Author Topic: Backdoor amnesty fades in importance as frontdoor amnesty ascends (Read 30501 times)

John Florida · « **Reply #240 on:** November 12, 2014, 04:27:24 PM »

He's pushing this now only because he can't string them along any longer! He only kept talking about it to get the "Hispanic" vote and never had any intention of bringing this up till now. Think about it, he had a super majority and didn't go near it. Now he need them to start a fight and he's using them again.

Libertas · « **Reply #241 on:** November 14, 2014, 07:47:42 AM »

Problem is, will people nominally on our side, fight?

Rush is right, there is no possibility of traditional Pubbie political posturing of this issue to win votes in 2016 and then maybe (when pigs fly) do something about reversing the illegalities...once done, amnesty will take permanent root quickly, if not met head-on with an iron fist!

Right now, McConnell isn't saying jack sh*t, nothing worth a damn anyway...and that pants-wetting weeping orange creature Boehner is blubbering about some legal challenge or some such useless bullsh*t!

Rush is right, they have to cut off all funding, not just ObamaCare or Fed Dept's involved in Amnesty, those are the reasons to thwart Obama's illegal decrees, but the only Constitutional means the Congress has to enforce its rights under the Law is the power of the purse. Everything must be shut down and not allowed to reopen until Obama is removed by impeachment, by resignation or by angry mob.

But I doubt the Pubbies will play serious, I doubt they can hold any hard line for long and not capitulate...there simply is not anything in their history or DNA that indicates they can win this thing. Barring a miraculous Devine intervention whereby the DemonRats implode and hand a victory to the Pubbies on a golden platter, I think the short answer is we are royally porked.

Libertas · « **Reply #242 on:** November 17, 2014, 07:32:09 AM »

More on the approaching storm...

Republicans have made it clear that if Obama goes forward, it would be the equivalent of giving the middle finger to their incoming majority — and, by extension, the American public, which helped the GOP gain seats in the House and Senate on Nov. 4.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/executive-order-on-immigration-would-ignite-a-political-firestorm/2014/11/16/f36951aa-6da3-11e4-8808-afaa1e3a33ef_story.html

Yeah, well...No Limit is Emperor and doesn't need to answer to jack for squat! So the SCoaMF thinks...

There is a cost to pay if he goes with Imperial Decree, but the extent (and more importantly the timing) of that cost is to be determined.

Certainly, even in reliable DemonRat bastions there is pushback on illegal alien priveldges, so one would think the libiots at a time of political vulnerability would rethink their strategy and urge delay, but...back to those "costs"...

...from the previous link -

There is real long-term political danger here for Republicans. Remember that in the wake of Romney’s defeat, the Republican National Committee commissioned an autopsy to diagnose what went wrong — and what it needed to do to fix it. One of the central conclusions of that document was that Republicans had to be for some sort of comprehensive immigration reform to take that issue off the table for Hispanics and allow the GOP to talk to that community about other things. Here’s the relevant section of that report:
“We are not a policy committee, but among the steps Republicans take in the Hispanic community and beyond, we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our Party’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only. We also believe that comprehensive immigration reform is consistent with Republican economic policies that promote job growth and opportunity for all.”

What should happen if Obama goes Imperial is similar to what happened after the election of 1860...but as we well know, the Pubbies are completely capable of turning on us and so the Porked Factor is still very much alive and is Obama's and the Dem's best ace in the hole.

Being porked by the Pubbies may not stop, just merely delay, the inevitable.

AmericanPatriot · « **Reply #243 on:** November 17, 2014, 07:48:00 AM »

I just read somewhere this morning that McConnell took defunding amnesty off the table because it was "too politically risky"

You know we're going to get amnesty.
Both Boehner and McConnell want it

Libertas · « **Reply #244 on:** November 17, 2014, 07:57:17 AM »

Still. They can screw people over, but they cannot stop a Civil War once it starts...and their fate will be no different than a Democrat's...

