It's About Liberty: A Conservative Forum
Topics => Politics/Legislation/Elections => Topic started by: Glock32 on July 07, 2013, 03:48:32 PM
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This echos many of the same discussions we've had here, about how people are sick of being told that the GOP turd at least has a few tasty sprinkles on it.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/02/Study-Republicans-Leaving-Party-Are-Tired-of-Two-Evils-Argument (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/02/Study-Republicans-Leaving-Party-Are-Tired-of-Two-Evils-Argument)
A new study by the Frontier Lab, a conservative market research group, found that Republican voters who leave the party do so because they are are tired of being told to vote Republican as the "lesser of two evils." The study, "Switching Behavior: Modeling disaffiliation from the Republican brand," is published on the group's website and applies scientific methods of qualitative research to the GOP's most urgent problem.
Unlike the official Republican National Committee (RNC) "autopsy," which was prepared by consultants and political figures using familiar campaign-season methods such as focus groups and polls, the Frontier Lab study applied a specific methodology from market research, Behavioral Event Modeling (BEM), to understand the specific decisions of a sample of 97 Republicans who had chosen to leave the party in recent years.
Anne Sorock, author of the Frontier Lab study, writes that the RNC autopsy failed to provide "meaningful insights about how the Republican Party’s adherents are interacting with the brand as it stands." In an interview with Breitbart News, she expanded on her criticism of the RNC's self-examination, saying that the RNC's decision to use political consultants was "a perfect example of everything they are doing wrong."
The Frontier Lab study includes both conservative and moderate Republicans, and identified four key events that prompted individuals to "disaffiliate" from the party. One was the rejection of the "lesser of two evils" argument--the argument that voters had to support a bad Republican because the Democratic candidate would invariably be worse. Both conservatives and moderates are tired of the "two evils" argument, Sorock said.
A second event was a loss of hope in the Republican Party--a sentiment connected to the feeling that the party could no longer deliver on its promises because leaders had abandoned their principles. "The lack of perceived leadership by principle was strongly connected to this loss of hope," Sorock writes, noting that the GOP could reverse that perception through better communication and through actions more consistent with principles.
A third reason that Republicans had decided to detach themselves from the party label was "affiliation with a new community"--primarily the Tea Party, Sorock says, which offers the kind of "camaraderie" that the GOP itself no longer provides its members. Talk radio was another form of community, albeit one facilitated through electronic and social media, that provided what the Republican Party itself failed to offer.
Finally, a fourth reason Republicans identified for leaving was "perceived betrayal by the GOP establishment." Specifically, Sorock notes, respondents said that when party leaders attacked a candidate they supported, they experienced the attack as a personal slight and felt disconnected from the GOP itself as a result. Sorock told Breitbart News that Republicans "across the ideological spectrum" described similar experiences.
The good news for Republicans, Sorock says, is that disaffiliation can be reversed if Republicans strive to create a sense of community around shared principles and abandon the "two evils" argument--without attacking weak candidates. The ongoing "disaffiliation from the Republican label is not only, or even primarily, a matter of philosophical differences," she writes. Better leadership, not new policies, may hold the key.
H/T to Moonbattery: http://moonbattery.com/?p=32815 (http://moonbattery.com/?p=32815)
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It would be interesting to know who commissioned this study.
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It's on the money for my money anyway.
No way Mytch and Carrot Top are willing to entertain those observations.
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The good news for Republicans, Sorock says, is that disaffiliation can be reversed if Republicans strive to create a sense of community around shared principles and abandon the "two evils" argument--without attacking weak candidates. The ongoing "disaffiliation from the Republican label is not only, or even primarily, a matter of philosophical differences," she writes. Better leadership, not new policies, may hold the key.
Huh? In order to have "community around shared principles", there needs to be principles worth sharing. The Republicans don't have them, not ones I share anyway; the only candidates they attack ARE the ones strong in the principles I *do* share. And while they need better leadership, they also need new policies as well -- "immigration reform" my bee-hind.
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I think she is referring to the Republican Party Platform which is much better than leadership is capable of living up to.
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Excuse me, I think she is referring to the platform as it was before it was reformed by the pusillanimity.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2000_RNC_Platform.htm (http://www.ontheissues.org/2000_RNC_Platform.htm)
OnTheIssues.org excerpts: (click on issues for details)
Abortion
Ban abortion with Constitutional amendment.
Alternatives like adoption, instead of punitive action.
Civil Rights
Strong support for traditional definition of marriage.
Let Boy Scouts exercise free speech (ok to ban gays).
Women exempt from combat; “candid analysis” of military gays.
Crime
More victims rights and harsher penalties for certain crimes.
Death penalty is an effective deterrent.
Drugs
Clinton surrendered Drug War; cry out for drug-free schools.
Aggressively pursue drug kingpins; include death penalty.
Education
Limit role of federal government in education.
Increase access to higher education with savings accounts.
Strongly support voluntary student-initiated prayer.
Achievement is basis for access to college.
Energy & Oil
Provide tax incentives for energy production.
Environment
Encourage market-based solutions to environmental problems.
Families & Children
Support abstinence and fatherhood.
Reduce child welfare caseloads & encourage adoption.
Foreign Policy
Look to Latin American countries as key partners.
Strengthen ties to Asia and promote democracy there.
NATO has shared responsibility for peacekeeping.
Help Africa with private sector and charitable investment.
Reform U.N. to end abuse, unfairness, and abortion funding.
