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Topics => Science, Technology, & Medicine => Topic started by: BMG on July 28, 2012, 10:00:49 AM

Title: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: BMG on July 28, 2012, 10:00:49 AM
LINK (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-07-28/uganda-ebola-outbreak/56553600/1)

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The deadly Ebola virus has killed 14 people in western Uganda this month, Ugandan health officials said on Saturday, ending weeks of speculation about the cause of a strange disease that had many people fleeing their homes.

The worst of the worst right there - that is one scary pathogen.

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on July 28, 2012, 10:17:28 AM
People fled their homes .... and went where?  Wherever the next outbreak occurs.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 28, 2012, 11:28:46 AM

Why Obama is sending troops to Africa – a closer look - Mon, Oct 31, 2011 (http://news.yahoo.com/why-obama-sending-troops-africa-closer-look-173400327.html)

In the current US AFRICOM operation, 100 Special Operations troops will travel with Ugandan People’s Defense Force (UPDF) soldiers trailing LRA leader Joseph Kony.
US to 'share lessons learned'

And the Russian Times reports:


Thousands more US troops to be sent to Africa
June 13, 2012 (http://rt.com/usa/news/us-troops-africa-army-597/)

The Army Times confirms that the US military gave the go-ahead for the mass deployment last month and that roughly 3,000 soldiers will soon be sent overseas, with more troops expected to be dispatched during the duration of the program. Maj. Gen. David R. Hogg, head of US Army Africa, says the initiative is part of a “regionally aligned force concept” that will allow American troops to forge relationships across Africa, where the US has not concentrated its soldiers among civilians to the same degree as other continents.

Thank goodness Russia has a free press or we would never have a clue what is going on in the good ol USA.

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2012, 06:39:09 PM
Not

Our

Concern

(Outside of quarrantining people coming here from there!)

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 29, 2012, 08:15:56 PM

What about our 3K military personnel?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on July 29, 2012, 08:37:28 PM

What about our 3K military personnel?


I dunno.  Seems reckless doesn't it?  I wouldn't want to go without full NBC gear!  But like Stymie or REMFs give a rip.  As usual the troops get screwed, and in this case screwed could mean dead.  Totally unacceptable.  This has disaster written all over it.  I can see grieving family members suing for wrongful death.  Obama & Co spent ZERO time thinking this over, all they saw were black people and political points.  We have ZERO point being there.  Let WHO handle it.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: charlesoakwood on July 29, 2012, 08:48:17 PM

Sort a like that Clancy novel, he wants
to bring the virus to America.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Weisshaupt on July 29, 2012, 09:29:30 PM

Sort a like that Clancy novel, he wants
to bring the virus to America.

Contagion is probably the most likely method if they wish to kill a lot of us, but Ebola might not be the right one. Typically you will see symptoms within 10 days - longest observed incubation was 21 days.   Of course a genetic variant may have been developed that takes longer, giving it ample time to to spread before word gets out that there is an outbreak.  Granted, you could get a 12 Monkeys scenario where someone deliberately contracts the disease and then takes a 10-21 day trip through as many airports and destinations as possible. Even so, you can only really spread it by direct contact.  An airborne contagion will spread far more quickly. 
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: John Florida on July 29, 2012, 09:29:59 PM
People fled their homes .... and went where?  Wherever the next outbreak occurs.

 What say we rescue some and bring them here.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on July 29, 2012, 09:48:16 PM
People fled their homes .... and went where?  Wherever the next outbreak occurs.

 What say we rescue some and bring them here.

Yessireebob, because that always works out so well.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: John Florida on July 30, 2012, 08:44:45 AM
People fled their homes .... and went where?  Wherever the next outbreak occurs.

 What say we rescue some and bring them here.

Yessireebob, because that always works out so well.



  If you think about it every illegal that corsses into the country ups the odds for something like this for us.
Title: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Pandora on July 30, 2014, 05:00:38 AM
Leaders and government officials from Liberia as well as the other nations affected by Ebola—Guinea, Sierra Leone and Nigeria are expected to attend the D.C. summit. (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/ebola-white-house-raises-specter-of-govt-closure-during-d-c-africa-summit/)

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... The Obama administration is urging federal employees to stay home during the summit of African leaders being held in Washington, D.C. next week and to monitor local news for announcement of a possible “closing of the federal government” —ostensibly over traffic issues.

... “Agencies should consider encouraging employees who can be spared from their duties to request to adjust their work schedules,” Katherine Archuleta, the director of the Office of Personnel Management, wrote Friday in a memo.”

…”Ms. Archuleta wrote that for now the federal government would remain open Monday through Thursday next week, but she advised federal employees to monitor local news outlets for announcements about potential street closings, disruptions to public transportation or a closing of the federal government.”


At the same time the administration said the federal government is taking no “additional precautions” to deal with the potential spread of the Ebola virus by those attending the summit.

... The White House downplaying of the Ebola threat contradicted State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki who said Monday about the summit, “…we’re taking every precaution…”
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Libertas on July 30, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
No, let them go to work.
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Libertas on July 31, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
CDC Level 3 Travel Alert

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/07/20140731_ebola1_0.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-31/cdc-issues-level-3-travel-alert-largest-ebola-outbreak-history-spreads (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-31/cdc-issues-level-3-travel-alert-largest-ebola-outbreak-history-spreads)

Yet, didn't I hear somewhere that a couple infected types got OK to travel here for treatment?

Alert ain't worth squat but propaganda value if we're not quarantining incoming!   ::facepalm::
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: John Florida on July 31, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
 The two that were allowed to travel home were American Aid workers.
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: trapeze on July 31, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
The two that were allowed to travel home were American Aid workers.

It is said that they are associated with Franklin Graham's organization, Samaritan's Purse. Further, one of them, a doctor, had access to a single dose of an experimental treatment for ebola but elected to give it to the other American, a nurse. Both are said to be in stable but grave condition. Also said to be traveling in a specially designed plane to prevent disease transmission. Also said to be going into immediate isolation/quarantine upon arrival.

They will probably not survive, unfortunately.
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2014, 07:36:10 AM
Thanks for the info, presscorpse in this country sucks!
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Pandora on August 01, 2014, 09:47:32 AM
Thanks for the info, presscorpse in this country sucks!

Yes, it does!  UK Daily Mail has the story .... lemme see if I can find it ........  yep, here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712477/Dr-Kent-Brantly-battling-Ebola-passes-potentially-life-saving-experimental-serum-American-colleague-it.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712477/Dr-Kent-Brantly-battling-Ebola-passes-potentially-life-saving-experimental-serum-American-colleague-it.html)
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Thanks for the info, presscorpse in this country sucks!

Yes, it does!  UK Daily Mail has the story .... lemme see if I can find it ........  yep, here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712477/Dr-Kent-Brantly-battling-Ebola-passes-potentially-life-saving-experimental-serum-American-colleague-it.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712477/Dr-Kent-Brantly-battling-Ebola-passes-potentially-life-saving-experimental-serum-American-colleague-it.html)

 ::hat-tip::
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Pandora on August 01, 2014, 01:28:44 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/ebola-and-d-c-africa-summit-official-protocols-in-place-for-visitors-with-health-related-issues/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/ebola-and-d-c-africa-summit-official-protocols-in-place-for-visitors-with-health-related-issues/)

Unh hunh ........

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The statement, even though not specific, is the closest to a statement of preparedness made by the Obama administration. Various spokesmen have sought to downplay the potential for Ebola to be brought to the summit via West African government officials and members of their entourages.

The statement by the unnamed State Department official contradicts State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf’s flat declaration earlier Thursday at the daily briefing that the administration has no concern about Ebola being brought to the summit:

So why are they allowing "visitors with health-related issues" in here?
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: trapeze on August 02, 2014, 12:55:51 AM
So why are they allowing "visitors with health-related issues" in here?

Because it isn't "fair" that Africa has ebola and we don't. Ditto all of the infections that are flooding in from Central American cesspools. It's part of the transformational change that we signed up for.
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 02, 2014, 05:57:19 AM
We're all gonna die!
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: AlanS on August 02, 2014, 08:58:28 AM
Have no fear! The government will keep us safe. ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Glock32 on August 02, 2014, 11:03:29 AM
Wait until all these exotic diseases intersect with one of the Left's protected classes: the HIV positive.

The ability to mitigate HIV has increased significantly over the past 20 years.  This is largely due to new anti-viral drugs, but also because 1st World countries have low levels of opportunistic pathogens of the sort that would prove deadly to people with a compromised immune system.

These exotic diseases don't even have to be as deadly or virulent as Ebola to be a real risk to people with HIV.  This is just another example of how the Left has no real coherent ideology other than to tear down the existing structures of civilization.  The components of their social and political coalition have little in the way of natural common ground, and quite often they seek things directly at odds with each other.
Title: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 03, 2014, 10:08:41 AM
If Michael Crichton were still alive, he would have written a novel about this.
Maybe he did.

I sometimes wander into conspiracy theory.

Is it coincidental that two new TV shows are about pandemics?

Last Ship and The Strain
Title: Re: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: trapeze on August 03, 2014, 11:17:06 PM
If Michael Crichton were still alive, he would have written a novel about this.
Maybe he did.

I sometimes wander into conspiracy theory.

Is it coincidental that two new TV shows are about pandemics?

Last Ship and The Strain

Does "The Andromeda Strain" count? It wasn't exactly the same thing because it was about a microbe brought back from a probe of space dust or something. Plus it was nearly 100% lethal within mere minutes of exposure which is a bit implausible...that would make it more like poisonous gas than a pathogen.

