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Title: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 22, 2012, 09:28:03 AM
I refuse to pay for HBO because of the piece of dung Bill Maher. But the Mrs and I were very conflicted when their series "Game of Thrones" began its first season last year. We both read and thoroughly enjoyed the book series "A Song of Fire and Ice" by George R.R. Martin, upon which GoT is based.

"Based" is not accurate. We just finished watching season one on Blue-Ray, and I believe GoT is the most accurate literary adaptation to screen I've ever seen. Very little creative license is taken - although the couple instances that it is taken seem pointless, gratuitous, and agenda-driven. All the major and minor characters are included, and well cast. Sean Bean (Boromir from LotR) plays Lord Eddard Stark, a main character in season one. All major and most minor events in the book are replayed on the screen in chronological order. The uniqueness of the landscapes and architecture described in the books is faithfully recreated. It was quite pleasing to see the story I read actually unfold on the screen. From what I understand, Martin himself had a strong hand in consultation for the series.

In short, the story takes place in a mythical land and time of swords, mysticism, cruelty, and ancient lore. The "civilized" kingdom is separated from a mysterious wild Northern land by an ice-wall, hundreds of feet tall, guarded by a rag-tag ancient order. The Wall is AWESOME. In the South, seven families with their own realms and bannermen jockey for the Iron Throne. It is a harsh world; a harsh tale. When Winter comes, its end is not definite, and can last for generations. There is little joy, and much sorrow, as the political machinations of the seven families take their toll on any who find themselves lacking at the "Game of Thrones". I'll tell you right now, Martin is an author who has no compunctions about killing characters he works hard to develop, and the series stays true to it.

One thing about the books is Martin's unapologetic use of sex and rape as primary aspects of the story. Kings and Lords and their bastard sons, whores, incest, etc, are part of the world he created, so if that kind of thing is too much to be of entertainment, don't watch, because the program doesn't shy away from that aspect of the books. There is gratuitous sex and full frontal nudity of a softcore pornographic nature. But it is most definitely in context. Without that aspect, the program would not be what the books portrayed, and without that aspect in the books, the story could not have been told.

The area of creative license I mentioned earlier involved taking one character who was effeminate in the books, and pairing him in a homosexual tryst with another character from the books who was definitely NOT a homosexual. That change adds nothing of value to the story or the episode in which it occurred, so it is clear that it is a case of an HBO program doing the obligatory legwork for homosexual radicals.

If you like the genre similar to LotR, and can handle a far grittier world than Tolkien's, I'd definitely give this one a shot. We swallowed-up ten episodes in three evenings, and can hardly stand it that we have to wait a year for season two.

I would also highly recommend the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 22, 2012, 09:38:06 AM
(http://www.thinkhero.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Game-of-Thrones-title.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on March 22, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
You can buy the BluRays for just the cost of 2 months of HBO anyway...if you just have a little patience to wait the few months.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on June 14, 2012, 07:26:50 AM
Another one added to the my list. (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/13/video-the-obligatory-game-of-thrones-puts-bushs-head-on-a-pike-post/)

Nice knowing you, George.  Too bad you put your name on this product now advocating political violence in the real world.

Hollywood trash just couldn't help themselves, having to f*** up something that doesn't even happen in this world.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 14, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
Such piss-poor decision making. If you need head-on-a-pike props, and what you have laying around the prop department happens to look like George Bush, dressing it in a wig and using it is one thing. Advertising that you did so in the comments of the DVD is another. That shows complete ignorance in a "What? Doesn't EVERYONE hate George Bush and think he should die?" kind of way.

Idiot.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 14, 2012, 11:09:20 AM
If "Game of Ho's" then for sure Obama would have found himself in a starring role...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on June 14, 2012, 11:57:54 AM
If "Game of Ho's" then for sure Obama would have found himself in a starring role...

I won't link as it's beyond any 'warning for content' warnings but IOTW has a very graphic take on that very idea.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 14, 2012, 05:21:46 PM
If "Game of Ho's" then for sure Obama would have found himself in a starring role...

I won't link as it's beyond any 'warning for content' warnings but IOTW has a very graphic take on that very idea.

Some of their stuff is gross and graphic, but a lot is funny as all heck.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
I don't know if anybody else watches this show... I ate my words at the outset of this thread. Never say never. We buckled and ordered HBO after watching Season 2 of GoT on BlueRay. Didn't want to wait the full year until season 3 release, and the mrs. really wanted it, so, we got it.

Season 3 is just as excellent, although now three seasons into it, they've begun diverting from the literary work more. Main storylines are in tact, but events than never happened in the books are added, and some that did aren't happening.

Ran across this (http://imgur.com/a/FL1Ov) and thought it was funny. If you watch the show, you might think so too. If not, don't bother clicking, cuz it won't make any sense...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2013, 04:24:55 PM
  I've been watching it from day one and is the reason I'm not here between 9/10 on Sundays.It's the talk of the day on monday at work.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 04, 2013, 05:49:59 PM
Game of Thrones Maisie Williams - Arya Starks Reaction Video - Spoiler Alert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQaERd-L3IM#)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 07, 2014, 08:20:51 AM
Anybody catch the season 4 premier? Great TV. Although, dammit, the books didn't have faggots.

Arya was reunited with Needle. Loved that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on April 07, 2014, 08:50:26 AM
  I'm addicted!! I have a few guys at work that are just as bad as me and we talk about it at work and try to predict the next thing to happen. I have predicted that Dog would take a turn for the better and that the youngest Stark daughter would be a major player,and here it is.

     Now I have to wait till sunday!!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on April 07, 2014, 09:26:10 AM
Since I haven't heard of any more asshattery, and maybe the producers have learned a lesson, I also ate my words and bought the first season.  I haven't gotten farther than that, nor would I ever pay for any cable, let alone HBO.

They're already running against the wall as Martin is well into the Fat Elvis stage of his career and is getting quite lazy about actually writing further along in the series.  The books have not progressed, since this series started.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 07, 2014, 09:33:25 AM
I read an article a few days ago that said Martin has met with producers and given them a detailed outline of how the story plays out - who lives, who dies, how they die, who kills who, major events, who ultimately ends up on the Iron Throne, etc.

Apparently he is close to releasing the next book, which would be REALLY smart. Striking while the Iron Throne is hot, pun intended.

Also, the plan is for 7 or 8 seasons, and there is talk of the finale being a feature film.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on April 07, 2014, 09:46:34 AM
After watching season 1, last month, I looked up some of the actors, to learn more.  One problem with hiring teens to play children is that teens grow...fast.

Arya Stark with a rack that would make Dolly Parton bow in awe.  I just can't wrap my mind around that one.  ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 07, 2014, 11:01:15 AM
After watching season 1, last month, I looked up some of the actors, to learn more.  One problem with hiring teens to play children is that teens grow...fast.

Arya Stark with a rack that would make Dolly Parton bow in awe.  I just can't wrap my mind around that one.  ::hysterical::

Yup, Arya and Bran are growing up too fast for the supposed chronology, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on February 06, 2015, 02:26:56 PM
Ok, so I have finally gotten into this show.  For some reason I tend to get into the popular shows only after a few seasons have been released.  I sort of like that though, because I can binge watch entire seasons and I don't have to wait a week after those cliffhangers.

I just finished Season 3.  So finally I saw the infamous "Red Wedding" and yeah it was a gut punch alright.  I had already heard so many references to the Red Wedding (South Park even spoofed it) that I knew there was going to be a wedding where a lot of main characters died.  For some reason though, I always imagined it was going to be Joffrey's wedding.  I didn't put two and two together that it was going to be this one until most of the guests had cleared out of the great hall.  I was like "that's a bit odd that it's the Starks and a bunch of Frey's men leering in the back of the hall," then Catelyn seemed spooked by some change in the musical note (or maybe she saw the archers hiding behind the musicians on the balconies).

I suddenly thought back to the exchange between Arya and the Hound earlier in the episode.  She wanted to go to her family right away, and the Hound told her she was full of fear behind her stoic face.  Fear that the closer she got, the greater the chance of something awful happening.  So I kind of knew what was coming, at that point.

Talk about reversals in this show.  I go from hating Jaime Lannister to thinking he might have finally become more humble (possibly even a decent human being?) and I'm sort of thinking even Theon might redeem himself after what he has gone through.

I'll start on Season 4 when it becomes available for streaming next week.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 06, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
...I had already heard so many references to the Red Wedding (South Park even spoofed it) that I knew there was going to be a wedding where a lot of main characters died.  For some reason though, I always imagined it was going to be Joffrey's wedding.  I didn't put two and two together that it was going to be this one until most of the guests had cleared out of the great hall.  I was like "that's a bit odd that it's the Starks and a bunch of Frey's men leering in the back of the hall," then Catelyn seemed spooked by some change in the musical note (or maybe she saw the archers hiding behind the musicians on the balconies)...

She recognized the musicians beginning to play the traditional song of House Lannister: "The Rains of Castamere." The song made her aware of the betrayal. I can see the look on her face in my mind even now.

The Rains of Castamere (Red Wedding Edition) (Cover) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygcff7xaZfk#ws)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on February 06, 2015, 05:05:49 PM
Ahh, interesting.  I was wondering if it was something like that -- like that world's version of a funeral requiem or something.  Did you know that from the books, or is it something you read about afterward?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 06, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
Ahh, interesting.  I was wondering if it was something like that -- like that world's version of a funeral requiem or something.  Did you know that from the books, or is it something you read about afterward?

After seeing it, I recollected it from the books, although it was at least 10 years ago that I read them, so I'm not sure how accurate my recollection is. I know the song title is definitely from the books - and maybe the lyrics too - and the show made mention of it a few times in foreshadowing. If you go back and watch the series, you'll hear that song played more than once. It's kind of like the Lannister theme, and it played that role in the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on February 06, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
  Can't wait for it to start.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Weisshaupt on February 08, 2015, 08:49:10 AM
Write Like the Wind (George R. R. Martin) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7lp3RhzfgI#ws)

I will start this ONLY after its done.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 08, 2015, 10:20:17 AM
I don't know if anyone has read the "Wheel ot Time" fantasy series by Robert Jordan. Epic doesn't even begin to describe it. 14 books in total - ranging in the neighborhood of 800-1200 pages in hardcover.

Jordan was a funny looking little troll of a fat man like Martin. My wife and friends and I who loved to discuss the books would often joke that Jordan was going to die before the books were finished. It was obvious around book 7ish or so that the story was so massive; the main characters so numerous; the created world so sprawling and complex; the numerous plots so simultaneously interwoven and disparate; that the next book was never going to be the last book.

Well, he died. Fortunately, before he did, his publishers demanded that he provide a coherent and specific outline of how the story was to play out and ultimately end. He did it, and after his death, the publisher (his wife) auditioned and hired a fella named Brandon Sanderson to faithfully complete the last three books in the series. He did a really, really good job. You really couldn't tell it wasn't Jordan's work, with few exceptions. They even credit the books to Robert Jordan, with Sanderson as a secondary credit.

I think the same thing is going to happen with George R.R. Martin. I don't want to predict someone's death - and I guess I'm not even doing that. I'm just saying that he's going to die before the books are ever written. He'd be smart now to be creating detailed notes and making sure his estate has legal rights in proper order for any derivative work created after his death.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on February 09, 2015, 08:31:00 AM
Help me out with Jordan.  Tell me why I couldn't get into Wheel of Time, but I instantly got into Game of Thrones.  I read book 1 and it was a chore to finish.  Never felt like reading another.

As for finishing, Martin has already stated that Whatever of Winter isn't happening in 2015.  That's it, isn't it?  After next season the TV show has run out of books?

Heh.  My wife, who doesn't like violent movies, can't watch Game of Thrones fast enough.  I assume, season 4 is the next "Big Wedding", right?  Haven't watched it yet.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on February 09, 2015, 09:38:09 AM
Idunno Hawk. I personally don't know anyone who's read the Jordan books who didn't like them. They are a bit overblown with adjectives. Perhaps lengthy detailed description of every single component in a scene isn't your bag?

Another decent series in the same genre is the "Sword of Truth" series by Terry Goodkind. He actually unfurls a bold conservative flag a few books into it. He decisively takes the story from pure fantasy to a detailed manifesto against collectivism.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on February 13, 2015, 02:49:21 PM
I am now current on Game of Thrones, waiting for Season 5 to start.  I like how the individual story arcs are slowly beginning to coalesce.  When the "god" under the tree told Bran "you will never walk again...but you will fly" I am assuming this means he's going to enter the consciousness of one of the dragons, i.e. the large dragon that is currently missing from Danaryes.

As an aside, my ranking of "Hottest Chicks on Game of Thrones" now places Margaery at the top of the list.  Something slightly unusual but mucho sexy about her look.
Title: Game of Thrones Negro Outrage: The "Sand Snakes" are too Whitish
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 03, 2015, 07:44:57 PM
You can't make this sh*t up.

The "Sand Snakes" - the bastard Martel daughters from the land of Dorne - are supposed to be "dark skinned" according to the books. The Game of Thrones series has cast them as - get this - dark skinned.

But see, swarthy complexion and dark hair are not good enough for Today's Grievance-Negroes™. No, the actresses cast to portray the Sand Snakes are too Whitish in their features.

http://www.styleite.com/news/sand-snakes-or-snow-snakes-new-game-of-thrones-casting-is-already-causing-controversy/ (http://www.styleite.com/news/sand-snakes-or-snow-snakes-new-game-of-thrones-casting-is-already-causing-controversy/)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Pandora on March 03, 2015, 09:00:38 PM
Tired of them, of it, of everything.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on March 03, 2015, 11:37:32 PM
I bet they really enjoyed the plot lines of Daenerys -- with her pale skin and platinum blonde hair -- being virtually worshiped by all the little brown urchins she frees from the slave cities.  I bet the cultural commentators at places like Slate and Salon got themselves worked up into quite a froth of rage over that.

