It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Welcome Visitors & New Members => Newbie Central - Introduce Yourself! => Topic started by: trapeze on March 08, 2011, 11:32:17 AM
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
...there was this place called the "Powerline Forum." It was part of www.powerlineblog.com (http://www.powerlineblog.com) which some of you may be familiar with. Ah, those were the days, trading verbal punches with left-wing trolls and knocking RINO's at every opportunity. The PLF was sort of a cleaned up and generally more polite version of Free Republic (with lefty trolls).
(other former PLFers may feel free to reminisce)
Then one day, quite unexpectedly and rudely, the owners of Powerline pulled the plug and that was the end of an era.
A very small portion of the PLF membership regrouped at a forum site that was hosted by an odd person who went by the handle "nanosecondinvestments." It was, for those of us who found our way there, the path of least resistance and we pretty much hung out there for about a year.
And that's when the great breakup occurred. Things got a little out of hand. The forum owner sort of went limp and allowed the place to be de facto run (in a tyrannical sort of way) by some politically correct types. These overlords were all concerned about a minor god they worshipped, one whom they called, "tone." Tone was everything to these people and it annoyed several of us to the point where we just couldn't take it anymore.
So one day... IDP created his own forum, announced it to all concerned and jumped ship. And everyone was happy. Well, everyone except the Tone worshippers who remained behind. IDP worked tirelessly to promote the new forum (It's About Freedom) until one day, about a year later, the site owners (you see, it was a "free" forum site) announced that they were pulling the plug on us because of our tone. Seems the site owners were lefties and someone (or several someones) complained enough that there was just too much right wing free speech going on at the IAF forum and that just would not do.
Fortunately this time we had one whole week to gather our things and leave in an orderly fashion. The result of that move is the It's About Liberty forum that is owned lock, stock and barrel by IDP. It is presided over by him, Pandora and me and we have zero allegiance to the tone god.
We welcome our members to post on darned near anything that interests them (with very few exceptions) and comment on anything else that's already on the wall.
If there are any PLF refugees out there we welcome you to join us and ask you to feel free to let us know if you used to post there.
Okay, now fill in the missing stuff that I left out of this history as you see fit...
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Nice to get a little background on you folks! As a refugee from other sites, and a victim of the same type of "forum wars" that you talk about, I can relate to your story. It's nice to be here among fellow conservatives!
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Hopefully "third time charm" comes into play! We've been a band of wanderer's roaming the digital playground from watering hole to watering hole, I hope this will be our Promised Land, Good Lord willin' and the river don't rise! ::thumbsup::
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Trapeze, thanks for sharing this little bit of history.
Although I have arrived on this journey only recently, I am impressed by the brain power here as well as quality of people.
Thanks for allowing me to participate
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Trapeze, thanks for sharing this little bit of history.
Although I have arrived on this journey only recently, I am impressed by the brain power here as well as quality of people.
Thanks for allowing me to participate
The pleasure is ours. Invite friends.
EDIT: And just so that we are clear... Democrats, liberals, progressives and leftists are welcome to participate in the discussion here. We will not, however, tolerate troll behavior.
So if you are a lefty and the high end of your debating skill is to invoke Godwin's Law or you feel you must resort to name calling then save yourself the trouble and don't bother posting 'cause Mr. Ban Hammer will be paying you a visit. But if you are interested in mixing it up in a legitimate way then by all means have at it.
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As an addendum to Trap's last post re; liberals. I heartily concur with his invitation to liberals wishing to engage in legitimate debate. But I must add that I have come to the conclusion that there is only one brand of liberal who will engage in legitimate debate, and that is a liberal who just thinks they're a liberal, but who is really an unborn conservative.
Committed liberals are inherently disingenuous, lying, backstabbing, immoral, traitorous, selfish, sniveling, illogical, anti-American, Marxist sons-of-bitches who will twist themselves into a pretzel trying to defend the indefensible.
So if you are a committed liberal bothering to come here, know that your host is prejudiced against you to the point of snarling hatred, and rethink what you hope to accomplish. But on the other hand if you have voted for Democrats in the past and you're open to having an epiphany, then welcome.
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A reasonable committed liberal is kind of like the Loch Ness Monster. You've heard about it. Some people claim to have seen it. But they haven't reeled one in yet.
But it could still happen.
In theory.
Maybe.
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Powerline had a great vibe for a short period of time. It was my second venture into forum commentary - the first being the Leftist-run digg.com, from which I was repeatedly banned for being too determined in my articulation of the conservative position. (That's my assumption, because I never said anything ban-worthy there.) Powerline was riding the wave after their high-profile exposure during the "Rathergate" scandal, and so conservatives and liberals alike swarmed to the place. For that moment, it was the place to be.
I'd say the conservatives there probably outnumbered the liberals by, oh, Idunno - 5 to 1, something like that? Anyone else have a different recollection? Maybe 10 to 1? Anyhoo, there were enough people there that real-time back-and-forth conversation was often achievable between several people. That's the vision I have for this forum moving into the future. We've had moments of it here and there already. I'd like us to get to the point where people know that when they log on here, something's goin' on. That creates a vibrant dynamic that keeps us all engaged. That's why we're driving for members, and that's why we're going to be very active in encouraging newly registered members to participate.
I don't aim to re-create powerline, but it's instructive to look back at how things were and how things have changed. I'd like something even better than what we had there, with an even greater sense of purpose, enjoyment, and camaraderie. I'm excited at how the new forum seems to facilitate more activity. It seems more user-friendly, and easy to navigate, which in turn seems to keep people checking in.
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PLF was my first foray into commenting anywhere. The first time I did so there, someone challenged my veracity, even though I included a link. The lefty trolls got so bad, because the place was practically unmoderated, that some days I cringed as I logged on (although I kept doing so - that says something about me). I did learn, and quickly, the vicious flame technique as a result of the continual personal insults and name-calling from them. I quickly lost interest in the pages and pages long, drawn out arguments over AGW and the like, where the leftist fallback attack was always on misspellings, from whence comes "altard proofed".
Then there was the abrupt cancellation of the place and the refusal to provide any links to the places where the rest of us landed, although that was probably a result of their half-assed idea of a non-anonymous commenting policy when they again opened comments. That worked out well. ::snark::
No, I do not miss PLF; I do not miss the trolls; and I do not miss the bullspit at CT either.
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Powerline had a great vibe for a short period of time. It was my second venture into forum commentary - the first being the Leftist-run digg.com, from which I was repeatedly banned for being too determined in my articulation of the conservative position. (That's my assumption, because I never said anything ban-worthy there.) Powerline was riding the wave after their high-profile exposure during the "Rathergate" scandal, and so conservatives and liberals alike swarmed to the place. For that moment, it was the place to be.
I'd say the conservatives there probably outnumbered the liberals by, oh, Idunno - 5 to 1, something like that? Anyone else have a different recollection? Maybe 10 to 1? Anyhoo, there were enough people there that real-time back-and-forth conversation was often achievable between several people. That's the vision I have for this forum moving into the future. We've had moments of it here and there already. I'd like us to get to the point where people know that when they log on here, something's goin' on. That creates a vibrant dynamic that keeps us all engaged. That's why we're driving for members, and that's why we're going to be very active in encouraging newly registered members to participate.
I don't aim to re-create powerline, but it's instructive to look back at how things were and how things have changed. I'd like something even better than what we had there, with an even greater sense of purpose, enjoyment, and camaraderie. I'm excited at how the new forum seems to facilitate more activity. It seems more user-friendly, and easy to navigate, which in turn seems to keep people checking in.
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Get Rocketman back here with his imagery!!! He inspired me!!!
Some days I was hard pressed to keep up!
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc107/gunnyroy911/fail-1.gif)
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PLF was my first time too(like a virgin) I have to say I learned a lot and with a lot of the people here supporting me here I are!!I along with Pan was also a shrinking violet unless we were on an immigration thread.
I like those.
P.S. I actually found PLF from reading Laura Ingrahams book It was going to be Little green footbals or PLF.
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as long as there is no laughter::pokeineye::
.......everything is good.
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I had never participated either and was directed to Powerline by Michelle Malkin links. I signed on pretty close to the beginning, thought it would be an opportunity to help those *influential lawyers get right. Really, that's what I thought.
What a door I walked through!
*As said: at that time PL was riding the wave. They were at the top of the hit parade. They appeared on Fox and other national venues and had the opportunity to become influential. Alas, they showed themselves to be models of moderation. Later, with storm clouds on the horizon and rancor at their creation in their belly, they jettisoned their best.
And here we are.
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Hinderaker and Johnson and Mirengoff.
I would have no respect for right wing lawyers if they were all like these guys.
Fortunately there is always Levin.
BTW, funny how Mirengoff made himself a laughingstock on the web. Sure wasn't hard for him to sacrifice his principles for his career. Great trade, putz.