Anyway, this outbreak is getting interesting what with the potential spread to other countries beginning to look more and more like a reality. The news this evening was that some elderly female from Sierra Leone got off a plane in the UK and keeled over, was taken to the hospital where she died quickly. No confirmation that it was ebola but the evidence is quite damning that it is. They supposedly have the plane quarantined which I hope means that they aren't letting the passengers off or letting them otherwise come into contact with the native UK population. Again, not really very well reported so kind of hard to say.

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The plane carrying the woman came from Freetown in Sierra Leone – a country with the highest number of victims from the disease.

It stopped at Banjul in The Gambia before landing in Gatwick at 8.15am on Saturday after a five-hour flight.

Public Health England tried to allay fears of an Ebola ­breakout in Britain.

It said the woman showed no ­symptoms during the flight.

When you are thinking about pandemics or epidemics you need to look at "vectors." That's the name they give to people who are infectious and come into contact with others who then become infected and spread the disease. Global air travel makes vector transmission of highly infectious diseases several orders of magnitude easier than it was during past pandemics like, say, the Spanish flu. So, how many people came into physical contact with this person during the five hour flight? And how many people came into contact with them during the five hour flight?

Sample scenario: Infected person is touched by flight attendant. Flight attendant then touches X number of other passengers?

Or this: Infected person goes to plane restroom and sweats all over everything. Or barfs. Or whatever. And then X number of passengers visit the same restroom.

Or this: Infected person visits a restroom in departure city's airport. The X number of persons visit the same restroom and then depart for places unknown on other flights.

How many people got off the plane in Gambia for other final destinations who might have contracted the disease?

I am also guessing that third world airlines (like these, for instance) are not particularly fastidious in just about any area you care to imagine including cleanliness and record keeping.

It is said that the disease has an incubation period (time of infection to sign of symptoms) of anywhere between 2 days and three weeks. It is also said that only a person who is showing signs of infection is capable of infecting others. They also claim that this is not (yet) and airborne infections, that it may only be spread by contact with bodily fluids. I suspect though, that it would spread like crazy through a population of intravenous drug users and/or the sexually promiscuous even without symptoms showing. And my guess is as good as anyone's at this point because this is a relatively little understood disease.

One more thing: It is also said that a person will die within about five days (tops) of showing signs of infection. Anyone really believe that the elderly Sierra Leone woman didn't show signs of infection during that five hour flight? Can you even imagine having to sit next to her for five hours and then learning that she dropped dead from ebola within minutes of walking off the plane?

But an airliner cabin seems to be an especially convenient place for such a disease to spread. I suppose we will know soon enough.
Title: Re: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: Glock32 on August 04, 2014, 01:44:18 AM
I guess entire societies are willing to risk incurable, deadly disease because that's better than being called a racist.

The proper course of action here is to close all travel to or from the affected countries, at a minimum.
Title: Re: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 04, 2014, 06:00:03 AM
Thanks, Trap.
It's been, probably, 30 years since I read Andromeda Strain.
Good book; may read it again.

Once again, my conspiracy glands are working.
There is no attempt to protect us from any sort of pandemic.

The Southern Invasion with all the diseases they're bringing and the failure to quarantine the countries where Ebola is spreading leaves us wide open.

It's like giving infected blankets to the Indians.

Perhaps there is something to the Georgia Guidestones as a plan of action rather than a philosophy.

The world population should be reduced to 500 million.
80%

Title: Re: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2014, 06:42:22 AM
I guess entire societies are willing to risk incurable, deadly disease because that's better than being called a racist.

The proper course of action here is to close all travel to or from the affected countries, at a minimum.

Yeah, the progs won't go for that, certainly not openly...but whooptidoo anyway, the southern border is so pourous thousands of Ebola victims could be thrust over the border...by the time O'Bongo realizes it it would be too late, the disease would be going like wildfire, and then once word breaks out the panic across the nation would be massive, society would implode.
Title: Re: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
Thanks, Trap.
It's been, probably, 30 years since I read Andromeda Strain.
Good book; may read it again.

Once again, my conspiracy glands are working.
There is no attempt to protect us from any sort of pandemic.

The Southern Invasion with all the diseases they're bringing and the failure to quarantine the countries where Ebola is spreading leaves us wide open.

It's like giving infected blankets to the Indians.

Perhaps there is something to the Georgia Guidestones as a plan of action rather than a philosophy.

The world population should be reduced to 500 million.
80%

Those things give me a shiver down my spine, something nefarious and Fascist about it, like there are clowns out there preparing to implement its genocide...who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
Title: Re: WH: no additional precautions against Ebola for African summit in DC
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2014, 07:35:17 AM
We're all gonna die!

...and only some of us (they!) deserve it!

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 04, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
Via INfowars (http://www.infowars.com/the-bizarre-growth-of-the-ebola-outbreak-this-graph-says-it-all/)

I have had a auto google search running on "quarantine" for some time... the outbreak in Africa keeps dying out and then -- restarting.  I surmised at the time that they may be using Africa as a testing ground for various pathogens they have worked out in the lab..  If you look at this chart - its odd


(http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Ebola_chart.png)

But my take away is different from the author's...
 it isn't just since April that it starts and then dies.. its been going on for almost TWO YEARS.
Almost like they are deliberately RESTARTING IT.

I have said for a long time that a bio-weapon and mass depopulation was their only chance of conquering America.  It is beginning to look more and more like that is what is being attempted, and that we are no longer looking at "probing" behavior but the end game attack.   School starts here in a couple of weeks as well, and your kids will mostly likely be in class with the immigrants  - or at least int he same school.  How is that for a "vector" ? Oh, we quarantined your KID today.. you better come down too.. 

My kids might very well end up being truant for the first couple of weeks. Not that I guess it matters. If they are really attacking us this way,  we have already lost this war.
I just hope I am around long enough to watch the Libtards bleeding  out in the streets screaming its all Bush's Fault ( Which by the way is the offical Dem talking point memo  line again with regards to immigration..you can't go wrong with a classic)

Also keep in mind all they need to do is generate the required panic to make most report for vaccination or a  forced quarantine in Building B with the Gas showers.  The actual pathogen spread need not be that dangerous, and any number of food additives or sprays can be used to simulate the symptoms if you don't want to spread one at all . (toxins in Toledo water supply huh? )  Or we are simply dealing with an indiscriminate Bio-weapon based on Ebola that they feel confident they can "control"  - in that it dies out after a predictable period.. just like you see in the graph....





Title: Re: Ebola, a Michael Crichton novel
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
Perhaps I am in a lower risk group - I am an "OINK" (One Income No Kids), they'll have to come at me another way...hopefully one I see coming...   ;)

ETA -

As to conspiracy theories, the PTBs really aren't making it easy to dismiss them, are they?

Lets look -

Among the significant revelations are that individuals from nations currently suffering from the world’s largest Ebola outbreak have been caught attempting to sneak across the porous U.S. border into the interior of the United States. At least 71 individuals from the three nations affected by the current Ebola outbreak have either turned themselves in or been caught attempting to illegally enter the U.S. by U.S. authorities between January 2014 and July 2014.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/08/03/Leaked-CBP-Report-Shows-Entire-World-Exploiting-Open-US-Border (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/08/03/Leaked-CBP-Report-Shows-Entire-World-Exploiting-Open-US-Border)

Staff tell of fears as jet from Africa is quarantined after the death of passenger who was 'sweating and vomiting' before she collapsed

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051)

Taken in context of Weisshaupt's rundown...   ::saywhat::

Sure, nothing to see here, move along.

/

 ::exitstageleft::
Title: The True Story of Ebola in Reston, Virginia.
Post by: AmericanPatriot on August 04, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
This was in Canada Free Press.
 Quite interesting

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php...9c9c-291118117 (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php...9c9c-291118117)

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In October 1989 people in the community of Reston, Virginia went about their daily lives not realizing that a serious crisis was developing right in their back yards that would not be entirely resolved until March 1990. It was a serious calamity that could have wiped out the entire population. This dire emergency was described twenty years ago by Richard Preston in his non-fiction book, “The Hot Zone.” The “hot zone” refers to an “area that contains lethal, infectious organisms” also dubbed “hot agent,” an “extremely lethal virus, potentially airborne.” (Richard Preston, The Hot Zone, Random House, New York, 1994, p. 296)

Rest at the link
Title: Re: The True Story of Ebola in Reston, Virginia.
Post by: IronDioPriest on August 04, 2014, 05:00:40 PM
I read "The Hot Zone", many years ago. Scary stuff.
Title: Re: The True Story of Ebola in Reston, Virginia.
Post by: Libertas on August 04, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
l was trying to remember the name of that book, thanks for the reminder.

IIRC didn't both HIV and Ebola originate with human contact with monkeys?  People should leave wild monkeys alone or monkeys need to be wiped out, well too late now...
Title: Re: The True Story of Ebola in Reston, Virginia.
Post by: Pandora on August 04, 2014, 10:29:51 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/black-market-demand-for-monkey-meat-could-see-ebola-spread-to-europe/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/black-market-demand-for-monkey-meat-could-see-ebola-spread-to-europe/)

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A BBC investigation previously discovered the markets at Ridley Road, London sold giant rats among other smuggled meats.

It is known as a prime example of an area where black market meats are sold and is replicated all over the country.

Dr Yunes Teinaz, a former environment health official, warned the bush meat is sold “all over the country” and is a “huge” health risk.

Unh hunh.  Import the savages and you've imported their savage ways.  I have no doubt some of this sht has found its way into this country as well.

The benefits of the vibrancy of di-VER-sity.
Title: Re: The True Story of Ebola in Reston, Virginia.
Post by: Glock32 on August 05, 2014, 05:28:14 AM
The trouble is that so far Western populations have proven themselves more willing to accept this than to risk being called a racist.  They are quite literally more terrified of being called a name than of losing their entire birthright to an imported savagery and the disease, filth, and squalor that comes with it.

