2 weeks after suspension was over.

Honest answer: I was grounded the entire summer between my junior and senior years. I was forced to sneak out my bedroom window if I wanted to have any fun. And I did so, often.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 08, 2012, 02:49:41 PM
...I just said that if he had been grounded (with better parental procedures) at least through his suspension - he would have been alive the next morning.

His parents failed him with indifference.

I don't think the evidence exists in the public sphere for anyone to be able to draw that conclusion.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 08, 2012, 02:50:55 PM
I had a friend that would be punished or grounded and it made no difference, he sneaked out the window and disappeared anyway...

LOL. I posted my comment above before reading this. Were you and I friends in youth warpmine?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 08, 2012, 06:40:23 PM

At an early age I developed the skill of reproducing either of my parents
signatures, it reduced the number of household problems considerably.


Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 08, 2012, 06:46:45 PM
At an early age I developed the skill of not being caught. Think I got away with it?

God, in His wisdom, blessed me with not one but two children with the same skill. The sneakiness gene, I suppose.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 08, 2012, 07:25:17 PM
I never snuck out.  Gawd, the thought of what my Father would've done when he got his mitts on me if I had ....  ::speechless::

I did get suspended for two days senior year.  It was Eileen Cook's fault.  Liz and I would skip homeroom (hide in the girls' room) so we'd be marked absent, hit the classes we needed to attend and then book to the diner.  One day, we took Eileen with us, after telling her we absolutely would not be returning that day because that's "how ya get caught".  Well, pretty soon after she started making "I really need to go back" noises, then started whining.  So, we took her back to school, encountered the VP in the parking lot and he lowered the boom.  On Liz and I.  Eileen started crying about what her mother would do to her and so she got a pass.  I could still smash her for that.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 08, 2012, 07:56:28 PM
  I didn't have to sneak out I went out the front door all I wanted and POP was OK with it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: benb61 on May 08, 2012, 08:09:03 PM
I was raised by a single mother who was a steel worker and as such worked shifts.  One week 7am-3pm, next week 3pm-11pm, third week 11pm to 7am and then start over. She completely trusted me (being an honor student caused that).  At about 14 the weeks she worked 3-11 I had the biggest parties.  Always managed to clean up and get to bed before 11. When I discovered girls thought I was cute I was hell on wheels (It's a wonder I don't have more children than I do).
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 08, 2012, 09:26:32 PM
I had a friend that would be punished or grounded and it made no difference, he sneaked out the window and disappeared anyway...

LOL. I posted my comment above before reading this. Were you and I friends in youth warpmine?
Perhaps in a different universe. ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 08, 2012, 09:30:48 PM
I never snuck out.  Gawd, the thought of what my Father would've done when he got his mitts on me if I had ....  ::speechless::

I did get suspended for two days senior year.  It was Eileen Cook's fault.  Liz and I would skip homeroom (hide in the girls' room) so we'd be marked absent, hit the classes we needed to attend and then book to the diner.  One day, we took Eileen with us, after telling her we absolutely would not be returning that day because that's "how ya get caught".  Well, pretty soon after she started making "I really need to go back" noises, then started whining.  So, we took her back to school, encountered the VP in the parking lot and he lowered the boom.  On Liz and I.  Eileen started crying about what her mother would do to her and so she got a pass.  I could still smash her for that.

My father put that fear in me as well but also let slip he wasn't exactly an angel so that fear just became more of a fraternal thing. I stayed away from drugs and alcohol in my youth and that was a highlight after seeing just what it did to many.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 08, 2012, 09:51:48 PM
I never snuck out.  Gawd, the thought of what my Father would've done when he got his mitts on me if I had ....  ::speechless::

I did get suspended for two days senior year.  It was Eileen Cook's fault.  Liz and I would skip homeroom (hide in the girls' room) so we'd be marked absent, hit the classes we needed to attend and then book to the diner.  One day, we took Eileen with us, after telling her we absolutely would not be returning that day because that's "how ya get caught".  Well, pretty soon after she started making "I really need to go back" noises, then started whining.  So, we took her back to school, encountered the VP in the parking lot and he lowered the boom.  On Liz and I.  Eileen started crying about what her mother would do to her and so she got a pass.  I could still smash her for that.

My father put that fear in me as well but also let slip he wasn't exactly an angel so that fear just became more of a fraternal thing. I stayed away from drugs and alcohol in my youth and that was a highlight after seeing just what it did to many.


 I could do whatever I wanted as long as I didn't drink or do druggs that would have killed my parents and they would have taken my life too. POP is/was cool as long as I didn't bring home problems so I did my best not to.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 08, 2012, 10:36:03 PM
I never snuck out.  Gawd, the thought of what my Father would've done when he got his mitts on me if I had ....  ::speechless::

I did get suspended for two days senior year.  It was Eileen Cook's fault.  Liz and I would skip homeroom (hide in the girls' room) so we'd be marked absent, hit the classes we needed to attend and then book to the diner.  One day, we took Eileen with us, after telling her we absolutely would not be returning that day because that's "how ya get caught".  Well, pretty soon after she started making "I really need to go back" noises, then started whining.  So, we took her back to school, encountered the VP in the parking lot and he lowered the boom.  On Liz and I.  Eileen started crying about what her mother would do to her and so she got a pass.  I could still smash her for that.

My father put that fear in me as well but also let slip he wasn't exactly an angel so that fear just became more of a fraternal thing. I stayed away from drugs and alcohol in my youth and that was a highlight after seeing just what it did to many.

Drugs were out of the question until I moved out at nineteen and got my own place.  I dabbled just enough to know none o' that was meant for me.

I never had a real drink until I became legal at 18, and in Staten Island, NY.  At the time, your 18th birthday was when your NJ friends piled you in the car and went over the bridge to the Island.  I had a Singapore Sling.  It was more a rite of passage thing; my family always dropped just enough red wine in the kids' orange soda on the holidays to make it a lovely color, so it wasn't a big taboo.  Then.  Today, they'd be arrested and charged with "contributing to the delinquency of a minor".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 09, 2012, 07:53:30 AM
Y'all seem like such tame youths!  I was more than a handful growing up...parties and girls...my only two priorities...and all the trouble both got me into!   ::evil::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on May 09, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
All this sneaking around.....defiant....but it appears none of you felt the need to rob a home....or someone. None of you felt the need to "get even" or lay a beating on someone because you, or the victim, was in the wrong place.

I'm struggling in feeling real sorrow for the parents. I'm sure they attempted to do the best they could for thier child, but if I were to conjecture blame it would be on the culture they choose to believe and live, even if reluctantly. No further proof comes from the race baiters, hanging onto the parents, pushing a racist and divisive, literal, lifestyle.

Until this black cultural thing is addressed, by blacks, we will see a few more Trayvon incidents. We will see these incidents because of the race baiters and the culture they breed. So, I struggle with sorrow toward little innocent Trayvons parents....I do feel sorrow for Zimmerman and his family. He has become a victim.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 10, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
All I'm saying . . .

"I have loved some ladies
and I have loved Jim Beam
and they both tried to kill me
in 1973 . . ."

Close enuff.

Hank Williams Jr. - Family Tradition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHjaW9sXl7s#)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on May 10, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
'New' Black Panthers at it again (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/05/10/New-Black-Panthers-Giggle-Planing-Zimmerman-With-Noose-Newspaper-Cover-To-%20Boost-Sales)

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New Black Panther Chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz discussed inciting racial tensions by picturing George Zimmerman with a noose around his neck on the cover of New Black Panther Newspaper in order to sell more papers in Florida.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2012, 10:06:11 AM
Yeah, color me shocked...racist black swine wants to kill whitey...oh, and hispanics I guess...

He just oozes pc/diversity/multi-culti happy happy thoughts, don't he?!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on May 11, 2012, 10:53:35 AM
And of course, here's the country STILL waiting for the democrats to call for a 'new tone' and to decry these obvious calls for violence. Of course that will never happen because these idiots aren't conservatives. Such things only apply to conservatives...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 15, 2012, 07:51:32 AM
This is fricken ridiculous!

