It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Larry H on March 24, 2011, 09:44:05 PM
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ELECTIONS
Organize for a conservative agenda, a Conservative Party.
People are hypnotized by their rhetorical phrases and do not think. Presenting the negative consequences of their policies brings either immediate denial or a stupefying silence.
New, independent voices may be able to bring the discussions outside the circle of democrat and republican slogans and rhetoric.
Be realistic, “Mr. Perfect” and “None-of-the-Above” are not on the ballot.
ELECTION and VOTER REFORMS:
To promote local control of local elections by resident adult voter citizens these reforms can be implemented.
(1) Presenting your photo ID for inspection and matching at the precinct site on one, single day of voting for the able-bodied voter for local, city, county, state and national elections.
(2) Indelible purple ink finger tip (if sans fingers, in another place) as proof of voting in that election, once and only once.
(3) If you can’t vote (in that election) then you can’t contribute --- money, gifts, in-kind donations of goods and services, child labor, non-residents, outside interests, corporations, political action committees (PACs). Money is property, not free speech! Supreme Court Case needed.
(4) Members of secret organizations may not run for public office. (There are several groups that should be listed.)
(5A) Restrict permanent absentee ballots to people deployed away in the military and for the medically or physically infirm voter.
(5B) Single absentee ballots to be issued at Registrar of Voters office, upon presentation of ones photo ID and taking and collecting a photo and thumbprint (or a second means of ID) of the voter.
(6) Purge county voter rolls/roster of non-voters and non-residents every 4 to 6 years.
(7) Arrest and prosecute fraudulent registrations for perjury and fraudulent voters and fraudulent IDs.
(8) Thirty days residency to qualify to vote in the new precinct.
Provisional ballot status for people who moved to another local precinct.
(9) Promote English language literacy.
2-2-1008 Larry H.
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Our electoral system is heavily biased toward two parties.
Third parties with any significant support guarantee victory to the party that they are least aligned with.
The solution is to organize and effect the greatest influence over one of the two parties. The Democrats have done this to the point of excluding all but the furthest leftwing elements. That's actually a losing strategy for them since they are purposefully making themselves more and more fringe.
Creating a conservative party that would compete with the Republican party for conservative votes is a losing strategy.
Or do you disagree?
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ELECTIONS
Organize for a conservative agenda, a Conservative Party.
People are hypnotized by their rhetorical phrases and do not think. Presenting the negative consequences of their policies brings either immediate denial or a stupefying silence.
New, independent voices may be able to bring the discussions outside the circle of democrat and republican slogans and rhetoric.
Be realistic, “Mr. Perfect” and “None-of-the-Above” are not on the ballot.
ELECTION and VOTER REFORMS:
To promote local control of local elections by resident adult voter citizens these reforms can be implemented.
(4) Members of secret organizations may not run for public office. (There are several groups that should be listed.)
I hope you're not including Freemasons . If so , I wouldn't be allowed to run for office ( as if I wanted to ) ... Even George Washington would have been inelligible . Please clarify this for me .
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The time and place to press for Conservative values and policies, a Conservative agenda is before and in the Republican primary elections.
Are the Freemasons a secret society?
If yes, then the candidate would need to withdraw and suspend their membership therein.
A further topic: the rights responsibilities of citizenship, civics education, and patriotism.
First on my agenda is the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on the 14th Amendment leading to anchor baby citizenship. I believe the case was wrongly decided. Will it take a Constitutional Amendment to clarify the issue or a Conservative Republican president to nominate several Conservative Justices to that court (to replace Ruth B. Ginzberg, et. al.)?
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The time and place to press for Conservative values and policies, a Conservative agenda is before and in the Republican primary elections.
Are the Freemasons a secret society?
If yes, then the candidate would need to withdraw and suspend their membership therein.
A further topic: the rights responsibilities of citizenship, civics education, and patriotism.
First on my agenda is the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on the 14th Amendment leading to anchor baby citizenship. I believe the case was wrongly decided. Will it take a Constitutional Amendment to clarify the issue or a Conservative Republican president to nominate several Conservative Justices to that court (to replace Ruth B. Ginzberg, et. al.)?
Not on board with that; it would infringe on the right of free association.
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Are the Freemasons a secret society?
If yes, then the candidate would need to withdraw and suspend their membership therein.
It's not secret if you're a member . Some pretty fine Americans are and have been members . You might want to re-think that one . Withdrawl or suspension is out of the question !
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I agree. Equating Freemasons to the more nefarious outfits out there that pose a real threat is not something I will sanction, and to do so would be to condemn most of our illustrious Founders as something they were not.
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Although I happen to be a Freemason ( York Rite ) I don't think anyone on this site could accuse my posts of having been conspiratorial ... obscene maybe ... crass probably ... but cospiratorial ? Never !
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Yeah, no sweat SH!
Say, what time does the meeting start?