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I had never participated either and was directed to Powerline by Michelle Malkin links. I signed on pretty close to the beginning, thought it would be an opportunity to help those *influential lawyers get right. Really, that's what I thought.
What a door I walked through!
*As said: at that time PL was riding the wave. They were at the top of the hit parade. They appeared on Fox and other national venues and had the opportunity to become influential. Alas, they showed themselves to be models of moderation. Later, with storm clouds on the horizon and rancor at their creation in their belly, they jettisoned their best.
And here we are.
Pretty amusing, CO. I'd just gotten a computer and begun surfing the internet when I happened onto Powerline, with no idea there even was a "hit parade". Commenting was a new animal for me and I was totally unprepared for the comment-wars.
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I was directed to the old digs (IAF) sometime last May or thereabouts. I found the link in a comment left at another site, I think it was Red State. I found this place agreeable because there didn't seem to be a resident RINO contingent like on so many other conservative forums. Though I was not around at Powerline, I had encountered "tone" issues elsewhere, so it's a familiar story.
I will say that activity has already increased since moving into the new accommodations here. I like this forum software better too.
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I had never participated either and was directed to Powerline by Michelle Malkin links. I signed on pretty close to the beginning, thought it would be an opportunity to help those *influential lawyers get right. Really, that's what I thought.
What a door I walked through!
*As said: at that time PL was riding the wave. They were at the top of the hit parade. They appeared on Fox and other national venues and had the opportunity to become influential. Alas, they showed themselves to be models of moderation. Later, with storm clouds on the horizon and rancor at their creation in their belly, they jettisoned their best.
And here we are.
Pretty amusing, CO. I'd just gotten a computer and begun surfing the internet when I happened onto Powerline, with no idea there even was a "hit parade". Commenting was a new animal for me and I was totally unprepared for the comment-wars.
Not so much "war" as much as it was "stick a fork in raptardo or vlad" day.
Liberals displaying their tremendous capacity for disingenuous discussion...
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...Liberals displaying their tremendous capacity for disingenuous discussion...
That's why I want to be very judicious and discriminating about any liberals who happen to show up here. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. I'm really not interested at this point in wading through their BS unless they demonstrate a genuine curiosity about discovering how misguided they've been all along. That will take a very special kind of liberal.
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...Liberals displaying their tremendous capacity for disingenuous discussion...
That's why I want to be very judicious and discriminating about any liberals who happen to show up here. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. I'm really not interested at this point in wading through their BS unless they demonstrate a genuine curiosity about discovering how misguided they've been all along. That will take a very special kind of liberal.
Not so liberal that their brains have fallen out yet, eh?
(http://www.appygamesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/patton.jpg)
IDP, YMB! I salute you Sir!
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I had never participated either and was directed to Powerline by Michelle Malkin links. I signed on pretty close to the beginning, thought it would be an opportunity to help those *influential lawyers get right. Really, that's what I thought.
What a door I walked through!
*As said: at that time PL was riding the wave. They were at the top of the hit parade. They appeared on Fox and other national venues and had the opportunity to become influential. Alas, they showed themselves to be models of moderation. Later, with storm clouds on the horizon and rancor at their creation in their belly, they jettisoned their best.
And here we are.
Pretty amusing, CO. I'd just gotten a computer and begun surfing the internet when I happened onto Powerline, with no idea there even was a "hit parade". Commenting was a new animal for me and I was totally unprepared for the comment-wars.
Not so much "war" as much as it was "stick a fork in raptardo or vlad" day.
Liberals displaying their tremendous capacity for disingenuous discussion...
AHHH the good old days when the only thing missing at the end of the day was stitches!
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I had never participated either and was directed to Powerline by Michelle Malkin links. I signed on pretty close to the beginning, thought it would be an opportunity to help those *influential lawyers get right. Really, that's what I thought.
What a door I walked through!
*As said: at that time PL was riding the wave. They were at the top of the hit parade. They appeared on Fox and other national venues and had the opportunity to become influential. Alas, they showed themselves to be models of moderation. Later, with storm clouds on the horizon and rancor at their creation in their belly, they jettisoned their best.
And here we are.
Pretty amusing, CO. I'd just gotten a computer and begun surfing the internet when I happened onto Powerline, with no idea there even was a "hit parade". Commenting was a new animal for me and I was totally unprepared for the comment-wars.
Not so much "war" as much as it was "stick a fork in raptardo or vlad" day.
Liberals displaying their tremendous capacity for disingenuous discussion...
Yah. Don't forget good ole wDight, the "educator". There's a "Dwight" commenting on PJMedia pieces, almost sure it's him.
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AHHH the good old days when the only thing missing at the end of the day was stitches!
Reasons why I am missing and praying for Rocketman
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Yah. Don't forget good ole wDight, the "educator". There's a "Dwight" commenting on PJMedia pieces, almost sure it's him.
Not So Dwight???
::hysterical::
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I'd like to say I miss all those retards, but that would be dishonest!
Like nasty roaches, no matter how hard you try to get rid of 'em, they just kept coming back for another whuppin'!
And like a scorned woman, they would bring up lost arguments from eons ago...thinking this time they'll make headway!
Foolish bastards!
Trying to have an intelligent fact-based discussion with them was impossible, and after a while I gave up on that tactic and instead cut them off at the pass with ridicule!
Remember all the fun people had with the "ignore" function? And how even having that triggered din't prevent someone he didn't have one of those tards on ignore answered them, then you could see what the tard wrote and that would suck others into the blanket party!
Things were definitely wild and crazy over there.
Ahh, the good 'ol days!
::hysterical::
Any leftward type who wants to sign up here and behave themselves and discuss things factually, fine, but I know the knives will come out quick for any leftbots wanting to stir up things simply because they want to!
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AHHH the good old days when the only thing missing at the end of the day was stitches!
Reasons why I am missing and praying for Rocketman
I don't have any contact info. But maybe someone else?
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Yah. Don't forget good ole wDight, the "educator". There's a "Dwight" commenting on PJMedia pieces, almost sure it's him.
Not So Dwight???
::hysterical::
OLD JIM! ::falldownshocked::
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Yah. Don't forget good ole wDight, the "educator". There's a "Dwight" commenting on PJMedia pieces, almost sure it's him.
Not So Dwight???
::hysterical::
OLD JIM! ::falldownshocked::
Ugh! Old Jaundice I called him!
::foilhathelicopter::
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AHHH the good old days when the only thing missing at the end of the day was stitches!
Reasons why I am missing and praying for Rocketman
I don't have any contact info. But maybe someone else?
He was notified of the move, but you'll remember he removed himself from circulation a couple months before we migrated.
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AHHH the good old days when the only thing missing at the end of the day was stitches!
Reasons why I am missing and praying for Rocketman
I don't have any contact info. But maybe someone else?
He was notified of the move, but you'll remember he removed himself from circulation a couple months before we migrated.
I am receiving updates.
I apologize to the group for being away for so long and for being so uninformed.
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Just glad you decided to come back. You offer a unique insight into things, IMO.
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Just glad you decided to come back. You offer a unique insight into things, IMO.
I like to call a spade a spade.
Speaking of "spades", does anyone know if Ted Rall is still publishing racist cartoons???
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
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Well it's not like they haven't been invited.
I have a theory that in an environment such as this (majority conservative) they aren't interested in investing their time unless there is a substantial audience to prance around in front of. Like there was at PLF. Like there is at HotAir. Otherwise, they figure that it just isn't worth being a punching bag. Because that's just the way it is for libs. They only "win" arguments where they have a majority and can shout down (or ban) their opponents. Their positions don't hold up under serious scrutiny (and they know it) so they stay away from places like this unless they have an audience (which is a weird kind of an exhibitionist sort of thing).
It's also seems to be a uniquely leftist sort of behavior. You don't see too many conservatives fighting the good fight at the DailyKos or PuffHo. They know it's a lost cause and aren't sufficiently masochistic to hang out there and take abuse.
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...They only "win" arguments where they have a majority and can shout down (or ban) their opponents....
That's what happened to me repeatedly at digg.com. I would register an account, spend about 3 or 4 weeks schooling the libs, get banned, resurrect under a new username, and start all over.
You don't see too many conservatives fighting the good fight at the DailyKos or PuffHo. They know it's a lost cause and aren't sufficiently masochistic to hang out there and take abuse.
I tried registering accounts and posting at both places once upon a time. At Kos, my post appeared, and then it was removed and I was banned. At Huffpo, my comment never appeared and I was banned.
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They have enough diversity. Your post exceeds their diversity limits so they have no choice but to ban you. It's nothing more than self preservation. You are a contagion in their midst. The white blood cell in their pus. They are happy in the midst of their fever and infection and do not wish to entertain a molecule or two of antibiotic.
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
It's like a bicycle to me. I never forget how to do it. Really, it's nothing more than applying reason and logic to idiocy. That said, I wouldn't mind the exercise.