"...the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime."

Even if not charged, this crap has to be thrown out there as red meat for the race-baiting turds out there howling for Zimmerman's blood!

This is the fracked up world we live in now...

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 15, 2012, 07:55:57 AM
This is fricken ridiculous!

"...the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime."

Even if not charged, this crap has to be thrown out there as red meat for the race-baiting turds out there howling for Zimmerman's blood!

This is the fracked up world we live in now...



  The way I see it is that if someone has me on my back and is trying to crack my skull open I effing hate him and will kill him if I get a chance not matter what color he/she is.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 15, 2012, 08:13:21 AM
This is fricken ridiculous!

"...the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime."

Even if not charged, this crap has to be thrown out there as red meat for the race-baiting turds out there howling for Zimmerman's blood!

This is the fracked up world we live in now...



  The way I see it is that if someone has me on my back and is trying to crack my skull open I effing hate him and will kill him if I get a chance not matter what color he/she is.

You got that right!  I don't care if he/she/it is white and purple with green hair...they goin' down!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 15, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
This is fricken ridiculous!

"...the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime."

Even if not charged, this crap has to be thrown out there as red meat for the race-baiting turds out there howling for Zimmerman's blood!

This is the fracked up world we live in now...



  The way I see it is that if someone has me on my back and is trying to crack my skull open I effing hate him and will kill him if I get a chance not matter what color he/she is.

You got that right!  I don't care if he/she/it is white and purple with green hair...they goin' down!

This is fricken ridiculous!

ABC News Exclusive: Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting (http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532#.T7L3M9XLn7U)

By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and SENI TIENABESO (@senijr_abc)
May 15, 2012

A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation.

Video at link (http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532#.T7L3M9XLn7U).





Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2012, 07:47:40 AM
Uhh, yeah...what's the prosecutor gonna say?  George started it!  Ya got proof to go witt that bullsh*t, pal?   ::)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BMG on May 16, 2012, 07:51:23 AM
LINK (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/autopsy-results-show-trayvon-martin-had-injuries-h/nN6gs/)

Quote
WFTV has learned that the medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: The fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles.

When you compare Trayvon’s non-fatal injury with Zimmerman's bloody head wounds, the autopsy evidence is better for the defense, Sheaffer said.

“It goes along with Zimmerman's story that he acted in self-defense, because he was getting beaten up by Trayvon Martin,” Sheaffer said.

But it was a hate crime! How can this be?!  ::thinking::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on May 16, 2012, 08:28:50 AM
Have we had a single shred of evidence, yet, even remotely point to 2nd degree murder?

I want this hack prosecutor in jail, when this is over.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2012, 08:32:06 AM
I'd like to see Zimmerman and the prosecutor switching spots right now!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 16, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Have we had a single shred of evidence, yet, even remotely point to 2nd degree murder?

I want this hack prosecutor in jail, when this is over.

  I honestly believe that they did this to defuse a possible racial mess at the time,which I call shenanigans on. I also believe that they overcharged Zimmerman so the case gets sunk from the onset all this is for purpose of stirring up the base.

 The guy is walking out not guilty.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2012, 09:28:12 AM
Have we had a single shred of evidence, yet, even remotely point to 2nd degree murder?

I want this hack prosecutor in jail, when this is over.

  I honestly believe that they did this to defuse a possible racial mess at the time,which I call shenanigans on. I also believe that they overcharged Zimmerman so the case gets sunk from the onset all this is for purpose of stirring up the base.

 The guy is walking out not guilty.

That later part in the hands of a jury is not a certainty, but even if true, at what cost to Zimmerman and his family?  The asshat prosecutor and the race-baiters that stirred this up get awa y scot free!

That is not OK in my book.

They must be made to pay one way or another.  A civil or criminal couter-suits could take time and more oney, who has an abundance of either?

They must pay, and it is up to all of us to fight these race-war peddlers!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: benb61 on May 16, 2012, 09:49:30 AM
Quote
But it was a hate crime! How can this be?!

Simple, Travon hated Zimmerman!  Isn't it obvious, he was skulking around a gated community to see if he could lure some unsuspecting Neighborhood Watch Captain out of his house to follow him and planned to open a can of whup-ass to show the po-po (and probably his gang-banging friends) he's one tough m-f.  Seriously though if anyone should be investigated for a hate crime it should be the race baiting Jackson, Sharpton, Shabazz and obama for all that they contributed.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 16, 2012, 10:24:09 AM
Uhh, yeah...what's the prosecutor gonna say?  George started it!  Ya got proof to go witt that bullsh*t, pal?   ::)

Obviously, Zimmerman was beating the crap out of Martin's knuckles with his face...duh. The jury is going to see this right away. We don't even need a trial.

I'm also certain that because Martin's knuckles were taking such a massive beating from Zimmerman's face it was only natural that he had to go for  Zimmerman's gun in self defense. This is all so simple.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 16, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
Uhh, yeah...what's the prosecutor gonna say?  George started it!  Ya got proof to go witt that bullsh*t, pal?   ::)

Obviously, Zimmerman was beating the crap out of Martin's knuckles with his face...duh. The jury is going to see this right away. We don't even need a trial.

I'm also certain that because Martin's knuckles were taking such a massive beating from Zimmerman's face it was only natural that he had to go for  Zimmerman's gun in self defense. This is all so simple.

The defense rests.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 16, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
Have we had a single shred of evidence, yet, even remotely point to 2nd degree murder?

I want this hack prosecutor in jail, when this is over.

  I honestly believe that they did this to defuse a possible racial mess at the time,which I call shenanigans on. I also believe that they overcharged Zimmerman so the case gets sunk from the onset all this is for purpose of stirring up the base.

 The guy is walking out not guilty.

That later part in the hands of a jury is not a certainty, but even if true, at what cost to Zimmerman and his family?  The asshat prosecutor and the race-baiters that stirred this up get awa y scot free!

That is not OK in my book.

They must be made to pay one way or another.  A civil or criminal couter-suits could take time and more oney, who has an abundance of either?

They must pay, and it is up to all of us to fight these race-war peddlers!

  That's the real tragedy.But if what some said on TV he may law suits all over the place.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on May 17, 2012, 07:15:28 PM
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120515/US.Neighborhood.Watch/?cid= (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120515/US.Neighborhood.Watch/?cid=)

Well, well, well....Little innocent trayvon was high....


Medical examiners found evidence of marijuana in Trayvon Martin's system after he was fatally shot by a neighborhood watch volunteer, according to an autopsy released Thursday in a massive package of evidence.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 17, 2012, 08:33:55 PM
Did you get that Angela Corey? The kid was high and probably acted irrationally which is why we now have a dead teenager.

Let's get this straight, Martin was suspended from school for possession of a bag of pot and later it now seems as though pot may have contributed to irrational violent response. ::rockethrow::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on May 17, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
Call me macabre but I kind of want to know what type of ammo Zimmerman was packing. I know it was a 9mm Kel-Tec pistol, and evidently was a one shot deal. It did the trick whatever it was.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 17, 2012, 09:21:43 PM
Call me macabre but I kind of want to know what type of ammo Zimmerman was packing. I know it was a 9mm Kel-Tec pistol, and evidently was a one shot deal. It did the trick whatever it was.

 Stuff that goes BANG when it needs to. At 18 inches most anything will kill you if it hits the right spot.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 17, 2012, 10:58:24 PM
Call me macabre but I kind of want to know what type of ammo Zimmerman was packing. I know it was a 9mm Kel-Tec pistol, and evidently was a one shot deal. It did the trick whatever it was.

 Stuff that goes BANG when it needs to. At 18 inches most anything will kill you if it hits the right spot.