I wish GoT were set in actual medieval Europe just so there would be no non-white characters at all, just to piss them off.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on March 04, 2015, 06:35:09 AM
There would be non-whites Glock, they'd be the Moors being slayed by the likes of Charles Martel.  Let them get in a lather about that...see if I care any less.

 ::stirpot::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 19, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
So Season 5 is now in full swing.  Discuss.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Pandora on April 19, 2015, 09:50:13 PM
Can't.  Don't watch it; won't.  I have a decade or more on some of you and I tell you I am disgusted by much of what passes today for entertainment.  I mention age because I have not become jaded through more exposure, but sickened.

I had to stop watching Sons of Anarchy.  I lasted through almost the first episode of the final season and turned it off for good.  Same with Vikings -- it's just another version of Sons, long ago and Norse.  I don't allow the sex bullsh*t in my face either; Sex in the City, Modern Family -- bah! -- Sister Wives ...... the list goes on as my viewing preferences narrow.

I recognize these are most probably truthful representations of men and women throughout history and I told myself to look at them in order to get a full measure of that for which we are in store, yet I couldn't.  I wouldn't.  It will come, soon enough, and I refuse to steep myself in depravity one full beat before I must.

Excuse the rant, carry on.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 20, 2015, 01:55:47 AM
I get your point Pan. But I like watching GoT, nonetheless. I groan with disgust every time they do some homo sh*t, and I think the show would be every bit as good without the overt sexuality. But I watch in spite of those things because I like the genre, and everything else about the show is high quality.

Kudos to you for following your moral compass in your TV watching. It's admirable to guard your heart, eyes, ears, mind, and spirit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Pandora on April 20, 2015, 05:49:14 AM
Yeah, I got on my moral high-horse there a bit and I didn't intend to denigrate your choices, IDP, or that of others, so thanks for being gracious about it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2015, 06:58:25 AM
So, is now a good time to admit I've been trying to get caught up on this stuff?   ::saywhat::

I'm kinda jumping in mid-stream so I suppose I ought to pick up from the start and work it all threw...

Just my personal opinion...more dragons, less (zero!) phaggs, please.

And for the record Margaery Tyrell (Natalie Dormer) is definitely a hottie! 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on April 20, 2015, 08:00:46 AM
The King Joffrey (any resemblance to the little boy who occupies our White House is purely coincidental) poisoning was well done.

Yes, I'm always a year behind those of you who shell out $20 per month for HBO.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 20, 2015, 09:42:57 AM
One of the more enjoyable aspects of being a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe is that I don't have to dance around all squirmy-like trying toward any pretense. I don't care for or about phags - don't GAF about their agenda, don't want them breathing my air.

I celebrate the discomfort that my attitudes bring about to hypocrites. They sniff and wrinkle their nose at me and voice their displeasure. And I say, "don't like it? Leave!" Why would I voluntarily surround myself with such people anyway?

Oh, and nice rant Pan - keep it up!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 20, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
I almost forgot.

Game of Thrones? Never saw it. And now that I know they have fudge packers in it I never will.

 ::devil::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 20, 2015, 10:35:52 AM
Here's the thing about the fag scenes, which I was discussing with some coworkers.  Everyone I know has mentioned that they have a viscerally negative reaction to it, and shield their eyes.  This includes people who are otherwise accepting of homos (and I used to be that as well -- accepting -- that is until it became obvious their agenda isn't about "tolerance" at all).  I consider the unconscious and visceral reaction people have as proof that healthy people know they are seeing something repulsive and unnatural, no matter how much effort is made to normalize it.

And yes Libertas, Margaery (Natalie Dormer) is my fav too :).  On a show with an ample supply of attractive females it's tough to pick a favorite, but she has an almost feline look.  A real kitten!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Weisshaupt on April 20, 2015, 11:22:06 AM
  I consider the unconscious and visceral reaction people have as proof that healthy people know they are seeing something repulsive and unnatural, no matter how much effort is made to normalize it.

I grew up in Colorado.  I did not encounter a Cockroach until  I went to school in New York City.  I had a visceral reaction to it.  Simply seeing it made me want to vomit. (it was just crawling along the floor, it wasn't on anything else disgusting..)  Some deep instinct told me, if you ate something with that around it wasn't good.

I have the same reaction to even thinking about gay sex, much less seeing it. I doubt any amount of  "normalization" in the media is really going to change that- as the instinct IS to shield my eyes, as much as it was to vomit at the cockroach.  Sorry gay people,  what you do is disgusting to me, and always will be, no matter how much gay porn you put on to "normalize" it.  I don't really care what you do in the bedroom,  but you will never have my approval, nor will I ever consider it "normal". Tolerable is the best you will get, and since that isn't good enough for you,  I really don't care if you are hunted to extinction at this point.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
I almost forgot.

Game of Thrones? Never saw it. And now that I know they have fudge packers in it I never will.

 ::devil::

Q-Why do you hate gays?

A-I am normal.

Counter Q - Feel better?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
Here's the thing about the fag scenes, which I was discussing with some coworkers.  Everyone I know has mentioned that they have a viscerally negative reaction to it, and shield their eyes.  This includes people who are otherwise accepting of homos (and I used to be that as well -- accepting -- that is until it became obvious their agenda isn't about "tolerance" at all).  I consider the unconscious and visceral reaction people have as proof that healthy people know they are seeing something repulsive and unnatural, no matter how much effort is made to normalize it.

And yes Libertas, Margaery (Natalie Dormer) is my fav too :).  On a show with an ample supply of attractive females it's tough to pick a favorite, but she has an almost feline look.  A real kitten!

To slay for.   ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 20, 2015, 11:50:51 AM
Yeah, I got on my moral high-horse there a bit and I didn't intend to denigrate your choices, IDP, or that of others, so thanks for being gracious about it.

I didn't feel like my choices were denigrated at all. If anything, you expressed thoughts I have every time I watch such programming. I know that every time I watch one of these shows, I'm justifying something, and I still do it anyway. So your post didn't make me face anything I haven't faced before. You have the strength of your convictions regarding what you feed to your eyes and heart, and I admire it. I personally don't draw the line in the same place, but again, I justify, and I'm ok with it - even though it niggles at me when I do.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 20, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
Back to the content of this season.... They are departing from the books in major ways this season. I think a lot of it has to do with creating dynamics between characters/actors that fans will love.

Tyrion is on his way to Mereen to meet Danerys. That is a possible suggested trajectory in the books, but it hasn't happened yet.

Jaime is on his way to retrieve his daughter Marcella from Dorne, accompanied by the hired sword Bronn. That never happened in the books at all. There, they will presumably encounter Prince Doran Martell (played by Alexander Siddig - Dr. Julian Bashir on STDS9) - an encounter which hasn't been suggested in the books.

Lady Brienne and Podrick are teamed up trying to retrieve Sansa Stark from Littlefinger. Brienne and Pod were never a duo in the books.

I would imagine that trying to move a story forward on over a half dozen different simultaneously unfolding fronts in a series of 5 to 10 minute vignettes is a monumental task. It seems to me that a component of doing it successfully has to be to consider the actors and the characters they portray, and creating encounters between them that serve the story and play well with the audience. It also seems that as it gets further into the story, those decisions being less dependent upon source material would be a natural direction.

Who didn't enjoy the banter between Jaime and Bronn after Jaime's amputation? It was TV magic - a buddy-pairing for the ages.  Why not expand on it, and make them a team in the new season? Who doesn't want to see interaction between under-rated acting powerhouses like Nikolaj Coster Waldau and Alexander Siddig? Make it happen! Who isn't curious about what would happen if the Imp of House Lannister were to meet the Mother of Dragons? Let's do it! Who doesn't appreciate the brooding, scowling, lawful-good noble badassery of Brienne of Tarth played against the loyal-to-a-fault naiveté of Podrick? Road-trip!

As someone who appreciates the books, I'm not having difficulty accepting the changes made to adapt to TV. They could leave out the faggot crap, but other than that, they're doing a good job of it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 20, 2015, 01:49:34 PM
Who didn't enjoy the banter between Jaime and Bronn after Jaime's amputation? It was TV magic - a buddy-pairing for the ages.  Why not expand on it, and make them a team in the new season? Who doesn't want to see interaction between under-rated acting powerhouses like Nikolaj Coster Waldau and Alexander Siddig? Make it happen! Who isn't curious about what would happen if the Imp of House Lannister were to meet the Mother of Dragons? Let's do it! Who doesn't appreciate the brooding, scowling, lawful-good noble badassery of Brienne of Tarth played against the loyal-to-a-fault naiveté of Podrick? Road-trip!


When Jaime told Cersei of his intent to travel to Dorne and get their daughter back, I knew he was going to enlist Bronn in that effort.  Over the last 2 seasons Bronn became one of my favorite secondary characters.  He has that badass sort of aloof, morally ambivalent demeanor.  It will be interesting to see how they proceed in their journey, and how much they play off of Jaime's reputation as a master swordsman (though now unable to fight) with Bronn's actual swordsmanship.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Alphabet Soup on April 20, 2015, 09:18:48 PM
I almost forgot.

Game of Thrones? Never saw it. And now that I know they have fudge packers in it I never will.

 ::devil::

Q-Why do you hate gays?

A-I am normal.

Counter Q - Feel better?

Why yes - yes I do!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 21, 2015, 06:46:29 AM
I almost forgot.

Game of Thrones? Never saw it. And now that I know they have fudge packers in it I never will.

 ::devil::

Q-Why do you hate gays?

A-I am normal.

Counter Q - Feel better?

Why yes - yes I do!

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 21, 2015, 06:48:26 AM
So...

Trouble brewing in Mereen and help (good or bad) is on the way?

Maybe entry into the city should have a height requirement?   ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on April 21, 2015, 07:17:12 AM
They have to depart from the books as the books will never be finished.  Instead of finishing his books, Martin is already off working on another series.  ::pullhair::

Face it.  The only way this series will be finished is by a

GEORGE RR MARTIN

With Brandon Sanderson

kind of arrangement.  The producers are already working as such is happening.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 21, 2015, 12:22:11 PM
So...

Trouble brewing in Mereen and help (good or bad) is on the way?

Maybe entry into the city should have a height requirement?   ;D


I think Varys and Tyrion are going to show Danerys that she can't govern from her high minded idealism alone.  She needs shrewd, calculating pragmatists in her retinue of advisers.  I do think their initial reception is going to be a cold one, possibly even dangerous, since Danerys and Barristan Selmy know Varys was the spymaster handling Jorah previously.  But I think Varys and Tyrion will prove they cannot possibly be loyal to any other claimants in Westeros, and in fact have prices on their heads there.

I'm very interested in how these separate plot lines are going to begin merging.  We see the Tyrion/Varys plot line now merging with the Danerys plot line, and the Stannis/Melisandre/Davos plot line merging with the Jon Snow plot line.  I think somehow we're going to see that Danerys' immunity to fire factors in with Melisandre's whole "Lord of Light" and sacrificing people to him by burning them alive.

I'm also glad to see the return of Jaqen H'gar, or the entity that previously called itself that.  The mysterious dialog between him and Arya is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 21, 2015, 01:09:31 PM
...I'm very interested in how these separate plot lines are going to begin merging.  We see the Tyrion/Varys plot line now merging with the Danerys plot line, and the Stannis/Melisandre/Davos plot line merging with the Jon Snow plot line.  I think somehow we're going to see that Danerys' immunity to fire factors in with Melisandre's whole "Lord of Light" and sacrificing people to him by burning them alive.

I'm also glad to see the return of Jaqen H'gar, or the entity that previously called itself that.  The mysterious dialog between him and Arya is pretty cool.

There is a very credible theory among book enthusiasts that Jon Snow's actual mother is Ned Stark's sister Lyanna, and that his actual father is Prince Rhaegar Targaryen, who abducted her, beginning the war that would depose him to Robert Baratheon. The theory goes that Ned claimed the bastard Snow as his own in an effort to protect the honor of his sister, as well as the identity of Jon as a Targaryan bastard. Several clues planted in the books point to this, which would make Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryan blood half-siblings.

Another credible theory is that Tyrion Lannister is the product of The Mad King Aeris Targaryan raping Tywin's wife Joanna Lannister. This would make Tyrion the uncle of Daenerys and Jon. Many clues point to this as well.

If true, it would fulfill the "three dragon's" prophecy. Daenerys Targaryan, Tyrion Lannister, and Jon Snow - Targaryan "dragon" blood to unite Westeros.

Lots to chew on.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 21, 2015, 01:48:16 PM
Very interesting theories, and definitely plausible.  I've suspected for a while now that there's more to Jon Snow's background than being simply the bastard offspring of Ned Stark and a common woman.  The last conversation he had with Ned, Ned promised that next time they met he'd tell him about his mother.

I had been thinking maybe his mother was a noblewoman, but because of the scandal it would cause they had decided to claim his mother was a lowborn commoner.  The theory of him being Ned's sister's son, fathered by a Targaryen, makes even more sense though, and certainly ties in with this air of "specialness" around Jon Snow.

ETA - if he was fathered by Rhaegar Targaryen, wouldn't that make him Danerys' nephew rather than sibling?  Rhaegar was her older brother, right?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 21, 2015, 02:33:05 PM
See, this is why we need women (well, one of the reasons, anyway! :) ) to explain all this familial relationship stuff...it always messes with my head!  ::bashing::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 21, 2015, 03:27:53 PM
Very interesting theories, and definitely plausible.  I've suspected for a while now that there's more to Jon Snow's background than being simply the bastard offspring of Ned Stark and a common woman.  The last conversation he had with Ned, Ned promised that next time they met he'd tell him about his mother.