What can you do with such a population?  Nature knows what to do with it: consign it to the ash heap of history.
Title: Re: The True Story of Ebola in Reston, Virginia.
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2014, 06:43:09 AM
Light the fire.
Title: The Ebola Epidemic: Still Happening Despite Media Moving On To Other Things
Post by: trapeze on September 01, 2014, 02:10:02 AM
I decided to perform a search of news articles just to see what's happening with the outbreak. Perhaps not surprisingly, a lot of the articles that comes up in the search are from the Daily Mail...

Ebola epidemic spreads to FIFTH West African country as case of deadly virus is reported in Senegal - but quarantine is lifted in slum area of Liberian capital (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738473/Ebola-epidemic-spreads-FIFTH-West-African-country-case-deadly-virus-reported-Senegal-quarantine-lifted-slum-area-Liberian-capital.html)

WHO: Senegal Ebola case 'a top priority emergency' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2738983/WHO-Senegal-Ebola-case-priority-emergency.html)

Dogs EATING corpses of Ebola victims in Liberia (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737684/Dogs-EATING-corpses-Ebola-victims-Liberia-health-teams-pile-bodies-shallow-grave-middle-night-locals-refused-permission-use-land.html)

Ebola virus is 'mutating rapidly', experts warn (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2737635/Ebola-virus-mutating-rapidly-limit-effective-future-vaccines-experts-warn.html)

And others...

Ebola epidemic decimating health workers in Guinea (http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-epidemic-decimating-health-workers-guinea-155519167.html)

Ebola Epidemic: Man Hospitalized With Suspected Ebola In Sweden (http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-epidemic-man-hospitalized-suspected-ebola-sweden-1674868)

Health workers' death toll mounts in W.Africa as Ebola spreads (http://yourhealth.asiaone.com/content/health-workers-death-toll-mounts-wafrica-ebola-spreads)

These are all recent articles...published today or within the last 48 hours.
Title: Re: The Ebola Epidemic: Still Happening Despite Media Moving On To Other Things
Post by: richb on September 01, 2014, 01:51:53 PM
Despite what they say,  the lamestream media doesn't give a sh*t about Africa. 
Title: Re: The Ebola Epidemic: Still Happening Despite Media Moving On To Other Things
Post by: Libertas on September 01, 2014, 05:13:57 PM
Despite what they say,  the lamestream media doesn't give a sh*t about Africa.

Oh, they care, only for the exploitation and the opportunity to blame the West, the Caucasian and the unprogressive.
Title: Re: The Ebola Epidemic: Still Happening Despite Media Moving On To Other Things
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2014, 06:40:47 AM
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/09/02/cdc-director-ebola-outbreak-is-spiraling-out-of-control/ (http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/09/02/cdc-director-ebola-outbreak-is-spiraling-out-of-control/)

Ebola spiraling out of control, swell.

And I don't get this...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/09/02/ebola-outbreaks-unrelated-in-west-africa-and-democratic-republic-of-congo/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/09/02/ebola-outbreaks-unrelated-in-west-africa-and-democratic-republic-of-congo/)

...supposed to be happy since this outbreak is unrelated to the first?  It's still an outbreak, right?  Forgive me if I don't celebrate.

 ::facepalm::

Title: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 10, 2014, 07:46:49 AM
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/09/20140909_ebola2_0.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/ebola-outbreak-doubles-3-weeks-who-warns-conventional-means-control-not-working (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/ebola-outbreak-doubles-3-weeks-who-warns-conventional-means-control-not-working)

There is not way this ends well, the resources are overwhelmed even with Western help, their stupid cultural BS is allowing the disease to spread...

I say we quarantine Africa and blockade all communication with the continent and ban all contact.

OK, now libiots, go ahead call me a racist if it makes you feeeel better, but if you don't have a better idea then STFD and STFU!
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Glock32 on September 10, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
I think we should quarantine Africa even without an ebola epidemic.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: benb61 on September 10, 2014, 12:44:16 PM
Lets send as many "African-Americans" as possible back there first if their allegiance is with Africa first.

Those who wish to act like Americans can stay.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 10, 2014, 12:59:54 PM
Lets send as many "African-Americans" as possible back there first if their allegiance is with Africa first.

Those who wish to act like Americans can stay.

Been there done, er tried, that!

American Colonization Society (http://personal.denison.edu/~waite/liberia/history/acs.htm)

Only way I see if you go that route is forced expulsion.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 10, 2014, 11:52:04 PM
While we are at it can we also do some nuke testing in certain parts of Syria and Iraq? Those clods want to behave like savages so we should just say, "wish granted" and bomb them back to the stone age and be done with it.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 12, 2014, 07:43:23 AM
I'm good with that.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 16, 2014, 07:20:12 AM
Stupid! Stupid!! STUPID!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/world/africa/obama-to-announce-expanded-effort-against-ebola.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/world/africa/obama-to-announce-expanded-effort-against-ebola.html?_r=1)

What a fracking retard!!!  This is a no win can only lose scenario!  Stay the frack out!  Where the frack is Congress?  Oh, I forgot, they're still on their knees...

Son of a  ::pullhair::
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 21, 2014, 01:03:38 AM
I am reading Richard Preston's "The Hot Zone" for the first time.

Very sobering stuff it is.

Here is an excerpt from the opening portion of the book as it describes the progress of the disease from when it first begins to show symptoms (about a week from infection) to the point of death. The victim is a French expat, Charles Monet, living in Kenya. Some of the narrative is speculative and some is based on eye witness accounts. It is all too real, though, and the victim didn't survive...

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The headache begins, typically, on the seventh day after exposure to the agent. On the seventh day after his New Year’s visit to Kitum Cave— January 8, 1980— Monet felt a throbbing pain behind his eyeballs. He decided to stay home from work and went to bed in his bungalow. The headache grew worse. His eyeballs ached, and then his temples began to ache, the pain seeming to circle around inside his head. It would not go away with aspirin, and then he got a severe backache. His housekeeper, Johnnie, was still on her Christmas vacation, and he had recently hired a temporary housekeeper. She tried to take care of him, but she really didn’t know what to do. Then, on the third day after his headache started, he became nauseated, spiked a fever, and began to vomit. His vomiting grew intense and turned into dry heaves. At the same time, he became strangely passive. His face lost all appearance of life and set itself into an expressionless mask, with the eyeballs fixed, paralytic, and staring. The eyelids were slightly droopy, which gave him a peculiar appearance, as if his eyes were popping out of his head and half-closed at the same time. The eyeballs themselves seemed almost frozen in their sockets, and they turned bright red. The skin of his face turned yellowish, with brilliant starlike red speckles. He began to look like a zombie. His appearance frightened the temporary housekeeper. She didn’t understand the transformation in this man. His personality changed. He became sullen, resentful, angry, and his memory seemed to be blown away. He was not delirious. He could answer questions, although he didn’t seem to know exactly where he was.

When Monet failed to show up for work, his colleagues began to wonder about him, and eventually they went to his bungalow to see if he was all right. The black-and-white crow sat on the roof and watched them as they went inside. They looked at Monet and decided that he needed to get to a hospital. Since he was very unwell and no longer able to drive a car, one of his co-workers drove him to a private hospital in the city of Kisumu, on the shore of Lake Victoria. The doctors at the hospital examined Monet, and could not come up with any explanation for what had happened to his eyes or his faceor his mind. Thinking that he might have some kind of bacterial infection, they gave him injections of antibiotics, but the antibiotics had no effect on his illness.

The doctors thought he should go to Nairobi Hospital, which is the best private hospital in East Africa. The telephone system hardly worked, and it did not seem worth the effort to call any doctors to tell them that he was coming. He could still walk, and he seemed able to travel by himself. He had money; he understood he had to get to Nairobi. They put him in a taxi to the airport, and he boarded a Kenya Airways flight. A hot virus from the rain forest lives within a twenty-four-hour plane flight from every city on earth. All of the earth’s cities are connected by a web of airline routes. The web is a network. Once a virus hits the net, it can shoot anywhere in a day— Paris, Tokyo, New York, Los Angeles, wherever planes fly. Charles Monet and the life form inside him had entered the net.

The plane was a Fokker Friendship with propellers, a commuter aircraft that seats thirty-five people. It started its engines and took off over Lake Victoria, blue and sparkling, dotted with the dugout canoes of fishermen. The Friendship turned and banked eastward, climbing over green hills quilted with tea plantations and small farms. The commuter flights that drone across Africa are often jammed with people, and this flight was probably full. The plane climbed over belts of forest and clusters of round huts and villages with tin roofs. The land suddenly dropped away, going down in shelves and ravines, and changed in color from green to brown. The plane was crossing the Eastern Rift Valley. The passengers looked out the windows at the place where the human species was born. They saw specks of huts clustered inside circles of thornbush, with cattle trails radiating from the huts. The propellers moaned, and the Friendship passed through cloud streets, lines of puffy Rift clouds, and began to bounce and sway. Monet became airsick.

The seats are narrow and jammed together on these commuter airplanes, and you notice everything that is happening inside the cabin. The cabin is tightly closed, and the air recirculates. If there are any smells in the air, you perceive them. You would not have been able to ignore the man who was getting sick. He hunches over in his seat. There is something wrong with him, but you can’t tell exactly what is happening.