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
I really don't anymore, and haven't for a while. Once I settled on the reality of Leftists as the enemy of my country and way of life, I have zero desire to interact rhetorically with them any further. They aren't worth the brain power and precious moments it takes for me to argue against their lies.
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
I really don't anymore, and haven't for a while. Once I settled on the reality of Leftists as the enemy of my country and way of life, I have zero desire to interact rhetorically with them any further. They aren't worth the brain power and precious moments it takes for me to argue against their lies.
That, and they piss me the hell off. It's too much work to interact with them, with very little to show for it except a rise in the BP. Local forum = perfect example. Some days I cannot believe the crap there and the buyers-in. Feh.
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
I really don't anymore, and haven't for a while. Once I settled on the reality of Leftists as the enemy of my country and way of life, I have zero desire to interact rhetorically with them any further. They aren't worth the brain power and precious moments it takes for me to argue against their lies.
That, and they piss me the hell off. It's too much work to interact with them, with very little to show for it except a rise in the BP. Local forum = perfect example. Some days I cannot believe the crap there and the buyers-in. Feh.
And you expect us to believe that YOU sit by saying nothing?WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH PANDORA?? ::evilbat:: ::slapfight::
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I already know what they're going to say, and that they are going to lie and defend that which I find indefensible. I find them utterly contemptible. Arguing with them only legitimizes them as having something worth discussing, which I don't believe they do. I've already come to the conclusions necessary to dismiss them out of hand. Further interaction does nothing for me, and like Pan said, it seriously intrudes on my calm.
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Trap; "You are a contagion in their midst. The white blood cell in their pus."
Eww!
Apt analogy, but it doesn't exactly paint us in a very good image. ;)
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Trap; "You are a contagion in their midst. The white blood cell in their pus."
Eww!
Apt analogy, but it doesn't exactly paint us in a very good image. ;)
Reminds me of the past forum conversations about the "Bug-Chasing" homosexual community. If I was an antibody in that pus I'd stand aside and let infection do its good work.
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...They only "win" arguments where they have a majority and can shout down (or ban) their opponents....
That's what happened to me repeatedly at digg.com. I would register an account, spend about 3 or 4 weeks schooling the libs, get banned, resurrect under a new username, and start all over.
You don't see too many conservatives fighting the good fight at the DailyKos or PuffHo. They know it's a lost cause and aren't sufficiently masochistic to hang out there and take abuse.
I tried registering accounts and posting at both places once upon a time. At Kos, my post appeared, and then it was removed and I was banned. At Huffpo, my comment never appeared and I was banned.
Happens to me everytime I register an account at Think Progress
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
I really don't anymore, and haven't for a while. Once I settled on the reality of Leftists as the enemy of my country and way of life, I have zero desire to interact rhetorically with them any further. They aren't worth the brain power and precious moments it takes for me to argue against their lies.
That, and they piss me the hell off. It's too much work to interact with them, with very little to show for it except a rise in the BP. Local forum = perfect example. Some days I cannot believe the crap there and the buyers-in. Feh.
And you expect us to believe that YOU sit by saying nothing?WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH PANDORA?? ::evilbat:: ::slapfight::
Yes, many times I say nothing; it's just not worth the aggravation.
You've been there, you know exactly what I'm talking about; rebut their bullsht strongly and yer accused of being "adversarial and rude", or "that's a matter of opinion", despite a link. The leftists on the board are a collective, in both the wide and narrow meaning of the word, and they want everybody else in it. And I'm freakin sick and tired of "educating" their g'damned kids via my property taxes, while being told "it's the community's responsibility, as a whole, to contribute - (and they don't mean just money) - to the schools".
It's like IDP wrote:
"I already know what they're going to say, and that they are going to lie and defend that which I find indefensible. I find them utterly contemptible. Arguing with them only legitimizes them as having something worth discussing, which I don't believe they do. I've already come to the conclusions necessary to dismiss them out of hand. Further interaction does nothing for me, and like Pan said, it seriously intrudes on my calm."
We don't always agree on things here, and that's about the level of argument I'm willing to deal with right now. It's going to get a whole lot more "personal" locally, and soon, and I'd just as soon bide my time and energy.
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Trap; "You are a contagion in their midst. The white blood cell in their pus."
Eww!
Apt analogy, but it doesn't exactly paint us in a very good image. ;)
Hey the white blood cells are the good guys. Sometimes overwhelmed and then the body dies. That's DailyKos...the living dead.
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
I really don't anymore, and haven't for a while. Once I settled on the reality of Leftists as the enemy of my country and way of life, I have zero desire to interact rhetorically with them any further. They aren't worth the brain power and precious moments it takes for me to argue against their lies.
That, and they piss me the hell off. It's too much work to interact with them, with very little to show for it except a rise in the BP. Local forum = perfect example. Some days I cannot believe the crap there and the buyers-in. Feh.
And you expect us to believe that YOU sit by saying nothing?WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH PANDORA?? ::evilbat:: ::slapfight::
Yes, many times I say nothing; it's just not worth the aggravation.
You've been there, you know exactly what I'm talking about; rebut their bullsht strongly and yer accused of being "adversarial and rude", or "that's a matter of opinion", despite a link. The leftists on the board are a collective, in both the wide and narrow meaning of the word, and they want everybody else in it. And I'm freakin sick and tired of "educating" their g'damned kids via my property taxes, while being told "it's the community's responsibility, as a whole, to contribute - (and they don't mean just money) - to the schools".
It's like IDP wrote:
"I already know what they're going to say, and that they are going to lie and defend that which I find indefensible. I find them utterly contemptible. Arguing with them only legitimizes them as having something worth discussing, which I don't believe they do. I've already come to the conclusions necessary to dismiss them out of hand. Further interaction does nothing for me, and like Pan said, it seriously intrudes on my calm."
We don't always agree on things here, and that's about the level of argument I'm willing to deal with right now. It's going to get a whole lot more "personal" locally, and soon, and I'd just as soon bide my time and energy.
There you are I thought something happened to you.
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I reached the conclusion that the sort of society they want is so diametrically opposed to what we want (our vision being that of the Founders) that there can be no "debate" or "compromise". I believe it was Ayn Rand who said "What is the compromise between food and poison?" That's exactly how I see the Left.
I'm now convinced that there is going to have to be a physical separation from them, because I am not living in their wet dream Soviet-esque fantasy land. Cohabitation is increasingly impossible. The seeds of this have always been there, but I think it was the election of Chairman Zero that they interpreted to be their green light, and we're now seeing what was only speculative before. Their recent behavior in Wisconsin and Ohio is just the very first fleeting taste of what's to come.
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I think a physical separation would be ideal but I see no practical (or moral, or ethical) way to achieve it. I'm not leaving. They won't voluntarily go. That's a bit of an impasse.
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Unconditional surrender
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Not that I love libtards, but it can become like an echo chamber around here without any libtards to kick around. ::laughonfloor::
Go ahead tell me you don't go out into the fever swamps avery so often to get a fix?I know I do. Every so often I just have to slap one or two aroung just to keep in shape.
I post daily in a forum primarily for trombone players, and yes, they are very very very liberal. It seems like artists and stuff always seem to have a liberal gene grown in them - I don't know what happened to me, but I'm glad!
Anyway, they have a chit-chat section, and under that, they have a purely politics section, and I had to quit posting there because they are so insane. I don't know how otherwise very intelligent members of our society can become such morons when it comes to pollitics, but there you have it. And this forum is not a place to collect wing-nuts like others such as kos or what have you. They are there because of their commonality of being professinal trombone players. Go figure!!
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...I post daily in a forum primarily for trombone players...
Isn't it funny to think about how these online "communities" spring up around just about everything under the sun? Politics I get, but a forum for trombone players??? I never imagined!
I was quite surprised when I stumbled a couple years ago onto a bass-boat/fishing forum and discovered not only a huge online community, but several huge online communities all serving that segment of people. Amazing stuff, these interwebs.
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I was going through some digital stuff and came across an interesting (to me) picture. I had done a screen-grab and what I didn't realize is that it grabbed both screens of my dual-monitor system. I've cropped out the extraneous stuff leaving a little blast from the past...
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g369/J-reb/Powerline2.jpg)
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The first forums I got involved with were music related on either geocities or yahoo.
My favorite for a couple of years was the Stevie Ray Vaughan discussion forum. I met a lot of great people and it opened opportunities to trade bootlegs of concerts.
Like everything else the lefties associated with the site ruined it. post-911 the left was looking for ways to undermine Bush and there was no place that was exempt - even music discussion forums. One prominent poster misused her influence with the site to float anti-Bush sentiments. Naturally I countered her attacks. Equally naturally the other lefties and the squishy middle aligned with her and against me.
That was one of the first sites that I Opussed out of, leaving with a hearty "FU!"
I decided that I needed to expand my political awareness and soon enough discovered FreeRepublic. From there I followed links to such places as Little Green Footballs, Redstate, Politico, and Powerline.