I had been thinking maybe his mother was a noblewoman, but because of the scandal it would cause they had decided to claim his mother was a lowborn commoner.  The theory of him being Ned's sister's son, fathered by a Targaryen, makes even more sense though, and certainly ties in with this air of "specialness" around Jon Snow.

ETA - if he was fathered by Rhaegar Targaryen, wouldn't that make him Danerys' nephew rather than sibling?  Rhaegar was her older brother, right?

Yup. Tough to keep it straight! I was thinking Rhaegar was the son of Aeris, and the father of Daenerys and Viserys. But all three were the children of Aeris, which makes it just as you say.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on April 22, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
   I lost track of the blacksmith son of the dead king. But for all the talk about John snow I can't help but feel that the young Stark daughter has a much bigger role in all this.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 22, 2015, 10:34:40 AM
   I lost track of the blacksmith son of the dead king. But for all the talk about John snow I can't help but feel that the young Stark daughter has a much bigger role in all this.

That blacksmith bastard Gendry was held captive by Melisandre and used for blood ritual, until he was released by the Onion Knight, Ser Davos, and sent on a boat back to King's Landing. That was season 3, and he hasn't been heard from since.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on April 22, 2015, 11:28:46 AM
   I lost track of the blacksmith son of the dead king. But for all the talk about John snow I can't help but feel that the young Stark daughter has a much bigger role in all this.

That blacksmith bastard Gendry was held captive by Melisandre and used for blood ritual, until he was released by the Onion Knight, Ser Davos, and sent on a boat back to King's Landing. That was season 3, and he hasn't been heard from since.

 He's got to pop up soon,they just can't leave him out there for ever.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 28, 2015, 06:58:52 AM
I finally got all caught up.

I have to say, they sure took their time killing off that sadistic little bastard kingling...

And who would have thought the least repulsive Lannister would consistently be the dwarf?  He may be a drunk and letcherous hump, but he actually treats most people better than they are treated by their own kind...

PS-Stay away from all weddings!

 ::speechless::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 29, 2015, 06:45:49 AM
So, given the twist in the last episode...should we establish odds if Davos collects on his small fee?

I say the little bugger wriggles free...

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 29, 2015, 09:11:49 AM
So, given the twist in the last episode...should we establish odds if Davos collects on his small fee?

I say the little bugger wriggles free...

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I've seen a still photo of Tyrion sitting on a balcony with Danaerys and other nobles, watching gladiator fights, with Ser Jorah as one of the gladiators! So I don't think he's wriggling free. Somehow Tyrion and Ser Jorah make it to Mereen.

The question that intrigues me is whether Ser Jorah will be vindicated. Remeber that Dany sent him away because she learned that he was conspiring with Lord Verys the Eunuch. She didn't know he was conspiring to HELP her gain the Iron Throne. Will she learn of it? How, and from whom? Will it be before he's killed, or will it be after it's too late?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 29, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
So, given the twist in the last episode...should we establish odds if Davos collects on his small fee?

I say the little bugger wriggles free...

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I've seen a still photo of Tyrion sitting on a balcony with Danaerys and other nobles, watching gladiator fights, with Ser Jorah as one of the gladiators! So I don't think he's wriggling free. Somehow Tyrion and Ser Jorah make it to Mereen.

The question that intrigues me is whether Ser Jorah will be vindicated. Remeber that Dany sent him away because she learned that he was conspiring with Lord Verys the Eunuch. She didn't know he was conspiring to HELP her gain the Iron Throne. Will she learn of it? How, and from whom? Will it be before he's killed, or will it be after it's too late?

I'll bet on "too late", the flow of this thing is consistently in favor of violent ends...

Also...a good question to ponder...when (if ever) is Lady Sansa's run of horrid luck end?  The Bolton bastard might be worse than that little demented twerp who choked to death!

And don't ask me what is going on in the House of Black & White with Arya... 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fordguy_85 on April 29, 2015, 07:03:45 PM
So, given the twist in the last episode...should we establish odds if Davos collects on his small fee?

I say the little bugger wriggles free...

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I've seen a still photo of Tyrion sitting on a balcony with Danaerys and other nobles, watching gladiator fights, with Ser Jorah as one of the gladiators! So I don't think he's wriggling free. Somehow Tyrion and Ser Jorah make it to Mereen.

The question that intrigues me is whether Ser Jorah will be vindicated. Remeber that Dany sent him away because she learned that he was conspiring with Lord Verys the Eunuch. She didn't know he was conspiring to HELP her gain the Iron Throne. Will she learn of it? How, and from whom? Will it be before he's killed, or will it be after it's too late?





Actually, in the books from the best of my remembrance, Ser Jorah was spying on Daenerys for Lord Varys to try and receive a pardon for crimes committed... Slavery if I'm not mistaken. He did have a change of heart, though... Again, this is all IIRC
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 29, 2015, 07:33:04 PM
They've increasingly departed from the books. More so this season than every before.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on April 30, 2015, 07:59:37 AM
I'm noticing the departure in Season 4, even.  Catelyn Stark is still dead, and listed as dead in the wiki, but in the books, she's kind of an undead (for lack of a better term)

Shouldn't Arya be over in that monastery, across the ocean, by now?

And Ser Johan as spy, as mentioned.

Heh.  Was reading Vox Day, yesterday, and he said what I've been saying.  Just get Brandon Sanderson to finish the books, already, as you obviously aren't up to it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 30, 2015, 08:12:34 AM
Season 5 answering a couple of those...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 30, 2015, 11:08:29 AM
Ser Jorah was guilty of selling poachers into slavery.  In all of Westeros, slavery is a major taboo.  He could have been sentenced to death for it, but Ned Stark allowed him to go into exile instead.

King Robert, through Varys, offered a pardon to Jorah if he would agree to spy on Viserys and Danerys Targaryen.  Over the course of this, and especially after the death of Viserys, Jorah began to genuinely believe in Danerys and her claim to the throne.

I wonder how Varys will factor into all this.  Is he genuine in wanting to support Danerys now?  If so, how will he convince her, particularly with one of her new advisors being Ser Barristan -- who would know Varys only too well from their days in King's Landing?

On another note -- if the theory about Tyrion's parentage (fathered by a Targaryen prince) is true, perhaps the dragons will recognize this in him and that will be the proof Danerys needs to trust him?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 30, 2015, 12:05:35 PM
There are many mysteries.

It helps that sites like this exist (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/147) that have maps and such to help put things into perspective, and I like maps and data.  It is curious to me that so much bloodshed is unleashed over the smaller continent of Westeros when there is so much more territory in Essos, and since it has been disclosed that the Lannister mines have run out three years ago (in Season 5 timeframe) part of the mayhem is due to lack of new resources to exploit, thus they have to feed off one another.  Also, I find it not a coincidence that the new Targaryen threat (with armies and dragons) rises in Essos, that the Iron Bank is centered in Braavos (as is the mysterious God of Many Faces cult), that the old oft-mentioned cities of Volantis and the legendary metal and literary culture of Valyria is in Essos.  There must be more resources in that part of the world that haven't been found or rediscovered, and it is this continent that will have a big say in the future of Westeros.

As for plot changes to the book, it appears good performances breed deeper/new story lines (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/26/game-thrones-sansa-ramsay-interview).

Varys may only have a provisional future with Danerys, but I think both he and Tyrion's future with her would be better together than apart.  Anyway, I had not heard this Targaryen angle to Tyrion's parentage...as the Targaryen's favored incest in royal breeding, it could more readily explain the dwarf mutation of an offspring leaping from that half of the gene pool...a practice conducted by Cersi and the King Slayer...and who knows how the at-present mild King remains mild?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 30, 2015, 03:06:16 PM
On the Essos vs. Westeros thing, the two continents are vaguely analagous to Western Europe (Westeros) and the Middle East/Mediterranean/Asia (Essos).  The Westerosi are descendents of people who migrated from Essos thousands of years before, and the Targaryens also came from Essos but much more recently.

So I think that explains some of the reason the smaller continent of Westeros seems to have more warring -- they're the offspring of Essos colonists who went to Westeros precisely because there was nothing unclaimed in Essos.  It's sort of an Old World vs. New World dynamic.  In Essos everything has been claimed by an aristocracy for thousands of years, or under constant threat of barbarian hordes (the Dothraki), or in completely inhospitable areas (the Red Waste, etc).  There's not many opportunities for upstarts or younger sons (hence the company of mercenaries calling themselves the Second Sons).

At any rate, the Narrow Sea seems to be a significant feature of that world.  It's small enough to permit trade and cultural exchange between the two continents, but still enough of a physical barrier that launching invasions in either direction would be very difficult.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 01, 2015, 12:08:35 PM
If you haven't seen this yet, it really clarifies the theory of Jon Snow's Targaryan/Stark heritage...

R+L=J: who are Jon Snow's parents? [AGOT/S1 major spoilers, ACOK/S2 minor spoilers] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHqzFwodZqQ#ws)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2015, 08:05:57 AM
Interesting theory IDP.  I think it is supported by the recent events, specifically the mention of blue flowers (blue roses I think was the term used by Little Finger & Sansa) in the crypt in Winterfell where Lyanna rests.  Plus, I thought that Red Priestess was interested in Jon to make another one of those killer shadows to send at Bolton because of his royal blood (Eddard) but perhaps that blood is even more royal than we thought.

The only way I can see Jon getting clear to any claim on the throne is if the need for the Watch is ended...and I think the White Walkers and the response of the others in Westeros will have a say in that...as no doubt will the Mother of Dragons.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 04, 2015, 10:00:53 AM
So I wonder if Jaime has had an epiphany about turning his handicap into a new advantage?  Unless an enemy knew who he was, and that he had a prosthetic metal hand, they would have to be shocked by seeing him grab their sword with his bare hand.

We finally got to see Ser Barristan fight, and it rather reminded me of Obi-wan Kenobi.  Old Obi-wan Kenobi.  I kind of knew he was going to die.  That whole warm moment between him and Danaerys seemed to foreshadow it.

How do you think his loss (and I am not sure yet about Grey Worm -- I think he's just injured as opposed to dead) will factor into the imminent arrival of Jorah and Tyrion (and maybe Varys close on their heels)?  She needs advisers of proven skill, now more than ever.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2015, 12:03:03 PM
I thought the same thing about the latter, having Barristan out leaves her really short on good advice.  If Grey Worm dies she is down to the mercenary Daario Naharis and the chic who mostly just does interpreting.

And speaking of that fella, how does he factor into the Jon Snow parentage issue?  Should not have someone as high up the Targaryen pyramid like Ser Barristan Selmy been privy to the goings on of Prince Rhaegar?

It appears as a young man Jaime Lannister squired for Selmy.

And we still have to see what role the mysterious Jaqen H'ghar and his new pupil Arya have to play, as well as what becomes of Edmure Tully, hostage of that old SOB Frey since the Red Wedding.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 04, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
I really liked the scene between Stannis and his daughter Shireen.  The actress who plays her does a very good job of conveying the innocent little girl who has been shunned her entire life because of a disfigurement, but nevertheless remains cheery as she finds solace in her story books.

They seem to really be setting up a showdown of sorts, with her as the wedge.  Last season when Stannis decided to go north in response to the call for help from the Night's Watch, his wife confided to Melisandre that she believed her "heretic" daughter should be left behind, but Melisandre countered that Shireen must accompany them to the North because the Lord of Light had an important role for her to play there.

Fast forward to this episode and Selyce is once again castigating her daughter, and Melisandre counters that the Lord of Light had chosen her father to be his representative, and that Shireen thus carries her father's royal blood in her veins.  Then we see the scene where Shireen asks a genuinely heartbreaking question about whether or not Stannis is ashamed of her, and he in his gruff way explains that she is his daughter and he is not ashamed of her at all.

Melisandre and Selyce are going to want to use Shireen as a replacement for Gendry, and Stannis is going to have none of it.  Or perhaps they will do something to her when he is not around to stop it.  Either way, there's definitely a conflict brewing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 10, 2015, 11:15:52 PM
Ugh.  Danaerys marrying that guy?  That guy?

On the positive side, it was nice to see her finally use her dragons for something.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2015, 07:23:47 AM
I say they should be fed more often...perhaps the groom  ::puke::   on the wedding night would make a nice meal?

Maybe they can invite that big dark dragon back for the feast?

And hey, hasn't the Mother of Dragons been fooling around with that Second Son fella, I bet he won't like this impending marriage.  There could be a slaying and another dead advisor in the offing.

Poor Jorah going to be all lizard-like by the time he makes it to the fighting pits, eh?!

We saw nothing of Jaime and Bronn, and that whole angle with rescuing the Lannister Princess has yet to unfold.  The mercenary Bronn is an interesting character, he can be a cold-blooded killer but there seems to be a bit of a moral streak in the man that restrains him from becoming a mad murderous lout like The Mountain.  And he has a bit of a sarcastic humor too.  The Arya angle has been dormant a bit too.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 11, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
The parallel story lines are on the edge of being too cumbersome. It is no wonder the showrunners are paring down the character list from the books; consolidating story-lines; eliminating others. Any more going on and it would be impossible to convey the story with any coherence.