He is holding an airsickness bag over his mouth. He coughs a deep cough and regurgitates something into the bag. The bag swells up. Perhaps he glances around, and then you see that his lips are smeared with something slippery and red, mixed with black specks, as if he has been chewing coffee grounds. His eyes are the color of rubies, and his face is an expressionless mass of bruises. The red spots, which a few days before had started out as starlike speckles, have expanded and merged into huge, spontaneous purple shadows: his whole head is turning black-and-blue. The muscles of his face droop. The connective tissue in his face is dissolving, and his face appears to hang from the underlying bone, as if the face is detaching itself from the skull. He opens his mouth and gasps into the bag, and the vomiting goes on endlessly. It will not stop, and he keeps bringing up liquid, long after his stomach should have been empty. The airsickness bag fills up to the brim with a substance known as the vomito negro, or the black vomit. The black vomit is not really black; it is a speckled liquid of two colors, black and red, a stew of tarry granules mixed with fresh red arterial blood. It is hemorrhage, and it smells like a slaughterhouse. The black vomit is loaded with virus. It is highly infective, lethally hot, a liquid that would scare the daylights out of a military biohazard specialist. The smell of the vomito negro fills the passenger cabin. The airsickness bag is brimming with black vomit, so Monetcloses the bag and rolls up the top. The bag is bulging and softening, threatening to leak, and he hands it to a flight attendant.

When a hot virus multiplies in a host, it can saturate the body with virus particles, from the brain to the skin. The military experts then say that the virus has undergone “extreme amplification.” This is not something like the common cold. By the time an extreme amplification peaks out, an eyedropper of the victim’s blood may contain a hundred million particles of virus. During this process, the body is partly transformed into virus particles. In other words, the host is possessed by a life form that is attempting to convert the host into itself. The transformation is not entirely successful, however, and the end result is a great deal of liquefying flesh mixed with virus, a kind of biological accident. Extreme amplification has occurred in Monet, and the sign of it is the black vomit.

He appears to be holding himself rigid, as if any movement would rupture something inside him. His blood is clotting up— his bloodstream is throwing clots, and the clots are lodging everywhere. His liver, kidneys, lungs, hands, feet, and head are becoming jammed with blood clots. In effect, he is having a stroke through thewhole body. Clots are accumulating in his intestinal muscles, cutting off the blood supply to his intestines. The intestinal muscles are beginning to die, and the intestines are starting to go slack. He doesn’t seem to be fully aware of pain any longer because the blood clots lodged in his brain are cutting off blood flow. His personality is being wiped away by brain damage. This is called depersonalization, in which the liveliness and details of character seem to vanish. He is becoming an automaton. Tiny spots in his brain are liquefying. The higher functions of consciousness are winking out first, leaving the deeper parts of the brain stem (the primitive rat brain, the lizard brain) still alive and functioning. It could be said that the who of Charles Monet has already died while the what of Charles Monet continues to live.

The vomiting attack appears to have broken some blood vessels in his nose— he gets a nosebleed. The blood comes from both nostrils, a shining, clotless, arterial liquid that drips over his teeth and chin. This blood keeps running, because the clotting factors have been used up. A flight attendant gives him some paper towels, which he uses to stop up his nose, but the blood still won’t coagulate, and the towels soak through.

When a man is getting sick in an airline seat next to you, you may not want to embarrass him by calling attention to the problem. You say to yourself that this man will be all right. Maybe he doesn’t travel well in airplanes. He is airsick, the poor man, and people do get nosebleeds in airplanes, the air is so dry and thin  …   and you ask him, weakly, if there is anything you can do to help. He does not answer, or he mumbles words you can’t understand, so you try to ignore it, but the flight seems to go on forever. Perhaps the flight attendants offer to help him. But victims of this type of hot virus have changes in behavior that can render them incapable of responding to an offer of help. They become hostile, and don’t want to be touched. They don’t want to speak. They answer questions with grunts or monosyllables. They can’t seem to find words. They can tell you their name, but they can’t tell you the day of the week or explain what has happened to them.

The Friendship drones through the clouds, following the length of the Rift Valley, and Monet slumps back in the seat, and now he seems to be dozing.… Perhaps some of the passengers wonder if he is dead. No, no, he is not dead. He is moving. His red eyes are open and moving around a little bit.

It is late afternoon, and the sun is falling down into the hills to the west of the Rift Valley, throwing blades of light in all directions, as if the sun is cracking up on the equator. The Friendship makes a gentle turn and crosses the eastern scarp of the Rift. The land rises higher and changes in color from brown to green. The Ngong Hills appear under the right wing, and the plane, now descending, passes over parkland dotted with zebra and giraffes. A minute later, it lands at Jomo Kenyatta International Airport. Monet stirs himself. He is still able to walk. He stands up, dripping. He stumbles down the gangway onto the tarmac. His shirt is a red mess. He carries no luggage. His only luggage is internal, and it is a load of amplified virus. Monet has been transformed into a human virus bomb. He walks slowly into the airport terminal and through the building and out to a curving road where taxis are always parked. The taxi drivers surround him—“ Taxi?” “Taxi?”

“Nairobi  …   Hospital,” he mumbles.

One of them helps him into a car. Nairobi taxi drivers like to chat with their fares, and this one probably asks if he is sick. The answer should be obvious. Monet’s stomach feels a little better now. It is heavy, dull, and bloated, as if he has eaten a meal, rather than empty and torn and on fire.

The taxi pulls out onto the Uhuru Highway and heads into Nairobi. It goes through grassland studded with honey-acacia trees, and it goes past factories, and then it comes to a rotary and enters the bustling street life of Nairobi. Crowds are milling on the shoulders of the road, women walking on beaten dirt pathways, men loitering, children riding bicycles, a man repairing shoes by the side of the road, a tractor pulling a wagonload of charcoal. The taxi turns left onto the Ngong Road and goes past a city park and up a hill, past lines of tall blue-gum trees, and it turns up a narrow road and goes past a guard gate and enters the grounds of Nairobi Hospital. It parks at a taxi stand beside a flower kiosk. A sign by a glass door says CASUALTY DEPT. Monet hands the driver some money and gets out of the taxi and opens the glass door and goes over to the reception window and indicates that he is very ill. He has difficulty speaking.

The man is bleeding, and they will admit him in just a moment. He must wait until a doctor can be called, but the doctor will see him immediately, not to worry. He sits down in the waiting room.

It is a small room lined with padded benches. The clear, strong, ancient light of East Africa pours through a row of windows and falls across a table heaped with soiledmagazines, and makes rectangles on a pebbled gray floor that has a drain in the center. The room smells vaguely of woodsmoke and sweat, and it is jammed with bleary-eyed people, Africans and Europeans sitting shoulder to shoulder. There is always someone in Casualty who has a cut and is waiting for stitches. People wait patiently, holding a washcloth against the scalp, holding a bandage pressed around a finger, and you may see a spot of blood on the cloth. So Charles Monet is sitting on a bench in Casualty, and he does not look very much different from anyone else in the room, except for his bruised, expressionless face and his red eyes. A sign on the wall warns patients to watch out for purse thieves, and another sign says:

PLEASE MAINTAIN SILENCE. YOUR COOPERATION WILL BE APPRECIATED. NOTE: THIS IS A CASUALTY DEPARTMENT. EMERGENCY CASES WILL BE TAKEN IN PRIORITY. YOU MAY BE REQUIRED TO WAIT FOR SUCH CASES BEFORE RECEIVING ATTENTION.

Monet maintains silence, waiting to receive attention. Suddenly he goes into the last phase— the human virus bomb explodes. Military biohazard specialists have ways of describing this occurrence. They say that the victim has “crashed and bled out.” Or more politely they say that the victim has “gone down.”

He becomes dizzy and utterly weak, and his spine goes limp and nerveless and he loses all sense of balance. The room is turning around and around. He is going into shock. He leans over, head on his knees, and brings up an incredible quantity of blood from his stomach and spills it onto the floor with a gasping groan. He loses consciousness and pitches forward onto the floor. The only sound is a choking in his throat as he continues to vomit blood and black matter while unconscious. Then comes a sound like a bedsheet being torn in half, which is the sound of his bowels opening and venting blood from the anus. The blood is mixed with intestinal lining. He has sloughed his gut. The linings of his intestines have come off and are being expelled along with huge amounts of blood. Monet has crashed and is bleeding out.

The other patients in the waiting room stand up and move away from the man on the floor, calling for a doctor. Pools of blood spread out around him, enlarging rapidly. Having destroyed its host, the hot agent is now coming out of every orifice, and is “trying” to find a new host.

Nurses and aides came running, pushing a gurney along with them, and they lifted Charles Monet onto the gurney and wheeled him into the intensive care unit at Nairobi Hospital. A call for a doctor went out over the loudspeakers: a patient was bleeding in the ICU. A young doctor named Shem Musoke ran to the scene. Dr. Musoke was widely considered to be one of the best young physicians at the hospital, an energetic man with a warm sense of humor, who worked long hours and had a good feel for emergencies. He found Monet lying on the gurney. He had no idea what was wrong with the man, except that he was obviously having some kind of massive hemorrhage. There was no time to try to figure out what had caused it. He was having difficulty breathing— and then his breathing stopped. He had inhaled blood and had had a breathing arrest.

Dr. Musoke felt for a pulse. It was weak and sluggish. A nurse ran and fetched a laryngoscope, a tube that can be used to open a person’s airway. Dr. Musoke ripped open Monet’s shirt so that he could observe any rise and fall of the chest, and he stood at the head of the gurney and bent over Monet’s face until he was looking directly into his eyes, upside down.

Monet stared redly at Dr. Musoke, but there was no movement in the eyeballs, and the pupils were dilated. Brain damage: nobody home. His nose was bloody and his mouth was bloody. Dr. Musoke tilted the patient’s head back to open the airway so that he could insert the laryngoscope. He was not wearing rubber gloves. He ran his finger around the patient’s tongue to clear the mouth of debris, sweeping out mucus and blood. His hands became greasy with black curd. The patient smelled of vomit and blood, but this was nothing new to Dr. Musoke, and he concentrated on his work. He leaned down until his face was a few inches away from Monet’s face, and he looked into Monet’s mouth in order to judge the position of the scope. Then he slid the scope over Monet’s tongue and pushed the tongue out of the way so that he could see down the airway past the epiglottis, a dark hole leading inward to the lungs. He pushed the scope into the hole, peering into the instrument. Monet suddenly jerked and thrashed.