Was it even 18 inches?  But it WAS straight into the chest.  Good luck living through that.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 18, 2012, 08:06:26 AM
Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Trayvon Martin Shooting
http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-witnesses-back-george-zimmermans-version/story?id=16371852 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/cops-witnesses-back-george-zimmermans-version/story?id=16371852)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/martin-zimmerman-witness-758903 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/martin-zimmerman-witness-758903)

Where are all those lying ass race-baiting SOB's now?! 

Maybe they've been on the talk shows, I haven't watched, I watch very little of that crap anymore...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 18, 2012, 08:12:31 AM
Call me macabre but I kind of want to know what type of ammo Zimmerman was packing. I know it was a 9mm Kel-Tec pistol, and evidently was a one shot deal. It did the trick whatever it was.

 Stuff that goes BANG when it needs to. At 18 inches most anything will kill you if it hits the right spot.

Was it even 18 inches?  But it WAS straight into the chest.  Good luck living through that.

One witnessed said upper chest/neck area, either way, FMJ or HP would have been fatal, 1-18" type impact range confirmed.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on May 18, 2012, 04:35:15 PM
Well, according to some of the gun shop commandos, a 9mm wouldn't even break the skin. A 45, on the other hand, would have launched him into a polar orbit around the Earth.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 18, 2012, 05:36:36 PM
Autopsy report: Mary Jane in blood sample.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/6946706/Trayvon-Martin-autopsy-reveals-traces-of-marijuana (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/6946706/Trayvon-Martin-autopsy-reveals-traces-of-marijuana)

"He is acting strange" . . . George Zimmerman
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 18, 2012, 05:55:43 PM
Well, according to some of the gun shop commandos, a 9mm wouldn't even break the skin. A 45, on the other hand, would have launched him into a polar orbit around the Earth.

It's the details that make the cake. 
Even though one may have a favorite
recipe exactly what another cook does
to achieve success is always interesting.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 19, 2012, 12:49:33 PM
I read somewhere a day or two ago that the autopsy showed it was a heart shot.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 20, 2012, 05:25:40 AM
Yesterday, at my son's baseball game, I sat next to the ex's hubby. (I have always liked the guy)

Anyway, during a break in the game I say, "Hey, did you read that Trayvon had trace amounts of MJ in his blood sample?" He responded, ""Oh, is that the black kid who was murdered by the white guy in Florida?"

I stared at him with my jaw on my chest. By his comment, I was reminded that all across this country are supposedly educated folks who just don't know nuthin bout nuthin . . .
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on May 20, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
Yesterday, at my son's baseball game, I sat next to the ex's hubby. (I have always liked the guy)

Anyway, during a break in the game I say, "Hey, did you read that Trayvon had trace amounts of MJ in his blood sample?" He responded, ""Oh, is that the black kid who was murdered by the white guy in Florida?"

I stared at him with my jaw on my chest. By his comment, I was reminded that all across this country are supposedly educated folks who just don't know nuthin bout nuthin . . .



Reminds me of a billy preston song from my youth in the 70s.

Nothing from nothing is nothing, but you gotta have something, if you want to be with me( or something to ths effect)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: robins111 on May 20, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
This whole racially motivated song and dance is falling apart like snow on a hot stove.   I wonder if anyone in the MSM has the spine to stand up and say, "we were wrong"... I don't think that'll ever happen, so their credibility is even worse.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 20, 2012, 10:07:20 AM
This whole racially motivated song and dance is falling apart like snow on a hot stove.   I wonder if anyone in the MSM has the spine to stand up and say, "we were wrong"... I don't think that'll ever happen, so their credibility is even worse.

We can learn by remembering the Duke Lacrosse case. This will be milked until the last shred of credibility is gone, and then some. If the crumbling of the story fails to produce the desired racial civil unrest, the media will "ease" the story out of the public eye, and it will eventually go away, leaving racial divisiveness in its wake. Millions of Blacks will believe that there was no "Justice for Trayvon™", even as they watch the evidence against Zimmerman crumble.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 20, 2012, 11:23:33 AM
IDP: You are so spot on you've split arrow dead center as the fabled Robin Hood shot.

Stirred the pot the lame stream media has done leaving nothing but debris and wasteland in the wake. ::stirpot::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
Well, according to some of the gun shop commandos, a 9mm wouldn't even break the skin. A 45, on the other hand, would have launched him into a polar orbit around the Earth.

At 1-18"?!  Really?  Did any volunteer to test that proposition?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2012, 12:37:47 PM
IDP: You are so spot on you've split arrow dead center as the fabled Robin Hood shot.

Stirred the pot the lame stream media has done leaving nothing but debris and wasteland in the wake. ::stirpot::

The allegation as writ by the MFM is all that matters to this ilk, truth is always the first casualty...

 ::)

The blood of innocents is on Leftist hands, we all know this, some of them may even know this, but they don't care...
Title: New video of Trayvon participating in "Fight Club"
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 21, 2012, 07:50:25 AM
The video “Anthony vs. Curtis” has since been re-uploaded to YouTube. The video shows Trayvon engaged in actual and intentional violent conduct. You’ll notice Trayvon in the video (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/newly-discovered-video-previously-scrubbed-from-youtube-shows-trayvon-martin-participating-in-local-fight-club/), wearing a white cap with the striped shirt. You can hear his name called out about 5 seconds into the video.

anthony vs. curtis Reupload for the Capitalist Army (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll8jZuTkjPQ#)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 21, 2012, 07:35:45 PM
  It's gone.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 21, 2012, 07:37:34 PM
  It's gone.

Of course it is. Can't show St. Trayvon involved in gangland nigga initiation rituals.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Miltrainer on May 21, 2012, 07:47:58 PM
  It's gone.

Of course it is. Can't show St. Trayvon involved in gangland nigga initiation rituals.
Hopefully it will pop up again! ::praying::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 21, 2012, 08:10:00 PM
  It's gone.

Of course it is. Can't show St. Trayvon involved in gangland nigga initiation rituals.
Hopefully it will pop up again! ::praying::


 Somebody has to have their hands on it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 21, 2012, 11:59:00 PM
 a suggestion--save these kind of vids to your computer before you post them here @ IAL---

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 22, 2012, 08:06:13 AM
Yeah, dang cleaners move quick!   ::gaah::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on May 22, 2012, 10:31:27 AM
anthony vs. curtis 2 Reupload for the Capitalist Army (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHMn7XyMlM#)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 22, 2012, 07:36:12 PM

What's incriminating?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 23, 2012, 10:10:06 AM

What's incriminating?


You mean about the video? The video showing Trayvon Martin as an adult-sized male steeped in a culture of violence, and enjoying the heck out of it?

Nothing incriminating I suppose. But it certainly offers a counter-narrative to the wide-eyed Skittle-eatin', tea-sippin', pre-pubescent lil' boy skipping home from the candy shop just mindin' his own beeswax until White-Hispanic jumped him and beat up his knuckles with his face and then shot him in cold blood.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 23, 2012, 10:19:31 AM

What's incriminating?


You mean about the video? The video showing Trayvon Martin as an adult-sized male steeped in a culture of violence, and enjoying the heck out of it?

Nothing incriminating I suppose. But it certainly offers a counter-narrative to the wide-eyed Skittle-eatin', tea-sippin', pre-pubescent lil' boy skipping home from the candy shop just mindin' his own beeswax until White-Hispanic jumped him and beat up his knuckles with his face and then shot him in cold blood.

You know what you just did there IDP?

Yup, wrote the defense teams closing summation you did!

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 23, 2012, 05:40:54 PM
  I'm at the screw Travon level in this discussion.He's dead cause he was stupid,he lost Zimmerman and decided to get in his face instead of going home.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 27, 2012, 08:51:24 PM

WHAT IS “LEAN” ?

