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Topics => TEOTWAWKI => Topic started by: Weisshaupt on November 13, 2016, 10:02:12 AM

Title: 'memberberry sauce
Post by: Weisshaupt on November 13, 2016, 10:02:12 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/real-civil-war-possible#comment-8452247 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/real-civil-war-possible#comment-8452247)

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Is a real civil war possible? Unlikely. The electorate is too degraded to actually get off their couches to fight, apart from the fact few know how to use a gun anymore. Besides, 25% of the US is on antidepressants or other psychoactive drugs; they’re too passive to want radical change. Almost half the country is on some form of the dole; they fear having their doggy dishes taken away. More than half the country is obese; fat people tend to avoid street fights. The median age in the US is 38; old people don’t usually get in fights. Anyway, everybody lives on their electronic devices, not the real world.

You’ll notice that voting for Trump and Hillary broke along cultural lines. The Republicans won the rural areas (which are dropping in population); the Democrats won the cities (which are growing). The Reps are white (and becoming no more than a plurality); the Dems have most of the so-called “people of color”, who used to be called “colored people” (and are becoming a majority). The Reps did better with males; the Dems better with females, who tend to see the world in softer and gentler shades. The Reps are favored by native-born Americans; the Dems are favored by immigrants, who often have very different values. The Reps represent the diminishing middle-class; the Dems represent the growing underclass. The Reps did better with older people, who are on their way out; the Dems did better with younger people, indoctrinated by academia and the media, who are on their way up.

None of this looks good for the future of traditional American culture. In fact, Hillary won the popular vote. That means, demographics being what they are, the Republicans are in more trouble next time. With current immigration and birth patterns, the constituency of the Democrats should gain about 2% every four-year election cycle in the future. Even more important, as we leave the eye of the storm that started in 2007, and go into the trailing edge of the economic hurricane, the Trump administration will be blamed. There will, therefore, be a radical reaction away from what it’s believed to represent in 2020.

It used to be the Reps and the Dems differentiated mostly on ideological grounds. Now it’s much more on cultural grounds. Allow me to identify the elephant in the room, and spell out the real nature of the Democratic Party.

The Democratic party is a cesspool filled with leftist social engineers, academics, busy-body pundits, the “elite”, cultural Marxists, race baiters, racial “minorities” who see race as their main identity, radical feminists and LBGT types, entitled underachievers, statists, the soft-headed, the envy-driven, the stupid, professional losers, haters of free markets, and people who simply hate the idea of America. I can’t imagine anyone of good will, or even common decency, being a member of today's Democratic Party. It needs to be flushed. But it will only get stronger in the near future, for many reasons.

But it’s an honest party—they generally say what they believe, even if it’s repulsive to anyone who values things like liberty. Interestingly, there are no Dinos—unless they’re Stalinists or Maoists who think the others aren’t going far enough. The party has absolutely no redeeming values.

A real battle for the soul of the country is shaping up. But I fear it won’t be heroic, so much as sordid. The knaves versus the fools. The Dems are the evil party, but the Reps are just the stupid party.

Why? Trump and the Trumpers have no ideology except a vision of a vanished world. They’re understandably angry, but don’t know what to do about it. They have no real program, except to say the Dems have gone too far. No coherent philosophy, just a nebulous belief that the Democrats are wrong. They’re justifiably fed up with the Establishment that gave them non-entities like Dole, McCain, and Romney.


So South Park has to switch gears last week, but they were pushing this idea as well.  That Trump support is driven by a longing for an imaginary time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndI9vkgw_1Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndI9vkgw_1Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2zcv5AfaM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2zcv5AfaM)

Only it wasn't imaginary. And Suggesting that vision of a vanished world  had no ideology is disingenuous. Individual Rights and Freedom, rule of law, and limited Government are ideological.  The author is correct that these ideologies are so ingrained into eac side we have become not Americans who think differently, but two ethnic tribes.  For the first time Traditional Americans voted as a ethnic tribe- and yes that tribe is MOSTLY white, but not entirely.  Its a see change for sure,  and its an indication we are moving TOWARDS civil war - not away from it.  The Libtards refusal to accept the election results  is a symptom.  Conservatives too would have seen the election as proof the election had been rigged, and the system illegitimate ( in tier own cultural terms. UNder Democrats there is no Rule of law)

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Why did Trump win? Two reasons.

    First, “Cultural Americans” know that their culture is dying, and their standard of living is declining. They sensed—correctly—that this would be their “last hurrah”, their last real kick at the cat. Trump is likely the last white male president. Unless a rabid statist like Tim Kaine is elected in 2020, with promises of a new and more radical New Deal. Or ongoing wars tilt the odds towards a general, most of whom are still white males.

     

    Second, don’t forget that Trump wasn’t the only protest candidate in the primaries. There was Bernie. His supporters know that Hillary and the Dem insiders stole it from him, and they’re still very unhappy. Many abstained from voting for Hillary because of the theft. A few probably voted for Trump out of spite. Or because they wanted to burn the house down. Nobody says this.

Perversely, they’ll get their wish. The Greater Depression will deepen under Trump, even if he makes the right moves. Which will play into the election of someone from the Democrat cesspool in 2020. So maybe the Trump victory isn’t such a good thing after all.

But let’s look at the bright side. All things considered, we’re in for some wonderful free (kind of) entertainment

Was Trump a last Hurrah vote? Yeah, sure, in that it was a desperate attempt to delay  the inevitable bloody and awful Civil war. We have already discussed that this may put us at a greater disadvantage when the war comes,  but if we get to 2020 and the Democrats win ( and they might for all of the reasons the Author puts forth... even though he doesn't even mention the margin of cheat)   But lets say there is no cheat who here is gonna say " yep , its over. The majority believe we should be sacrificed for the greater good. So I agree, and I will let them? "  We will all be 4 years older, and that plays into that "greater disadvantage" we talked about, but it doesn't change the fact that I will go down in my driveway before I accept my role as Democrat human sacrifice. I  will sacrifice my self and I will make them pay as dearly as I can for it.

Title: Re: 'memberberry sauce
Post by: Alphabet Soup on November 13, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Interesting.

My newly refreshed optimism is colored with the promise that, should the winds turn against my favored point of view I can simply become a progressive and burn the whole f**king thing to the ground.

Go ahead, make my day
Title: Re: 'memberberry sauce
Post by: Libertas on November 14, 2016, 07:15:15 AM
Heh, I too chortle with dripping sarcasm!  Everything about the left is about power and control for the ruling elite and self-indulgent obedience in the masses...as long as the latter get their crumbs from the Establishment table and have their masters to punish their tormentors they are willing to be serfs.  Now that they've been soundly repudiated at the polls despite the rampant lying, cheating and racketeering...they are having toddler-like meltdowns.  They've been coddled and pandered to their whole lives by lazy stupid parents, lazy stupid friends, lazy stupid public school indoctrinators, lazy stupid media, lazy stupid entertainers, lazy stupid democrats, lazy stupid employers and lazy stupid politicians.

Go ahead, start a Civil War, let's see how that works out for y'all lazy stupid bastards!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: 'memberberry sauce
Post by: Libertas on November 21, 2016, 07:30:32 AM
Another post this theme echoing points we ourselves have made.

https://christianmerc.blogspot.com/2016/11/secession.html