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Topics => Weather, Climate, & Natural Disasters => Topic started by: Libertas on August 22, 2012, 07:18:02 AM

Title: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Libertas on August 22, 2012, 07:18:02 AM: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/storm-system-could-send-hurricane-us-convention-191120022.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/storm-system-could-send-hurricane-us-convention-191120022.html)

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/images/at201294_ensmodel.gif (http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/images/at201294_ensmodel.gif)

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif)

Is God not happy with GOP? ::saywhat:: (I know I am not to thrilled with them!)
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 22, 2012, 09:25:08 AM: That wunderground gif looks like the squid
from 20,000 leagues under the sea.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: AlanS on August 22, 2012, 11:08:40 AM: Quote from: Charles Oakwood on August 22, 2012, 09:25:08 AM

That wunderground gif looks like the squid
from 20,000 leagues under the sea.

For hurricanes, I rely on the computer models.

(http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/data/images/at201209_model.gif)
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: Libertas on August 24, 2012, 11:14:29 AM: Looks to be tirning north (and shifting landfall more east) now.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif)
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: Libertas on August 26, 2012, 08:10:21 PM: Oh oh, Katrina survivors beware, Isaac looks to be firming up his aim.

http://www.weatherbellmodels.com/weather/atcf/AL09_current.png (http://www.weatherbellmodels.com/weather/atcf/AL09_current.png)

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif)
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: AlanS on August 27, 2012, 10:39:39 AM: Quote from: Libertas on August 26, 2012, 08:10:21 PM
Oh oh, Katrina survivors beware.........

Would that be the ones who waited for the government to save them?
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 27, 2012, 10:44:16 AM: Another Ø crisis.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: Pandora on August 27, 2012, 10:47:33 AM: Quote from: Charles Oakwood on August 27, 2012, 10:44:16 AM

Another Ø crisis.

Really. I'm very interested in seeing how much Obongo will help LA this time, in view of Jindal's governorship.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: trapeze on August 27, 2012, 11:06:16 AM: It keeps shifting west. It may not threaten NO at all when it makes landfall. No one knows. It is still not at hurricane strength as I write this...it needs to slow and strengthen considerably to be a real threat.

That said, NO is still below sea level last time I checked and even a wimpy hurricane would be a problem if it made a direct hit on the city.

But it's also moving fast and that would mean a short duration over the city if it did hit there.

Thankfully, there is a new mayor (yet another in a very, very long line of congenitally corrupt Landrieus) and a Republican governor this time around so I would expect a much better disaster management scenario. Plus a lot of stupid people died last time and quite of few of the surviving stupid people were shipped out of town and never came back. I also imagine that there are a lot more firearms in the hands of the citizens so that should be better this time around...i.e., the shop owners can better shoot the cops who attempt to loot the stores.

Police Looting In New Orleans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJRo8MbprOg#)
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: AlanS on August 27, 2012, 01:19:35 PM: Quote from: trapeze on August 27, 2012, 11:06:16 AM
I also imagine that there are a lot more firearms in the hands of the citizens so that should be better this time around...i.e., the shop owners can better shoot the cops who attempt to loot the stores.

I wonder if they'll try to confiscate them again? And if the storm misses NO, look for any mention of it to disappear quickly. The LSM wants another Katrina soooo badly.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2012, 02:54:01 PM: Quote from: AlanS on August 27, 2012, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: trapeze on August 27, 2012, 11:06:16 AM
I also imagine that there are a lot more firearms in the hands of the citizens so that should be better this time around...i.e., the shop owners can better shoot the cops who attempt to loot the stores.

I wonder if they'll try to confiscate them again? And if the storm misses NO, look for any mention of it to disappear quickly. The LSM wants another Katrina soooo badly.

I had that same thought, sick as hell it is, that's our media! A crisis for Duh Wun to manage magnificently (that's what they'll say, no matter how badly he eff's it up!)!