Last season ended with Bran coming to terms with his warg ability. This season won't even feature him or Hodor at all. I'm already disappointed at how little time has been spent fleshing out the Dorne story. Alexander Siddig is a good addition to the cast, and he's seen little screen time, and nothing of real consequence so far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2015, 10:29:27 AM
That guy they killed off in the Trial By Combat at the hands of the butcher known as The Mountain (the latter now being some sort of Frankenstien experiment by the Queen Mother's rogue Maester), was Dornish and had flair and an entertaining fighting style...but I didn't care for his bi-sexual habit...so no great loss, eh?

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 11, 2015, 10:55:44 AM
I just realized that the season is now halfway over, and we've seen little of Dorne.  It was supposed to be the primary setting for this season, at least according to all the promotional material.  If that's true, then they're going to have to show a whole lot of Dorne over the next 5 episodes.

I'm still irritated about the whole Daenerys marriage thing.  They just can't resist pairing her off, or having her hit on, by various swarthy types.  The captain of the Second Sons would be more acceptable, and she's already been sampling his wares on a regular basis anyway.

I called it with Jorah and the greyscale.  I was watching with my brother, and I was like "Jorah didn't really answer when Tyrion asked if he'd been touched -- he's got it."

Back to the Stannis plotline.  I can't help but think he is making a critical error by riding on Winterfell before Jon Snow has returned with Wildling allies.  I know he is trying to get moving before they are snowed in, and the Wildling alliance may never materialize, but I really really don't want to see Stannis defeated by the damn Boltons of all people.  The writers know Stannis is giving voice to the viewers right now, with his pledge to put Roose Bolton (Son of Michael, First of His Name) and Ramsey's heads on a spike.  We the viewers so badly want that sort of justice served, and we're led to believe Stannis is exactly the sort of man who will deliver it.  That's why I am convinced at the moment of truth we won't get it.  It's one of the major recurring themes in this whole story, that there is no purity of motive in that world -- what should happen, what would be right by all accounts, seldom materializes. It's how they set off Ned Stark to be such an anomaly in that world.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2015, 11:10:00 AM
There are so many plotlines that if they are going to keep going with this they almost need 2 hour episodes...or a lot of stuff has to come to a head to pare things down.

No doubt you'll be right Glock, it's almost as if the writers are directed to torment viewers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 11, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
It's not just the show writers tormenting viewers. Martin did it with the books too. They're accurately interpreting his treatment of charaters in general, even as they deviate in the specifics.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on May 11, 2015, 08:51:29 PM
There are so many plotlines that if they are going to keep going with this they almost need 2 hour episodes...or a lot of stuff has to come to a head to pare things down.

No doubt you'll be right Glock, it's almost as if the writers are directed to torment viewers.

 It's more like pissing me off with this going in all directions at once.It had better start to come together soon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 12, 2015, 06:31:59 AM
It's not just the show writers tormenting viewers. Martin did it with the books too. They're accurately interpreting his treatment of charaters in general, even as they deviate in the specifics.

You've made mention of this before and I forgot, but hey, two wrongs does not make a right...like JF I am trying to hang with it but they don't make it easy, I think for viewer sanity they are going to have to bring several of these diverse threads to a close or risk torking people off even more.  But perhaps torking people off isn't their concern, this is after all Big Entertainment we are talking about...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 12, 2015, 06:56:41 AM
I read somewhere a few days ago that the rapid pace at which they are excising characters, consolidating characters, consolidating storylines, outpacing the books, and drawing characters together, indicates that they intend to finish the whole kit-n-kaboodle in the seven seasons they originally set out to produce.

Even though their stated goal was to run seven seasons, there was much speculation that the popularity of the show would compel ten or more. But now the speculation is that they will wrap it up in seven as originally planned.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 18, 2015, 12:57:04 AM
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Sansa....poor Sansa.  Of course, nobody should be surprised that Ramsey revealed his full monstrous self to her on their wedding night.  Apparently the Twitterverse is all up in arms by angry female fans who believe the show has finally crossed too many lines.  What did they expect?

To me the final scene was even more twisted by the fact that they didn't show it.  Instead we heard it, and our helplessness underscored by the camera remaining fixed on Theon's anguished expression as he too was forced to helplessly observe.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 18, 2015, 06:28:14 AM
Yup.  I thought silly thoughts, like "she'll pull out a dagger and slay him" or "that up to now useless Theon will snap and slay his tormentor", but stupid ideas they are, that is not how this show works.

It's one of many trainwrecks in progress, all you can do is watch helplessly...even if somebody tried to stop it they'd be slaughtered...it seems to be shaping up for a fine 300 car pile up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on May 18, 2015, 09:19:56 PM
  At some point Sansa has to stop being a victim for gods sake.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 19, 2015, 10:05:59 AM
  At some point Sansa has to stop being a victim for gods sake.


I'm assuming she is going to do what that old chambermaid told her to do, put a candle in the window of the broken tower, which should signal these mysterious "friends in the North" around Winterfell.  We also know Brienne is there, committed to serving out her vow to Lady Catelyn, and she also wants to kill Stannis who is also on the way there.  Should be an interesting collision of events.

I'm afraid it's going to end up being the end of Stannis, which sucks because I started liking him more and more.  IMO he has the best claim on the throne not only because he is Robert's true heir, but because he was the only one to respond to the request for help from the Night's Watch.  He deserves the Iron Throne for that alone.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 19, 2015, 10:45:02 AM
I'm afraid it's going to end up being the end of Stannis, which sucks because I started liking him more and more.  IMO he has the best claim on the throne not only because he is Robert's true heir, but because he was the only one to respond to the request for help from the Night's Watch.  He deserves the Iron Throne for that alone.

Hopefully before he dies he'll realize Melisandre is evil and the Lord of Light is the devil. I'd hate to have him go to his grave unaware at how he's being misled and used.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 19, 2015, 11:47:47 AM
Yeah, death to the succubus!

But I bet Stannis gets slayed and she escapes with her wicked skin...

At least Jon might get to keep his navy, so, not a total loss.   :D

Poor Sansa...she is doomed to nothing but humiliation and pain...

Would be a mercy to hurl herself off the ramparts...

But the wedding night scene did have one positive byproduct...it drove this useless prog away from the show (http://www.weaselzippers.us/224068-dem-sen-claire-mccaskill-says-shes-done-watching-hbo-show-game-of-thrones-over-gratuitous-rape-scene/), so the audience as a whole just went up in collective IQ!

 ::hysterical::

Q-OK, the bedchamber scene is one thing, but if she's been watching the show all along you could see this trainwreck coming, but wtf is her beef with the water garden scene?

Progs!   ::)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 19, 2015, 01:31:00 PM
There's really been an inordinate amount of whining from liberals and feminists about it.  What was gratuitous about it?  Did anyone expect less from Ramsey Bolton?  Plus, are they not aware that this is a medieval world -- it's brutal and filthy and the powerful treat the powerless like property.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 19, 2015, 01:35:06 PM
Also, have you noticed these same people haven't had sh*t to say about the alarming frequency with which men have their balls cut off in this show?  Theon of course, and then Varys telling his story, then last week Tyrion is threatened with it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 19, 2015, 01:36:12 PM
BTW - I would totally make a shadow baby with Melisandre.   ::pimp::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 19, 2015, 01:50:28 PM
Also, have you noticed these same people haven't had sh*t to say about the alarming frequency with which men have their balls cut off in this show?  Theon of course, and then Varys telling his story, then last week Tyrion is threatened with it.

Or said squat about the buggery...

Or about feeding humans to dragons...

Or power-mad queens...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 19, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
BTW - I would totally make a shadow baby with Melisandre.   ::pimp::

And send it toward DC?

 ::evil::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on May 20, 2015, 07:19:41 AM
The Trigger Warning American Community sure was triggered, weren't they?

 ::curtsy4::

Unlike the fake rape chick with issues, Sansa will be tough enough to not go through the rest of her life carrying a mattress.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/19/23/28DDEC6F00000578-3088144-Shake_it_off_Students_helped_Emma_Sulkowicz_carry_her_50_pound_m-a-5_1432075089726.jpg)

Bat.  S**t.  Crazy. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2015, 08:37:41 AM
I had to look that up MNHawk...

This kind of effed up looks permanent to me (http://www.weaselzippers.us/224134-columbia-student-whose-claim-of-rape-was-unfounded-carries-her-mattress-during-graduation/), what a complete loon!

I don't even want to know what the degree is in...if anything other than bullsh*t I'd be surprised...either way, sane people should avoid this moonbat and let it implode by itself...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on May 20, 2015, 03:23:15 PM
A politically correct Game of Thrones, for the delicate flowers of Obama's unproductive half of America.

http://stopgamergate.com/post/119331314885/social-justice-approved-game-of-thrones (http://stopgamergate.com/post/119331314885/social-justice-approved-game-of-thrones)

Quote
Sansa cuts her long red hair short and dyes it rainbow colours. Starts a social media raven campaign for the awareness of how tough the daughters of Lords have it. Spends the rest of her time telling peasant boys to check their privilege.

Quote
Ser Tywin Lannister runs an interview stating how he is now a woman and must now be referred to as Lady.

Quote
Theon Greyjoy hacks it off himself.

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Alphabet Soup on May 20, 2015, 05:21:06 PM
As long as she doesn't start packing a mattress around with her...  :o
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 21, 2015, 12:59:48 AM
LOL, good stuff.  Man the shrieking and wailing over this latest episode is just ridiculous.  I still can't get over the complaint that it's gratuitous -- considering how so many other awful things are depicted with even greater frequency.  It seems rather like complaining that a period piece set in 1930s Germany has offensively anti-Jewish plot elements.  Well no sh*t you morons.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2015, 06:32:35 AM
Yeah, running guns through radical Islamists in Libya to radical Islamists in Syria that results in several people dying including the Ambassador and the President and the Secretary of State on down lying about it is so boring.  Spying on everything Americans do (not just in the bedroom) is so boring.  Taking away our God-given rights as free people at every opportunity is so boring.  Yeah, there is so much boring going on that the feeble-minded can only glom onto this brief episode in a 60 minute work of fiction in its 5th year of production.

 ::upsidedownflag::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 21, 2015, 09:59:52 AM
Yup. Now you have Matt Walsh - whose opinions I respect - basically echoing Pandora's point from a few weeks ago, saying that if Christians have been unsure of whether or not it is OK to watch GoT, this one scene in this one episode should be the thing that turns us away.

I get the overall point, but I don't get it in regards to this particular scene. This is one of the few times the showrunners DIDN'T graphically show what happened. It's like they finally listened to some of the criticism of their gratuitous sex and understood that showing such a thing would be crossing a line that didn't need to be crossed.

And yet this is the thing that is sending people into a tailspin. Trigger warnings abound.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Pandora on May 21, 2015, 10:56:22 AM
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... this one scene in this one episode should be the thing that turns us away.

At Hot Air, I read a discussion similar to ours here, and one would *think* the castration episodes would have been the breaking point for some, but, apparently, because the violence was visited upon men, well, that was okay because SJW princesses have decided they are the arbiters of the last straw.  Mind-boggling.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2015, 11:22:57 AM
It is mind-boggling but not surprising.

I wonder if anybody asked Mr. Walsh or anybody else how that scene should be more offensive than say the real life of Pope Alexander VI (Roderic Llançol i de Borja) or John F. Kennedy?

Idiots.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 21, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
The Trigger Warning American Community sure was triggered, weren't they?

 ::curtsy4::

Unlike the fake rape chick with issues, Sansa will be tough enough to not go through the rest of her life carrying a mattress.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/19/23/28DDEC6F00000578-3088144-Shake_it_off_Students_helped_Emma_Sulkowicz_carry_her_50_pound_m-a-5_1432075089726.jpg)

Bat.  S**t.  Crazy.

 ::siren::

We have a St. Matress update!

Early this morning, an anonymous person or persons put up posters around Columbia University—in the 116th Street subway station, outside of Tom’s Restaurant, on stoplights and construction walls—emblazoned with the image of student Emma Sulkowicz and her now-iconic mattress.  “Pretty Little Liar” with the caption “Emma Sulkowitz” [sic] and “RapeHoax.” (http://www.weaselzippers.us/224247-posters-go-up-around-columbia-calling-mattress-rape-protester-a-pretty-little-liar/)

(http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_ewhitford/051915fakerape.jpeg)

http://gothamist.com/2015/05/20/columbia_rape_protest_posters.php (http://gothamist.com/2015/05/20/columbia_rape_protest_posters.php)

 ::clapping::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 27, 2015, 09:50:10 AM
So we finally have two of the major characters meeting each other -- Danaerys and Tyrion.  She was none too pleased to be reunited with Jorah though.  In the preview for the next episode, they show Jorah and Tyrion standing before her in the throne room and she says to Jorah "how can I rule if I do not keep my promises?"  Presumably that's referring to her promise to have Jorah's head floating in the bay should he ever return.  I think that's when he is going to show his trump card, that he's already a dead man walking anyway because of the greyscale.

Elsewhere:  Theon, damn you.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 27, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
So predictable...

It was too much to expect either the old woman or the new gelding to know the psychotic bastard is occupying the highest point of the castle...

 ::facepalm::

Time for Brienne to use the tunnels into the crypt?  (Maybe when Stannis attacks?)

Anyway, Jorah is a dead man anyway...we'll have to see what use the Dwarf is and if his pal Varys shows up.

And lets get this battle between Stannis and Bolton going already, I'm bored!!!

Nice to see the Queen Bitch get biten by the snake she befriended though.  Heh!

And the fat crow got laid, good for him. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on May 27, 2015, 11:29:37 AM
  When the Queen bitch gets loose she will burn the kingdom down to get even with the Sparrows. If she doesn't get out there will be no longer a kingdom and it becomes a free for all for control.