Will not allow China to attack Taiwan.
Free Trade
U.S. should position itself to dominate trade.
Promote free trade with America setting the standards.
Government Reform
Reduce inefficient government, reward results.
Reform politics to encourage participation.
Federal government should not interfere with states’ rights.
Gun Control
Will protect right to bear arms.
Health Care
A reformed Medicare will give seniors choice, flexibility.
Give individuals tools to manage their own health needs.
Allow customization of insurance, support health centers.
Lawyers should not hold physicians hostage.
Homeland Security
Affirm traditional military culture&rebuild morale (no gays).
U.S. needs comprehensive missile defense system.
Eliminate as many nuclear weapons as possible.
Restore health of defense industry; peace thru strength.
Immigration
Reform & toughen immigration system to emphasize family.
Focus immigration on needed skills.
Jobs
Recognize that people depend on land for livelihood.
Small business deserves better treatment from government.
Principles & Values
Bush will nominate conservative judges only.
A distinctly American internationalism for the 21st century.
Social Security
Workers will have choice to invest their payroll taxes.
Tax Reform
Cut taxes to stimulate economy and help families.
Tax cuts & low interest rates lead to home ownership.
Repeal death tax & give tax break to care for elderly.
Technology
Encourage technology with funds for R & D, tax reform.
School, libraries should ban porn from their computers.
War & Peace
Promote peace, reduce threat of war, protect Israel.
Contribute in Balkans, but let NATO run it.
Welfare & Poverty
Tax reform will enable more poor to own a home.
Faith-based charities should help end child poverty
If they had stuck to this platform with their hearts and minds they would be respected.
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It's still a pretty weak platform and even then they cannot live up to it.
All in all the study is pretty damning, but Pubbie leadership will only view it as a PR issue, they foolishly think better marketing will be their savior, it will never occur to them that their actions speak louder than their useless words...and hired guns like The Butthead will only reinforce that idiotic meme in order to keep cashing party checks.
Eff 'em!
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It's still a pretty weak platform and even then they cannot live up to it.
All in all the study is pretty damning, but Pubbie leadership will only view it as a PR issue, they foolishly think better marketing will be their savior, it will never occur to them that their actions speak louder than their useless words...and hired guns like The Butthead will only reinforce that idiotic meme in order to keep cashing party checks.
Eff 'em!
It sucks, in my opinion, and right, Eff 'em.
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It's still a pretty weak platform and even then they cannot live up to it.
All in all the study is pretty damning, but Pubbie leadership will only view it as a PR issue, they foolishly think better marketing will be their savior, it will never occur to them that their actions speak louder than their useless words...and hired guns like The Butthead will only reinforce that idiotic meme in order to keep cashing party checks.
Eff 'em!
It sucks, in my opinion, and right, Eff 'em.
Yes, it sucks, I cannot even go into what all is missing...and it is pointless anyway...
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It could be a coup. Paul and Cruz have ponied up hopefully it will give others courage.
Walker and Perry are causing pressure and giving direction. Of course our pretty cheerleaders Bachmann and Palin help move attention to the right. It just needs a little more to come together. People are watching; 2014 will be a seminal event.
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Somebody paid good money for a study for something we could have told them YEARS ago? ::thinking::
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Somebody paid good money for a study for something we could have told them YEARS ago? ::thinking::
Oh, so much ^^ that ^^.
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We've been screaming at them for years...if not decades...and they still won't "get it"!
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[Sarah Palin is] a joke. I mean, I just can’t take her seriously. … We’ve just a had guy elected Virginia governor who’s probably the model for the future of the Republican Party, Bob McDonnell, pretty serious guy, pragmatic, calm, kind of boring.
David Brooks, Republican.
Spokesman Denies Report That Virginia’s Corrupt Republican Governor Will Resign (http://theothermccain.com/2013/07/07/spokesman-denies-report-that-virginias-corrupt-republican-governor-will-resign/)
Yes, sport. Corruption is the model for your type. ::rockets::
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[Sarah Palin is] a joke. I mean, I just can’t take her seriously. … We’ve just a had guy elected Virginia governor who’s probably the model for the future of the Republican Party, Bob McDonnell, pretty serious guy, pragmatic, calm, kind of boring.
David Brooks, Republican.
Spokesman Denies Report That Virginia’s Corrupt Republican Governor Will Resign (http://theothermccain.com/2013/07/07/spokesman-denies-report-that-virginias-corrupt-republican-governor-will-resign/)
Yes, sport. Corruption is the model for your type. ::rockets::
They don't see that as corruption, they see that as entitled...special...petty people are driving a good man out...blah blah blah...and yeah Palin's corruption...?...I guess she was corrupted by the Constitution...the Declaration...the Founders...now that we cannot tolerate!
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::gaah::
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That illustrates a big part of the problem, considering Brooks a Republican, that is.
In WWII what did the French call persons claiming to be part of the resistance but
actually spying for the Nazi's? Subversive, I think.
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That illustrates a big part of the problem, considering Brooks a Republican, that is.
In WWII what did the French call persons claiming to be part of the resistance but
actually spying for the Nazi's? Subversive, I think.
Vichy France... Pétain in the asses...call them traitors. I guess they called them "collaborationnistes ".
They all dangle from streetlights the same...
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I see what you did there, Libertas.
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Since they liken themselves as the enlightened courtiers of King Louis, perhaps they too can have a meeting with Monsieur Guillotin.
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::guillotine::
Next!