My very first post at Powerline put me in the crosshairs of a female troll (lucy something..Alice maybe?) who flatly told me that I was full of sh!t. That told me that I was in the right place! Roy and Rocketman used to post a pic from "The Blair Witch Project" making fun of her. Anyway, right after that rather abrupt introduction I ran headlong into Old Jim. I didn't think anyone could drink that much Sterno!
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Soup, I found something for you:
::guitar::
Now, I have to look for a trombone player/ham operator. ;D
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I was going through some digital stuff and came across an interesting (to me) picture. I had done a screen-grab and what I didn't realize is that it grabbed both screens of my dual-monitor system. I've cropped out the extraneous stuff leaving a little blast from the past...
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g369/J-reb/Powerline2.jpg)
Holy sh*t............
I see ME...........whoda thunkit!!
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Holy sht! is right! I see you, hemm; Titan Trader, GScott, TJ King, BigTex, The Yell and Soup. No me, though. And a bunch I can't read.
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Holy sht! is right! I see you, hemm; Titan Trader, GScott, TJ King, BigTex, The Yell and Soup. No me, though. And a bunch I can't read.
I miss those guys(get it TJ)
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Ha, Old "Fool" School that was a regular punching bag!!
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Holy sht! is right! I see you, hemm; Titan Trader, GScott, TJ King, BigTex, The Yell and Soup. No me, though. And a bunch I can't read.
The three CT amigos are there. So are Altan, Rhadrin, and Old School. Old School was my f**king nemesis.
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Holy sht! is right! I see you, hemm; Titan Trader, GScott, TJ King, BigTex, The Yell and Soup. No me, though. And a bunch I can't read.
The three CT amigos are there. So are Altan, Rhadrin, and Old School. Old School was my f**king nemesis.
Old School! Ugh; forgot him. Him, Dwight and the "R" word were mine >> "There is no such thing as race". I coulda killed him fifty times for that.
Ralph E. was a union guy, IIRC, and he called me a leftist or a liberal or something and put me on ignore. Me, a leftist. Bwahah.
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I see:
TitanTrader
Jose31V
BigTex
Old School
The Yell
Del Dolemonte
MnHawk
TJKing
Electra
KoreaVet
Hemmershem
Alphabet Soup
On another copy I also saw wraptard and miltrainer.
It reminds me that IDP did a good job of shepherding us over to this new site. There's a couple of names that I miss but a whole bunch that I don't ::oldman::
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Holy sht! is right! I see you, hemm; Titan Trader, GScott, TJ King, BigTex, The Yell and Soup. No me, though. And a bunch I can't read.
The three CT amigos are there. So are Altan, Rhadrin, and Old School. Old School was my f**king nemesis.
Y'all had a good time ::bashing::, aspirin cos took a loss when PL went down. ::exitstageleft::
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Holy sht! is right! I see you, hemm; Titan Trader, GScott, TJ King, BigTex, The Yell and Soup. No me, though. And a bunch I can't read.
The three CT amigos are there. So are Altan, Rhadrin, and Old School. Old School was my f**king nemesis.
I got old fool bounced when he accused me of molesting children (my daughter). Enough was enough.
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I see:
TitanTrader
Jose31V
BigTex
Old School
The Yell
Del Dolemonte
MnHawk
TJKing
Electra
KoreaVet
Hemmershem
Alphabet Soup
On another copy I also saw wraptard and miltrainer.
It reminds me that IDP did a good job of shepherding us over to this new site. There's a couple of names that I miss but a whole bunch that I don't ::oldman::
Oh man, Jose! He came over to CT for a bit and I chewed his ass so bad over him wanting to "compromise on cap & trade" for revenue purposes that he huffed off, never to return.
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Wow, I'm starting to feel like an oldtimer now.
There was a period immediately after 9/11 when I was obsessively searching for news on the internet. Maybe there were blogs before then, but I didn't know about them. It seemed like they really took off right around that time. I don't remember which was the first blog I read, but I quickly started reading several regularly.
I remember when Bill Whittle was a commenter at Rachel Lucas' old blog. This was around the 2002-2003 time frame, before he started his own Eject!Eject!Eject!. I also remember Steven den Beste's "USS Clueless", and Michele Catalano's "A Small Victory". I was reading Belmont Club long before it joined Pajamas Media. I've been reading Neo-Neocon since around 2005 or so. Pretty much all of them linked to Little Green Footballs, and I eventually wound up there. While I had commented at some of those other places, by late 2004 LGF was my "home base".
Things seemed to go pretty smoothly for a while, but in 2006 Charles Johnson abruptly banned a number of longtime members. They went off and formed Gulf Coast Pundit. I stuck with LGF a while longer. In the spring of 2007 I left LGF. While I don't consider myself a "Paulbot", I generally respect Ron Paul and think he's right more often than not, especially on economic issues. At LGF he became the butt of jokes and I became increasingly incensed about it. One Saturday I just walked away from there. I hesitated a long time before deleting the bookmark, because the place was like home to me. I was kind of depressed about it.
I clicked around to a few other links, then checked out Eject!Eject!Eject! I found a guest post by Rachel Lucas. She had quit blogging a couple years earlier, and here she was announcing her brand new blog! I went there and became one of her first commenters. I don't think more than 15 minutes passed between my deleting LGF's bookmark and adding hers. I'll never forget that day.
I also joined Gulf Coast Pundit at that time, and that became my home base for a while. I continued to read and comment at a variety of blogs. In the summer of 2009, GCP's administrator suddenly deleted the whole blog during a very contentious thread about abortion. One of our members was also a member at Conservative Talk and got us temporary accommodations there while we set up a new place which became Grouchy Conservative Pundits (so we could keep the same GCP abbreviation).
(redacted)
So then I started posting at It's About Freedom, and followed the gang here. I still read and comment at numerous other places, though.
(ETA: It was after I left LGF that Charles went batsh!t insane and started banning everyone who disagreed with him, or even thought of doing so. I'm glad I got out while the gettin' was good.)
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I used to read Rachel Lucas and Michelle Catalano; got to DenBeste on the tail-end of his blog. Never got into LGF, really; it annoyed me that the sign up periods were so limited, so I moved on. By the time the first "GCP" plug was pulled, I'd commented only a few times.
The first few places I got acquainted with was the WSJ and National Review Online and caught links and whatnot from there. Funny, I rarely go to National Review now, too RINO for me.
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The first few places I got acquainted with was the WSJ and National Review Online and caught links and whatnot from there. Funny, I rarely go to National Review now, too RINO for me.
Amazing, the evolution of conservative thought, isn't it?
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The first few places I got acquainted with was the WSJ and National Review Online and caught links and whatnot from there. Funny, I rarely go to National Review now, too RINO for me.
Amazing, the evolution of conservative thought, isn't it?
It is. I've "evolved" so radically, I wonder if I'll ever be able to abide gently in any modern society at this point. There's too many people demanding too much I'm unwilling to give and appropriating what was never meant to be theirs.
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The first few places I got acquainted with was the WSJ and National Review Online and caught links and whatnot from there. Funny, I rarely go to National Review now, too RINO for me.
Amazing, the evolution of conservative thought, isn't it?
Buckley's probably spinning in his grave .
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The first few places I got acquainted with was the WSJ and National Review Online and caught links and whatnot from there. Funny, I rarely go to National Review now, too RINO for me.
Amazing, the evolution of conservative thought, isn't it?
It is. I've "evolved" so radically, I wonder if I'll ever be able to abide gently in any modern society at this point. There's too many people demanding too much I'm unwilling to give and appropriating what was never meant to be theirs.
That sums it up perfectly. It ain't theirs and I'll kill 'em to keep their grubby thieving hands off my stuff if they don't cease and desist soon.
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My first experience in writing posts was over at Powerline and I concur with Trap's sentiments. Here I was, a middle aged guy with absolutely nothing in his life requiring application of my Political Science degree (from a fantastic, very small Quaker liberal arts school.) Then one day, shazam! I discovered Powerline and made a few comments. Back in the day, your comments could be rated, and I became obsessed with producing informative posts with a quirky humorous angle. Then, those miserable PL bastards stuck a dagger in my heart, bloggus interruptous, by bailing out without any notice whatsoever. Did I just just a naughty word to describe those selfish ingrates? Bastards can't help being bastards. They are just born that way.
Eventually, most of us landed at that other site, hosted by an admitted drunk and fantasist, nanosecondwhatshisname, and the Great Tone Wars began. I became disgusted, and along with the creme de la creme of the CT folks, migrated over to Its About Freedom. Not to be a conspiracy theorist or anything, but apparently some of the losers over at CT, jealous of the success of IDP's IAF, complained to the Proboard's owners like the whiny little bitches that they are, and we get shut down with only a week's notice.