Glock32 · « **Reply #245 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:17:06 PM »

And why wouldn't Obama and the Dems push forward with it? Like they care that the voters just spoke loudly against their agenda? Giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens merely sets the table for the next item in the agenda, which is making them full citizens, i.e. new Democrat voters.

Rush has been saying this for years: before the ink even dries on "comprehensive immigration reform" Chucky Schumer and his ilk will be about their decrying "the existence of a 2-tiered citizenship" and how is it fair that they're legal to work and live and pay taxes, but not legal to vote, blah blah blah.

This is nothing more than a government electing a citizenry, rather than the other way around. It disenfranchises me, you, and every other current American citizen. It's treasonous, and it's a legitimate cause for revolt. A government with such crude designs for disenfranchising citizens is a government with no legitimate authority.

Libertas · « **Reply #246 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:48:41 PM »

Quote from: Glock32 on November 17, 2014, 02:17:06 PM

And why wouldn't Obama and the Dems push forward with it? Like they care that the voters just spoke loudly against their agenda? Giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens merely sets the table for the next item in the agenda, which is making them full citizens, i.e. new Democrat voters.

Rush has been saying this for years: before the ink even dries on "comprehensive immigration reform" Chucky Schumer and his ilk will be about their decrying "the existence of a 2-tiered citizenship" and how is it fair that they're legal to work and live and pay taxes, but not legal to vote, blah blah blah.

This is nothing more than a government electing a citizenry, rather than the other way around. It disenfranchises me, you, and every other current American citizen. It's treasonous, and it's a legitimate cause for revolt. A government with such crude designs for disenfranchising citizens is a government with no legitimate authority.

Jefferson and the Founders said as much, what was once necessary and justified for them will also be for us! The Dem's and feckless Pubbie enablers may not want to see that and no doubt will twist themselves into odd characters in order to rationalize against this legitimate tool of We the People, but when push comes to shove...some people shove back...and that is what makes their authoritarianism so dangerous, it is clouded by the appearance of the Representative Republic our Founders created, when in practical operation it was killed off in favor of a corrupt crony system of competing power blocks and resembles nothing of the early nation! That politicans can operate against the will of the people so brazenly illustrates are deep in the drain we already are...not even the hallowed hollowed out remnant we are left with from the Republic of old...democracy...is honored any more.

In a nation without laws, with the misapplication of rules and bought off justice and influence...the people are chattel!!!

Well, not this free person! I'll take their chains and choke them with it!

Libertas · « **Reply #247 on:** January 12, 2015, 07:25:05 AM »

So tired of the meek and useless...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/11/obama-amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants-to-impose-bil/#!

...yeah, billions more to waste, and lives wasted too, don't forget that as we slide down the drain! Billions, so fricken what? The SCoaMF has piled $7.5T on the national debt since he ascended the throne and now this, yet people piss and moan and do exactly what? Oh yeah, not a goddamned thing!

If Congress cannot push back, who will?

If the states and local governments and Sheriffs do not pushback and defy the Imperial Fedcoats, who will?

I'm so tired of this dance...

Libertas · « **Reply #248 on:** January 14, 2015, 06:25:36 AM »

Asshat DeBlasio...OK with cops being targets of criminals...but making illegals feel like non-citizens, we'll that's just damned wrong!

http://weaselzippers.us/210908-comrade-de-blasio-on-id-cards-for-illegals-we-dont-want-them-to-feel-like-second-class-citizens/

This is what f**ked up in the head looks like -

John Florida · « **Reply #249 on:** January 14, 2015, 06:13:20 PM »

Quote from: Libertas on January 14, 2015, 06:25:36 AM

Asshat DeBlasio...OK with cops being targets of criminals...but making illegals feel like non-citizens, we'll that's just damned wrong!

http://weaselzippers.us/210908-comrade-de-blasio-on-id-cards-for-illegals-we-dont-want-them-to-feel-like-second-class-citizens/

This is what f**ked up in the head looks like -

The worthless SOB just wants to change the subject and screws the working stiffs in his city to do it.