   Her brother,lover and father of her children will be lucky to get out with his skin in tact so he is not going to be of any help any time soon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 27, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
In the books, the High Sparrow shaved Cersei's head, stripped her naked, and marched her through the streets of King's Landing. I wonder if the series will go that far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on May 28, 2015, 07:21:53 AM
http://www.latintimes.com/game-thrones-season-5-spoilers-photos-cersei-nude-walk-shame-leaked-267591 (http://www.latintimes.com/game-thrones-season-5-spoilers-photos-cersei-nude-walk-shame-leaked-267591)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 28, 2015, 07:59:27 AM
Four days to film?  The crew milking this or what?   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 28, 2015, 12:09:40 PM
Four days to film?  The crew milking this or what?   ::hysterical::


Well she's pretty hot, so who can blame them  ::cool::

I've seen her on TV interviews, and she is even hotter with her natural hair.  That show is full of easy to look at females.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 02, 2015, 11:15:23 AM
The Dwarf lives.

And those White Walkers sure can replenish their ranks quickly.   ::speechless::

If "dragon glass" can kill 'em, I wonder if live dragons can too?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 02, 2015, 05:20:56 PM
Oh yeah, I think the larger arc of that universe is the showdown between the White Walkers and the Dragons (or more correctly the Mother of Dragons).  It's a "Story of Fire and Ice" right?  And we see that Valyrian steel can also kill them, which I guess gets back to the fact that Valyrian steel is from the old civilization of Valyria (from which the Targaryens descend), who had dragons.  It will probably emerge that Valyrian steel was forged with dragonfire or something like that.

I wonder what Ramsey's little plot is.  He said he only needed 20 men to deal a blow to Stannis and his army.  A covert assassination mission?  I really hope that bastard gets caught and burned up as an offering to Melisandre's god.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 03, 2015, 06:57:58 AM
Did that sole remaining giant survive?  Kinda lost track of him as they fled into the cold sea.  I wonder if he could find more of his kind?  And how does Bran fit in?  It's been a while since he was left under the odd tree.  Maybe his warg stuff can work on dragons to help slay the liberals...er, excuse me, the undead? 

And yes, something nasty has to happen to that vile little bastard Ramsey...I'm thinking trussed up with ropes on each limb and suspended for ravenous creatures to slowly munch on...starting with his privates which could be slathered with honey to get things going. 

It's something I'd like to see for most all bastards, fictional and otherwise...   :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 05, 2015, 11:55:53 AM
Veering off topic again...

Crazy moonbat matress beoch is back! (http://www.weaselzippers.us/225683-mattress-girl-makes-artistic-sex-tape-recreation-of-her-alleged-rape/)

Umm...why do they keep giving this retarded attention whore any press?

Oh, yeah...the Wahr on Wymenz must be continually hyped...even if its with complete bullsh*t.

Especially if it is complete bullsh*t!



And, uhh...she must miss what didn't happen with Nungesser...if she has to keep seeking it, eh?

She is nucking futs!


Should be a GoT-stlye demise for this imbecile...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 05, 2015, 02:04:24 PM
The giant did survive.  They showed him in the preview for the next episode, where the new allied Crow/wildling army is waiting to be let through the wall (and it is implied that Ser Allliser ain't letting them in).

I still can't quite place Ser Alliser.  He's a dickhead for sure, but is he a pure antagonist or just a hardass?  He seems like the type who might be an a-hole but ultimately lives up to duty.  But I am less sure now, with the whole "you're running out of friends" comment to Sam.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 05, 2015, 02:46:27 PM
The last of the published books has Jon Snow gang-stabbed by the Crows who are not aligned with him, and left for dead - without revealing his fate. If the series follows that line, we'll certainly see what Ser Alliser Thorne is made of.

On the one hand, he's busted Jon's balls from moment-one, and we know he's against bringing the Wildlings to Castle Black. On the other hand Ser Alliser knew that Janos Slynt was a coward, and deserved to be beheaded. Jon gave Ser Alliser a dignified command, and Slynt was beheaded because he refused to accept Jon's order for a less desirable command. So I think the jury's out. I don't remember from the books which side Alliser came down on.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 07, 2015, 09:14:41 PM
Well.  I'm not on Team Stannis anymore.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 08, 2015, 06:50:20 AM
He was flawed from the start, being led by his Little Stannis by that witch...

And yeah the giant lived.

And thankfully, some gratuitous dragon action!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on June 08, 2015, 06:40:10 PM
Well.  I'm not on Team Stannis anymore.

   What a dick move that was.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 09, 2015, 10:49:33 AM
They'd been hinting that it would happen all the way back to Season 2 when Melisandre kept talking about how valuable "King's blood" is for a sacrifice.  Still though, I kept thinking maybe something would happen at the last second, like maybe Davos had lingered behind out of suspicion or something.

I've read about how this is very similar to the Greek myth of Agamemnon, who at the behest of his mistress Cassandra sacrificed his own daughter to secure victory over Troy.  In that story, his wife is distraught and kills him and the mistress too.  Definitely very similar story.

I'm betting on Stannis being killed by Brienne, and Melisandre by Davos.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 09, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
I'm betting on Stannis being killed by Brienne, and Melisandre by Davos.

That's a good bet on both counts.

Although I could see it going otherwise. Both Davos and Selyse have plenty of good reason to kill both Stannis and Melisandre.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 09, 2015, 11:14:54 AM
They'd been hinting that it would happen all the way back to Season 2 when Melisandre kept talking about how valuable "King's blood" is for a sacrifice.  Still though, I kept thinking maybe something would happen at the last second, like maybe Davos had lingered behind out of suspicion or something.

I've read about how this is very similar to the Greek myth of Agamemnon, who at the behest of his mistress Cassandra sacrificed his own daughter to secure victory over Troy.  In that story, his wife is distraught and kills him and the mistress too.  Definitely very similar story.

I'm betting on Stannis being killed by Brienne, and Melisandre by Davos.

A good story is a good story.  IIRC George Herbert mentions Agamemnon in his Dune series, I think starting with the God Emperor book.

And after Stannis and his witch get theirs...I hope the Bolton's get theirs next!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 09, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
They'd been hinting that it would happen all the way back to Season 2 when Melisandre kept talking about how valuable "King's blood" is for a sacrifice.  Still though, I kept thinking maybe something would happen at the last second, like maybe Davos had lingered behind out of suspicion or something.

I've read about how this is very similar to the Greek myth of Agamemnon, who at the behest of his mistress Cassandra sacrificed his own daughter to secure victory over Troy.  In that story, his wife is distraught and kills him and the mistress too.  Definitely very similar story.

I'm betting on Stannis being killed by Brienne, and Melisandre by Davos.

A good story is a good story.  IIRC George Frank Herbert mentions Agamemnon in his Dune series, I think starting with the God Emperor book.

And after Stannis and his witch get theirs...I hope the Bolton's get theirs next!

FIFY  ::beertoast::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 09, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
I kind of want the Boltons to get burned alive by Stannis and Melisandre first, and then those two to be offed by some combination of Brienne/Davos/Selyse.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 09, 2015, 12:57:12 PM
Why did I write George?   ::facepalm::   ::bashing::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 09, 2015, 12:57:57 PM
I kind of want the Boltons to get burned alive by Stannis and Melisandre first, and then those two to be offed by some combination of Brienne/Davos/Selyse.

I can live with that.

As long as the dragons still have some tasty meals left!   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 14, 2015, 10:16:31 PM
Well, love it or not they are cutting threads.  Like IDP said, Snow and the walk of shame stuck to the book.

I hope the dragon is tired and needs rest and doesn't croak.

Who are these horsepeople?

Guess we'll have to wait to find that out and if Sansa and the gelding escape...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 15, 2015, 10:43:57 AM
I think the horse people are Dothraki.  She took off that ring, was that something Khal Drogo had given her?  I wonder if the new Khal is that lieutenant of Drogo's, the one who refused to follow Danaerys after Drogo's death.

I was also concerned about Drogon.  I think he's just exhausted and the spear wounds probably aren't helping.  Glad to see Varys finally show back up.

Overall though, I found that to be an unsatisfying finale.  They're starting to get a bit formulaic in the whole "we'll just kill anybody" department.  I think Jon Snow will survive.  I suspect Melisandre will save him with some of her magic.  It's no coincidence that she and Davos just happened to show back up at Castle Black at the right time.  There will probably be a teaming up of Jon Snow, Davos, Melisandre, and the Wildlings -- at least until Davos learns the truth of what happened, and decides to kill Melisandre.

The whole Dorne story this season has come across as hastily written.  I knew when that woman, Oberyn's paramour, kissed Myrcella she was doing so with poisoned lips.  Kinda stupid though, because the poison took effect while the ship was still in sight of land.  Why wouldn't Jaime just turn the ship around and be like "WTF treachery is this?"  Unless he suspected Prince Doran, but that wouldn't make sense because the prince's own son was on board that ship, and his marriage to Myrcella would cement an alliance with the royal family.  Jaime would have to know who was responsible, especially since Bronn had been poisoned with the same thing.

It'll be interesting to see how Cersei takes her revenge with the Frankenstein monster.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 15, 2015, 11:36:07 AM
I thought we were done with the Dothraki, they always seemed too simple-minded, superstitious and cultish...kinda like Islaminals.

I don't think Dany or Jorah will be happy to see Varys, we'll have to see if he lives or not...they have to find/rescue Dany first though.

They will kill anybody anytime, but I think IDP said that is also the way the writer of the books has it too.  I think Jon is gone...unless he becomes a white-walker because his stupid mutineers neglected to burn his body.  Those creatures are going to reap all of the north in short order.  And I say Davos slays the witch.  At least there is one slaying that is well deserved.  Should be staked out naked and slowly chewed upon by wolves.

Myrcella's demise was totally predictable, and as she was the least offensive and most normal and innocent of the incestuous bastard children it is yet another unnecessary death in this kill-anybody genre.  But hey, the Red Wedding really kicked the slaughtering into high gear, so after that nobody can legitimately be too surprised by anything.

I think the High Sparrow did enough to piss Cersei off to perhaps create a enough rope with which to convict herself of the crimes yet to be adjudicated, but the murder of her daughter is going to interrupt that line a bit I think...she'll send Frankenstein to Dorne first.

The Arya stuff just gets weirder and wherever that is leading who knows.

And they haven't done anything more with the Frey's, the Greyjoy's and the Iron Born, the Tyrell's...maybe waiting for walkers to advance on them?  And Bran, who I suspect will intersect with Dany's fate in Westeros at some point.  This is the tale of fire and ice, right?

And did Brienne slay Stannis?  Never really saw the kill, did we?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 15, 2015, 11:55:47 AM
No, we didn't see Brienne actually kill him, so who knows.  His last words to her were "do your duty," and we know how duty-bound Brienne is.  I wonder if that suddenly jogged her memory that her duty to Catelyn is to protect the Stark girls.  She might keep Stannis alive and use him as a means of obtaining entry to Winterfell.  Sort of a "look who I have!" temptation for the Boltons.

If Jon Snow is truly and finally dead, that's just stupid.  One theory is that he may have warged into his direwolf, Ghost.  I still think Melisandre is going to do something though.  We saw that the other Red Priest, Thoros of Myr, had the ability to bring someone back from death multiple times.  I just think it's too coincidental that she shows up at Castle Black right before Jon gets knifed to death by his own men.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 15, 2015, 02:31:36 PM
With fantasy powers anything is possible...it's like the over-played "time-travel" trick in science fiction...they can fiddle with the how but simply put it is a plot device to revive any character and/or story line...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on June 17, 2015, 07:39:08 PM
  Chubby and family got out just in time  he may have a part to play in the taking of revenge.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on March 11, 2016, 11:49:44 AM
http://youtu.be/CuH3tJPiP-U (http://youtu.be/CuH3tJPiP-U)

About bloody time!  Apart from an occasional hockey game...the idiot box has nothing but CRAP coming out of it!!!

Git-r-done!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 11, 2016, 11:53:15 AM
Man, get Netflix and/or Amazon. So much good stuff. Longmire, Gotham, Vikings...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on March 11, 2016, 12:07:35 PM
I'm close to pulling the plug...I'll get nothing and like it.

After GOT is over...

 :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Pandora on March 11, 2016, 02:04:49 PM
Man, get Netflix and/or Amazon. So much good stuff. Longmire, Gotham, Vikings...

We have both.  After watching the above named, and the few movies I cared to watch, now we're just wasting money.  There's doo-doo crapcrap on there as well.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Weisshaupt on March 11, 2016, 03:04:25 PM
Man, get Netflix and/or Amazon. So much good stuff. Longmire, Gotham, Vikings...

We have both.  After watching the above named, and the few movies I cared to watch, now we're just wasting money.  There's doo-doo crapcrap on there as well.

We do the Amazon/Hulu combination.  (Plus Crunchyroll $8 for Anime and Manga  and Funimation $4 for just anime)
Hulu I use to watch stuff I just never finished: Sliders, Outer Limits. They had the complete Dr. Who reboot  till recently when BBC pulled the plug on them.
On Amazon we tend to do the pay-per-season thing.  So Big Bang, Haven, Orphan Black, Under the Dome, Falling Skies at between $10-20 a season.  But even at $2 an episode, you are still better off than paying for Cable and its world of crap. 