So I say to the newbies: Welcome to our world! We are the grizzled veterans of the Tone Wars. We give no quarter and ask none. You better be able to back up your opinions or suffer the consequences. Enjoy a laugh or two, get to know the personalities behind the scenes here, and become a part of our little family.
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My first experience in writing posts was over at Powerline and I concur with Trap's sentiments. Here I was, a middle aged guy with absolutely nothing in his life requiring application of my Political Science degree (from a fantastic, very small Quaker liberal arts school.) Then one day, shazam! I discovered Powerline and made a few comments. Back in the day, your comments could be rated, and I became obsessed with producing informative posts with a quirky humorous angle. Then, those miserable PL bastards stuck a dagger in my heart, bloggus interruptous, by bailing out without any notice whatsoever. Did I just just a naughty word to describe those selfish ingrates? Bastards can't help being bastards. They are just born that way.
Eventually, most of us landed at that other site, hosted by an admitted drunk and fantasist, nanosecondwhatshisname, and the Great Tone Wars began. I became disgusted, and along with the creme de la creme of the CT folks, migrated over to Its About Freedom. Not to be a conspiracy theorist or anything, but apparently some of the losers over at CT, jealous of the success of IDP's IAF, complained to the Proboard's owners like the whiny little bitches that they are, and we get shut down with only a week's notice.
So I say to the newbies: Welcome to our world! We are the grizzled veterans of the Tone Wars. We give no quarter and ask none. You better be able to back up your opinions or suffer the consequences. Enjoy a laugh or two, get to know the personalities behind the scenes here, and become a part of our little family.
That's a very good synopsis, BAS.
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My first experience in writing posts was over at Powerline and I concur with Trap's sentiments. Here I was, a middle aged guy with absolutely nothing in his life requiring application of my Political Science degree (from a fantastic, very small Quaker liberal arts school.) Then one day, shazam! I discovered Powerline and made a few comments. Back in the day, your comments could be rated, and I became obsessed with producing informative posts with a quirky humorous angle. Then, those miserable PL bastards stuck a dagger in my heart, bloggus interruptous, by bailing out without any notice whatsoever. Did I just just a naughty word to describe those selfish ingrates? Bastards can't help being bastards. They are just born that way.
Eventually, most of us landed at that other site, hosted by an admitted drunk and fantasist, nanosecondwhatshisname, and the Great Tone Wars began. I became disgusted, and along with the creme de la creme of the CT folks, migrated over to Its About Freedom. Not to be a conspiracy theorist or anything, but apparently some of the losers over at CT, jealous of the success of IDP's IAF, complained to the Proboard's owners like the whiny little bitches that they are, and we get shut down with only a week's notice.
So I say to the newbies: Welcome to our world! We are the grizzled veterans of the Tone Wars. We give no quarter and ask none. You better be able to back up your opinions or suffer the consequences. Enjoy a laugh or two, get to know the personalities behind the scenes here, and become a part of our little family.
You big softy you!! ::kissface::
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My first experience in writing posts was over at Powerline and I concur with Trap's sentiments. Here I was, a middle aged guy with absolutely nothing in his life requiring application of my Political Science degree (from a fantastic, very small Quaker liberal arts school.) Then one day, shazam! I discovered Powerline and made a few comments. Back in the day, your comments could be rated, and I became obsessed with producing informative posts with a quirky humorous angle. Then, those miserable PL bastards stuck a dagger in my heart, bloggus interruptous, by bailing out without any notice whatsoever. Did I just just a naughty word to describe those selfish ingrates? Bastards can't help being bastards. They are just born that way.
Eventually, most of us landed at that other site, hosted by an admitted drunk and fantasist, nanosecondwhatshisname, and the Great Tone Wars began. I became disgusted, and along with the creme de la creme of the CT folks, migrated over to Its About Freedom. Not to be a conspiracy theorist or anything, but apparently some of the losers over at CT, jealous of the success of IDP's IAF, complained to the Proboard's owners like the whiny little bitches that they are, and we get shut down with only a week's notice.
So I say to the newbies: Welcome to our world! We are the grizzled veterans of the Tone Wars. We give no quarter and ask none. You better be able to back up your opinions or suffer the consequences. Enjoy a laugh or two, get to know the personalities behind the scenes here, and become a part of our little family.
You big softy you!! ::kissface::
::rockethrow:: way way to mushy.......... ::pokeineye::
WE need some tone roun' he'ya ::thinking::
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I have been banned so many times at insessions, I am weary of thinking up new nics and setting up email addys. Once I even got banned for someone elses post! ::smallestviolin::
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I have been banned so many times at insessions, I am weary of thinking up new nics and setting up email addys. Once I even got banned for someone elses post! ::smallestviolin::
What is "insessions"?
No fears here; we're careful about misunderstandings and banning is an absolute last resort. Unless a typical, lying, disrespectful, propaganda-spewing lefty stumbles in here by mistake. (Redundancy alert, there) ;D
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http://boards.insessiontrials.com/index.php (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/index.php)
Used to be called Court TV. ::oldman::
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http://boards.insessiontrials.com/index.php (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/index.php)
Used to be called Court TV. ::oldman::
Aww, were you too hard on the societally-oppressed defendants?
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I've noticed "Lady Virginia" hasn't posted in a while now.
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I reached the conclusion that the sort of society they want is so diametrically opposed to what we want (our vision being that of the Founders) that there can be no "debate" or "compromise". I believe it was Ayn Rand who said "What is the compromise between food and poison?" That's exactly how I see the Left.
I'm now convinced that there is going to have to be a physical separation from them, because I am not living in their wet dream Soviet-esque fantasy land. Cohabitation is increasingly impossible. The seeds of this have always been there, but I think it was the election of Chairman Zero that they interpreted to be their green light, and we're now seeing what was only speculative before. Their recent behavior in Wisconsin and Ohio is just the very first fleeting taste of what's to come.
We could have the physical separation if states were given (back) thier authority....stripped away by liberals and thier programs to "save America". Lib infested states are failing. They need "the collective" to prop up thier hidious programs.
If we could give the states back thier rights, the lib ones would fail, leaving only to live in peace.
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I see:
TitanTrader
Jose31V
BigTex
Old School
The Yell
Del Dolemonte
MnHawk
TJKing
Electra
KoreaVet
Hemmershem
Alphabet Soup
On another copy I also saw wraptard and miltrainer.
It reminds me that IDP did a good job of shepherding us over to this new site. There's a couple of names that I miss but a whole bunch that I don't ::oldman::
Something Trap said about his son triggered a thought.
SkipSailing, I believe, was lured into a trap by Dwipe which got him banished by the absentee landlords.
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I see:
TitanTrader
Jose31V
BigTex
Old School
The Yell
Del Dolemonte
MnHawk
TJKing
Electra
KoreaVet
Hemmershem
Alphabet Soup
On another copy I also saw wraptard and miltrainer.
It reminds me that IDP did a good job of shepherding us over to this new site. There's a couple of names that I miss but a whole bunch that I don't ::oldman::
Something Trap said about his son triggered a thought.
SkipSailing, I believe, was lured into a trap by Dwipe which got him banished by the absentee landlords.
Any body have contact info on him?I gave up on susango when I sent her a birthdy email and she didn't answer.
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I liked susango. She was posting at GCP for quite a while but stopped. I don't remember exactly when that was, but it was some time ago. I hope she's OK.
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I liked susango. She was posting at GCP for quite a while but stopped. I don't remember exactly when that was, but it was some time ago. I hope she's OK.
I don't know what happened either. She was busy with something for a while and then it was over.
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SkipSailing, I believe, was lured into a trap by Dwipe which got him banished by the absentee landlords.
Thanks for "bumping" this thread! SkipSailing loved scrapping with the ar-tards ::slapfight::
One thing I've encountered at a few discussion sites was the clique mentality. You're new and everybody knows it. You haven't built up any credibility so people look sideways at you when you post. No one (yet) knows your sense of humor. It seems like no matter what you do or how you conduct yourself you'll always be considered an outsider.
One of the reasons why I followed the folks from Powerline through our circuitous route to here has been their openness and acceptance of new folks. This is one of the most welcoming sites around.
I'm hoping more will take advantage of this thread to recount their interwebby explorations. ;)
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I've noticed "Lady Virginia" hasn't posted in a while now.
I'm back!
I was out of town visiting my daughter and I didn't take my computer!
I'm catching up on all the posts I missed over the past week.
My daughter's apartment was an Obama free zone. Niiiiice. LOL
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I've noticed "Lady Virginia" hasn't posted in a while now.
I'm back!
I was out of town visiting my daughter and I didn't take my computer!
I'm catching up on all the posts I missed over the past week.
My daughter's apartment was an Obama free zone. Niiiiice. LOL
Welcome home! ::kissface::
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I've noticed "Lady Virginia" hasn't posted in a while now.
I'm back!
I was out of town visiting my daughter and I didn't take my computer!