Libertas · « **Reply #250 on:** January 22, 2015, 07:42:53 AM »

Obama's template for advancing his real amnesty goal...a new crop of voters for DemonRats to exploit.

Let us be honest and call this what it is...Treason!

But hey, treason has been in vogue on a scale unprecedented in our history for 6 years...what's a couple more, eh?

BITS!

ETA - Oh, speaking of more treason...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/21/new-gop-border-security-bill-removes-border-fences/

Awesome, eh?

Libertas · « **Reply #251 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:50:17 AM »

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-82771776/

Yeah, the Pubbies will fold in the end...the CoC-beholden E-GOPer's will concoct some scheme that appears to get Obama to bend on things all the while the rodent-spawned language gives him everything he wants.

Libertas · « **Reply #252 on:** February 17, 2015, 06:44:52 AM »

File this under "Doesn't mean jack shyt, the Republic is lost":

Federal judge halts Obama amnesty

Who wrote this? A child?

Doesn't stop squat! Have US Marshalls been dispatched to DHS?

Obama and his minions are moving ahead with their illegal illegal scam.

And as Sen. Sessions has documented and we here as well have documented numerous times, the Obama Regime's unconstitutional acts...hundreds of them have yet to be stopped by legal action (even when legal action includes an injunction!) or legislative action (by enacting/revising laws or defunding departments), so what the frick is going to stop this dictator this time?

Libertas · « **Reply #253 on:** February 19, 2015, 11:42:18 AM »

It's really getting stupid out there...

POS annouces it will raise a stink. Drop dead, please. I will cheer!

Know your local traitors -

Mayor Bill de Blasio, New York, New York
Mayor Kasim Reed, Atlanta, Georgia
Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, Baltimore, Maryland
Mayor Muriel Bowser, District of Columbia
Mayor Byron Brown, Buffalo, New York
Mayor Pedro Segarra, Hartford, Connecticut
Mayor Annise Parker, Houston, Texas
Mayor Paul Soglin, Madison, Wisconsin
Mayor Betsy Hodges, Minneapolis, Minnesota
Mayor Michael Nutter, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Mayor Bill Peduto, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Mayor Lovely Warren, Rochester, New York
Mayor Francis Slay, St. Louis, Missouri
Mayor James Diossa, Central Falls, Rhode Island
Mayor Tom Butt, Richmond, California
Mayor Javier Gonzales, Santa Fe, New Mexico
Mayor Stephanie Miner, Syracuse, New York
Mayor Tom Barrett, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Mayor Noam Bramson, New Rochelle, New York
Mayor Michael Hancock, Denver, Colorado
Mayor Virg Bernero, Lansing, Michigan
http://iotwreport.com/?p=275190

Should be hounded out of office, impeached, repealed...flushed into a sewer...

Cruz-Obama manufacturing forged documents for illegals. Oh, OK, so illegal act about illegals #201...whatchya gonna do about it?

Tick...tock...

Libertas · « **Reply #254 on:** February 25, 2015, 08:12:27 AM »

McConnell bends over, set to give Obama and the CoC E-GOPer's their wish...

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/mitch-mcconnell-announces-a-vote-on-a-clean-dhs-funding-bill-is-coming-20150224

Awesome fricken leadership, eh? Damn, glad this is the best we can do, huh?

/

R.I.H.!!!

No doubt more illegal immigrant worship quotes will be spilling from the gossamer lips of Jeb Bush.

R.I.H.!

And hey, US House? Send these victims/relatives of victims of illegals back home, nobody gives a damn. The Senate just told them they don't matter.

America c.2015...it sucks and looks to get a whole lot worse.

ETA - Oh crap, this seals it!

