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Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Alphabet Soup on December 03, 2011, 01:25:15 PM
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Herman Cain, the insurgent populist whose candidacy has been ensnared by allegations of sexual impropriety, said Saturday that he is leaving the race for the Republican presidential nomination, saying that the allegations have cast a "cloud of doubt over me and this campaign."
"As of today, with a lot of prayer and soul searching, I am suspending my presidential campaign," he said at an event in Atlanta. "I am suspending my presidential campaign because of the continued distraction, the continued hurt . . . on me, on my family, not because we are not fighters, not because I am not a fighter."
More here: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-cain-announcement-20111203,0,889996.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-cain-announcement-20111203,0,889996.story)
Herman, we hardly knew ye....
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And to the pundits who want me to go away I say, "Bless their little hearts",
I'm starting a website and I'm not going anywhere.
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Crap.
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Them damn white chicks will get you every time
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Anybody get the "suspending" rather than "ending?"
If I'm not mistaken it has to do with not quitting until he qualifies for federal matching funds. Most campaigns have a significant amount of debt and I'm sure his is no exception. Getting that big infusion of "free" money will probably keep him out of debt.
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Them damn white chicks will get you every time
My father had a colorful saying when any guy made a particularly egregious and embarrassing mistake ... " Jeez ... He really tramped on his d**k that time ! "
I don't know if Herman Cain tramped on HIS but five or six women sure as hell did !
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I don't know if Herman Cain tramped on HIS but five or six women sure as hell did !
Aren't all black men extremely well-endowed?
::saywhat::
He may have tramped on it
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Whoa Nellie ! ::facepalm::
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I think we have a consensus here that the presidential race was improved with Cain as a candidate. Also, the consensus is that Cain was not quite ready for prime time, and the media thoroughly enjoyed Cain's self-destruction.
What troubles me a bit is that I read commenters who have not given up on Cain as the nominee. And worse, they will bash any other nominee in the process. I believe that Cain showed himself unqualified at the present time, regardless of his marital transgressions.
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Cain probably shouldn't have left any evidence behind. That humongous pearl necklace left around that woman's neck just couldn't be hidden! ::exitstageleft::
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ZZ Top - Pearl Necklace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIJtlozd-Tw#)
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Harken to the duo's kissy face during the debates.
More hearsay confirming Cain's campaign/presidency
not ready for prime time.
[blockquote]
A TOP CAIN ADVISER (http://www.politico.com/playbook/1211/playbook1623.html) tells us the former candidate plans to endorse in the next few weeks — certainly this month, in order to affect the Iowa caucuses — and is most likely to go GINGRICH. They have a personal relationship that goes back to Gingrich’s days as Speaker, a much longer relationship than Cain has with any of the others. And they disagree on few issues. Cain can offer some Iowa organization and his power as a surrogate in the African-American community (including churches), a weakness for the GOP. [/blockquote]
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I think we have a consensus here that the presidential race was improved with Cain as a candidate. Also, the consensus is that Cain was not quite ready for prime time, and the media thoroughly enjoyed Cain's self-destruction.
What troubles me a bit is that I read commenters who have not given up on Cain as the nominee. And worse, they will bash any other nominee in the process. I believe that Cain showed himself unqualified at the present time, regardless of his marital transgressions.
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I agree Cain wasn't ready for prime time, but I have distaste on the avenue(s) used by the media to knock him out of the race. Cain may be guilty, but again, it isn't the point. The media did there job, guilty by reason of innuendo. There job is done and they can now ignore these women and move on to newt. Let's see if these stories are still followed.
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What irritates me is, if any of this is true, then he knowingly launched a campaign with skeletons that would certainly be dragged out of the closet as the campaign gained ground. Has he done damage to the idea of people without a political pedigree seeking high office?
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Until the eras of the "tell all" biography and then, adding media,
"reality" journalism coupled with "it's not the facts it's the seriousness
of the charge" this junk would never have seen the light of day. Didn't
we have a president living with an 17 yr old in the White House around
the turn of the 20th century?
Maybe Herman shall have caused people to reflect and dismiss
this yellow journalism for what it's worth. Nothing.
However, going from private life to the White House is a big step
and it would behoove the interested party to, dabble, participate
at a lower level to "air out" his credibility. It would also give the
candidate experience at hiring suitable staff.
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I'm beggining to sound like a Democrat...don't care about these allegations...all I know an outsider supported by the Tea Party has been torpedoed...we will wind up with a Ruling Class nominee...I will stay home and not vote, I swore to God I would not ever vote for a false choice ever again, and I am not welching on my word...the Ruling Class idiot will be shredded by Obama & Team Evil...and I am planning accordingly.
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What irritates me is, if any of this is true, then he knowingly launched a campaign with skeletons that would certainly be dragged out of the closet as the campaign gained ground. Has he done damage to the idea of people without a political pedigree seeking high office?
I don't understand that ^^. Doesn't everyone know that the media will find it or some loser from your past will take the opportunity for the limelight?