I'm catching up on all the posts I missed over the past week.
My daughter's apartment was an Obama free zone. Niiiiice. LOL
Welcome home! ::kissface::
And how! Must have been nice being in an Obama-free-zone. By now, I must have the quickest radio-channel-changing finger in the East to avoid having to hear him.
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I've noticed "Lady Virginia" hasn't posted in a while now.
I'm back!
I was out of town visiting my daughter and I didn't take my computer!
Welcome home! ::kissface::
Thanks. Got home in time to vote yesterday. So far I didn't do too well. But I think I'm more interested in what's happening in WI. Any victory for the dems will only embolden them more if that's possible.
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I've noticed "Lady Virginia" hasn't posted in a while now.
I'm back!
I was out of town visiting my daughter and I didn't take my computer!
I'm catching up on all the posts I missed over the past week.
My daughter's apartment was an Obama free zone. Niiiiice. LOL
I didn't think you'd disappear as quickly as you arrived! Welcome back.
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Skipsailing was a great fighter against the leftists. I always enjoyed his posts. Sure would like to see him here although there isn't anyone for him to work on. I guess we could import some lefties if we had to.
Anyone remember orions? I discovered his real identity with a little bit of careful internet research. He left enough clues in his posts that made it somewhat easy to track him down. Wow, what a nutjob. If we ever did need an absolute kook we could try and dig him up.
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And how! Must have been nice being in an Obama-free-zone. By now, I must have the quickest radio-channel-changing finger in the East to avoid having to hear him.
I got to where I couldn't stand my local radio stations because of the stories and they way they present them. So now I stream radio stations over my computer that are much more palatable. If I happen upon a station that carries the O's speech or some such nonsense I can just switch to another. It's really fun to listen to stations around the country. Been listening to stations in Indiana, Oklahoma, Maryland, California, Texas. Fun. (I use radiotime.com)
Anyway, my daughter and I did talk politics--just not about that man currently occupying the oval office--one of her favorite things is to read from speeches and writings of Washington, etc and we talk about it.
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AAIIIEEE!!! Can we not do that, please! This is one place where I know I won't encounter the lefty bullsht that I do every time I venture out of the house or log onto my local forum. It's a haven from the UNsane.
Besides, no lefty is going to hang around long after the first thorough beating.
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They only survive in packs. But the same can be said for us. Personally, I wouldn't last long at a place like PuffHo or Kos even if they didn't ban me (and they would). The intellectual vacuum would be too tough for me.
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Hi all,
Newbie here. I was directed to the site by a friend that was just appalled that obama (that's right he deserves no title or capitalization) told a working man (taxpayer = obamas boss) that he should trade in his gas guzzler and buy a hybrid. I read that whole thread and thought "Oh my God, I'm home".
A little about me (not sure if this is the correct thread since I have not had time to browse the whole site, but here goes), I'm originally from Pittsburgh, Pa. but now live in San Diego, Ca., I'm an Engineer at a major aerospace corporation, am married with children (only 1 at home), and am completely worried about my country. I have served my country proudly in the USAF (as a B-52 Defensive Aerial Gunner). I like fast cars, beautiful women and video games, so feel free to strike up a conversation about those at any time, but most of all I love my freedom and do not want to see that taken away from me.
On November 5, 2008 I realized that the end of the world had just started and have been in a depressed funk ever since. I was briefly elated after the 2010 elections but still see trouble brewing. I'm hopeful that the average voter can now see through the smoke and mirrors of the "Hope and Change" but till I see those liberal retards that put this POS in the White House realize their mistake I will be in this funk. I hope conversing with like-minded people will slowly bring me back to the hopeful and optimistic lad I once was.
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Welcome to the forum Ben. May I ask what breadcrumbs you followed to find us here?
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Welcome ben,
Pull up a chair get comfortable and join in.
And thank you for your service to America.
I slept better knowing y'all were up there.
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Thanks for the warm welcome, a buddy that I work with linked me directly to this forum. It was the obama "trade in your Pick-Up" comment.
Charles, I slept better knowing I was up there too... did I just say that out loud? LOL
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Benb, welcome home. Pull up a chair, get comfortable, look around when you can and make yourself a familiar.
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Welcome, benb. I'm not an engineer, but I've been a space buff since I was a little kid. Some other sites where I've been known to hang out are Transterrestrial Musings (http://www.transterrestrial.com/) and NASASpaceflight.com. (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php)
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Hi Ben stick around and enjoy the view. ::USA::
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Thanks for the warm welcome, a buddy that I work with linked me directly to this forum. It was the obama "trade in your Pick-Up" comment.
Charles, I slept better knowing I was up there too... did I just say that out loud? LOL
Hi ben ...
I came in one rainy night and there was a bunch of people sitting in a circle and a guy stood up and said ; "Hi , I'm Irving and I'm an al... " Oh ... wrong group ! Sorry .
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Thanks for the warm welcome, a buddy that I work with linked me directly to this forum. It was the obama "trade in your Pick-Up" comment.
Charles, I slept better knowing I was up there too... did I just say that out loud? LOL
Hi ben ...
I came in one rainy night and there was a bunch of people sitting in a circle and a guy stood up and said ; "Hi , I'm Irving and I'm an al... " Oh ... wrong group ! Sorry .
::rolllaughing::
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Thanks for the warm welcome, a buddy that I work with linked me directly to this forum. It was the obama "trade in your Pick-Up" comment.
Charles, I slept better knowing I was up there too... did I just say that out loud? LOL
Hi ben ...
I came in one rainy night and there was a bunch of people sitting in a circle and a guy stood up and said ; "Hi , I'm Irving and I'm an al... " Oh ... wrong group ! Sorry .
::rolllaughing::
Gotta love him sick as he is!!
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Welcome Ben. I'm not an aerospace engineer, but I drove by a Holiday Inn Express one time. Pull up a chair, dip some snuff and, oh wait, that's Pandora. Don't be shy. No Tone Po-Lice or Drama Queens here.
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Hey, Ben, good to have ya' here!
I find myself suffering from outrage fatigue these days, but this is a good place to vent and talk w/ good, like-minded folks.
A BUFF gunner, huh? I was Army, but would still give my left arm to get up in one. Even just climb around while it's tied down, but I haven't seen any at any air shows.
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Ok Time to introduce my self: I'm a Marine, Cajun, Living in the upper Mid-West flyover country by way of the socialist state of Californiction.
One kid in Computer Eng. school and a Junior in High School.
I'm a Facilities Management Supervisor at a local CC......Big word for a turd herder that can change a light bulb!
And I just found out that my kids High School teacher for Government and History has a pocket Constitution in his breast pocket (And uses "IT") and gives them out to the Grad's upon graduation!
There is Hope as long as we have stay strong.
::USA::God Bless America ::USA::
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OORAH, Lucky!
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...And I just found out that my kids High School teacher for Government and History has a pocket Constitution in his breast pocket (And uses "IT") and gives them out to the Grad's upon graduation!
There is Hope as long as we have stay strong.
::USA::God Bless America ::USA::
That is rare and special indeed. It should not be. It should be mandatory.
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Well, some of you know me already for GCP.
But first, I owe rickl an apology. The email ball was in my court, and I still have it in my drafts folder. No excuses, but an apology just the same.
Now, how did I get here? All blame for that mistake goes to pandora. Yell at her.
[Now those of youse who already know me can skip the rest.]
But going back in time, I first started reading a blog called ProDeathPenalty, I was always interested in who would be juiced next (although now it's injected and takes some of the fun out of it). That site had a 'Scheduled Executions' section which was my weekly read in the late '90's, even more frequent if there were some executions going on; the NYTimes always had that negative slant, and executions were never a negative with me, even from when I was a little boy. Went against Catholic teachings and the nuns were none too happy, but 'some people jus' need killin'.' Maybe it was the Westerns I watched as a kid with that frontier justice, I don't know. But I guess that made me a conservative before I even knew what a conservative was. Sometime around 2004, wonder of wonders, I discovered the blog had a comment section set up like this one. I joined. There were members from all over the world as the death penalty is like honey to bears. And let me tell you, you think lefties are bad on political blogs? They were much worse on that one. 'Oh, killing a prisoner is state murder', crap like that. And the scumpals (those who communicate with prisoners, and even marry them -- gack!) were the worst of the worst. With some of these anti clowns, even life without parole was cruel and unusual punishment. Of course, there were also those Brits, Aussies and Canucks who longed for the DP to come back in their countries, a forlorn hope at best.