Monet vomited.

The black vomit blew up around the scope and out of Monet’s mouth. Black-and-red fluid spewed into the air, showering down over Dr. Musoke. It struck him in the eyes. It splattered over his white coat and down his chest, marking him with strings of red slime dappled with dark flecks. It landed in his mouth.

He repositioned his patient’s head and swept the blood out of the patient’s mouth with his fingers. The blood had covered Dr. Musoke’s hands, wrists, and forearms. It had gone everywhere— all over the gurney, all over Dr. Musoke, all over the floor. The nurses in the intensive care unit couldn’t believe their eyes. Dr. Musoke peered down into the airway and pushed the scope deeper into the lungs. He saw that the airways were bloody.

Air rasped into the man’s lungs. The patient had begun to breathe again.

The patient was apparently in shock from loss of blood. He had lost so much blood that he was becoming dehydrated. The blood had come out of practically every opening in his body. There wasn’t enough blood left to maintain circulation, so his heartbeat was very sluggish, and his blood pressure was dropping toward zero. He needed a blood transfusion.

A nurse brought a bag of whole blood. Dr. Musoke hooked the bag on a stand and inserted the needle into the patient’s arm. There was something wrong with the patient’s veins; his blood poured out around the needle. Dr. Musoke tried again, putting the needle into another place in the patient’s arm and probing for the vein. Failure. More blood poured out. At every place in the patient’s arm where he stuck the needle, the vein broke apart like cooked macaroni and spilled blood, and the blood ran from the punctures down the patient’s arm and wouldn’t coagulate. Clearly his blood was not normal. Dr. Musoke abandoned his efforts to give his patient a blood transfusion for fear that the patient would bleed to death out of the small hole in his arm. The patient continued to bleed from the bowels, and these hemorrhages were now as black as pitch.

Monet’s coma deepened, and he never regained consciousness. He died in the intensive care unit in the early hours of the morning. Dr. Musoke stayed by his bedside the whole time. They had no idea what had killed him. It was an unexplained death. They opened him up for an autopsy and found that his kidneys were destroyed and that his liver was destroyed. It was yellow, and parts of it had liquefied— it looked like the liver of a cadaver. It was as if Monet had become a corpse before his death. Sloughing of the gut, in which the intestinal lining comes off, is another effect that is ordinarily seen in a corpse that is several days old. What, exactly, was the cause of death? It was impossible to say because there were too many possible causes. Everything had gone wrong inside this man, absolutely everything, any one of which could have been fatal: the clotting, the massive hemorrhages, the liver turned into pudding, the intestines full of blood. Lacking words, categories, or language to describe what had happened, they called it, finally, a case of “fulminating liver failure.” His remains were placed in a waterproof bag and, according to one account, were buried locally. When I visited Nairobi, years later, no one remembered where the grave was.

Nine days after the patient vomited into Dr. Shem Musoke’s eyes and mouth, Musoke developed an aching sensation in his back...

The doctor became very ill but somehow survived.

Not saying that this monster will ever come to our shores or that, if it did, it would spread here as it has in Africa BUT...

...if it does then we will be facing a worse crisis than Katrina except it's potentially everywhere and we have total idiots running the show.

Top Men (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoy4_h7Pb3M#)
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: AlanS on September 21, 2014, 06:57:21 AM
Quite a read. Downright scary when you think about who we have in charge.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 21, 2014, 06:15:52 PM
Some more from the book:

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Ebola Zaire attacks every organ and tissue in the human body except skeletal muscle and bone. It is a perfect parasite because it transforms virtually every part of the body into a digested slime of virus particles. The seven mysterious proteins that, assembled together, make up the Ebola-virus particle, work as a relentless machine, a molecular shark, and they consume the body as the virus makes copies of itself. Small blood clots begin to appear in the bloodstream, and the blood thickens and slows, and the clots begin to stick to the walls of blood vessels. This is known as pavementing, because the clots fit together in a mosaic. The mosaic thickens and throws more clots, and the clots drift through the bloodstream into the small capillaries, where they get stuck. This shuts off the blood supply to various parts of the body, causing dead spots to appear in the brain, liver, kidneys, lungs, intestines, testicles, breast tissue (of men as well as women), and all through the skin. The skin develops red spots, called petechiae, which are hemorrhages under the skin. Ebola attacks connective tissue with particular ferocity; it multiplies in collagen, the chief constituent protein of the tissue that holds the organs together. (The seven Ebola proteins somehow chew up the body’s structural proteins.) In this way, collagen in the body turns to mush, and the underlayers of the skin die and liquefy. The skin bubbles up into a sea of tiny white blisters mixed with red spots known as a maculopapular rash. This rash has been likened to tapioca pudding. Spontaneous rips appear in the skin, and hemorrhagic blood pours from the rips. The red spots on the skin grow and spread and merge to become huge, spontaneous bruises, and the skin goes soft and pulpy, and can tear off if it is touched with any kind of pressure. Your mouth bleeds, and you bleed around your teeth, and you may have hemorrhages from the salivary glands— literally every opening in the body bleeds, no matter how small. The surface of the tongue turns brilliant red and then sloughs off, and is swallowed or spat out. It is said to be extraordinarily painful to lose the surface of one’s tongue. The tongue’s skin may be torn off during rushes of the black vomit. The back of the throat and the lining of the windpipe may also slough off, and the dead tissue slides down the windpipe into the lungs or is coughed up with sputum. Your heart bleeds into itself; the heart muscle softens and has hemorrhages into its chambers, and blood squeezes out of the heart muscle as the heart beats, and it floods the chest cavity. The brain becomes clogged with dead blood cells, a condition known as sludging of the brain. Ebola attacks the lining of the eyeball, and the eyeballs may fill up with blood: you may go blind. Droplets of blood stand out on the eyelids: you may weep blood. The blood runs from your eyes down your cheeks and refuses to coagulate. You may have a hemispherical stroke, in which one whole side of the body is paralyzed, which is invariably fatal in a case of Ebola. Even while the body’s internal organs are becoming plugged with coagulated blood, the blood that streams out of the body cannot clot; it resembles whey being squeezed out of curds. The blood has been stripped of its clotting factors. If you put the runny Ebola blood in a test tube and look at it, you see that the blood is destroyed. Its red cells are broken and dead. The blood looks as if it has been buzzed in an electric blender.

Ebola kills a great deal of tissue while the host is still alive. It triggers a creeping, spotty necrosis that spreads through all the internal organs. The liver bulges up and turns yellow, begins to liquefy, and then it cracks apart. The cracks run across the liver and deep inside it, and the liver completely dies and goes putrid. The kidneys become jammed with blood clots and dead cells, and cease functioning. As the kidneys fail, the blood becomes toxic with urine. The spleen turns into a single huge, hard blood clot the size of a baseball. The intestines may fill up completely with blood. The lining of the gut dies and sloughs off into the bowels and is defecated along with large amounts of blood. In men, the testicles bloat up and turn black-and-blue, the semen goes hot with Ebola, and the nipples may bleed. In women, the labia turn blue, livid, and protrusive, and there may be massive vaginal bleeding. The virus is a catastrophe for a pregnant woman: the child is aborted spontaneously and is usually infected with Ebola virus, born with red eyes and a bloody nose.

Ebola destroys the brain more thoroughly than does Marburg, and Ebola victims often go into epileptic convulsions during the final stage. The convulsions are generalized grand mal seizures— the whole body twitches and shakes, the arms and legs thrash around, and the eyes, sometimes bloody, roll up into the head. The tremors and convulsions of the patient may smear or splatter blood around. Possibly this epileptic splashing of blood is one of Ebola’s strategies for success— it makes the victim go into a flurry of seizures as he dies, spreading blood all over the place, thus giving the virus a chance to jump to a new host— a kind of transmission through smearing.

Ebola (and Marburg) multiplies so rapidly and powerfully that the body’s infected cells become crystal-like blocks of packed virus particles. These crystals are broods of virus getting ready to hatch from the cell. They are known as bricks. The bricks, or crystals, first appear near the center of the cell and then migrate toward the surface. As a crystal reaches a cell wall, it disintegrates into hundreds of individual virus particles, and the broodlings push through the cell wall like hair and float away in the bloodstream of the host. The hatched Ebola particles cling to cells everywhere in the body, and get inside them, and continue to multiply. It keeps on multiplying until areas of tissue all through the body are filled with crystalloids, which hatch, and more Ebola particles drift into the bloodstream, and the amplification continues inexorably until a droplet of the host’s blood can contain a hundred million individual virus particles.

After death, the cadaver suddenly deteriorates: the internal organs, having been dead or partially dead for days, have already begun to dissolve, and a sort of shock-related meltdown occurs. The corpse’s connective tissue, skin, and organs, already peppered with dead spots, heated by fever, and damaged by shock, begin to liquefy, and the fluids that leak from the cadaver are saturated with Ebola-virus particles.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 21, 2014, 08:47:33 PM
Seems like the perfect human-killing agent.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Pandora on September 21, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Oh, happy day.  So, what do y'all think the proscription is in such a case against hastening the inevitable, in terms of the mortal sins of suicide or homicide?
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 21, 2014, 10:45:29 PM
Right now I'm reading the part of the book about the 1989 Reston, VA "outbreak." This is apparently what the previous sections have been leading up to. Previously discussed in the book: Marburg virus (similar to Ebola (a filovirus) but with a much lower mortality rate...only something like 25%), Ebola Sudan and Ebola Zaire. Ebola Zaire is the one with the 90% mortality rate and the Reston virus is testing out as being extremely similar to it. (If you want to know what the end of this story is you can look it up on wikipedia here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reston_virus) Obviously, there was no mass outbreak and it was kept relatively quiet) Even though the world didn't end with the Reston virus the point is that it could have.