I'm beggining to sound like a Democrat...don't care about these allegations...all I know an outsider supported by the Tea Party has been torpedoed...we will wind up with a Ruling Class nominee...I will stay home and not vote, I swore to God I would not ever vote for a false choice ever again, and I am not welching on my word...the Ruling Class idiot will be shredded by Obama & Team Evil...and I am planning accordingly.
I'm reaching that point for the presidential race...there are local races I will vote in.
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I believe that Cain showed himself unqualified at the present time, regardless of his marital transgressions.
Yep.
Cain's numbers were plateauing before the charges came out because of his policy non-statements. You can't run on a platform of getting "top men" to advise you on stuff. That sort of a "dog ate my homework" attitude toward BASIC issues does not make for a strong base of support.
And there is no way that I will sit out the presidential election just because Reagan's clone is not running. This is the most important election in our lives and I will NOT allow the Dingus a second term just because the perfect candidate was not running on the Republican ticket. The country cannot afford a second term of President Downgrade. I have to be able to tell my children and grandchildren that I voted against the destruction of their future.
A Gingrich or Romney presidency might be less than good for the country. A second term for the Dingus is toxic. Yes, even as much of a disaster as a Ron Paul presidency would be it would be better than what we have now.
Sitting out the election is not an option for me. So yes, I will vote for douchebag or turd sandwich (http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s08e08-douche-and-turd) over toxic waste dump site any day of the week.
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...there is no way that I will sit out the presidential election just because Reagan's clone is not running...
This has been mentioned before, but it bears repeating: Even Reagan wasn't "Reagan" until he sat in the big chair. And he wasn't REALLY Reagan until history began viewing his accomplishments and presidency in hindsight.
These are dire times. I am not hopeful of - but I am open to - the possibility that a great president exists within the field as it is now, and that events will conspire to reveal greatness that we cannot see now.
Yeah, I know, monkeys might fly out of my butt too. I'm just saying.
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I would actually vote for a newt before I would let ObaMao get a second term.
Just say'n
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Yes, yes, yes, any of our candidates is better than
Sir Toxic and his merry band of flotsam and jetsam.
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I'd vote for any of them before Romney. If it's Romney forget it...that part of my ballot will be blank. I've decided. I. can. not. vote. for. him.
This has been mentioned before, but it bears repeating: Even Reagan wasn't "Reagan" until he sat in the big chair. And he wasn't REALLY Reagan until history began viewing his accomplishments and presidency in hindsight.
That may be true --- but I knew many folks in politics who recognized at the time there was greatness occurring.
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I would actually vote for a newt before I would let ObaMao get a second term.
Just say'n
The problem is, if the right candidate isn't there to replace Stymie, a Repub gets to take the full hit for the crap hitting the fan, simply because it was on their watch (even if it happens on January 21st 2013!). This is the way it works...a lefty on watch is not repsonsible for jack squat, anything going wrong is always a Repub's fault, epsecially if the predecessor was a Repub...if a Repub is on watch and the crap hits the fan, the Repub bears all the blame, no matter how big a fustercluck the Dem predecessor was.
It is why only a person capable of pulling a full 180 degree course correction is necessary, nothing less won't stand a snowballs chance in hell of forestalling disaster...179 degrees won't work...to think otherwise is IMO being dishonest with ourselves.
We'll see what the primaries do, but if the present is any indication, the Ruling Class is carrying the day and we are screwed no matter what.
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That's snooker billiards, just play to win every game.
We don't have time to lay for the third election.
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That's snooker billiards, just play to win every game.
We don't have time to lay for the third election.
I'm gonna vote for whomever is left......and I'd take newt over Romney any day. At least newt accomplished things when he was in charge. I don't care for his private life, but he seems to have righted that ship. I don't like his immigration stance, but I didn't like Reagan letting in illegals either. His global warming crap, he has back peddled from it somewhat.
Fiscally, he is right for the job. I hated a few things bush did late, but I have no doubt he was the correct choice in regards to 911.
I look at the field and there is no perfect candidate for me. I dont want to settle, but if I must, let it be with someone who has a fiscally conservative record of accomplishment.....with all his warts, newt does. Maybe perry or bachmann will gain traction....I don't know. I've stated " no newt" but given the choices and the direction the republican race is going, I may have to change from " no newt" to " go newt".
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I would vote for any of them. Any of them. Yes, even the demonstrably unstable and delusional Ron Paul.
The current seat warmer in the WH hates our country. That is unacceptable. I don't think that any of the Republican nominees hate our country. So...that's that.
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So would I. I will vote for a door knob over ErHighness but I don't
delude myself about undisciplined gNewt. He is a Teddy Progressive
with a fuse up 'is arse. And he has supported or put forward just as
many whacko progressive thoughts as he has conservative one's.
Add co-sponsoring the Fairness Doctrine to his list of conservative
deeds. Where would we be today with no Levin, Rush, Savage,
Hannity (he must be included mustn't he?) and also your favorite local
conservative talk show?