::gaah::
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa?
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 06:57:30 AM: Quote from: AlanS on August 27, 2012, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: trapeze on August 27, 2012, 11:06:16 AM
I also imagine that there are a lot more firearms in the hands of the citizens so that should be better this time around...i.e., the shop owners can better shoot the cops who attempt to loot the stores.

I wonder if they'll try to confiscate them again? And if the storm misses NO, look for any mention of it to disappear quickly. The LSM wants another Katrina soooo badly.

Looks like a near unanimous decision on New Orleans -

http://www.weatherbellmodels.com/weather/atcf/AL09_current.png (http://www.weatherbellmodels.com/weather/atcf/AL09_current.png)

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/AL0912W5.gif)

Tonight and into tomorrow could be rocky, hunker down dude!

Oh good, FEMA hoping it has learned something from Katrina....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-fema-using-lessons-from-katrina-to-combat-tropical-storm-isaac-20120827,0,3703112.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-fema-using-lessons-from-katrina-to-combat-tropical-storm-isaac-20120827,0,3703112.story)

They are going to talk to people more, dontchya feel safer or more loved now?

Isaac -

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/09L/flash-avn-long.html (http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/09L/flash-avn-long.html)
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: AlanS on August 28, 2012, 08:26:34 AM: Doesn't matter where it lands. The LSM will be disappointed with the lack of destruction. They'll put all of the drama they can into whatever damage they can find.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 28, 2012, 08:40:10 AM: An so an act of God almighty will suck the life out of the GOP convention.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 09:08:27 AM: Quote from: IronDioPriest on August 28, 2012, 08:40:10 AM
An so an act of God almighty will suck the life out of the GOP convention.

It's not God's Act that'll be doing it, it's the Grand Poobahs of the Republican Party, such as Krauthammer and Bill Crystal, who are advising a more somber tone because it won't do to be seen "celebrating" with death, doom and destruction on the horizon for some. Well, there are starving children in North Korea every day of the week as we speak, along with multiple child-murders in Chicago, so why not just don the sackcloth and ashes permanently.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:27:40 AM: This looks like a pretty weak storm to me. I'm not sure it will even be a hurricane when it makes landfall.

Media hardest hit.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Alphabet Soup on August 28, 2012, 11:19:13 AM: Quote from: trapeze on August 28, 2012, 10:27:40 AM
This looks like a pretty weak storm to me. I'm not sure it will even be a hurricane when it makes landfall.

Media hardest hit.

Yea, but not for lack of millions of sick dhimmis wishing for it.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 11:52:23 AM: What is Jindal doing? Seems to me he ought to be lambasting dummocraps on one hand and telling the convention to go full steam ahead as he has LA covered. WTF?! ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 02:07:49 PM: Local weather forecasts we're likely to get some "related moisture" from Isaac. No I have to f**king interpret weather-speak for "it may rain". Can no one speak plain English anymore?
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 28, 2012, 04:28:27 PM: Quote from: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
What is Jindal doing? Seems to me he ought to be lambasting dummocraps on one hand and telling the convention to go full steam ahead as he has LA covered. WTF?! ::whatgives::

He's slamming his ass off, It's just being supported. SURPRISE!!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/08/28/jindal-slams-obama-isaac-aid.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/08/28/jindal-slams-obama-isaac-aid.html)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-28/jindal-says-obama-s-storm-funding-falls-short-of-state-s-needs.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-28/jindal-says-obama-s-storm-funding-falls-short-of-state-s-needs.html)

Jindal Cries Wolf On Obama Administration Response To Hurricane Isaac
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/?jindal-cries...