What is very clear from this tale is that we are, even today, nowhere near ready for a pandemic of this magnitude in the US. The politics alone are staggeringly dumbfounding. The government agencies which need to work together to attempt containment (because there is no vaccine and there is no cure) is mind boggling...The US Army, the CDC, the EPA, the USDA, state and local health departments are the minimum number involved in this.

The CDC has the authority but does not have the resources to deal with a major outbreak. The Army has the resources but not the authority. The EPA is supposed to have jurisdiction over "environmental" contamination by an extreme biohazard...I can't even imagine a bunch of clods who can't track down one of their own employees who is taking a crap in their own hallways in charge of anything. The USDA is in charge of any imported animals that might be involved. Throw in DHS and Immigration if it involves crossing the border. It goes on and on and on...

I would be totally confident that the current ebola epidemic could not become well established in the US were it not for the government sponsored open border situation. Right now we have absolutely no idea what is coming in across the southern border (or the northern border, for that matter) and we could be looking at terrorism or extreme biohazard as very real possibilities. We will know if one or both have crossed the border when we see the end results.

Another point to consider: There is no known airborne method of transmission for ebola. It also appears that it would be extremely difficult for the virus to acquire such a method. If it did manage to mutate in such a way as to become airborne it could also mutate in other ways such as those which might make it less dangerous, less lethal. However, (and I never hear anyone discussing this) I see no reason why ebola could not be spread by insect bite. After all, malaria and encephalitis are spread that way as are a great deal of other pathogens. Why not ebola? Mosquitos, fleas, ticks and any other stinging or biting insect should have the ability to pass the infection from one person to another. Just something to consider.

EDIT: FNC has a story about Reston here (http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/09/19/how-virginia-suburb-became-ebola-epicenter/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork) if you would rather read it than the wikipedia entry.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2014, 07:12:26 AM
There was another fiction writer who used a hemmoragic disease as a terror agent in his novel, my brain is slow this morning I should know the author easily but I am drawing a blank...it'll come to me...but the descriptions of the progression for the afflicted was horrid.

I agree with Trap that the border situation and this Regime's unlawful behavior in general makes it likely they will make things worse not better if something happens, and since West Nile can be transmitted by insect bite and is also a virus...that transmission avenue is a potential nightmare...

Just the early signs...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Symptoms_of_ebola.png/640px-Symptoms_of_ebola.png)
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 22, 2014, 10:39:20 PM
DrudgeReport ebola headline roundup:

Swiss healthcare worker flown home after being bitten by ebola patient (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_SWITZERLAND_EBOLA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-22-12-51-28)

WAPO Tuesday: Liberia, WHO Launch Controversial Program To Halt Spread (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-effort-to-fight-ebola-in-liberia-would-move-infected-patients-out-of-their-homes/2014/09/22/f869dc08-4281-11e4-b47c-f5889e061e5f_story.html)

NYT Tuesday: Outbreak Far Worse Than Authorities Acknowledge (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/world/africa/23ebola.html?_r=0)

Warning: Over 1 Million Ebola Cases By End Of January (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/09/22/world-health-organization-ebola/16076067/)

A hopeful and optimistic person would say that this thing is going to burn itself out and stay confined to the countries in central  Africa.

A pessimistic person would be inclined to believe that 1) it is worse than being reported and 2) it's only a matter of time before it gets loose in a third world mega city...and from there...
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2014, 06:54:41 AM
I do not see anybody getting a full lid on this, the cultural wackiness of the region alone spells doom, and if it goes past the PONR we won't know about it until it is well past that point!
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Glock32 on September 23, 2014, 11:29:45 AM
I am more concerned about Islamic types using this as a low tech biological weapon.  I've already heard about them promoting the idea of suicide "bombers" deliberately infecting themselves so they can spread the infection to Western targets.

I don't see much way to deal with this other than trying to contain it geographically.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 23, 2014, 11:57:37 AM
I am more concerned about Islamic types using this as a low tech biological weapon.  I've already heard about them promoting the idea of suicide "bombers" deliberately infecting themselves so they can spread the infection to Western targets.

I don't see much way to deal with this other than trying to contain it geographically.

You must be a rayciss.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 23, 2014, 10:36:14 PM
This evening's Drudge ebola headline link is...

CDC: Ebola Scare For Millions (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-ebola-could-infect-14-million-in-west-africa-by-end-of-january-if-trends-continue/2014/09/23/fc260920-4317-11e4-9a15-137aa0153527_story.html)

Quote
The Ebola epidemic in West Africa, already ghastly, could get worse by orders of magnitude, killing hundreds of thousands of people and embedding itself in the human population for years to come, according to two worst-case scenarios from scientists studying the historic outbreak.

The virus could potentially infect 1.4 million people in Liberia and Sierra Leone by the end of January, according to a statistical forecast by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published Tuesday. That number came just hours after a report in the New England Journal of Medicine warned that the epidemic might never be fully controlled and that the virus could become endemic, crippling civic life in the affected countries and presenting an ongoing threat of spreading elsewhere.

These dire scenarios from highly respected medical sources were framed, however, by optimism from U.S. officials that an accelerated response can and will contain the outbreak in the weeks and months ahead.

So, as I highlighted above, this would be the pessimist point of view...that what we are seeing is pretty much hopeless and doomed to spiral out of control.

I'm not so sure that this is what will happen. I'm not so sure that it is inevitable that without extraordinary human intervention (super quarantines, etc.) this thing is not stoppable.

From what I have read about previous ebola outbreaks the disease's progress seems to reach a breaking point and it just stops. No one knows why but it just does. And then it disappears back into whatever hole that it hides in until, just as mysteriously, it pops up again.

If this time it's different, if this time it doesn't just stop of its own accord, then I have to believe that it will be due to someone(s) exercising their choice to spread it purposefully...as a weapon of chaos.

I can see it getting loose in a third world mega city. These mega cities are more populous than ever now with several million people living in something akin to "Soylent Green" type conditions (think Mexico City, Rio De Janeiro, Dhaka, etc.). This is the perfect storm scenario for any infectious disease. Ebola is not much different (and in not being airborne it isn't worse) than many other communicable diseases at least as far as its ability to spread goes. Where it does stand out is 1) how little of it is needed to infect, 2) how horrid it is after the symptoms appear and 3) how high its mortality rate is. It scares the sh*t out of people for a lot of very good reasons. Personally, I don't want to go anywhere near something that can swell my testicles up to the size of peaches and then make them explode. In a big city this could be very bad.

At any rate, I suppose we will know sooner rather than later whether this is hysteria or the real thing. I mean, take AGW, for instance...the doom predictions for that are decades out and most of the world will forget all about them before that date arrives. But, with this we only have to wait until January or February of next year. That's not very far out. This thing will either do nothing or it will be horrible beyond belief or something in between. Something in between, though, will still be pretty awful.

And if it does become "weaponized" by way of a biological suicide "bomber" it could end up in the US or in the EU and then we are into a whole other scenario.

Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 26, 2014, 01:56:28 AM
I am beginning to think that there is a very good chance that Sierra Leone and Liberia may not survive as countries. Not as we have seen them prior to this year. I say this because it looks as if they are not up to containing the outbreak and are probably looking at nearly everyone being infected before long. Since this strain of ebola has a 50% mortality rate...well, can any country survive if it loses half of its population?
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2014, 06:57:45 AM
I am beginning to think that there is a very good chance that Sierra Leone and Liberia may not survive as countries. Not as we have seen them prior to this year. I say this because it looks as if they are not up to containing the outbreak and are probably looking at nearly everyone being infected before long. Since this strain of ebola has a 50% mortality rate...well, can any country survive if it loses half of its population?

No.

But can any nation also survive by committing any kind of suicide?  Look what Obama is doing to everything, especially the military (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12128.new#new)!

And given this enterovirus outbreak here continues to spread and baffle doc's (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=10994.new#new)...

There is a host of things that can end our or any/every other nation on this planet, but it sure seems like the population of things keeps hitting new highs!
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: trapeze on September 29, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
Okay, here is something (http://www.trust.org/item/20140924050025-pl7nh/?source=fiTheWire) which is pretty damned real. Seems that the hospital which treated the TWO Americans who were infected in Africa couldn't find anyone to haul away the highly infectious medical waste that was generated. Article claims that at the height of the "treatment" process they were generating 40 sacks of sh*t, puke and blood per day. I would be burning the crap but that's me. They couldn't get their waste disposal company to haul it away because the waste company cited federal regs for doing so that the hospital was not meeting.

In the end we will die from government regs just as sure as the day is long.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Pandora on September 29, 2014, 02:24:21 AM
Burning it in what?  Burning it in the open may create an airborne infection vector: air, vapor, smoke.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on September 29, 2014, 07:09:35 AM
Burning it in what?  Burning it in the open may create an airborne infection vector: air, vapor, smoke.

Hopsitals have to contain all hazardous medical waste for transport (orange "biohazard" labels) and they almost always contract this service so the stuff can be hauled off for inceneration, and the vendor will sanitize barrels before return use.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2014, 11:19:19 AM
See.  More proof African's are too stupid to live!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/source-of-current-ebola-epidemic-was-bat-eating-family-in-guinea-village/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/source-of-current-ebola-epidemic-was-bat-eating-family-in-guinea-village/)

 ::pullhair::
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Glock32 on October 20, 2014, 12:20:14 PM
Burning it in what?  Burning it in the open may create an airborne infection vector: air, vapor, smoke.

Hopsitals have to contain all hazardous medical waste for transport (orange "biohazard" labels) and they almost always contract this service so the stuff can be hauled off for inceneration, and the vendor will sanitize barrels before return use.