According to Urban Dictionary, “Lean” is described as follows:

    “…  6. Lean is a mixed drink originating in the Southern Rap culture. It is a mixture of Promethazine and Codeine cough syrup and a soft drink such as Sprite (usually). While other soft drinks may be used, Sprite was the original.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/ (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/rubycalaber/In%20use/trayvondrugdealing.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/rubycalaber/In%20use/trayvondrugdealing.png)

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 27, 2012, 11:07:35 PM
Wow! Some real damning stuff there on that site, CO

Who the hell comes up with this sh*t for getting high. Kid would have been better off with a heroin habit. For certain he's still be alive if he didn't od.

Forgive me but I just don't understand the need for all this crap and so I lay some of the blame where it should be, at the feet of popular culture. Just sick f#cks. ::barf::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on May 27, 2012, 11:23:02 PM
Also, the more we find out about little innocent trayvon, the more I must look to the parents. I realize it is just conjecture, but his parents would have to be blind not to realize what their little darling was involved. This is not the escapades of a playful teenager, this is much more. I felt a tinge of sorrow for them as the race biters glommed on, but now it's vanished. They knew. They did nothing. Don't try to convince me any different.

I also believe Obama when he stated " if I had a son, he'd be just like trayvon" .......why not...Obama was trayvon.

Zimmermans life is ruined, but In a trial I want his lawyers to bring out every trayvon character trait, I hope they question the parents, his friends, his enemies........I hope they are up to the task to bring out the truth.

If Zimmerman opens a defense fund, I'll give to it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 28, 2012, 01:47:11 AM
Just connecting a dot to the information CO posted.  Remember this (http://www.wtsp.com/news/watercooler/article/256102/58/Woman-attacked-while-ordering-lunch-at-drive-thru)from last week?

Quote
Then a man jumped out of the car and threw a soda through her window.

"He said, 'This is for you, you white b----. This is a grape soda.

' And then they took off," Shannon said.

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1148.msg66058.html#msg66058 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1148.msg66058.html#msg66058)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 28, 2012, 09:39:38 AM
Also, the more we find out about little innocent trayvon, the more I must look to the parents. I realize it is just conjecture, but his parents would have to be blind not to realize what their little darling was involved. This is not the escapades of a playful teenager, this is much more. I felt a tinge of sorrow for them as the race biters glommed on, but now it's vanished. They knew. They did nothing. Don't try to convince me any different.

I also believe Obama when he stated " if I had a son, he'd be just like trayvon" .......why not...Obama was trayvon.

Zimmermans life is ruined, but In a trial I want his lawyers to bring out every trayvon character trait, I hope they question the parents, his friends, his enemies........I hope they are up to the task to bring out the truth.

If Zimmerman opens a defense fund, I'll give to it.

Do you seriously believe that the trial will examine Travon's character flaws along with his search to get high?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 29, 2012, 12:16:34 PM
Just saw the link to this (http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/5/27/44552/1872) posted at AoS.

This blog post offers a pretty comprehensive look at the time line and the witness statements. It even has an overhead photo of the neighborhood showing where everything and everyone was at the time of the shooting.

It's long and very, very detailed. It's difficult to see how Zimmerman does not walk. Here is a brief excerpt toward the end:


Quote
What is the state left with? Its motion for protective order is being misinterpreted by the media,. The state does not say that George Zimmerman's statements prove he's guilty.

Read it carefully. It says there are some inconsistencies and contradictions in Zimmerman's various statements. It doesn't say those make him guilty. It says Zimmerman's statements "in conjunction with" physical evidence and witness statements, establish his guilt. Which is another way of saying that GZ's statements, by themselves, don't make their case.

The state isn't dumb enough to rely on phone friend Dee Dee other than in a minor, supporting role. The roommates and the Teacher would be demolished on cross-examination by what they said on their 911 calls. If these witnesses are not credible, and don't fill in the blanks as to what immediately preceded the shooting, it won't matter much that they contradict Zimmerman in other particulars. It needs more, and it doesn't seem to have it.

Why Zimmerman reported Trayvon to the non-emergency number is a red herring. It doesn't matter if he profiled him or unfairly suspected him of criminal activity. It doesn't matter that he was a crime warrior. He didn't break the law. His neighborhood watch program, set up with the assistance of the police, instructed residents to report suspicious activity. That's what he did. He wasn't on watch that night, he had a concealed weapons permit, and it wasn't a crime to get out of his car to see where Trayvon had run off to, so he could tell the police when they got there.

All that matters legally is whether Trayvon Martin's physical attack on him caused him to reasonably fear serious bodily injury. Zimmerman's testimony, which is supported by proof of his injuries and witnesses observing the struggle, is that Martin broke his nose and banged his head against cement. He tried to get up and couldn't. Using an objective standard, a reasonable person in that situation would fear imminent serious bodily injury if he didn't react with force.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 29, 2012, 01:19:20 PM
After reading that one can only conclude the prosecution is up sh*t creek without a paddle or a lifejacket...unless they stack the jury with people biased against Zimmerman I don't see how they have a prayer...and the way juries go now days anything can happen...but there are too many mine fields out there that can blow up the states case.  They almost have to go into a minimalist position and cut off every potential opening to defense inquiry and hope they get some sort of conviction...I just don't see this case rising to the evidence.  A smart DA would announce after careful review blah blah blah no criminality found all charges are dropped.  And if the DA is not that bright a judge worth his pension should step in and declare the states case is empty and throw the sucker out.  Well, we don't live in a sane country anymore, so, I guess we'll see where this goes...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on May 29, 2012, 04:06:45 PM
Also, the more we find out about little innocent trayvon, the more I must look to the parents. I realize it is just conjecture, but his parents would have to be blind not to realize what their little darling was involved. This is not the escapades of a playful teenager, this is much more. I felt a tinge of sorrow for them as the race biters glommed on, but now it's vanished. They knew. They did nothing. Don't try to convince me any different.

I also believe Obama when he stated " if I had a son, he'd be just like trayvon" .......why not...Obama was trayvon.

Zimmermans life is ruined, but In a trial I want his lawyers to bring out every trayvon character trait, I hope they question the parents, his friends, his enemies........I hope they are up to the task to bring out the truth.

If Zimmerman opens a defense fund, I'll give to it.

Do you seriously believe that the trial will examine Travon's character flaws along with his search to get high?

If his lawyers do thier job...yea.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 29, 2012, 11:18:59 PM

From past accounts it was Trayvon who stalked Zimmerman.
That "community" was set up like apartment blocks.  While
GZ was checking on Trayvon, he lost him. GZ was headed
North and Trayvon hooked it East, GZ said something like
I lost him turned around and headed for his car.  In
meantime Trayvon had made a U turn, intercepted and
blindsided GZ.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 30, 2012, 01:58:46 AM
Well here's an interesting theory about the Arizona Iced Tea and Skittles. I found this on the ONT at AoS. Here is the direct link (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/) to the posting.

Quote
Purple Lean, or Lean, is an intoxicating beverage also known by the names lean, sizzurp, and liquid codeine. It is commonly abused by southern rappers and wannabe suburban teenagers. It is a mixture of Promethazine/Codeine cough syrup and sprite, or other beverage [such as Arizona Watermelon]  with a few jolly ranchers and/or skittles thrown in.

Go to the linked blog post. It is a very, very long and detailed bit of research and it makes a LOT of sense given what we now think we know happened on the night of the shooting.

If this thing ever goes to trial it would be interesting if this came out.

Quote
It is quite possible that Trayvon Martin – experiencing the tolerance effects caused by chronic use of DXM - potentially took a larger dose of DXM than he’d had before,  or at the very least was recently indulging himself in an admitted actitity.   Maybe even suffered a “psychotic break”, but at least the behavioral paranoia and psychological stress consistent with the use of long-term DXM use might have to a physical and psychological reaction to questions by George Zimmerman, and ultimately to his aggressive response.

Trayvon would not necessarily have needed to be under the “immediate influence” of the “trip” at the time (Robotrippin’), he could just as easily have been preparing for his next “trip” while still holding the long-lasting effects from prior use.   The timing of prior use may contribute to his emotional state, or the cumulative effect could have been a contributing factor.  Both are just as potentially dangerous.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 30, 2012, 05:08:31 AM
When the State has a weak case, and the public demands a prosecution, the charges and degree of the offense are ramped up for one reason: To coerce a plea bargain.