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is already complaining that the Obama administration ... federal resources before Hurricane Isaac ... again looking at what the governor
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: AlanS on August 28, 2012, 06:03:23 PM: Quote from: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
What is Jindal doing? Seems to me he ought to be lambasting dummocraps on one hand and telling the convention to go full steam ahead as he has LA covered. WTF?! ::whatgives::

He's soaking up all the face time he can get. That is all.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 07:04:31 PM: Quote from: Charles Oakwood on August 28, 2012, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
What is Jindal doing? Seems to me he ought to be lambasting dummocraps on one hand and telling the convention to go full steam ahead as he has LA covered. WTF?! ::whatgives::

He's slamming his ass off, It's just being supported. SURPRISE!!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/08/28/jindal-slams-obama-isaac-aid.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/08/28/jindal-slams-obama-isaac-aid.html)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-28/jindal-says-obama-s-storm-funding-falls-short-of-state-s-needs.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-28/jindal-says-obama-s-storm-funding-falls-short-of-state-s-needs.html)

Jindal Cries Wolf On Obama Administration Response To Hurricane Isaac
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/?jindal-cries...

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is already complaining that the Obama administration ... federal resources before Hurricane Isaac ... again looking at what the governor

I'm not a fan of Governors going hat in hand to the Fed's, but the criticism in light of what Bush got heaped on him makes me enjoy the criticism. Criticize the big gubmit morons and Obama and then do all you can do for your own and pronounce "we did this in spite of Obama's foot-dragging", that at least has some PR appeal.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 07:06:21 PM: Quote from: AlanS on August 28, 2012, 06:03:23 PM
Quote from: Libertas on August 28, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
What is Jindal doing? Seems to me he ought to be lambasting dummocraps on one hand and telling the convention to go full steam ahead as he has LA covered. WTF?! ::whatgives::

He's soaking up all the face time he can get. That is all.

That "eye" is hitting now, still Cat 1 80 mph winds, MFM hysterics will no doubt be more damaging.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/09L/flash-avn-long.html (http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/09L/flash-avn-long.html)
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: charlesoakwood on August 28, 2012, 09:05:19 PM: If that thing had gone to Texas they'd
prolly say, thank you, Jesus.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2012, 10:39:04 PM: Damned if I didn't just see Shep Smith in a baseball cap on a N'Awlins street just hoping for disaster.

Don't that beat all ......
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: trapeze on August 29, 2012, 12:39:33 AM: This storm is a big nothing. It's an ordinary storm by just about any basis you care to name.

The media is apoplectic, of course.

Will there be damage? Yes. Sure. It would be a miracle if there wasn't anything significant. But...we're talking about just ordinary storm damage. Trees and power lines down. A few homes flooded out. That kind of thing. The levees are not going to be breached by this thing. The storm surge simply isn't high enough. If any levee fails it will be due to the usual Lousinana corruption hijinks where what was paid for was not delivered. But even with that low possibility scenario I don't think a levee is going to fail.

Will there be deaths? Probably. But only from stupidity. Anyone who takes reasonable precautions will be fine.

This storm is a dud for the media. They are hoping against hope that somehow a miracle (for them) will happen and the storm somehow becomes a CAT3 or CAT4 so that they have some nice visuals to put up against the RNC convention. But it's not going to happen.

I will say this: If it had been a real frickin' hurricane it is in the perfect path/location to take NO out for good.

But, no...this is a wimpy storm. The atmospheric pressure is too high at 969 millibars. It would need to be in the low 900's to qualify as anything even vaguely scary.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: AlanS on August 29, 2012, 07:42:13 AM: Quote from: Charles Oakwood on August 28, 2012, 09:05:19 PM

If that thing had gone to Texas they'd
prolly say, thank you, Jesus.

If it makes it to north LA, they'll be saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Isaac Heading for Tampa? Nope, New Orleans!
Post by: Libertas on August 30, 2012, 11:38:34 AM: Whoa, damn break warning, 50-50 chance...if it's that iffy... ::)

http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Tangipahoa-Parish-orders-immediate-evacuation-after-potential-levee-breach-167994886.html (http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Tangipahoa-Parish-orders-immediate-evacuation-after-potential-levee-breach-167994886.html)