A little before that, around middle 2002, I don't know how but I stumbled upon Little Green Footballs. It was a pro-kill the terrorists website, with a lot of like-minded people. There were the trolls, but it was an anti-jihad clearing house, and I learned a lot from the many posters. It took me a half a year to get the courage to post. I stuck around there until just after the 2008 election, by which time the blog owner was going off the rails. he made a name for himself with the 'throbbing San rather memo', and did some decent posting of the fauxtography scandal in the Israeli-Hesb'Allah War in Lebanon in 2006. It was there that I 'met' many of the members of GCP, though I didn't have much interaction with them. LGF was a site with an incredible amount of members back then, and it was pretty much open 24 hours what with anti-jihadi people posting from all over the world (although South America was underrepresented, which was a surprise, as were the totalitarian regimes, which was not a surprise). While there, I found other great blogs in the blogroll. I went for a time to a place called TongueTied, run by an Aussie, I believe, and it was a humorous look at PC insanity. Also from LGF, I found my way to Spencer's DhimmiWatch and JihadWatch, now rolled into only JihadWatch. Again, post 9/11, I was desperate to learn what I could about my enemies, what made them tick, how to hurt them. These used to be goto blogs, but that has trailed off in the Age of Obama. Another place I found was AceofSpades, a place I still frequent, along with Wizbang, though i never frequented it much. I managed to get an account at Hot, now TepidAir, and boy was that a pain. I still occasionally post there, but find that place to be only RINO, at best, 24/7. I'm also at GatewayPundit quite often, and visit neo-neocon frequently. There is a poster at neo's place, artfldgr (or something like that), who is apparently a refugee from Soviet Russia and whose posts, while oftentimes excruciatingly long, are quite informative. Again, I go where I can learn.
Then there's GCP, which is pretty much my home base. From there, when there were problems, I heard about Nano's Place. Went there and registered, but only posted once, maybe twice. For some reason, the atmosphere, or whatever, just did not mesh with me. Now that I've read the 'tone' posts here, I now know why 'tone' is exactly correct. Reminded me of the fake collegiality in Congress, which pisses me off to no end.
Those of you who know me, know I have a love of food, cooking it and eating it. I've never had any formal training, except for hanging out in the kitchen with some pretty good female cooks in the family: My Mom, her Mom and one of her sisters, my dad's mom and one of his sisters. By brother's MiL made the best damned sauteed oysters. What is funny is that, while they were all good cooks, they were basic cooks with some very tried and very true recipes. Me? I'm the creative type. I'll try anything, and will adjust recipes on the spot to delete things I don't like (raw tomatoes), substitute (red peppers for green), or add (like mushrooms, citrus zest/juice and the like). So I'd say I'm the best creative cook in the family, and I will share some of my concoctions here. Before I do that, though, I do have to add a few comments to the existing food threads, especially the missing ingredients in the baked stuffed potato recipe. I have some simple recipes, with as few as four ingredients, and more complex ones, a beans and franks recipe that had over 30 ingredients. I'm also big on making my own stocks, chicken, pork and beef. That started thanks to a dinner I made for a good friend, shrimp and green olives in a red sauce (which started with anchovies) over linguine. I bought shrimp with the head on, cut off the heads and peeled the shrimp, and put all that 'garbage' into a large saucepot and simmered for about 4 hours. (Note: If this is being done indoors, open the windows and crank on a fan or two; if you can make shrimp stock outdoors on a grill, all the better.) That amber colored shrimp stock was added to the pasta water and to the frying pan where all the ingredients went together. It really turned me on to homemade stocks, and they freeze well. Plus, you know exactly how much sodium is in them -- none!
But back to politics. As I said, my support of and belief in the death penalty gave me a conservative foundation, though I'd've be hard-pressed to admit to that. Until 9/11. I was on 5th Avenue and 18th St. when that happened. That was a life-defining and life-changing moment. No more liberal veneer. I knew at the time that it was muslims, though I did not know from where. I had read a site back in the late '90's called UNRWA, or something like that, which detailed the abuses the Taliban in Afghanistan inflicted on their women, including videos of executions in soccer stadiums; that was a real eye opener. After Somalia in '93, and the African Embassy bombings in '98, I was pretty much not enthralled with muslims. I also remembered the muslim who shot up cars just outside CIA headquarters in Langley, and remember his execution, as well as the hero's welcome his body received in his native Pakistan. I had a good friend who was in WTC 4 when the '93 bombing occurred. I have been fortunate enough to have been on the catwalk on top of WTC 2 (the South Tower). That's something I'll never forget. So 9/11 was personal for me, as well as every atrocity that has occurred since. I am thoroughly disgusted with our Constitutional Law Perfessor, Jugears McF*ckstick. I've always hated commies (a holdover from the nuns in my 12 years of Catholic education). My father's family is from Hungary (actually the Hungarian part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, my grandma coming here in 1911). I have a connection to Hungary in that I was born in the year 1956, the year of the Hungarian Revolution. I was lucky enough as an Eagle scout to attend the World Jamboree in Japan at the age of 15, in 1971. That was some World Jamboree; we were hit by a typhoon and, once the eye passed, had to be evacuated. Nothing like sleeping in a pup tent in a typhoon. The recent tsunami broke my heart. But I mentioned this before, that with the Japanese earthquake and tsunami, you could tell the difference between a first world country and a third world one (like Indonesia and Haiti). That the Japanese have handled their tragedy with such class and pull-togetherness is a testimony to how far they've advanced since the end of WWII.
Anyway, that's enough for now. Like many here, I don't suffer proglibtard fools gladly, and I'm tired of trying to convince them with reason. They're commies, and the only good commie is a dead one. Oh, and I'm sick of the reacharounds the RINOs give to the Dems in Congress, as well as to Obama. We need every Republican to have the fighting spirit of Rep. West (R-FL).
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Damn good pedigree RickZ. I think you'll fit in here nicely! ::thumbsup::
Welcome aboard!
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Nice to meet you. It's always nice to read the pedigree of members.
I'll take the opportunity(again) to thank IDP for the invite. Always politically active, most of my time online surrounded my 2nd job...fishing. (Well, really not a job) I visited fishing sites and their boards, with the occasional political post or two. Nothing much. Most outdoor types tend to be conservative, just not too informed. I do visit Ace Of Spades and appreciate the op eds at American Thinker and I visit The Heritage Foundation, but I'm not registered anywhere else but here.
Anyway, IDP invited me to the "other" board, which turns into the forum we have today.
BTW, I find myself increasingly having no time for any democrat.
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BTW, I find myself increasingly having no time for any democrat.
Time is short -- so why bother.
rather spend it doing what I like with people I like. ::beertoast::
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Ah! I see you've found your way here, Rick; good.
And you're not here five minutes and already inciting a yell at me and correcting my stuffed 'tater recipe. Sigh. ::smallestviolin::
Conservatives are soooo opinionated. ::saywhat::
;D
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Welcome the the forum rickz. Now I spose I'll need to add the "L" back into Rickl's name.
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Welcome the the forum rickz. Now I spose I'll need to add the "L" back into Rickl's name.
Work...work...work...
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Nice to meet you. It's always nice to read the pedigree of members.
I'll take the opportunity(again) to thank IDP for the invite. Always politically active, most of my time online surrounded my 2nd job...fishing. (Well, really not a job)
Hey Don, for your listening pleasure: The first line " . . . If I could make my livin goin' fishin' . . ."
Sunny Sweeney - If I Could (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtoM1-dGw0#ws)
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Nice to meet you. It's always nice to read the pedigree of members.
I'll take the opportunity(again) to thank IDP for the invite. Always politically active, most of my time online surrounded my 2nd job...fishing. (Well, really not a job)
Hey Don, for your listening pleasure: The first line " . . . If I could make my livin goin' fishin' . . ."
Sunny Sweeney - If I Could (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtoM1-dGw0#ws)
LOLOLOL...I'm goin fishin tomarrow.
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Damn ! That "Guest" to "User" ratio is over ten to one ! It gets a little creepy when you wonder who's watching .
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Damn ! That "Guest" to "User" ratio is over ten to one ! It gets a little creepy when you wonder who's watching .
You noticed that too.
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PTB remains silent.
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306:24 right now.
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449 : 27 this morning . Getting spookier all the time ! ::whoohoo::
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Oh, 451 now, ya drew in 2 more SH!
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Yeah ... I draw Spooks like sh*t draws flies !
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563 : 32 ... Spookiness growing exponentially !
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565:32! It's those two spooks again SH!
::rolllaughing::
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I'm not really a refugee from anywhere else, I lurk at several sites, and I've been a member of Redstate for some years, and comment there some, and found this site via a link from there. I recognized IDP from his(?) posts there, and checked out this site. I haven't had a lot of time lately to spend on the web, but got an email today telling me I would be "purged", so here I am. It takes a little while to get to know the members of a forum, but I do recognize a few here from other places. It's About Liberty seems to be a bit less strident than certain other conservative sites, and infinitely less so than any left-leaning site I may stumble into from time to time. So anyway, I promise I'll be more active here, just don't fire me, please. ::praying::
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I'm not really a refugee from anywhere else, I lurk at several sites, and I've been a member of Redstate for some years, and comment there some, and found this site via a link from there. I recognized IDP from his(?) posts there, and checked out this site. I haven't had a lot of time lately to spend on the web, but got an email today telling me I would be "purged", so here I am. It takes a little while to get to know the members of a forum, but I do recognize a few here from other places. It's About Liberty seems to be a bit less strident than certain other conservative sites, and infinitely less so than any left-leaning site I may stumble into from time to time. So anyway, I promise I'll be more active here, just don't fire me, please. ::praying::
Glad to have you. Post away at will.
