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Topics => Military News/Veterans => Topic started by: Glock32 on January 08, 2013, 10:38:18 PM

Title: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Glock32 on January 08, 2013, 10:38:18 PM
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/gen-mccrystal-applies-for-job-as-new-homeland-security-secretary/ (http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/gen-mccrystal-applies-for-job-as-new-homeland-security-secretary/)

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“I spent a career carrying typically either an M16 or an M4 Carbine. An M4 Carbine fires a .223 caliber round which is 5.56 mm at about 3000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed for that,” McChrystal explained. “That’s what our soldiers ought to carry. I personally don’t think there’s any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America.”

I guess he was satisfactorily chastened by Obama's rebuke a while back, and is trying to get back in the Regime's good graces. Bet he never gets that taste out of his mouth.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 08, 2013, 11:23:28 PM
How does a guy get all the way to the rank of General and the duty and oath required, and be so untethered to the constitution he serves and swore to defend?

Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2013, 06:48:47 AM
Because he is an elitist at heart and has no reason to hesitate in violating the contract between individuals and the government.

And...isn't this the same sh*t-for-brains attitude police have towards us and owning (let alone using!) any firearm?

There are a lot of enemies afoot out there, this is but just one high-ranking one, but this one I'd brow-beat in hearings and never vote for because of this admission.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Pandora on January 09, 2013, 08:36:34 AM
McChrystal is a good example of why I worry about where the loyalties of the military lie, even as I am told that at his level, they're more politician than military.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: trapeze on January 09, 2013, 10:39:21 AM
Face it, this isn't our country anymore.

Or it isn't the same country we grew up in. The SCOAMF has succeeded in fundamentally changing the country. It's full of takers at the citizen level and full of mastermind leftists at the governing level.

I have always tried to be an optimist but I'm not blind or stupid.

It's over. Prepare for darkness.

(And btw, prepare for silence, too. The SCOAMF will shut down the first amendment after the second is no longer a problem for him. It is only a matter of time before we are not permitted to communicate freely via the internet.)
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 09, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
...The SCOAMF has succeeded in fundamentally changing the country. It's full of takers at the citizen level and full of mastermind leftists at the governing level...

The takers have transformed the country. Obama has merely capitalized on a fundamental transformation in national character that had not yet manifested in policy before him.

He was the Leftist who was politically audacious enough to push us over the edge at all political risk. He recognized the transformation for what it was, and merely implemented a strategy to capitalize on it. He made open advocacy of hardcore Leftism and open scorn of American values safe for the Left. He was cynical enough to know that he could say one thing and do the exact opposite and fool more than half the voters.

Dark times indeed.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2013, 11:16:55 AM
It's why we should be openly gathering, carrying arms and drilling and honing our skills at the unit level...

What are they gonna do, come after us?  Isn't that fricken happening anyway?

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Glock32 on January 09, 2013, 11:28:19 AM
They're maneuvering us. The outrages come with increasing frequency because they're just trying to find one that causes somebody to snap. They desperately want the citizenry to initiate violence so they can then drop the hammer on us and claim the virtuousness of merely protecting public safety.

Instead they need to be maneuvered into revealing who they are first. I mean all of us already know who they are, but they need a Kent State moment pinned on them.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Libertas on January 09, 2013, 11:42:10 AM
Why am I thinking "I can start a war with them and make it look like they started it!"?   ::evilbat::
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: AlanS on January 09, 2013, 07:36:26 PM
An M4 Carbine fires a .223 caliber round which is 5.56 mm at about 3000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed for that,”

What a maroon. Does he HONESTLY believe this is the most dangerous round in the world?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZruHfeUcNys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZruHfeUcNys)
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Glock32 on January 09, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
I know I had that same thought. Surely he knows an ordinary hunting round is much more powerful. He's just obediently piling on in demonization of certain "militarily useful" rounds and platforms.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Libertas on January 10, 2013, 07:07:08 AM
It's a clear and obvious attack on the most widely popular AR round and meant to cast yet more demonization upon all scary black rifles regardless of caliber!
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Glock32 on January 10, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
I'm looking to get an upper receiver for my new AR chambered in 5.45x39. It's cheaper, a bit less prone to panic buying, and ballistically very similar to the 5.56. It's what the AK-74 is chambered in.

But back to the main subject of this thread, it's really a scary situation we are in here in the year 2013. All around us the noose is being slipped over our head, so it seems.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Libertas on January 10, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
Keep your powder dry.