"Tell ya what, Mr. Zimmerman, we'll drop that first degree murder charge that could send you to prison for thirty years in exchange for a plea to misdemeanor assault. Let ya go with time served. Whattayasay?"

Bank on it . . .
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 30, 2012, 06:55:02 AM
IIRC the autopsy showed traces of pot in Martin's system, but didn't mention anything about other substances.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2012, 07:52:05 AM
IIRC the autopsy showed traces of pot in Martin's system, but didn't mention anything about other substances.

So, he was a member of Obama's Choom Club, eh?

Son indeed!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on May 30, 2012, 10:24:29 AM
When the State has a weak case, and the public demands a prosecution, the charges and degree of the offense are ramped up for one reason: To coerce a plea bargain.

"Tell ya what, Mr. Zimmerman, we'll drop that first degree murder charge that could send you to prison for thirty years in exchange for a plea to misdemeanor assault. Let ya go with time served. Whattayasay?"

Bank on it . . .

Bingo.  This was my contention from the moment the prosecutor brought charges.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on May 30, 2012, 11:12:57 AM
When the State has a weak case, and the public demands a prosecution persecution, the charges and degree of the offense are ramped up for one reason: To coerce a plea bargain.

"Tell ya what, Mr. Zimmerman, we'll drop that first degree murder charge that could send you to prison for thirty years in exchange for a plea to misdemeanor assault. Let ya go with time served. Whattayasay?"

Bank on it . . .

Fixed it.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
Pan uncovered this and posted it in the South Beach Diet thread -

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/ (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/)

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,5982.0.html (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,5982.0.html)

 ::hat-tip::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 30, 2012, 11:54:30 AM
Libertas, it's CO's link in this very thread, back a page or so ......

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,5210.msg66524.html#msg66524 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,5210.msg66524.html#msg66524)

Credit where credit's due an' all ........   ::grouphug::

Very informative; I learned a few things that are good to know.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2012, 12:01:28 PM
Oh, OK, might have been one of the links that didn't work for me yesterday, but yes, very informative!

Thanks CO!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 31, 2012, 10:57:29 AM

Photo gallery shows pictures of the crime scene and GZ the night of the incident.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/photo-gallery.aspx?storyid=255685 (http://www.wtsp.com/news/photo-gallery.aspx?storyid=255685)


...and to the right is a box link to images from the Hooters International Swimsuit Pagent.
                       
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 31, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
Great, must be the Hooters part blocking my access!   ::angry::   ::cussing::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 31, 2012, 09:14:02 PM

It's just a standard Channel 10 broadcast news link. 
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on June 01, 2012, 03:38:55 PM
Zimmerman is sent back to jail (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/State-files-motion-to-revoke-George-Zimmmerman-s-bond/-/1637132/14427188/-/m6p8sy/-/index.html) for "lying" to the judge about his finances.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on June 01, 2012, 03:41:10 PM
That guy is going to be a millionaire before this is all over.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on June 01, 2012, 04:06:20 PM
Zimmerman is sent back to jail (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/State-files-motion-to-revoke-George-Zimmmerman-s-bond/-/1637132/14427188/-/m6p8sy/-/index.html) for "lying" to the judge about his finances.

And what's this about "another passport"?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on June 01, 2012, 04:44:48 PM
Zimmerman is sent back to jail (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/State-files-motion-to-revoke-George-Zimmmerman-s-bond/-/1637132/14427188/-/m6p8sy/-/index.html) for "lying" to the judge about his finances.

And what's this about "another passport"?
This from what I read is an old expired passport which was superseded by the up to date one. The judge said that it was a moot point so why isn't the media reporting it that way? They're complicit in the sham.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on June 01, 2012, 05:29:35 PM
Zimmerman is sent back to jail (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/State-files-motion-to-revoke-George-Zimmmerman-s-bond/-/1637132/14427188/-/m6p8sy/-/index.html) for "lying" to the judge about his finances.

And what's this about "another passport"?
This from what I read is an old expired passport which was superseded by the up to date one. The judge said that it was a moot point so why isn't the media reporting it that way? They're complicit in the sham.

Because it'll spin like a top, that's why.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on June 07, 2012, 01:42:46 PM
The prosecutor in the case is very upset with Alan Dershowitz regarding his opinion that she is a boob.

She has threatened to sue him.

She has threatened to sue his employer, the Harvard School of Law.

She has threatened to have him disbarred.

As you might expect, Dershowitz has replied. (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Zimmerman-Trayvon-Angela-Corey/2012/06/05/id/441305)

Quote
"State Attorney Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case, recently called the Dean of Harvard Law School to complain about my criticism of some of her actions.

She was transferred to the Office of Communications and proceeded to engage in a 40-minute rant, during which she threatened to sue Harvard Law School, to try to get me disciplined by the Bar Association and to file charges against me for libel and slander.

She said that because I work for Harvard and am identified as a professor she had the right to sue Harvard.

When the communications official explained to her that I have a right to express my opinion as “a matter of academic freedom,” and that Harvard has no control over what I say, she did not seem to understand".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: EW1(SG) on June 07, 2012, 05:27:15 PM
The prosecutor in the case is very upset with Alan Dershowitz regarding his opinion that she is a boob.

She has threatened to sue him.

She has threatened to sue his employer, the Harvard School of Law.

She has threatened to have him disbarred.

As you might expect, Dershowitz has replied. (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Zimmerman-Trayvon-Angela-Corey/2012/06/05/id/441305)

Quote
"State Attorney Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case, recently called the Dean of Harvard Law School to complain about my criticism of some of her actions.

She was transferred to the Office of Communications and proceeded to engage in a 40-minute rant, during which she threatened to sue Harvard Law School, to try to get me disciplined by the Bar Association and to file charges against me for libel and slander.

She said that because I work for Harvard and am identified as a professor she had the right to sue Harvard.

When the communications official explained to her that I have a right to express my opinion as “a matter of academic freedom,” and that Harvard has no control over what I say, she did not seem to understand".


And with that, she has apparently disqualified herself from prosecuting the case (that is, if anybody is paying attention besides us):

Angela Corey needs to step down. (http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/06/if-angela-corey-threatened-suit-against-dershowitz-and-harvard-she-needs-to-step-down-from-zimmerman-case/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on June 07, 2012, 06:33:19 PM
  She never should have stepped in to start with.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 07, 2012, 07:16:52 PM

That Dershowitz interview should be on YouTube.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: EW1(SG) on June 07, 2012, 08:18:15 PM
  She never should have stepped in to start with.

Very true.

She should have invoked a grand jury and have been done with this already.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 08, 2012, 08:17:24 AM
  She never should have stepped in to start with.

Very true.

She should have invoked a grand jury and have been done with this already.

Yup.

And her attacks on Dershowitz are backfiring...being too stupid to know when to take a case or not take a case, or to throw gasoline on a fellow barrister...

Yeah, Corey deserves every ill coming her way...and then some!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on June 08, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
Quote
She has threatened to sue him.

George Zimmerman is going to be a very rich man.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on June 08, 2012, 10:38:53 AM
What's the old saying, better to keep your mouth shut and thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 08, 2012, 11:52:41 AM
What's the old saying, better to keep your mouth shut and thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

Libiots almost always violate that rule, the rest of us only through innocent lapses in judgement.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 08, 2012, 10:39:59 PM

Here's the Dershowitz interview.

Alan Dershowitz Slams Special Prosecutor Angela Corey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIYV5MuoVCQ#ws)



Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on June 10, 2012, 05:32:00 AM
This bail revocation is nothing more than tightening the screws on George so that he is more amenable with a plea bargain.