I actually saw one of those "how do they do it?" TV shows about this.  The clinical staff bags everything in the biohazard bags, and the company that collects them runs them through a big steam vessel. The steam sterilizes the waste, which then goes into a shredding and sorting machine.  The shredded and sorted (plastic, metal, etc) materials then run on a conveyor line into an industrial microwave for an additional sterilization. At that point it's treated as ordinary waste and either incinerated or recycled.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: richb on October 20, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
Many institutions (not just hospitals) back in the day had their own incinerators on their own campus or somewhere on the property.    My private high school had one that they managed to use into the 1990's when some greenie noticed it had one.   That of course was the end of it.    They used it to destroy records they didn't need anymore,(along with some regular everyday trash)  but was still private info (remember back when places actually cared about protecting your privacy?).   

If it wasn't for the greenies,  destroying stuff like medical waste wouldn't be a problem,  because it wouldn't even have to go anywhere but the basement where the door to the incinerator was.

I know the real estate firm I once worked at spent thousands a year on destroying old records (by shredding),  that would have just been burned for free back 20-30 years ago.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: AlanS on October 20, 2014, 08:51:13 PM
NEVER FEAR! HELP IS ON THE WAY!!!!!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10171916_10201641213750389_3874351846243127307_n.jpg?oh=92ad58e707ecd0dc52659de07e81f387&oe=54EC0136&__gda__=1424863561_7b429fb44fcd86461845ebb2abc4f6b2)
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on October 21, 2014, 07:01:21 AM
Wait, you said "Help" is on the way, right?

 ::hysterical::

That boy couldn't help his way out of a wet paper bag!

 ::mooning::
Title: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 25, 2014, 01:44:37 PM
From his own mouth. The top issue facing world leadership is overpopulation and the strain it puts on resources. This is Obama's "Ebola Czar". (Audio is low, but turn it up, and it is quite plainly stated)

Ebola Czar Ron Klain Says "Overpopulation" Top Concern (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRdpi0Ww2-8#ws)
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: AmericanPatriot on October 25, 2014, 02:04:53 PM
He should voluntarily reduce the population by one.
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: richb on October 25, 2014, 02:38:26 PM
He should voluntarily reduce the population by one.

lol

That's not the one he has in mind.   ha ha

Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: whimsicalmamapig on October 25, 2014, 02:41:47 PM
biologically, ebola is just doing nature's job, thinning the herd.  we need to stop intervening in the natural process, especially when it comes to foodstamps and welfare
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: John Florida on October 25, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
biologically, ebola is just doing nature's job, thinning the herd.  we need to stop intervening in the natural process, especially when it comes to foodstamps and welfare



          ::clapping::
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: BigAlSouth on October 26, 2014, 05:02:45 AM
Ron Klain = Fabian Socialist?
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: Glock32 on October 26, 2014, 10:39:45 AM
Well I certainly have full faith that a malthusian socialist who believes overpopulation is our greatest problem will be sure to devote full resources to battling a disease that has mortality approaching 90%.  Or he might see it as just what the "doctor" ordered.
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: Libertas on October 26, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
Awesome....this is like giving Dr Mengele a humanitarian award...
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: Pandora on October 26, 2014, 01:03:54 PM
Awesome....this is like giving Dr Mengele a humanitarian award...

That's the thing:  guys like Klain believe they honestly deserve it.
Title: Re: Ebola Czar Ron Klain: Top Issue in the World is Overpopulation (video)
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2014, 06:31:28 AM
Awesome....this is like giving Dr Mengele a humanitarian award...

That's the thing:  guys like Klain believe they honestly deserve it.

They deserve something quite the opposite...they all do...and I hope to get to see/participate in some of that!

There just simply is no justification for cooperating with evil, zero, zip...nada!
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: richb on October 27, 2014, 05:30:16 PM
Since its racists to quarantine Africa,  why are other African countries closing their borders with the three countries with Ebola?

Because they can't have it spread to them,  duh!  Yeah,  its that simple!

It's alway pointed out by the regime and other liberal that only three nations have ebola in Africa.  So what?   They fail to note that Ebola isn't the only nasty thing brewing in Africa. 

Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Glock32 on October 27, 2014, 07:10:06 PM
Hell, Ebola probably can't even crack Africa's Top 5.
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Pandora on October 27, 2014, 11:48:28 PM
Let Africa Sink (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts)
Title: Re: It is time to quarantine Africa
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2014, 07:27:59 AM
Let Africa Sink (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts)

Yeah, this really covers the essentials, Africa 101, no follow up course needed, thank you!

"In Africa, life is cheap."  That will never change.

"The viciousness, the cruelty, the corruption, the duplicity, the savagery, and the incompetence is endemic to the entire continent, and is so much of an anathema to any right-thinking person that the civilized imagination simply stalls when faced with its ubiquity, and with the enormity of trying to fix it. The Western media shouldn't even bother reporting on it. All that does is arouse our feelings of horror, and the instinctive need to do something, anything--but everything has been tried before, and failed. Everything, of course, except self-reliance."

Yup.

"All we should do is make sure that none of Africa gets transplanted over to the U.S., because the danger to our society is dire if it does."

Too fricken late...if the threat of Ebola isn't stopping flights, nothing will. So, this point is moot.

"So here's my solution for the African fiasco: a high wall around the whole continent, all the guns and bombs in the world for everyone inside, and at the end, the last one alive should do us all a favor and kill himself."

That was largely being done, with help by the West, Russia, China and the Norks, then this humanitarian crap kicked in...no surprise it seemed to pick up steam about the same time progressive mind-rot was settling in deeper.  Again, this option is rendered moot by the very idiocy plaguing the Western world.

Bottom line this author (man? woman?) is correct, but, we're screwed already!

The only thing that can save us is the very thing people on both sides of our own divide here at home fear, for different reasons...

But...this person left out one important player who could overrun this continent...some Pan-Islamic state. 

Still, would be one less jackass to deal with in the end...
Title: Obama's Obola Fiasco
Post by: Septugenarian on January 18, 2015, 08:58:49 PM
Oh, Whoop!!  The Bamster blew a bunch of cash an military resources on another big waste!!   ::bashing::

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/us-built-ebola-treatment-centers-in-liberia-are-nearly-empty-as-disease-fades/2015/01/18/9acc3e2c-9b52-11e4-86a3-1b56f64925f6_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/us-built-ebola-treatment-centers-in-liberia-are-nearly-empty-as-disease-fades/2015/01/18/9acc3e2c-9b52-11e4-86a3-1b56f64925f6_story.html)

 TUBMANBURG, Liberia — Near the hillside shelter where dozens of men and women died of Ebola, a row of green U.S. military tents sit atop a vast expanse of imported gravel. The generators hum; chlorinated water churns in brand-new containers; surveillance cameras send a live feed to a large-screen television.

There’s only one thing missing from this state-of-the-art Ebola treatment center: Ebola patients.
Title: Re: Obama's Obola Fiasco
Post by: trapeze on January 19, 2015, 03:29:02 PM
President DumbAss had help, though. There is no shortage of blame to be passed around for this and countless other federal actions for which the answer is ALWAYS to shoot bazooka loads of taxpayer money at any problem without any consideration to its  efficacy. Republicans and Democrats are both responsible for this nonsense. Barry merely took the credit.

The thing is (and this is where I launch into a broad rant), I am very discouraged about the future of our country. Yes, there are still some very big differences between Democrat and Republican elected officials but unfortunately with each passing day those differences are getting smaller. The establishment Republicans are virtually indistinguishable from the Democrats on virtually all non-military/national security issues. They have never been on board with the conservative social agenda and they have historically only given lip service to the conservative fiscal agenda. Only recently has it become clear that they have dropped the pretense about being fiscally responsible. We have been sold out. We all know it.

It is only the conservative wing that still carries the flame for the concept of a representative, Constitutional, non-intrusive, small government. And they are a minority. They fight the good fight but it is a charge of the Light Brigade. A Sisyphean task. I am resigned to watching the sun set on our country. I know that my children will raise their children in a darkened world. We have had a good run but it's largely over and it may be decades or centuries before it happens again. It may never happen again. But it happened once and because of that I am at least mildly hopeful. Right now, though, I see us as like the failing Roman Empire...consumed with carnality, corrupt and rotting from within.

*sigh*

Title: Re: Obama's Obola Fiasco
Post by: Weisshaupt on January 19, 2015, 06:14:12 PM
President DumbAss had help, though. There is no shortage of blame to be passed around for this and countless other federal actions for which the answer is ALWAYS to shoot bazooka loads of taxpayer money at any problem without any consideration to its  efficacy. Republicans and Democrats are both responsible for this nonsense. Barry merely took the credit.

The thing is (and this is where I launch into a broad rant), I am very discouraged about the future of our country. Yes, there are still some very big differences between Democrat and Republican elected officials but unfortunately with each passing day those differences are getting smaller. The establishment Republicans are virtually indistinguishable from the Democrats on virtually all non-military/national security issues. They have never been on board with the conservative social agenda and they have historically only given lip service to the conservative fiscal agenda. Only recently has it become clear that they have dropped the pretense about being fiscally responsible. We have been sold out. We all know it.

It is only the conservative wing that still carries the flame for the concept of a representative, Constitutional, non-intrusive, small government. And they are a minority. They fight the good fight but it is a charge of the Light Brigade. A Sisyphean task. I am resigned to watching the sun set on our country. I know that my children will raise their children in a darkened world. We have had a good run but it's largely over and it may be decades or centuries before it happens again. It may never happen again. But it happened once and because of that I am at least mildly hopeful. Right now, though, I see us as like the failing Roman Empire...consumed with carnality, corrupt and rotting from within.