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I'm not really a refugee from anywhere else, I lurk at several sites, and I've been a member of Redstate for some years, and comment there some, and found this site via a link from there. I recognized IDP from his(?) posts there, and checked out this site. I haven't had a lot of time lately to spend on the web, but got an email today telling me I would be "purged", so here I am. It takes a little while to get to know the members of a forum, but I do recognize a few here from other places. It's About Liberty seems to be a bit less strident than certain other conservative sites, and infinitely less so than any left-leaning site I may stumble into from time to time. So anyway, I promise I'll be more active here, just don't fire me, please. ::praying::
You're safe from this round of layoffs Daniel, thanks for being counted among the living. I recognize your handle from RedState. The comments section over there is about as good as it gets on any mainstream blogs, especially if one takes advantage of the diary option.
Aside from a strong bent toward constitutional conservatism and the natural outflow of "small L" libertarianism, you'll find that political correctness is dead as a doornail here. There are some among the genteel who may view that as stridency, and that's OK. Stridency is a subjective quality depending upon where one draws up the parameters. We just call it home, camaraderie, and a refusal to behave according to the Left's playbook.
Look forward to getting to know you.
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Welcome Daniel!
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Don't be a stranger.
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I'm not really a refugee from anywhere else, I lurk at several sites, and I've been a member of Redstate for some years, and comment there some, and found this site via a link from there. I recognized IDP from his(?) posts there, and checked out this site. I haven't had a lot of time lately to spend on the web, but got an email today telling me I would be "purged", so here I am. It takes a little while to get to know the members of a forum, but I do recognize a few here from other places. It's About Liberty seems to be a bit less strident than certain other conservative sites, and infinitely less so than any left-leaning site I may stumble into from time to time. So anyway, I promise I'll be more active here, just don't fire me, please. ::praying::
A purging of the inactive members is not a ban, just a deletion. You're free to register again if it happens.
In any case, welcome.
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Daniel ... Right off the bat you sound like a reasonable individual ... But we can fix that in no time ! Just stick around .
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. . . So anyway, I promise I'll be more active here, just don't fire me, please. ::praying::
Chill dude. IDP ain't no Donnie Trump. He's more like Donnie Osmond. With more musical talent.
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I'm not really a refugee from anywhere else, I lurk at several sites, and I've been a member of Redstate for some years, and comment there some, and found this site via a link from there. I recognized IDP from his(?) posts there, and checked out this site. I haven't had a lot of time lately to spend on the web, but got an email today telling me I would be "purged", so here I am. It takes a little while to get to know the members of a forum, but I do recognize a few here from other places. It's About Liberty seems to be a bit less strident than certain other conservative sites, and infinitely less so than any left-leaning site I may stumble into from time to time. So anyway, I promise I'll be more active here, just don't fire me, please. ::praying::
You're safe from this round of layoffs Daniel, thanks for being counted among the living. I recognize your handle from RedState. The comments section over there is about as good as it gets on any mainstream blogs, especially if one takes advantage of the diary option.
Aside from a strong bent toward constitutional conservatism and the natural outflow of "small L" libertarianism, you'll find that political correctness is dead as a doornail here. There are some among the genteel who may view that as stridency, and that's OK. Stridency is a subjective quality depending upon where one draws up the parameters. We just call it home, camaraderie, and a refusal to behave according to the Left's playbook.
Look forward to getting to know you.
Don't feel bad Daniel they seem to throw that warning out to all the " " newbie's and then some and welcome.
I to have a finite amount of time, but this is a great place for some what minded (?) Souls ::whoohoo::
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. . . So anyway, I promise I'll be more active here, just don't fire me, please. ::praying::
Chill dude. IDP ain't no Donnie Trump. He's more like Donnie Osmond. With more musical talent.
Ok I realize it was a long time ago, but Donnie Osmond had talent?
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Probably just one comment a month would be enough to keep your account active.
And like Pandora said, deleting inactive accounts isn't banning; it's more like pruning dead branches.
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Probably just one comment a month would be enough to keep your account active....
Hell, right now I'm just trimmin' the zeros! A numero uno is enough to keep you alive - just so I know there's a pulse at the other end, and not a spammer.
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Probably just one comment a month would be enough to keep your account active....
Hell, right now I'm just trimmin' the zeros! A numero uno is enough to keep you alive - just so I know there's a pulse at the other end, and not a spammer.
Damn Ido did you take your Blood pressure meds this morning.
::hysterical:: ::thumbsup::
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It is a cold cruel World out there in Forum Land. I have walked the desolate Tundra in search of a place to lay my weary head. The Trolls are thicker than Flea's. They can be a lot of fun, if taken with an aspirin. ::pokeineye::
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Hey Pat it is I!! ::newyear::
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Hey Pat it is I!! ::newyear::
Hey Tommy, seems like a nice place. ::bows::
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Nice to have both of you here. NO TROLLING ALLOWED IN THESE WATERS.
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Have fun in the forum.
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It is a cold cruel World out there in Forum Land. I have walked the desolate Tundra in search of a place to lay my weary head. The Trolls are thicker than Flea's. They can be a lot of fun, if taken with an aspirin. ::pokeineye::
Or a sledgehammer. ;)
We disagree with each other here just often enough to make it interesting. ::slapfight:: ;D
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Nice to have both of you here. NO TROLLING ALLOWED IN THESE WATERS.
::whoohoo::
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Oh goody,
fresh meat new blood.
As for trolling, this place uses super duper Troll B-Gone, so proglodytes are never an issue.
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Oh goody, fresh meat new blood.
As for trolling, this place uses super duper Troll B-Gone, so proglodytes are never an issue.
But, can't we muss them up a bit? ::slapfight:: ::pokeineye:: ::laserkill::
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It is a cold cruel World out there in Forum Land. I have walked the desolate Tundra in search of a place to lay my weary head. The Trolls are thicker than Flea's. They can be a lot of fun, if taken with an aspirin. ::pokeineye::
Or a sledgehammer. ;)
We disagree with each other here just often enough to make it interesting. ::slapfight:: ;D
And there is where the fun starts. ::rockethrow:: ::beertoast::
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Oh goody, fresh meat new blood.
As for trolling, this place uses super duper Troll B-Gone, so proglodytes are never an issue.
But, can't we muss them up a bit? ::slapfight:: ::pokeineye:: ::laserkill::
Like cat's with a new ball of yarn.
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Oh goody, fresh meat new blood.
As for trolling, this place uses super duper Troll B-Gone, so proglodytes are never an issue.
But, can't we muss them up a bit? ::slapfight:: ::pokeineye:: ::laserkill::
For as long as they last, you can have at 'em. Liberals can come here, but if they are committed Leftists, by definition they lie and twist themselves into a pretzel defending the indefensible. Those kind of people don't last too long. People with a liberal perspective who are genuinely interested in discussion and open to the truth are welcome - but you'll notice people like that are about as rare here as they are at large. That is to say, they pretty much don't exist.
If you go back and read some of the earlier posts in this long thread, you'll see that the core membership here are veterans of other forums, and have grown weary of dealing with liars bent on destroying the country. Kick them around a bit if it suits you. But don't plan on them being around too long.
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So it appears that ttomm and jpatrick know one another, and that ttomm invited jp here.
May I ask, ttomm, how did you happen upon us here, and how do you fellas know one another from before this?
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So it appears that tom and patrick know one another, and that ttomm invited jp here.
May I ask, tom, how did you happen upon us here, and how do you fellas know one another from before this?
Tommy and myself are castaways from conservativesforum.com. I am afraid we were a little to Conservative for them. To me, was like an old Hen House, the Hens ran the Coop. If you disagreed with there marshmallow attempt at Center Politics, you were isolated and expelled. Best thing that ever happened to me! ::whoohoo::
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We can all relate to that!
Welcome to our conservative refuge!
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We can all relate to that!
Welcome to our conservative refuge!
I'm an Ace, been kicked off 5 forums. two Liberal, one pretend conservative, and a Partridge and Juniper tree! ::bsmeter::
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Wow, jpatrick, that pretty much reads like the story of how this site came to be.
Well, glad you found us.
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Hey Pat it is I!! ::newyear::
About time.
This s the "Double Doubter", right?
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Re-read this new members!
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Damn. I thought Predator Don was back for a minute.
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Yeah...almost forgot about this thread...I miss Sectionhand's brand of self-deprecating humor and penchant for piercing brevity, he had a gift.