"See George, we don't want to have to keep revoking your bail for minor reasons. Why don't you do yourself a big favor and just sign this plea agreement to misdemeanor assault. Time Served. Whadayasay?"

Let me also go on record saying that his local attorney is the poorest advocate for his client that I have ever seen. I would be holding a press conference every day challenging the state's evidence (or lack thereof.) This guy wears women's underpants.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 11, 2012, 07:59:14 AM
This bail revocation is nothing more than tightening the screws on George so that he is more amenable with a plea bargain.

"See George, we don't want to have to keep revoking your bail for minor reasons. Why don't you do yourself a big favor and just sign this plea agreement to misdemeanor assault. Time Served. Whadayasay?"

Let me also go on record saying that his local attorney is the poorest advocate for his client that I have ever seen. I would be holding a press conference every day challenging the state's evidence (or lack thereof.) This guy wears women's underpants.

You got that right!  Somebody from Landmark or eslewhere needs to step in and send in a heavyweight, or our rights will start to get repealled all over!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on June 12, 2012, 04:33:54 PM
Zimmerman's wife arrested, charged with perjury.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/12/zimmermans-wife-arrested-on-perjury-charge/comment-page-1/ (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/12/zimmermans-wife-arrested-on-perjury-charge/comment-page-1/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 12, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
They know they have no murder case and intend to break these citizens into compliance with a lesser charge.

Dammit. I almost feel like an armed posse needs to rescue him from lawlessness.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on June 12, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
It does.  This man is being railroaded.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on June 12, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
It does.  This man is being railroaded.

 They're trying to get to him using his wife. All they want is a plee bargain out of him. They want no part of a court house. If he can take the heat he's going to win.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 12, 2012, 09:00:24 PM

 Expect another op-ed from Dershowitz.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 12, 2012, 10:14:12 PM

 Expect another op-ed from Dershowitz.


I've been waiting for him to offer his services pro bono.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 13, 2012, 07:48:34 AM

 Expect another op-ed from Dershowitz.


I've been waiting for him to offer his services pro bono.

Something needs to happen!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 21, 2012, 07:41:56 AM
What a fracking joke.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/20/2860209/sanford-police-chief-bill-lee.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/20/2860209/sanford-police-chief-bill-lee.html)

This city manager is an asshat, no doubt as is the mayor and everyone else on their city council.  The only community they care about is the one that demands bullsh*t arrests according to the tenants of pc/diversity/multi-culti racist cultist bastards!

Who should take the fall is the asshat prosecutor and the moron that assigned her!

 ::mooning::

Whatever, one way or another they'll have their race war soon enough, won't that make all the cultists so happy?!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ToddF on June 21, 2012, 08:33:37 AM
The police chief will land on his feet.

Meanwhile the leaders of Sanford, FL just marked their city as anther inner city sh*thole in total decline, populated by animals, and only welcoming to animals.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 21, 2012, 09:10:38 AM
Yup.  Can't disagree with that one bit.  One way or another, given time, people usually get what they deserve.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 21, 2012, 10:35:07 AM


http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-reenactment-trayvon-martin-shooting/story?id=16616864#.T-MTYLjDVoY (http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-reenactment-trayvon-martin-shooting/story?id=16616864#.T-MTYLjDVoY)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 21, 2012, 11:54:23 AM
So three days later this Serino asshole gives him the 3rd degree and somehow the ignorant twit bases her charges on this sh*t?  It is obvious this Serino asshole was leading Zimmerman to his own pre-established bias that just so happens to fit the pc/diversity/multi-culti template, that was no doubt why Corey loved this interrogation.  Does this Serino not know what punks like Trayvon do with skittles?  Is he this blind and stupid an investigator?  Nothing this asshole Serino has disputes the central facts of this case.  Man, Corey and Serino are going to have their asses lit up in cross examinations over this tainted testimony!  They are angling purely to throw dirt on the SYG statute and want that sullied no matter how many innocents are destroyed, no matter how many are falsely accused and falsely convicted.  What a bunch of f**ksticks!  Corey and Serino are on the list for life!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 07, 2012, 09:29:56 AM

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/06/george-zimmerman-released-after-posting-bail-threats-continue-to-pour-in/ (http://twitchy.com/2012/07/06/george-zimmerman-released-after-posting-bail-threats-continue-to-pour-in/)


George Zimmerman was released from jail this afternoon after posting 10 percent of a $1 million bond set by a Florida judge,...

George Zimmerman released after posting bail, threats continue to pour in ...

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on July 07, 2012, 10:00:40 AM

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/06/george-zimmerman-released-after-posting-bail-threats-continue-to-pour-in/ (http://twitchy.com/2012/07/06/george-zimmerman-released-after-posting-bail-threats-continue-to-pour-in/)


George Zimmerman was released from jail this afternoon after posting 10 percent of a $1 million bond set by a Florida judge,...

George Zimmerman released after posting bail, threats continue to pour in ...




Every day blacks prove why they are unemployed.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on July 07, 2012, 11:11:39 AM

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/06/george-zimmerman-released-after-posting-bail-threats-continue-to-pour-in/ (http://twitchy.com/2012/07/06/george-zimmerman-released-after-posting-bail-threats-continue-to-pour-in/)


George Zimmerman was released from jail this afternoon after posting 10 percent of a $1 million bond set by a Florida judge,...

George Zimmerman released after posting bail, threats continue to pour in ...


After hearing the judge's remarks referencing Zimmerman's potential flight risk was taken in consideration that (he) was making plans to flee because he was in hiding, do you think this idiot judge once opened up the paper to see all the threats made against Zimmerman's life from that sector of the public that's clamoring for a trial? No of course not, why would any individual attempt to conceal himself when threats of bodily harm to death itself are strewn about.

Proving once again that those administering justice are fracking clueless. I'm telling you that when the revolution finally arrives there will be such an outcry of freedom it would rival the biblical story of the Exodus.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on July 08, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
IF there is a revolution...

 ::)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 08, 2012, 08:42:54 PM

...and a real leader.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on July 09, 2012, 11:55:23 AM
If's and but's...candy & nuts...

Everyday is not Christmas...

Heck, even Christmas is being phased out!

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 07:14:39 AM
"The Fifth District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach on Wednesday ruled that Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. in Sanford went too far when, among other things, he described Zimmerman as a manipulator."

A win for the defense, but...

"The next step is for Circuit Judge Alan Dickey in Sanford to pick a new judge. It’s expected to be Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson, 58, another felony trial judge in Sanford who has a reputation for handing down tough sentences."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/appeals-court-orders-new-trial-judge-for-zimmerman/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/appeals-court-orders-new-trial-judge-for-zimmerman/)

Will have to see how Nelson handles things.

Prosecution has no comment.



Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on August 30, 2012, 09:21:52 AM
It’s expected to be Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson, 58, another felony trial judge in Sanford who has a reputation for handing down tough sentences."

Who cares if she hands down tough sentences as long as she's impartial.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 11:36:37 AM
It’s expected to be Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson, 58, another felony trial judge in Sanford who has a reputation for handing down tough sentences."

Who cares if she hands down tough sentences as long as she's impartial.

The MFM cares, remember, the only just outcome is Zimmerman convicted, according to these giants of jurisprudence.

/
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 15, 2013, 12:18:40 PM

Just another day in the culture wars.  "No Justice, No Peace"

Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309180/Jamie-Foxx-wears-T-shirt-pictures-Trayvon-Martin-Sandy-Hook-victims-MTV-Movie-Awards.html)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/15/article-2309180-194BE117000005DC-392_634x513.jpg)

Cross posted at: http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7350.msg95772.html#msg95772 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7350.msg95772.html#msg95772)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 15, 2013, 01:08:38 PM
Where's the picture of the 13 month old shot by those two black kids in an attempted mugging?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 15, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
Where's the picture of the 13 month old shot by those two black kids in an attempted mugging?