White House Now Calling Illegal Immigrants “Americans-In-Waiting”…

Issue closed! CoC/E-GOP stooges will never go against Americans-In-Waiting!

John Florida · « **Reply #255 on:** March 01, 2015, 11:58:08 AM »

Definitions and accuracy have been out the window since they were undocumented workers instead of CRIMINAL ILLEGALS.

Libertas · « **Reply #256 on:** March 17, 2015, 11:56:16 AM »

If President Barack Obama’s immigration plan gets past a federal court injunction, and if 60 percent of illegals apply for deferred action protection under the plan, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) agency projects that it may have to hire an additional 3,100 employees, with a total program cost of up to $484 million a year.

And still...the Pubbies will fall over themselves to make this happen, stage as many fraudulent votes to make this happen, pull every trick to make this happen.

benb61 · « **Reply #257 on:** March 17, 2015, 01:40:12 PM »

Quote from: Libertas on March 17, 2015, 11:56:16 AM

If President Barack Obama’s immigration plan gets past a federal court injunction, and if 60 percent of illegals apply for deferred action protection under the plan, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) agency projects that it may have to hire an additional 3,100 employees, with a total program cost of up to $484 million a year.

And still...the Pubbies will fall over themselves to make this happen, stage as many fraudulent votes to make this happen, pull every trick to make this happen.

That is over $156,000/year, not a bad salary if you can get it.

Libertas · « **Reply #258 on:** March 17, 2015, 02:01:41 PM »

Quote from: benb61 on March 17, 2015, 01:40:12 PM

Quote from: Libertas on March 17, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
If President Barack Obama’s immigration plan gets past a federal court injunction, and if 60 percent of illegals apply for deferred action protection under the plan, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) agency projects that it may have to hire an additional 3,100 employees, with a total program cost of up to $484 million a year.

And still...the Pubbies will fall over themselves to make this happen, stage as many fraudulent votes to make this happen, pull every trick to make this happen.

That is over $156,000/year, not a bad salary if you can get it.

While the joy of subjugating citizens you loath is priceless...

Libertas · « **Reply #259 on:** April 08, 2015, 07:07:18 AM »

Heh, this is interesting!

President Obama’s new deportation amnesty will remain halted, a federal judge in Texas ruled Tuesday night in an order that also delivered a judicial spanking to the president’s lawyers for misleading the court.

Judge Andrew S. Hanen, who first halted the amnesty in February, just two days before it was to take effect, said he’s even more convinced of his decision now, particularly after Mr. Obama earlier this year said he intends for his policies to supersede federal laws.

Judge Hanen pointed to Mr. Obama’s comments at a February town hall when the president warned immigration agents to adhere to his policies or else face “consequences.”

“In summary, the chief executive has ordered that the laws requiring removal of illegal immigrants that conflict with the 2014 DHS directive are not to be enforced, and that anyone who attempts to do so will be punished,” Judge Hanen wrote.

“This is not merely ineffective enforcement. This is total non-enforcement,” the judge continued, saying that Mr. Obama’s own descriptions of how he is carrying out his policies have hurt his case.

The administration has appealed Judge Hanen’s ruling, but also asked the judge to reconsider.

On Tuesday the judge not only refused to reconsider, but also said the administration misled him when it said no part of the amnesty had been implemented, and the lawyers bungled their attempt to try to repair the damage by filing an “advisory” with the judge early last month.

“Whether by ignorance, omission, purposeful misdirection, or because they were misled by their clients, the attorneys for the government misrepresented the facts,” the judge said, adding that he was stunned the government waited for two more weeks after his ruling to inform him that the applications had already been processed.

Instead, the judge granted Texas’s request for limited discovery, demanding the federal government turn over documents showing its thought-process as it grappled with how to tell the court that it had already been processing applications.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/7/obama-motion-immediately-restart-amnesty-rejected-/?page=2#ixzz3WiciagNZ

Purposeful misdirection, these are proglodyte statists we are talking about Judge, come on, man?!