Molôn Labé!
Title: Re: McChrystal: Time to think about bringing back the draft?
Post by: Pandora on January 14, 2013, 11:23:15 AM
... On CBS’s Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer, General Stanley A. McChrystal said national service would have a positive impact because it would “bind people to their nation” and “pull people together in shared experiences.” (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/13/mcchrystal-time-to-think-about-bringing-back-the-draft/)

THIS is what "binds people to their nation"?  I guess it is, if it's mandatory, as in "we all belong to the government".  Silly me, I thought it was borders, history, language, culture.

He goes on, though:

"McChrystal: I personally believe that national service is important for the nation, and that’s having all young people serve a term of national service. Certainly not all military. But I believe those things do have two effects. One, those things that bind people to their nation are important, and another thing is that we’re also a nation that doesn’t get to know each other too well. Someone from one part of an inner city never meets another person from an upper class neighborhood. We need some things that pull people together in shared experience. We need to be ten years after the fact when they are meeting somewhere, ‘Where did you serve?’ begins a connection that allows them to move on because we are getting too fragmented in my view."

I will get to know whom I choose in the manner I choose, thank you. 

And the "fragmentation" he decries is due to the government's policies, including legal immigration and illegal aliens, and encouraging non-assimilation.

"“Service member” should not apply only to those in uniform, but to us all.

    The concept of national service is not new, nor is it outdated. When America needs it, national service is the personal obligation of every American. And she needs it now.

    All of us bear an obligation to serve—an obligation that goes beyond paying taxes, voting, or adhering to the law. America is falling short in endeavors that occur far away from any battlefield: education, science, politics, the environment, and cultivating leadership, among others.

    Without a sustained focus on these foundations of our society, America’s long-term security and prosperity are at risk."

I pay taxes, vote and adhere to the law.  For now.  And I'm working on doing less of each.

As far as "serving" the collective, he can kiss my ass.  I owe nothing to anyone -- "give back" ::snort::  I serve my God, my family and friends and by my choice.  If I choose to do a favor for my neighbor or help jump-start a stranger's dead battery, that's all gravy.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 14, 2013, 11:29:52 AM

The term "state" applies to nations, ie. Switzerland is a state; We are the United States, we are a nation of many independent states we're not here to serve the nation.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Pandora on January 14, 2013, 11:32:21 AM
I guess good ole Stan agrees with Obongo's attempt to turn the anniversaries of 9/11 into a "National Day of Service".
Title: Re: McChrystal: Time to think about bringing back the draft?
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 14, 2013, 12:25:51 PM
... On CBS’s Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer, General Stanley A.
"McChrystal: I personally believe that national service is important for the nation, and that’s having all young people serve a term of national service. Certainly not all military. But I believe those things do have two effects. One, those things that bind people to their nation are important, and another thing is that we’re also a nation that doesn’t get to know each other too well. Someone from one part of an inner city never meets another person from an upper class neighborhood. We need some things that pull people together in shared experience. We need to be ten years after the fact when they are meeting somewhere, ‘Where did you serve?’ begins a connection that allows them to move on because we are getting too fragmented in my view."

(http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/13/mcchrystal-time-to-think-about-bringing-back-the-draft/)

We need our Hitler Youth Corp so we can ensure the right values are taught. We are getting too fragmented. We can't have different experiences and ideas. We must be one tribe, one Nation.  Its the same crap Hitler sold, and liberals are too ignorant of history to notice.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Glock32 on January 14, 2013, 01:27:50 PM
The Nazis had an umbrella term for all this sort of stuff. They called it Gleichschaltung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung).  Look it up, it's liberalism to a tee.
Title: Re: McChrystal wants to head DHS; also the .223 should be for soldiers only
Post by: Libertas on January 15, 2013, 07:12:39 AM
The Nazis had an umbrella term for all this sort of stuff. They called it Gleichschaltung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung).  Look it up, it's liberalism to a tee.

Yes, the Nazi playbook does appear to be the one most favored by Obama, we need not wonder anymore, this sick little socialist bastard is of the National Socialist strain, his actions prove it beyond any doubt.

You know who I am most pissed off at this morning?

If you guessed all the feckless useless play-nice go-along-to-get-along big-tent fvcking Republicans, you guessed right!

We would be in an infinitely better position had not these E-GOP bastards backslid into their big government ways!

God damn them to Hell for eternity for their treachery!