It's people like you who keep stirring up trouble, can't you just shut up so that we may all get along?
                                       No Justice, No Peace mofo.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 15, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
Yes. In other words, "The court must rule according to our systematically inflamed prejudices and passions, or else we'll riot and burn things down". This form of jurisprudence is known as "social justice".

The same brain trust has also determined that the accused is a white cracker, despite being of incredibly obvious "Hispanic" origin.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 15, 2013, 03:04:03 PM
Yes. In other words, "The court must rule according to our systematically inflamed prejudices and passions, or else we'll riot and burn things down". This form of jurisprudence is known as "social justice".

The same brain trust has also determined that the accused is a white cracker, despite being of incredibly obvious "Hispanic" origin.

  No he was reported to have been a "white Hispanic".
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on April 15, 2013, 03:20:37 PM

Forget the fact that he is mixed race with genuine African slave blood, the media says he was white so he's white. 

or

Where is the Hispanic anti-defamation league out to protect Zimmerman from the racist media?
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 15, 2013, 04:11:40 PM
I remember a t-shirt with his mugshot on it came out, with the caption "Pussy Ass Cracka"
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2013, 05:54:35 PM
More diversity terrorists, f**k 'em!   ::doublebird::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 15, 2013, 08:51:42 PM
More diversity terrorists, f**k 'em!   ::doublebird::


     ::USA::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on April 15, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Here it is:

(http://congressmantomtancredo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-tshirt.jpg)


Now that I get a better look, George does have a rather Scandinavian look about him.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on April 16, 2013, 06:14:24 AM
Here it is:

(http://congressmantomtancredo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-tshirt.jpg)


Now that I get a better look, George does have a rather Scandinavian look about him.
God forbid he look like that asswipe wearing the shirt, Glock. ::rimshot::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on April 16, 2013, 07:30:12 AM
That definitely could be Obama's son.

 ::)

 ::mooning::

 ::asskicking::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on April 16, 2013, 10:55:56 AM
That definitely could be Obama's son.

 ::)

 ::mooning::

 ::asskicking::

 Or son in law.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 14, 2013, 07:37:50 AM
Prosecutors trying to quash the nefarious past of punk thug Trayvon Martin from entering the trial.  How can they do this and not hand the defense a massive chance at a misstrial?  Their case must be so weak that their only shot at a conviction is by pressing the emoting button and characterize poor Trayvon as something he never was - innocent.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/state-pushes-to-keep-trayvon-martins-past-out-of-george-zimmerman-trial/-/1637132/20121540/-/v0sxit/-/index.html (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/state-pushes-to-keep-trayvon-martins-past-out-of-george-zimmerman-trial/-/1637132/20121540/-/v0sxit/-/index.html)

And this is in Florida?  Central Florida?  WTF?!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 14, 2013, 08:47:00 PM
We cannot have the jury hearing evidence about the violent bastard's behavioral problems because that would lead the jury into thinking, correctly, that Travon wasn't the victim, George Zimmerman was as he was fighting for his life.

Apparently the State wants to do a John McCain quash of the evidence because he himeself didn't want to look like a mean person to which in reality he's a grumpy ld bastard. ::facepalm::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 14, 2013, 09:25:19 PM
We cannot have the jury hearing evidence about the violent bastard's behavioral problems because that would lead the jury into thinking, correctly, that Travon wasn't the victim, George Zimmerman was as he was fighting for his life.

Apparently the State wants to do a John McCain quash of the evidence because he himeself didn't want to look like a mean person to which in reality he's a grumpy ld bastard. ::facepalm::

 They sure didn't mind ripping into Zimmermans past,but he's a white Hispanic.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 15, 2013, 06:06:06 AM
We cannot have the jury hearing evidence about the violent bastard's behavioral problems because that would lead the jury into thinking, correctly, that Travon wasn't the victim, George Zimmerman was as he was fighting for his life.

Apparently the State wants to do a John McCain quash of the evidence because he himeself didn't want to look like a mean person to which in reality he's a grumpy ld bastard. ::facepalm::

 They sure didn't mind ripping into Zimmermans past,but he's a white Hispanic.
Oh sure, but that was in the lousy court of opinion courtesy of the extremely lamestream media. Would love to be in the court room when the prosecution, the state, attempt to paint George as some sort of nut because he carries and then call for mistrial immediately afterwards.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 15, 2013, 12:07:01 PM
We cannot have the jury hearing evidence about the violent bastard's behavioral problems because that would lead the jury into thinking, correctly, that Travon wasn't the victim, George Zimmerman was as he was fighting for his life.

Apparently the State wants to do a John McCain quash of the evidence because he himeself didn't want to look like a mean person to which in reality he's a grumpy ld bastard. ::facepalm::

 They sure didn't mind ripping into Zimmermans past,but he's a white Hispanic.
Oh sure, but that was in the lousy court of opinion courtesy of the extremely lamestream media. Would love to be in the court room when the prosecution, the state, attempt to paint George as some sort of nut because he carries and then call for mistrial immediately afterwards.

Given the sorry-assed state of the entire judicial system, a completely retarded decision could fly any direction at any time...real "justice" and "due process" sans any interference or bias are true relics of the past...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 15, 2013, 04:14:31 PM
  Zimmerman is going to walk and retire a wealthy man when all the lawsuits are done.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 15, 2013, 05:31:11 PM

Hope he's a healthy young man when he gets the settlement.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on May 24, 2013, 05:37:34 PM
I'm sure they'll try to suppress this evidence. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/Trayvon-Martin-evidence-photos-679832)

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/tmgunhandsm.jpg)


No gangstas here.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: RickZ on May 24, 2013, 06:12:27 PM
Actually, no, it isn't gangsta:  The grip is not parallel to the ground.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 24, 2013, 09:30:56 PM
Dat  ^^^
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 25, 2013, 01:12:01 AM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/tmgunhandsm.jpg)

Only stupid and/or ignorant people fail to exercise trigger discipline.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 25, 2013, 02:26:37 AM
St. Trayvon: Patron Saint of Stupid & Ignorant.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 25, 2013, 04:26:05 AM

Only stupid and/or ignorant people fail to exercise trigger discipline.

Lookie. The magazine is on the table. (Gun empty?)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: AlanS on May 25, 2013, 05:18:41 AM

Only stupid and/or ignorant people fail to exercise trigger discipline.

Lookie. The magazine is on the table. (Gun empty?)

To me it appears the mag on the table is a spare.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on May 25, 2013, 11:53:48 AM
Yeah you can see the floor plate of a mag loaded in the pistol.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 27, 2013, 01:11:27 PM
Model citizen...for the feral community...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 27, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
Model citizen...for the feral community...

(https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/trayvon-martin-double-finger.jpg)

. . . a picture is worth ten thousand words.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on May 27, 2013, 08:03:39 PM
Model citizen...for the feral community...

. . . a picture is worth ten thousand words worms.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 28, 2013, 07:00:10 AM
But he was just skipping home from the store with candy and soda-pop, singing tra-la-la-la-la.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 28, 2013, 11:00:51 AM
But he was just skipping home from the store with candy and soda-pop, singing tra-la-la-la-la.
tra-la-la-la-la-boo-ze-ay, I'z gett'in high today so I'z can rob whit-tay.......... ::danceban::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on May 28, 2013, 11:37:11 AM
But he was just skipping home from the store with candy and soda-pop, singing tra-la-la-la-la.
tra-la-la-la-la-boo-ze-ay, I'z gett'in high today so I'z can rob whit-tay.......... ::danceban::

...and Holder will git me off anaway, so wha-th-f**k I care, otay?!...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Pandora on May 28, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
But he was just skipping home from the store with candy and soda-pop, singing tra-la-la-la-la.

Did you notice the press kept referring to Arizona Iced Tea as what he was carrying?  It wasn't; it was Arizona Fruity Watermelon drink.  Either they didn't want to be caught associating watermelon anything with the po' li'l Black boy, they didn't know Purple Lean (or Drank) is made with that specific beverage -- and the Skittles he supposedly bought for his "brother" -- or both.

Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on May 28, 2013, 03:12:45 PM
But he was just skipping home from the store with candy and soda-pop, singing tra-la-la-la-la.

Trololo - Eduard Khil (Official Video) / ?????? ???? "???????" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1orMXD_Ijbs#)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 29, 2013, 04:59:59 PM
JF, that Dude be scarier than Travon hisself . . .
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 30, 2013, 08:06:59 PM

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) (http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/29/3422519/lawyer-zimmerman-prosecutor-withheld.html) - A court employee who retrieved photos and deleted text messages from Trayvon Martin’s cellphone has been placed on administrative leave after an attorney testified that prosecutors didn’t properly turn over the evidence to the defense, an attorney said Wednesday.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on May 30, 2013, 11:34:32 PM
This whole thing is Mike Nifong and the Duke lacrosse players all over again.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: trapeze on May 30, 2013, 11:35:46 PM
If they manage to convict him it WILL get overturned on appeal.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: RickZ on May 31, 2013, 02:37:46 AM
This whole thing is Mike Nifong and the Duke lacrosse players all over again.

Yep.  Another case of racial and social justice at its finest, facts be damned.

No one on the left ever apologizes.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on May 31, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
This whole thing is Mike Nifong and the Duke lacrosse players all over again.

Yep.  Another case of racial and social justice at its finest, facts be damned.

No one on the left ever apologizes.

They're also never held to account in any meaningful way. When they do get called on something, they usually hide behind the aegis of the bureaucracy they represent, making the faceless entity the bad guy rather than them personally. This is one of the Left's key ways of waging the Culture War: they can do improper, unethical, and outright illegal things and then when/if they have to compensate an aggrieved party they do so with the public treasury. There is nothing to really prevent abuses, so they proceed apace until a certain amount of abuse is just considered "the way it is" and people just try to avoid it as much as possible. It is normalized that the government doesn't obey the restraints on its authority.

And hence I return to the Ripley Doctrine.


Nuke the entire site fom orbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q#ws)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 31, 2013, 03:02:56 PM
Ripley's obviously speaking about the IRS and well, I agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: ChrstnHsbndFthr on May 31, 2013, 03:47:51 PM


And hence I return to the Ripley Doctrine.


Nuke the entire site fom orbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q#ws)

Ripley, this seems a little extreme.....didn't washington DC used to be American soil and American people?

And, more importantly, how will you make sure no politicians are on vacation when you launch?



LOL
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Alphabet Soup on May 31, 2013, 07:42:18 PM


And hence I return to the Ripley Doctrine.


Nuke the entire site fom orbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q#ws)

Ripley, this seems a little extreme.....didn't washington DC used to be American soil and American people?

And, more importantly, how will you make sure no politicians are on vacation when you launch?



LOL

Offer them free lunch...
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on May 31, 2013, 10:03:26 PM


And hence I return to the Ripley Doctrine.


Nuke the entire site fom orbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q#ws)

Ripley, this seems a little extreme.....didn't washington DC used to be American soil and American people?

And, more importantly, how will you make sure no politicians are on vacation when you launch?



LOL
State of the Union Speech.............guaranteed to get  just about all of them. Drop eight of them in a circular pattern and you'll get most of the employees of the Govt as well ::evilbat::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 03, 2013, 07:15:48 AM
Hit early, hit often...when in doubt, hit it again.  Repeat often.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Predator Don on June 08, 2013, 12:02:53 PM

She should be introduced with the old "Dukes of Hazzard" intro music......he was just a good ole boy, never meaning no harm....



http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/06/08/trayvon-martins-grieving-mom-on-the-view-watch/ (http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/06/08/trayvon-martins-grieving-mom-on-the-view-watch/)
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on June 08, 2013, 10:23:47 PM

She should be introduced with the old "Dukes of Hazzard" intro music......he was just a good ole boy, never meaning no harm....



http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/06/08/trayvon-martins-grieving-mom-on-the-view-watch/ (http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/06/08/trayvon-martins-grieving-mom-on-the-view-watch/)
She's the kind of women that would have no problem standing around whike her son beat the hell out of someone that she didn't know or cared to know and cheering him on because it was her son doling out the whipping. Instead of pulling the kid off to spare the undersized dude on the bottom she would just be standing cheering as a cheerleader for her son until that fateful shot, then she would have went off, screaming "You kilt my son, you kilt my son, Tray-von.etc........
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 13, 2013, 07:01:54 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22577152/george-zimmerman-trial-day-3-jury-selection (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22577152/george-zimmerman-trial-day-3-jury-selection)

Victim my ass!  He got what he deserved!  The defense is being hamstrung at every turn byu this sh*tbag judge, they'll have to go around her and get their info to the jury...let the sh*tbag judge warn the jury to disregard ______ dozens of times, after a while the point will not be lost on jurors, and they only have to find one to hold out against conviction.  The defense has to risk contempt charges to run a credible strategy, otherwise this is a kangaroo court and the sh*tbag judge might as well pull out a gun and summarily execute Zimmerman on the spot and end all pretense!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Glock32 on June 13, 2013, 11:22:28 AM
Since the very beginning they have been preparing him as a Sacrifice to The Narrative. Facts and truth are irrelevant.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on June 13, 2013, 11:45:20 AM
Yup.

And they fear the black feral cOmMunItY more than (for now) peaceful law-abiding folks...

When that dynamic flips it will be too late for those bastards...may God not have mercy on their miserable souls!
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: charlesoakwood on June 13, 2013, 01:00:02 PM

If FL hadn't run all the agrarians away this wouldn't be happening.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: warpmine on June 13, 2013, 05:45:26 PM
Hate to say this but George brought this upon himself by his voting DemonRat for all those years. This is obviously what you can expect when going to trial against the narrative of the left.

If there was any doubt as to whether George would get a fair trial, I hope this clears it all up. Fair is always subjective when we're talking liberals. If there was a case, the Sanford police would have arrested him immediately and made a statement about he facts. They didn't because they knew better.

George will go a free man eventually when the appeal overturns the whole lower court ruling because foul play on behalf of the prosecution has denied George his civil rights and you know it and the Judge knows it....it's just a sham.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on October 31, 2013, 12:04:48 PM
The end of the story - Sandford goes full-retard...

Sanford to ban Neighborhood Watch members from carrying guns
 (http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upiUPI-20131031-091532-9217)

Guess we don't have to feel sorry for anybody raped, beaten or murdered in this area anymore...anybody stupid enough to stay there has nobody to blame but themselves.

Idiots!

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: richb on October 31, 2013, 04:29:26 PM
The end of the story - Sandford goes full-retard...

Sanford to ban Neighborhood Watch members from carrying guns
 (http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upiUPI-20131031-091532-9217)

Guess we don't have to feel sorry for anybody raped, beaten or murdered in this area anymore...anybody stupid enough to stay there has nobody to blame but themselves.

Idiots!

 ::mooning::


Hopefully all neighborhood watches disband in protest.  Dumb..........
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on October 31, 2013, 08:21:56 PM
  That's it just ditch what little help the PD has.Patrol your neighborhoods without organizing and see if the come for the guns.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: Libertas on December 05, 2019, 07:49:42 AM
Years later...and George has to still put up with the lies...but now he has Larry Klayman.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/we_are_all_george_zimmerman_now.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/we_are_all_george_zimmerman_now.html)

http://www.larryklayman.com/pdf/191203-ZimmermanvFultonEtal.pdf (http://www.larryklayman.com/pdf/191203-ZimmermanvFultonEtal.pdf)

I would go after the GoebbelsMedia too, but one thing at a time I guess.  This is what happens to people when they get in the way of the One True Belief of Universal Socialism.  And those cheerwhores and shot-callers on the side may escape for now...but their vassals are being targeted now...in the end all will be dealt with the only way they can be.
Title: Re: The All Things Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman Thread
Post by: John Florida on December 05, 2019, 03:21:47 PM
  Should have done it years ago.