And I know I keep pushing the Anime, but I have really enjoyed many of the titles I have watched recently - and they can all be streamed as well.  IN fact Hulu has a decent anime collection - including my favorite - Steins;Gate.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on March 11, 2016, 04:24:00 PM
Hulu and Netflix discs.  All services are limited in movies, and with Netflix discs, you can watch anything that exists.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 23, 2016, 07:12:15 AM
Season 6 premieres tomorrow.  I am definitely excited for some Daenerys and Margerie.... (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/WildBill1946/SMILIES/dribble.gif)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 23, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Yup. Looking forward.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 23, 2016, 09:13:46 PM
About time, seems like forever!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on April 24, 2016, 08:03:22 PM
 It's 9:02 P.M. and it just started but the wife is watching a comedy that ends at 9:30 so thank God for TiVo.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 24, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
John didn't pull through.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 24, 2016, 11:43:17 PM
Well now we know what the cafeteria lunch lady looks like in the buff....   *shudder*


I still think John is coming back.  Melisandre is going to do something, once she gets out of her "reenacting that scene from The Shining" funk.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2016, 08:19:32 AM
I dunno, would have to be something in it for the witch...  (shudder)

What's with the dragon?  A few spears to protect mommy and its in a funk?  Walk, er, fly it off!   ;D

How long until people find out Old Sword has the stone disease?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 25, 2016, 09:12:01 AM
I actually welled-up with tears when Brienne of Tarth came to the rescue of Lady Sansa, and when she took her oath of fealty. What Brienne was literally living for, and what Sansa needed more than oxygen, finally came to fruition. Lord knows what they'll face now, but it sure felt like a tide turned in that moment.

Such an awesome moment in film. Theon beginning to shed the persona of "Reek". Sansa taking comfort in him, even though she knows he betrayed Robb and Catelyn. Watching Sansa, struggling to come to grips with the reality that her nightmare appeared to be over, and unable to remember the words of the oath, having been so far removed from ever hoping to reclaim nobility. Podrick gently reminding her what to say. Brienne, nearly enraptured that her sense of duty and loyalty had finally found a home.

Just awesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2016, 10:16:11 AM
That was a good scene.

Of course God knows what is growing inside poor Sansa though...   ::speechless::

She isn't entirely out of the woods...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 25, 2016, 11:24:55 AM
And what became of Stannis?  I may need to rewatch that scene from last season, but I don't think Brienne killed him.  Not yet.


eta - The actress who plays Brienne confirms Stannis is dead, though she may have just been having fun with the interview: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3161787/How-doubt-Brienne-Gwendoline-Christie-confirms-Stannis-Baratheon-no-character-kills-screen-Game-Thrones.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3161787/How-doubt-Brienne-Gwendoline-Christie-confirms-Stannis-Baratheon-no-character-kills-screen-Game-Thrones.html)

I just find it odd that a show that never shies away from gore and violence would keep the death of this major character conveniently off screen.  That article also discusses the theory that Melisandre will somehow resurrect Jon Snow, since we know at least some Red Priests are capable of it.  The actress who plays Melisandre reminds us that we have never seen her character show such an ability, but she does also remind the reader that someone in Season 3 (Thoros of Myrh -- another Red Priest) has.  Melisandre would know where Thoros is.  He's already in Westeros.  That group of outlaws he's with could also be a potential safe haven and base of operations for the Night's Watch fugitives.  That's my theory!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2016, 11:33:40 AM
But her arm swung...?

And in the new episode there was a query about "who finished him off" or something to that effect...indicating somebody found the remains...

?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 25, 2016, 11:37:14 AM
You're right, that was Roose Bolton asking Ramsay if he knew who had delivered the killing blow.  I wasn't sure if they meant "we found the body" or "given the scale of this slaughter, we assume he's among the dead somewhere"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on April 25, 2016, 02:33:09 PM
She isn't entirely out of the woods...

True. I think that's part of what made the scene so monumental for me - the fact that while her circumstance is absolutely dire by any measure, this is the first moment since she watched Eddard's execution that she has any hope at all. She has been endlessly accosted, used, and had every rug yanked out from under her. Now she has a brute of a woman promising protection and loyalty to the death.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 25, 2016, 04:06:02 PM
She isn't entirely out of the woods...

True. I think that's part of what made the scene so monumental for me - the fact that while her circumstance is absolutely dire by any measure, this is the first moment since she watched Eddard's execution that she has any hope at all. She has been endlessly accosted, used, and had every rug yanked out from under her. Now she has a brute of a woman promising protection and loyalty to the death.

If ever caught without her protector all she'd have to do is put a dagger to her belly and announce she'll kill herself and her "son" even if it isn't a son, just to get bad guys to back off, so yeah she has more upside...then again this is GOT, how many times have we seen hope end in a bloody mess?

We'll find out.

Should have a Lannister invasion of Dorne coming up soon too, though I don't know what those broke pretenders are going to pay with, IOU's?  Works in the real world I guess...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 25, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
I was a bit disappointed that Prince Doran and his bodyguard were killed off that quickly.  We never got to see the bodyguard make good on his supposed combat prowess.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on April 25, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
She isn't entirely out of the woods...

True. I think that's part of what made the scene so monumental for me - the fact that while her circumstance is absolutely dire by any measure, this is the first moment since she watched Eddard's execution that she has any hope at all. She has been endlessly accosted, used, and had every rug yanked out from under her. Now she has a brute of a woman promising protection and loyalty to the death.

If ever caught without her protector all she'd have to do is put a dagger to her belly and announce she'll kill herself and her "son" even if it isn't a son, just to get bad guys to back off, so yeah she has more upside...then again this is GOT, how many times have we seen hope end in a bloody mess?

We'll find out.

Should have a Lannister invasion of Dorne coming up soon too, though I don't know what those broke pretenders are going to pay with, IOU's?  Works in the real world I guess...

   Not before she kills all of the people that put her through the walk of shame. Her guardian we all know is the Mountain and he brother/sex partner is back and there will be hell to pay.Not to mention his sons wife is being held by that bunch of nut cases.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 26, 2016, 08:19:39 AM
Kings Landing seems ripe for rebellion, could be it is in flames before anybody form the outside has a chance to act...

And Margery might slit weak hubby's throat and his maniacal mommy if she ever gets out of that cell!  Hey, I'd pay a dollar to see that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on April 26, 2016, 09:58:50 AM
I wonder if there's a chance Cersei and Margery might actually have cause for an alliance now?  Cersei of course had disdain for Margery, and it was her attempt to use the religious zealots against Margery that got herself swept up into this mess in the first place.  Now they've both been imprisoned and each have reasons to see to the elimination of this High Sparrow and his order of enforcers.

I'm not quite sure what Cersei expected to gain from a personal war against Margery.  Doesn't she want her son, the King, to remain on the throne and possess legitimate heirs through Margery?  Did she expect to have her son be a bachelor king, with her and Jaime as the real rulers behind the scenes?  How long could she maintain that sort of arrangement?  Kings are expected to produce heirs.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on April 26, 2016, 11:06:57 AM
It's part of the joy I guess of being bathsyt crazy, thinking you are speshul!

Wouldn't be surprised if Cersie's head ends up on a pike, fitting given what her first bastard son did to old Ned.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 01, 2016, 11:15:01 PM
Episode 2 summary:

"Ramsey sends his regards."
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2016, 06:52:00 AM
Yeah, I hope that bastard has an epic end.  May be the most loathsome lout in the entire cast of characters.

And , umm...just what did the Red Witch bring back, eh?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2016, 01:37:16 PM
Yeah, remains to be seen if it's the same Jon Snow or something....different.

And Bran having the visions of Winterfell from before he was born, seeing his father as a child, and his aunt Lyanna -- kind of lends new evidence to the long standing fan theory that Jon Snow is actually the child of Lyanna Stark and a Targaryen prince, and that Ned claimed him as a bastard son in order to protect him from the people out to kill any surviving Targaryen.

Did you notice the scenes from the next epiode, where they show Ramsey asking "and what have you come to Winterfell for?" to someone who answers "we've brought you a gift"?  The people who brought the gift carried the banner of House Umber, a former vassal house to the Starks.  When Bran went north of the wall, he sent his younger brother Rickon with the wildling woman to the Umbers, because at the time they were loyal vassals who would keep him safe.  Clearly the "gift" they've brought Ramsey must be Rickon Stark.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Yeah it is starting to get good, so many chickens returning to roost, shaping up for a fine season.

I had to wonder the purpose of flashing back to a time before your own existence, Bran is going to have a key role to play with his Wild powers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 10, 2016, 03:46:48 PM
I have to say, I am really liking Season 6 so far.  What's up with Bronn?  They haven't even mentioned him.  Was he on the ship with Jaime that returned from Dorne?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 10, 2016, 06:20:15 PM
I have to say, I am really liking Season 6 so far.  What's up with Bronn?  They haven't even mentioned him.  Was he on the ship with Jaime that returned from Dorne?

He was. No mention of him so far. I hope they didn't write him out. He was becoming one of my faves.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 11, 2016, 07:15:00 AM
He's probably dallying with his woman...nothing like a long sea voyage to stoke a fellas yearnings for the fairer sex.  ;)

Besides, he could be a good candidate to strike the fatal blow that brings The Mountain down.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 23, 2016, 10:39:58 AM
Still really liking this season.  The story is moving along quickly now.  Last night's episode had a major reveal in Hodor's back story.  And there was a scene in Arya's story line, where she is watching a theater troupe put on a bawdy reenactment of her father's execution, and all I can say is the actress who was playing the role of fake Sansa....whew!  ::pimp::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 23, 2016, 11:31:17 AM
Yeah, Hodor explained.

And what pray tell is awaiting Bran since being flushed from the tree?  Maybe he'll meet a dragon and do his Beastmaster thingy?

And those woodland faeries...made the white walkers...just goes to show you, never trust a faerie!

And does anybody think that Murderous Grayjoy has a shot at the Mother of Dragons?  Please, it's like somebody saying I have a shot at (insert name of supermodel hottie here). Clearly an indication of insanity and or blindness.

Kinda disappointed the pimp didn't get iced, perhaps a bigger and more spectacular demise is in store, but...I still would have like seeing him get a broad sword (heh) up the arse!

Like the pace though...   ::thumbsup::

And actor actress...got a couple things going for her...   :D 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 23, 2016, 01:48:34 PM

And does anybody think that Murderous Grayjoy has a shot at the Mother of Dragons?  Please, it's like somebody saying I have a shot at (insert name of supermodel hottie here). Clearly an indication of insanity and or blindness.



Yeah, I think the more likely thing is Yara and Theon will get there before him and offer their fleet and services as sea warriors.  Danaerys might promise them rule over the Iron Islands in exchange.  But either way, it appears the merging of the Targaryen/Greyjoy storylines is the answer to the "Dany's fleet was burned, what will she replace it with?" question.

Quote
And actor actress...got a couple things going for her...   :D 


Yeah I had to run it back and rewatch that scene a couple times ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 23, 2016, 08:55:04 PM
The mystery of Hodor's history finally explained, and it was soooooo cool! It was sad, but a very satisfactory explanation. I wonder who will cart Bran around now?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 24, 2016, 06:48:00 AM
Boy better find a dragon quick or he'll be a white walker happy meal.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on May 24, 2016, 08:39:58 AM
Hodor.  :'(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 24, 2016, 11:09:02 AM
Ok, it's CNN hacks, but I still give it props for humour....


! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPo-B8ZkyzI#)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 24, 2016, 11:45:12 AM
Who is that idiot at the end...looks familiar...   ::thinking::

Maybe if you attach its face to Obama's ass it will come to me...   ::kiss-my-ass::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 24, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
LOL, Doran Martell, murdered because he was "low energy".
 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 24, 2016, 04:14:37 PM
LOL


(http://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13237774_1061376883940368_1455516865487689115_n.jpg?oh=7a53ddc7df056382de5242a3a97c1d12&oe=57E7F882)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 24, 2016, 07:32:36 PM
Heh, I should put those in elevators at work!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on May 25, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
  And it looks like that Ghost is the only wolf left.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 25, 2016, 08:10:02 PM
Arya's wolf Nymeria might still be around too, possibly.  That's the one she set loose in the forest so it wouldn't be killed for biting Joffrey.

RIP Summer  ::USA::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on May 25, 2016, 08:44:35 PM
Arya's wolf Nymeria might still be around too, possibly.  That's the one she set loose in the forest so it wouldn't be killed for biting Joffrey.

RIP Summer  ::USA::

   ::thinking:: ::whatgives::  Can't remember but I hope you're right
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 25, 2016, 10:09:20 PM
Arya's wolf Nymeria might still be around too, possibly.  That's the one she set loose in the forest so it wouldn't be killed for biting Joffrey.

RIP Summer  ::USA::

   ::thinking:: ::whatgives::  Can't remember but I hope you're right

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWbs6ZVj07I#)


Somehow I think her wolf is going to come back at some point in the story.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 26, 2016, 08:03:35 AM
Having read all the books except the last one published, I was always disappointed that Martin didn't make more of the dire wolves and their connection to the Stark children. But that is Martin's way - don't give the readers what they expect based on literary traditions of the genre.

I have been even more disappointed in that aspect of the series. The wolves relevance is downplayed even more. They're cool, but not as cool as they were in the books, which, in my opinion, wasn't quite cool enough. So much of what Martin writes causes one to anticipate what ultimately leads to a dead-end.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on May 26, 2016, 01:48:23 PM
Agreed.  I haven't read the books, but even just from watching the series it seems like the direwolves should be a bit more prominent.  The direwolf is the sigil of House Stark, and each Stark child getting a direwolf of their own paralleled the old Targaryen siblings each having their own dragon -- which echos the larger parallel of Fire and Ice.  The Targaryens are Fire, the Starks are Ice.

On the same note I've also felt Dany's dragons are somewhat underused.  I suppose they're being saved for something more climactic, but still I'd enjoy seeing her enemies cower before the dragons more!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 27, 2016, 06:57:17 AM
Yeah, more dragons.