Yes, we must vote against the His Princeness but we must also
be prepared for what we will be receiving. Work for Conservative
reps and senators to hold back the tide of "great" thinkers.
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Didn't
we have a president living with an 17 yr old in the White House around
the turn of the 20th century?
I must have missed something . Are you talking about Alice Roosevelt ?
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And there is no way that I will sit out the presidential election just because Reagan's clone is not running.
Sitting out the election is not an option for me. So yes, I will vote for douchebag or turd sandwich (http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s08e08-douche-and-turd) over toxic waste dump site any day of the week.
Agreed . In the end I'll hold my nose and vote AGAINST Stymie rather than FOR the Republican nominee ... if it comes to that .
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That's snooker billiards, just play to win every game.
We don't have time to lay for the third election.
I get where you're coming from, but honestly I don't think we have time for anything political. The good ship Titanic is about to have its hull ripped open from stem to stern. It's a foregone conclusion.
I'd still prefer to have anyone but Obama in power, and will vote accordingly, but I know it is ultimately not going to matter much.
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That's snooker billiards, just play to win every game.
We don't have time to lay for the third election.
I get where you're coming from, but honestly I don't think we have time for anything political. The good ship Titanic is about to have its hull ripped open from stem to stern. It's a foregone conclusion.
I'd still prefer to have anyone but Obama in power, and will vote accordingly, but I know it is ultimately not going to matter much.
Indeed, it is why screwing up this election bites so bad, we do not have a third election to worry about so the snooker allusion is moot. I fully expect Romney and his immense warchest, and his deep Ruling Class support in DC, the media & consulting ranks to secure the nomination rather handily. gNewt is prone to the grand fvckup, he can't help it, he'll torpedo his own candidacy. Perry can't get any traction or shake the image he is a doddering fool. In addition, I foresee Paul mounting a third party bid...and Stymie will be soiling the Big Chair another 4 years.
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So would I. I will vote for a door knob over ErHighness but I don't
delude myself about undisciplined gNewt. He is a Teddy Progressive
with a fuse up 'is arse. And he has supported or put forward just as
many whacko progressive thoughts as he has conservative one's.
Add co-sponsoring the Fairness Doctrine to his list of conservative
deeds. Where would we be today with no Levin, Rush, Savage,
Hannity (he must be included mustn't he?) and also your favorite local
conservative talk show?
Yes, we must vote against the His Princeness but we must also
be prepared for what we will be receiving. Work for Conservative
reps and senators to hold back the tide of "great" thinkers.
Yea, with newt, we will need a true conservative majority in the house and senate, but I do believe all could agree to eliminate the spending. Cut taxes. Promote job creation. If these could be accomplished, the WH would at least be ours for 8 years, hopefully that would be a good thing. Lol
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we will need a true conservative majority in the house and senate
Been thinking about that the last day or so.
I think I heard on Levin that Obama was saying he would veto something because he already has the authority to whatever it was.
The power of the executive has grown so much that our checks and balances are way out of kilter.
Congress has neither the balls nor the spine to take up this battle.
Unfortunately, a conservative congress may not be able to solve it.
Washington is irreparrably broken
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Arresting Holder would be a good sign.
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So would smoke over DC...
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So would smoke over DC...
This brings to mind the flight (93, IIRC) that was enroute to somewhere in DC by the muslim murderers, the one a brave band of American citizens forced into that field in PA. instead. It causes me to wonder how much grief we might have been spared had it not been detoured. I know that sounds .... cold, wrong in some ways; nevertheless .........
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So would smoke over DC...
This brings to mind the flight (93, IIRC) that was enroute to somewhere in DC by the muslim murderers, the one a brave band of American citizens forced into that field in PA. instead. It causes me to wonder how much grief we might have been spared had it not been detoured. I know that sounds .... cold, wrong in some ways; nevertheless .........
Yes. If those brave souls were destined to meet their maker, much good could've been done by incinerating Capitol Hill. Wrong in some ways; nevertheless......
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So would smoke over DC...
This brings to mind the flight (93, IIRC) that was enroute to somewhere in DC by the muslim murderers, the one a brave band of American citizens forced into that field in PA. instead. It causes me to wonder how much grief we might have been spared had it not been detoured. I know that sounds .... cold, wrong in some ways; nevertheless .........
Yes. If those brave souls were destined to meet their maker, much good could've been done by incinerating Capitol Hill. Wrong in some ways; nevertheless......
If's and but's...
Only the Allmighty knows...
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This is the hand we've been dealt...I hope we're up to playing it well...
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This is the hand we've been dealt...I hope we're up to playing it well...
I'm certain of one thing: the benevolent and magnanimous mercy of God is the absolute only thing that can save this country now.
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This is the hand we've been dealt...I hope we're up to playing it well...
So far our team appears to be playing Go Fish while the other team is playing Cutthroat.
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This is the hand we've been dealt...I hope we're up to playing it well...
I'm certain of one thing: the benevolent and magnanimous mercy of God is the absolute only thing that can save this country now.
That I believe. But we still have to do our part and prove to be faithful servants.