Just kidding! ;D
Or am I? ::speechless::
::stirpot::
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The time and place to press for Conservative values and policies, a Conservative agenda is before and in the Republican primary elections.
Are the Freemasons a secret society?
If yes, then the candidate would need to withdraw and suspend their membership therein. A further topic: the rights responsibilities of citizenship, civics education, and patriotism.
First on my agenda is the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on the 14th Amendment leading to anchor baby citizenship. I believe the case was wrongly decided. Will it take a Constitutional Amendment to clarify the issue or a Conservative Republican president to nominate several Conservative Justices to that court (to replace Ruth B. Ginzberg, et. al.)?
Sorry Larry that bit is nonsense.If you were talking subversive I would listen. Secret would mean that they could not even belong to the Knights of Columbus and other such groups.
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Say, what time does the meeting start?
Just kidding! ;D
1900 HRS and don't forget your sheet !
Just kidding to ! ;D ::stirpot::
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::hysterical::
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(4) Members of secret organizations may not run for public office.
Can I ask the obvious question? Then I'll hang up and listen off the air.
How would anyone know if someone running for public office was a member of a secret organization?
::pokeineye:: ::beertoast:: ::stirpot:: ::exitstageleft::
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(4) Members of secret organizations may not run for public office.
Can I ask the obvious question? Then I'll hang up and listen off the air.
How would anyone know if someone running for public office was a member of a secret organization?
::pokeineye:: ::beertoast:: ::stirpot:: ::exitstageleft::
::rolllaughing::
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The right of free association is as fundamental as the right to free speech and the right to keep and bear arms. Plus we're at a time when those of us who seek to restore the Republic might damn well need a few secret organizations!
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Are you a member of a secret society, Larry?
Because if you are then you can't post here.
It's one of our secret rules.
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isn't the Fed a secret organization? totally dark?
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The astronomy writer Guy Ottewell has written a pamphlet called "Approval Voting". In his system you can cast one vote for each candidate running in an election. If you vote for every candidate, then your votes cancel each other out and it's exactly the same as not voting.
Say there's an election between a Democrat, a RINO Republican, and a Libertarian. You certainly don't want the Democrat to win, and find it extremely distasteful to vote for the RINO. But if enough Republicans vote for the Libertarian, the Democrat will win. Under our current system, you would have to pick one or stay home.
With approval voting, you can vote once for each candidate. So you can cast a vote for the RINO and a vote for the Libertarian. This completely eliminates the "throwing away your vote" argument. You can walk away from the voting booth with your head held high, knowing that you did the best you could and didn't violate your principles.
Likewise, a liberal could vote for the Democrat and the Communist (but I repeat myself). ;D
Here's the link to buy the pamphlet. (http://www.universalworkshop.com/ARVO.htm)
Here's the link to read the full text online. (http://www.universalworkshop.com/ARVOfull.htm)
I think it's a great idea, so it doesn't stand a chance of being implemented. I also like the purple ink as well.
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OK, moving on. ::smalldeadhorse::
(5A) Restrict permanent absentee ballots to people deployed away in the military and for the medically or physically infirm voter.
I was an absentee voter by choice until my state went all mail-in balloting. The potential for fraud is too great and the proclivity of dhimmicrats to cheating is too prevalent. At this point I would gladly give up the mail-in ballot in order to regain even a sliver of confidence that elections in my state aren't actively being rigged.
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Yeah, how often have we heard "a bag of uncounted ballots was found in such-and-such precinct"? And they're magically always in favor of Democrats!
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Absentee and mail-in ballots are massive opportunities for fraud. I'm sick and tired of the notion that we have to bend over backwards to make it "easier" to vote.
If you can't get off your ass and go to the polling place on Election Day, then too damn bad. I don't want you voting.
Absentee ballots should be strictly restricted to people who physically can't go to the polling place for some legitimate reason, like a handicap or overseas on military duty.
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The whole movement to "get out the vote" is for the benefit of liberalism, because the sort of people who aren't self-motivated and informed enough to vote without being prodded are a natural constituency group for the Dhims.
"Rock the Vote", "Motor Voter", and so on. It's all designed to draw in people who really shouldn't be voting. It's an affront to the sacrifices made so that we can actually have elections, for voting to be reduced to some trendy pop culture phenomenon no different from texting your choice to American Idol.
Another thing that needs to be eliminated is provisional balloting and last minute registration. If you can't take it upon yourself to be properly registered in your local district in advance of an election, then too damn bad.
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If you can't take it upon yourself to be properly registered in your local district in advance of an election, then too damn bad.
::thumbsup::
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The whole movement to "get out the vote" is for the benefit of liberalism, because the sort of people who aren't self-motivated and informed enough to vote without being prodded are a natural constituency group for the Dhims.
Through organized labor and outfits like ACORN the liberal / lefties still resort to the time honored practice of buying votes . The method varies but the result is the same .