And I am trying to remember what is on that logo/icon doohickey in the intro...there is a dragon, a wolf, what were the others?  Bear?  Raven?  Anyway...you'd think they'd be important...

 ::)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on May 31, 2016, 11:30:32 AM
Seeing the recent episode the logo thingy is dragon, wolf, stag, and bird (eagle/raven...likely raven)...

Anyway...

Not having read the book and realizing earlier comments of IDP who I think has read them...they don't always stay to script here...but apparently a surviving Stark Uncle saved Bran...which answered the "how?" on that score I had previously...

The real mystery to me is who is this dude in chains?!   ::whatgives::

Nice to see Dany riding Puff again.

And I find it hilarious that the High Sparrow outflanked the Lannisters...but I guess a weak-minded bastard king and a princess willing to do anything will do that...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 05, 2016, 10:48:14 PM
The Hound is back!  Yes!

I've been thinking he would come back at some point, because they made a point of Arya leaving him still very much alive in that final scene.  Plus the episode where he had a trial by combat with the Brotherhood Without Banners and kills Beric Dondarion, that episode dropped a big hint.  Dondarion was brought back to life by a Red Priest and he told the Hound "The Lord of Light isn't finished with you yet."

Since they seem to show the Hound becoming religious, in the Faith of the Seven, do you suppose he might end up as the Sparrows' champion to face off against Cersei's champion (his brother The Mountain)?  He's also currently in the Riverlands, which is where the Blackfish is.  That could result in him meeting up with Brienne, Sansa, Jon Snow and company if they traveled there to meet the Blackfish.  Interesting how the plots are beginning to merge.

ETA - and yes, Bronn is back too.  Two of my favorite characters: Bronn and The Hound.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 06, 2016, 07:28:36 AM
Bronn is a crusty old bastard...but in a fight crusty old bastards are who get the job done, but he has a dry wit about him that makes him likable.

I too thought about The Hound and The Mountain facing off, and not sure yet if they plan to snuff Arya or see her recover but these people seem to like inducing that kind of doubt.

I do like the quickening pace, I just hope we don't see it end in a fizzle or splinter into a thousand questions.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 06, 2016, 10:20:03 AM
I think they made a point of showing us that Arya overheard two Westerosi merchants talking about the Ironborn being in Slaver's Bay.  I would guess Theon is on her list, so she might head that way which would bring her plot into contact with the Danaerys/Tyrion plot.

I do wonder though about her survival.  This show famously bumps off major characters.  I think she'll make it though.  Somehow I think she's going to encounter Lady Crane, who will get her medical care.  I also think Jaqen is going to be angry because he told that girl "do not let her suffer" yet she gut stabbed Arya.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 06, 2016, 11:11:37 AM
Could be right.

Jaqen doesn't appear to suffer from much guilt if his orders are not met.  No doubt our darling 'lil assassin will be disappointed into what Theon has become...not that it would hold her knife from plunging into his heart...had he still been with Sansa perhaps he's have a chance to live...but hey if I had my (wince!) manhood severed...death would look pretty good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 06, 2016, 12:24:00 PM
I'm not sure why I was surprised to see Yara making out with a woman.  Yeah, she's very mannish and all that, but something about it still seemed gratuitous.  One of the few complaints I have about this show is that the homo sh*t is overdone, IMO.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on June 06, 2016, 07:33:53 PM
   ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 07, 2016, 07:28:50 AM
I was wondering how a girl can "bleep the tits off" another...but I suppose we should be glad they left it at that.

In the grand scheme of things how big a fan base is the phagg/dyke/confused community with GOT?

I wonder what their reaction would be if the poofer in the High Sparrow's dungeon was defenestrated Muzzie style?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 20, 2016, 08:31:10 AM
Last two episodes have been really good.

Last ending seeing Arya vanquish her tormentor and tell Jaqen her name and where she is going...I think his smile indicated he knew this all along and molded her to this end.

Last night with dragons and battles and bastard Bolton meeting a just end was delicious.

Of course being beholden to that snake Little Finger is problematic.

And is the RedWitch about to be...judged?

I like the pace, and the pieces coming together.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 20, 2016, 10:15:32 AM
Yes good stuff.  I have been struggling for multiple seasons now trying to come up with a suitably awful way for Ramsay to finally meet his end.  Being fed to his hounds was at the top of my list, right up there with being flayed living.  There's a poetic justice in turning his own methods of torture back on him.  And the great irony is his hounds probably would have been loyal to him, had he not deliberately starved them.

But yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what comes next from the Littlefinger angle.  By this point Sansa is pretty savvy, particularly when it comes to his machinations, so I hope she has an idea in mind.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on June 20, 2016, 09:34:59 PM
Yes good stuff.  I have been struggling for multiple seasons now trying to come up with a suitably awful way for Ramsay to finally meet his end.  Being fed to his hounds was at the top of my list, right up there with being flayed living.  There's a poetic justice in turning his own methods of torture back on him.  And the great irony is his hounds probably would have been loyal to him, had he not deliberately starved them.

But yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what comes next from the Littlefinger angle.  By this point Sansa is pretty savvy, particularly when it comes to his machinations, so I hope she has an idea in mind.

   He couldn't marry her mother so he's going for her in her place and become ruler of Winterfeld and the kingdom he rules now.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 21, 2016, 12:39:41 AM
I think one thing we witnessed that was not apparent aside from context: I believe that Jon Snow will discover that he cannot be killed. His avoidance of death during the battle contained dozens of coincidences that prevented it. He was teed-up to die time after time, and just when he was about to be killed, something happened to stop it. That's one thing GoT never does.

Melisandre is gonna read all kinds of things into that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on June 22, 2016, 03:19:48 AM
(https://scontent.fmnl4-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13466330_560692334132447_8222726543409663510_n.jpg?oh=5fc79ad70e045d9dffebf9683efd6598&oe=5802EB99)

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 22, 2016, 11:03:41 AM
That new twisted bastard flavor canine's crave!!!

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on June 22, 2016, 06:24:25 PM
  A death fit for a morsel I mean asshole.   ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 22, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
I would've liked to have seen Ramsay Bolton suffer a bit more. I was hoping Sansa would torture him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 23, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
She still has Littlefinger to mess with...after all, he used her to secure his place...twice in fact...so a few troops to the rescue in the Bolton affair hardly balances the scales...


 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 23, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
I'm ready for Sansa to stop being a victim and start playing the Game of Thrones herself. If dealing with Ramsay Bolton didn't mold her into a woman with iron resolve, nothing will. I want to see her deal with Littlefinger in the way he deserves.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 23, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
She can tell Littlefinger she doesn't owe him sh*t.  Bringing in the Knights of the Vale was him owing her -- for using her as a pawn to the Boltons, and she also saved his ass when the vassals of House Arryn wanted to pin Lysa's murder on him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 23, 2016, 07:00:05 PM
Also I agree I could have done with a bit more drawn out torture of Ramsay.  All along my three desired deaths for him were feeding him to his own hounds (check), flaying him alive like he did to so many others, or burning him alive as an offering to the Lord of Light.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2016, 08:15:35 AM
Cut his angry inch off and stuff it in his serpent mouth...then do all three above.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 24, 2016, 08:53:30 AM
She can tell Littlefinger she doesn't owe him sh*t.  Bringing in the Knights of the Vale was him owing her -- for using her as a pawn to the Boltons, and she also saved his ass when the vassals of House Arryn wanted to pin Lysa's murder on him.

Plus, the Vale is sworn to House Stark. If she (as it looks like she is preparing to do) assumes the role of Lady Stark of Winterfell, it was Littlefinger's duty to come to her aid.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 24, 2016, 08:56:43 AM
I saw a preview for next week's episode that somewhat confirms my suspicion voices earlier, that Melisandre made Jon Snow immortal. In the preview, Ser Davos is yelling at her to "Tell him what you did to him!"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2016, 09:01:50 AM
Is that what that preview was about? I thought it was about what she did to his favorite little princess?

 ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 26, 2016, 10:14:12 PM
Wow.  The plot lines are really converging now.  Finally we see Danaerys going to Westeros.  Looks like she will be landing in Dorne and marshaling her forces there, apparently in unison with Elaria and the Sand Snakes, and with Olenna Tyrell -- all of whom are now driven entirely by a desire for revenge against Cersei.

It's going to be interesting to see how Sansa navigates the new complication with Littlefinger.  Now that the North has declared Jon Snow their new king, there is a direct conflict with Littlefinger's stated ambitions and Sansa is squarely in the middle of it.

So it also looks like Danaerys intends to forge alliances through marriage.  Who?  Perhaps even Jaime Lannister?  Jaime seemed disturbed by what Cersei has done.  All of their children are dead now.  His uncle is dead.  Jaime is now the head of House Lannister, and will need legitimate heirs.  Perhaps Danaerys and Jaime would be a mutually beneficial joining of Houses?  Yes, he did murder her father the king, but she also knows her father was a madman.  Plus perhaps Tyrion has put Jaime into a more positive light.

Or might she end up with Jorah Mormont after all?  She dispatched him to find a cure for his greyscale disease, and you would think as a nobleman of Westeros he would have been aware that Stannis's daughter Shireen Baratheon had been cured of hers in infancy.  I suspect he's gone to track down anyone who could lead him to further info about how Shireen was cured, which will bring him into contact with Davos (and thus with Jon Snow and the whole Winterfell plot).

Ugh.  10 months before we will know any of this.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 27, 2016, 07:32:06 AM
Should be some epic ass-kicking the likes of which Westeros hasn't seen in eons.

And nice to see little Arya putting her new skills to work on the Frey's.   ::thumbsup::

And now we know who John Snow's mother was, thanks to Bran...and speaking of Bran is he far enough away from the White Walkers?

And is cutie-pie Margaery vaporized off the show?   ::cussing::

I was getting tired of the High Sparrow so I can't say I'll miss those clowns...or for the loss of the simpering fool Tommen who defenestrated himself because of his mothers vicious act, which no doubt won't go over well with the people of King's Landing despite any distaste they may have had towards the Sparrows...and more importantly one of their few viable means of defense as just been spent, making an invasion much easier militarily and a citizenry tired of Lannister plots and slaughter could be easier for someone like Varys to turn into allies.

I like that Bronn guy...but unless he switches loyalty...he'll burn with the Lannisters.

And I agree the byplay between Sansa and John Snow and Littlefinger is going to be dicey.  That bastard Littlefinger has a habit of surviving...and if his instincts are still functioning he'll realize going against Snow is doomed to failure...his only real play is to join the alliance...but he also has a history of playing both sides.  If I were Snow I'd have him quietly removed.  Perhaps little Arya can help with that?  Or Brienne when she shows up.

Next season should be a blast.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on June 27, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
  That was like a scene from the god father. She settled all family business in one shot. Snow is not next in line for that title.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 27, 2016, 10:34:40 PM
I think Jon might actually pull a Theon and tell the lords of the North that they're right about the North being led by a Stark of Winterfell, but that they're wrong about it being the King in the North: it is actually the Queen in the North.  Sansa.  She is the reason the battle for Winterfell was won.  She is the trueborn heir of Ned Stark.  Particularly with the revelation of Jon's actual parentage, which he will eventually learn for himself.

The theme emerging is one of women taking the positions of power.  Danaerys of course, but now also we see Yara Greyjoy contending for the Iron Islands, and now Cersei sitting on the Iron Throne and ruling in her own name.  Then there's also Elaria Sand and the Sand Snakes taking over and ruling in Dorne.  It's becoming the Seven Queendoms.

It's going to be Sansa the Queen in the North, Yara the Queen of the Iron Islands, and Danaerys the Queen of Everything Else.  My theory for now anyway :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 28, 2016, 07:17:53 AM
10 months...

Well, there's always DVDs and seeing if I missed anything the first time through, eh?

God knows there isn't sh*t else out there worth watching.

Last night I caught a little of the Rise of the Barbarians series on some damn channel...given our current state of affairs I longed for the days when people didn't puss out.  I guess GOT kinda fits that niche too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Weisshaupt on June 28, 2016, 09:15:56 AM
Game of Thrones  is really expensive no matter how you slice it. I am sure its good, but I am not willing to pay that much yet.
While also full of the gaying of the things, Orphan Black has been somewhat entertaining for us.
Or just admit defeat and start watching the Anime I recommend.  Once you get over the fact that you are an adult watching a cartoon,  you might find that the sotries are, in fact, pretty well written and generally have you yelling at your tv less about stupid xyz thing a character just did out of character or irrationally ( see wayward pines for examples)

 

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 28, 2016, 09:43:07 AM
So at least for now, my hunch about Snow's immortality is not confirmed. It appears that Ser Davos was saying, "Tell him what you did to 'er", referencing Princess Shireen being burned, not "Tell him what you did to him," as I thought I heard in the previews.

But watching that battle scene again, it's hard not to determine that there was something supernatural at work keeping Snow alive. Whether Melisandre's dark witchcraft, the "Lord of Light", other deities, or just fate, they made a point to make it obvious that Snow was dodging certain death more times than could be accounted for by coincidence or being a badass fighter.

Now that we know for sure that Jon is half brother to Danerys, the "Fire and Ice" plot line is beginning to hone to some kind of point.

That season ender was EPIC. Perhaps the best episode of the series so far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on June 28, 2016, 06:30:36 PM
On the other hand they also vaporized the gay right off the show.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on June 28, 2016, 07:17:32 PM
  I was right Little Finger wanted her.  If the crippled Stark gets home he's the rightful king.But I believe the youngest daughter is going to play a big role yet.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on June 28, 2016, 07:25:26 PM
I wonder how Tyrion is going to do with Danaerys allying herself with Ellaria Sand and the Sand Snakes.  They murdered his niece Myrcella, and Tyrion was very fond of her, remarking how she had none of Cersei's awfulness in her.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on June 29, 2016, 06:50:50 AM
He'll get over it...snakes can be discarded after being used.   ::evil::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on June 29, 2016, 08:13:59 AM
With the officially announced 15 episodes until the series finale, there's not much time remaining for some of these subplots to play out.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 11, 2016, 07:09:19 AM
With the officially announced 15 episodes until the series finale, there's not much time remaining for some of these subplots to play out.

Well, between white walkers and dragons...lots of people can die quickly, so that would end a lot of story lines...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2017, 02:52:20 PM
Anybody been watching the recent Christmas-New Years marathon?  I watched the latter episodes from last year just to remind myself what happened...left off with Varyis chatting up Dorne & Highgarden...Mother of Dragons sailing the Narrow Sea...

I'm trying to remember who was who in the Bran three-eyed dreamwalk...when young Ned needed an assist slaying...who the heck was that guy?!  That was his pretty sister and young John Snow, right?  But who was the dude that got slayed?

Anyway...Jan 15th and it fires up.  I wanna see some dragons getting fed!  King's Landing should be an easier sacking now that Queen Batshyt Crazy wasted the good stuff on the High Sparrow and assembled court crawlers!

Idiot Lannister's and their vassals got heap a big trouble coming...and everybody has them White Walker clowns to deal with...kinda like an army of progs who won't die...that's just effing annoying as all Hell!!!

 ::viking::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on January 05, 2017, 06:18:22 PM
I read July it's back.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on January 06, 2017, 06:47:29 AM
Ah crap.  Wonder where I pulled January from?   ::facepalm::

I see the pushed it back, production delays or whatever...all I see is July or mid-year 2017...

Summer, jeesh...wait that long might just as well push it to fall...   :o

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Glock32 on January 31, 2017, 10:12:12 PM
I'm trying to remember who was who in the Bran three-eyed dreamwalk...when young Ned needed an assist slaying...who the heck was that guy?!  That was his pretty sister and young John Snow, right?  But who was the dude that got slayed?


That was Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.  He was a member of the King's Guard serving the Mad King, and had been posted as a guard over Lyana Stark by the Mad King's son, Prince Rhaegar (Lyana's secret lover, and thus the father of Jon Snow).

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_Dayne (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_Dayne)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on February 01, 2017, 07:32:53 AM
I'm trying to remember who was who in the Bran three-eyed dreamwalk...when young Ned needed an assist slaying...who the heck was that guy?!  That was his pretty sister and young John Snow, right?  But who was the dude that got slayed?


That was Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.  He was a member of the King's Guard serving the Mad King, and had been posted as a guard over Lyana Stark by the Mad King's son, Prince Rhaegar (Lyana's secret lover, and thus the father of Jon Snow).

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_Dayne (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Arthur_Dayne)

So, I guess that Sword of the Morning was brought back to Castle Starfall (which I don't recall mentioned anywhere in the HBO series) and awaits a new owner from House Dayne (also don't recall mentioned in current times)...but Wikia link has that in Dorne...so those crazy savage chicks who offed their kin inherited what was once the House of Dayne?  Never heard Dorne's palace referred to as Starfall that I recall either.

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/d/d1/603_Dawn.png)

So, both John Snow and the Mother of Dragons are the only direct claimants to the Iron Throne then with any legitimacy...I guess it would suck to see those two come to blows, but it seems true to the original authors bent to make things as awful as possible.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on July 17, 2017, 07:31:46 PM
Bueller?  Anyone?

What a kick ass way to start the season!  As well as the most depressing segment in the show's history.  If you think your job sucks, just watch poor Samwell.   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on July 17, 2017, 08:14:52 PM
  I watched it once and now I will watch it again to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 18, 2017, 07:30:54 AM
Bueller?  Anyone?

What a kick ass way to start the season!  As well as the most depressing segment in the show's history.  If you think your job sucks, just watch poor Samwell.   ::hysterical::

I thought it a bit of cinematic brilliance to speed up the sequence!   ::hysterical::

I remember it being done in other movie/shows...it really worked in this case...talk about starting at the bottom!   ::puke::

And now we know where Ser Jorah ended up.

And I like the little slaughterfest the young Stark liquidator is on. 

And with the Mother of Dragons back home things should start to pick up.   ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on July 18, 2017, 05:04:57 PM
And I like the little slaughterfest the young Stark liquidator is on.


   That is one pissed of little girl with abilities to do great harm.  Love her.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on July 18, 2017, 06:28:29 PM
She made a list, that's for sure.   ::rockets::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on July 18, 2017, 07:14:10 PM
She made a list, that's for sure.   ::rockets::

  OMG you don't think she's related to Pandora do you ?   ::thinking::  ::ohno:: ::taz::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 18, 2017, 11:40:42 PM
Bueller?  Anyone?

What a kick ass way to start the season!  As well as the most depressing segment in the show's history.  If you think your job sucks, just watch poor Samwell.   ::hysterical::

My wife and I were laughing out loud at that sequence. We both commented that it was the funniest moment on that show by far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on July 19, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
Hat tip, Mike Rowe, of course.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7dIXtXsAAvIF8.jpg)

 ::hysterical::



Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on July 19, 2017, 08:20:03 PM
  My wife walked out of the room and refused tome back till that was over.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 20, 2017, 06:50:29 AM
Hey, when things go dark...chamberpots will come back...

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on July 20, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
Hey, when things go dark...chamberpots will come back...

   One word:  OUTHOUSE
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 20, 2017, 11:27:57 AM
Hey, when things go dark...chamberpots will come back...

   One word:  OUTHOUSE

For you maybe...your better half will be like "...and take this with you and empty it for me honeybunch!"...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on July 20, 2017, 11:44:15 AM
Hey, when things go dark...chamberpots will come back...

   One word:  OUTHOUSE

For you maybe...your better half will be like "...and take this with you and empty it for me honeybunch!"...

 ::hysterical::

  Did you meet her? Cause her idea of ruffing it is B/W t.v.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on July 20, 2017, 07:05:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/970758819728680/ (https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/970758819728680/)

 ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on July 25, 2017, 01:43:27 AM
Did they just completely wipe out two more families, yesterday?  And right before what could have been a hawt scene.   ::pullhair::

Counting the Boltons from Episode 1, they're really cutting the cast, this season.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2017, 12:00:22 PM
Hey, when things go dark...chamberpots will come back...

   One word:  OUTHOUSE

For you maybe...your better half will be like "...and take this with you and empty it for me honeybunch!"...

 ::hysterical::

  Did you meet her? Cause her idea of ruffing it is B/W t.v.

Heh!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2017, 12:01:42 PM
https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/970758819728680/ (https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/970758819728680/)

 ;D

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 27, 2017, 12:04:54 PM
Did they just completely wipe out two more families, yesterday?  And right before what could have been a hawt scene.   ::pullhair::

Counting the Boltons from Episode 1, they're really cutting the cast, this season.

Well the dyke assassin brood of Dorne...not sure how much I'll miss that, or the dyke wannabe queen of of the Ironborn...probably miss less...and Theon/Reek...useless...

All in all perhaps no great loss...and it makes an alliance between Mother of Dragons and the King of the North even more imperative.

What disappointed me the most was Arya abandoning her List and turning tail for home!  WTF?!   ::cussing::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 27, 2017, 03:23:55 PM
I think Theon still lives. Actually, there are several people in that battle who they didn't actually show them die.

I was sad that Nymeria bailed on Arya. Actually, the whole Dire Wolves story arc could've been so much cooler; so much more full of the fantasy genre mystique. But that's not Martin's way I guess. The world he created is dominated by human machinations, and what fantasy elements exist are underplayed, when comparing to authors like Tolkien, Jordan, Donaldson, Goodkind, etc.

Still, something tells me Nymeria will be back when it matters most.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on July 31, 2017, 08:05:36 AM
I think Nymeria is taking orders from a higher power that has three eyes...

Reek survived...in a show where people are slaughtered wholesale...that weasel lives...irony GOT version, eh?

And the bitch queen sacrifices an empty castle to plunder another...there aren't many chess pieces left on this board.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ToddF on August 08, 2017, 06:56:27 PM
Yep, Reek lives, and so does his sister.

Is it me or does anyone else feeling a little bit of a letdown after such a bang up start?  Maybe it's because Martin has given up on writing the story and it's the TV guys now doing the writing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on August 09, 2017, 06:57:02 AM
Kingslayer survived?

I want Arya to resume her hunt.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on August 09, 2017, 08:37:25 PM
  Who was John Snows Father?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 09, 2017, 11:46:16 PM
  Who was John Snows Father?
Rhaegar Targaryan, Daenarys's oldest brother was Snow's father. Lyanna Stark - Ned's sister - was Snow's mother. Lyanna bound Ned to a deathbed oath to protect Snow from Robert Baratheon, so Ned took Snow as his own bastard.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on August 10, 2017, 05:50:43 PM
  Who was John Snows Father?
Rhaegar Targaryan, Daenarys's oldest brother was Snow's father. Lyanna Stark - Ned's sister - was Snow's mother. Lyanna bound Ned to a deathbed oath to protect Snow from Robert Baratheon, so Ned took Snow as his own bastard.

   Perfect were on the same page but what happened to King Roberts bastard son the blacksmith? He hasn't been seen in a while. I may have missed something.  And doesn't that put Snow in line for the throne?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 11, 2017, 12:37:35 AM
  Who was John Snows Father?
Rhaegar Targaryan, Daenarys's oldest brother was Snow's father. Lyanna Stark - Ned's sister - was Snow's mother. Lyanna bound Ned to a deathbed oath to protect Snow from Robert Baratheon, so Ned took Snow as his own bastard.

   Perfect were on the same page but what happened to King Roberts bastard son the blacksmith? He hasn't been seen in a while. I may have missed something.  And doesn't that put Snow in line for the throne?

Gendry... Melisandre used his blood to perform the ritual, and then imprisoned him. Ser Davos let him escape in a rowboat, and he hasn't been seen since. If he still lives, he is the last known Baratheon.

If the Targaryan lineage is what it appears to be (as I described above), then Jon Snow is Danaerys's half-nephew. Not sure where that places him in line for the throne. She is the daughter of the Mad King. Snow is the bastard grandson.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on August 11, 2017, 02:33:59 PM
  What a mess!! You have to love it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2017, 07:01:30 AM
Gendry is with Snow now.  Is Arya being set up by Little Finger?  With people good and bad getting dispatched all the time...how does that worm still breath?

And did anybody else catch that blurb by Samwell's sweetie pie reading from some Maester book about a rumor or legend of Rheagar having a bastard son?  Interesting that a) it came up again...maybe word got back from fans that there was some general confusion to clear up and b) that it didn't trigger a response from Samwell who is naturally fixated on the lack of urgency by the Grand Maester and his cronies about the White Walker threat.

Anyway...

These outreach to the Psycho Queen and capturing a zombie seems pointless to me, but...whatever...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on August 14, 2017, 09:27:19 AM
http://www.thisisinsider.com/game-of-thrones-rhaegar-lyanna-married-jon-snow-targaryen-2017-8 (http://www.thisisinsider.com/game-of-thrones-rhaegar-lyanna-married-jon-snow-targaryen-2017-8)


Another major piece of the puzzle that is Jon Snow's parentage was just unveiled on "Game of Thrones."

While reading old texts with Gilly, Sam Tarly learned that Rhaegar Targaryen — Jon's father— had his marriage to Elia Martell annulled.

The sixth season finale showed  Bran's flashback to the Tower of Joy, where Lyanna Stark lay dying in a bed of blood after giving birth to Jon. We didn't see Rhaegar there, nor was there any mention of him, but book readers have long assumed Rhaegar was Jon's father. HBO even confirmed the theory when they released an infographic in the week after the Tower of Joy scene aired.

And now we know that Jon isn't just a bastard born from a secret love affair between Lyanna and Rhaegar — he's likely their legitimate child and could now surpass Daenerys when it comes to the Iron Throne's Targaryen successor
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 14, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Yup, Snow is no bastard. He's the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on August 14, 2017, 12:43:09 PM
So...Mother of Dragon's named one of her fire-spewing children after the father of the man she wants to "bend the knee" before her, eh?

There's irony running all over each other in this thing!  Won't that scorch some bottoms when it is revealed!

Works for me...let's see what happens  ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2017, 07:09:37 AM
OK, maybe it was just me...but when in the previous episode when the ghouls were toting chains I literally groaned "you have got to be sh*tting me?!"...of all the outrageous twists and turns and slaying and betrayals...none of that bothered/surprised me...turning a dragon?  Yeah, that pees me off...and now this last episode confirms how bad that is...well, I guess they want some dragon on dragon death matches to wrap things up, eh?

But at least there was the rich reward of seeing the Stark girls (with Bran's timely input) dispatch that snake Little Finger...I liked that whole sequence very much.

And yeah, the Bitch Queen lying her ass off...wonder if Kingslayer has had enough of that batshyt crazy twit?

And poor Bran...his timing is off on telling John who he really is...since he has now bedded his...Aunt?

 ::facepalm::

Well, what is done is done...you can unscrew a lightbulb, but...people are something else!



On a looking ahead note...is the rumor that it may take a couple years of work before airing the final season a load of BS?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: John Florida on August 28, 2017, 11:36:47 AM
  Seems everybody expected the dead dragon to come in and take the wall down in minutes??   My jaw dropped and now God only knows when it will be back on.    SOB I'm sick.