*sigh*

We could have a long drawn out fall like Rome, but I doubt it.  The improved communication and transportation  have yielded "just in time" delivery systems and a degree of interconnectedness that is unprecedented.  The fall of the United States has been underway now since at least the early 1900s ( Prohibition, income tax, popular election of senators, the federal reserve,  and yes, sorry ladies, woman's suffrage.) One could even argue that the Civil War was the beginning of the fall as it lead to a significant strengthening of the Federal government. These United States became THE United States.

The Final Fall will come swiftly, over decades at best, but more likely just a few years.  Assuming we avoid a civil war -- The Dollar will go, Federal services and enforcement will go with it, and the millions dependent upon those services will riot, and then starve or be killed by other citizens protecting  their own life and property. I am hoping the world powers will simply see this as a wonderful moment to grab control of the situation, and won't bother invading - letting us stew instead - but they could just EMP us and then come in to invade and  after a few winters have softened us up.  But its more likely they will just use their control over the new reserve currency to buy up resources and pay Americans 3rd world wages t extract them , just as is done now in Africa and South America. Just like the multinationals did to Argentina after her collapse. I suspect that unlike Argentine though, a large part of our population will simply commit suicide when they can't have the latest iDevice, their cable is cancelled and eating means working - hard - with your hands.

after the r-Type herd has been destroyed and before we are invaded by K-type warriors from elsewhere, when the majoirty are freedom loving independents-- that is when we must collect ourselves and reinstate the Constitution - with some required improvements - such as taking public assistance or govt contracts deprives you of the right to vote or to be active politically in any format,  a voter fraud system that is actually enforced ( I am fond the Iraqi purple dye on the hands), and a protection of the individual right of conscience ( not just "religion"  ) - and a flat tax system in which EVERYONE PAYS, and a requirement that ONLY gold and silver may be used for currency- and only the STATE governments may mint it.  (Perhaps allow a "speculative" fiat currency be allowed to live along side it.. maybe..).  I would also support a dollar for dollar reduction in taxes for charitable donations. Our time is coming. It has happened once, and WE KNOW THAT and have enjoyed the fruits of it.  It makes it ever so likely to happen again.  Even if there is a police state you can be the first space colony  will declare independence as soon as its possible, and if we get a star drive, the people like us will always push out a little farther to keep away from the ever grown arm of the alliance.  Humans will again live free someday.  But perhaps not in our lifetimes.

 

Title: Re: Obama's Obola Fiasco
Post by: trapeze on January 20, 2015, 12:54:07 AM
A world without the USA is going to be very bad indeed, though. A long, long time in darkness for humanity awaits. A new dark ages.
Title: Re: Obama's Obola Fiasco
Post by: Libertas on January 20, 2015, 07:30:13 AM
Not everybody in this nation is a suicidal jackass!

Problem is...the suicidal jackasses are also homicidal...they want to kill everyone else too!!

Some folks don't look kindly on that sort of thing and are going to go hard if they go at all...these idiots will find that out sooner or later...(I'm hoping sooner!)
Title: Ebola Vaccine
Post by: Weisshaupt on December 23, 2016, 04:52:38 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/health/ebola-vaccine.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fhealth&action=click&contentCollection=health&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/health/ebola-vaccine.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fhealth&action=click&contentCollection=health&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=1)

Quote
The vaccine has not yet been approved by any regulatory authority, but it is considered so effective that an emergency stockpile of 300,000 doses has already been created for use should an outbreak flare up again.

If it does flare up, these doses will be available at your local FEMA camp along with your work detail assignment and your identity chip.


Title: Re: Ebola Vaccine
Post by: Libertas on December 24, 2016, 01:47:59 PM
Thanks for that bit of umm....good news?

Yeah, the Establishment hierarchy already got theirs...free to introduce the virus at their leisure.

We really took our eye for this angle, didn't we?

Gah!
Title: Re: Ebola Vaccine
Post by: AlanS on December 24, 2016, 05:32:39 PM
Why do I get the feeling I'm not on the "list"?
Title: The Ebola Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2018, 12:03:00 PM
Jeesh, I had no idea we had so many threads about Ebola!

1st - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6473.msg72837.html#msg72837 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6473.msg72837.html#msg72837)

2nd - More on "they're coming to off us" - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11801.msg133026.html#msg133026 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11801.msg133026.html#msg133026)

3rd - Coming to kill us part 2 and Obama is part of it - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11795.msg133167.html#msg133167 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11795.msg133167.html#msg133167)

4th - Crichton novel tie in and Obola planned indifference - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11821.msg133257.html#msg133257 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11821.msg133257.html#msg133257)

5th - Reston, VA/Hot Zone/tainted meat - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11831.msg133283.html#msg133283 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11831.msg133283.html#msg133283)

6th - Ebola spreading - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11986.msg134656.html#msg134656 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,11986.msg134656.html#msg134656)

7th - Obala's moonbat Ebola Czar (who did absolutely nothing on Ebola) - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,12254.msg136962.html#msg136962 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,12254.msg136962.html#msg136962)

8th - My call to quarantine Africa (unheeded by TPTB's) - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,12038.msg137086.html#msg137086 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,12038.msg137086.html#msg137086)

9th - Foolish Obala/DeepState double-down on stupid and committing military to Africa - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,12597.msg140267.html#msg140267 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,12597.msg140267.html#msg140267)

10th - Vaccine for the DeepState, rest of America gets nothing - http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,14882.msg159953.html#msg159953 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,14882.msg159953.html#msg159953)

And now the latest update:

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/08/nothing-good-to-see-here.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/08/nothing-good-to-see-here.html)

The confusing story...due to Africa being Africa and DeepState organs being DeepState organs...basically, as with most things, we are all on our own.

So, helpful hints of stuff to avoid, should be common sense...

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/bushmeat.jpg)

(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/ghanawestafricabushmeatebola-746b6.jpg)

Needless to say, avoid here as well...open borders crowd credit where it belongs.  Weisshaupt's initial assertion that the end game is in play and this is one vehicle of their final solution cannot be invalidated yet.
Title: Re: The Ebola Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 31, 2018, 12:24:03 PM
This link from your post --

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/08/nothing-good-to-see-here.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/08/nothing-good-to-see-here.html)

-- is the latest I've read on the coming fiasco.  Aesop's got quite a way with words and I get "coming fiasco" from what he's written.

P.S. I didn't realize either that we had that many Ebola threads.

eta:  Perhaps some merging is in order ..........  What do you think, Libertas?
Title: Re: The Ebola Thread
Post by: Libertas on August 31, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
If we stack 'em in order, probably be OK as they line up pretty good.  I know we have other topics we could do that but some conversations get a dominant theme and others ramble all over...but this one seems to lend itself to merging.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: The Ebola Thread
Post by: Pandora on August 31, 2018, 09:11:29 PM
Arranging every post in chronological order would be a huge pain and I'm not willing to invest the time.  I will merge the threads.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on August 31, 2018, 09:32:12 PM
Done, however it worked out.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on September 02, 2018, 11:32:37 AM
Looks good!   ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on September 05, 2018, 10:05:01 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6134833/Emirates-flight-Vanilla-Ice-onboard-quarantined-JFK.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6134833/Emirates-flight-Vanilla-Ice-onboard-quarantined-JFK.html)

Hmmm ......... might be nothing, might be flu, might be MERS, might be something else.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on September 06, 2018, 06:54:46 AM
Yeah, somebody radioed ahead.  It's seems obvious somebody knows more details.  Could be anything...definitely would not feel thrilled to be on that plane.  So I happy I gave up flying.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on September 07, 2018, 10:12:07 AM
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/405395-ebola-outbreak-in-congo-spreads-to-new-city (http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/405395-ebola-outbreak-in-congo-spreads-to-new-city)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: John Florida on September 07, 2018, 11:33:03 AM
  Open those borders!!!
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on September 08, 2018, 09:38:42 AM
 ::facepalm::

Here we go again.

It's a matter of when, not if...an infected person just waltzes through wherever...
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on September 08, 2018, 10:02:47 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6134833/Emirates-flight-Vanilla-Ice-onboard-quarantined-JFK.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6134833/Emirates-flight-Vanilla-Ice-onboard-quarantined-JFK.html)

Hmmm ......... might be nothing, might be flu, might be MERS, might be something else.

Damn, should have known!

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/mecca-pilgrims-ill-us-airports-haj-saudi-arabia-10696946 (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/mecca-pilgrims-ill-us-airports-haj-saudi-arabia-10696946)

On Wednesday, US health officials sent an emergency response team with mobile diagnostic equipment to John F Kennedy International Airport in New York after they were told that more than 100 passengers aboard an Emirates airlines flight from Dubai were experiencing flu-like symptoms.

Dr Martin Cetron, director for the division of Global Migration and Quarantine at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told Reuters in a telephone interview that health officials evaluated nearly 549 passengers at the airport, and sent a total of 11 people to a local hospital for more testing.

Ten people were tested for a battery of respiratory viruses and bacteria in hopes of ruling out serious pathogens that could present a public health threat.

Two of them tested positive for an especially virulent type of influenza A virus, and one of the two, who was gravely ill with pneumonia, was co-infected with another respiratory virus, Cetron said. A third person tested positive for a cold virus.

All three had taken part in the Haj, which this year drew 2 million people to Mecca, Cetron said.
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The next day, two flights arriving in Philadelphia from Europe were screened by medical teams after 12 passengers reported flu-like symptoms. One of them had visited Mecca for the Haj.

Cetron said health officials in New York had been prepared to quarantine a large group of sick passengers in an area at the airport. From a total of 11 passengers taken to hospital for evaluation, 10 were tested for respiratory symptoms; one showed signs of food poisoning.

"It was a much smaller incident. That's not uncommon," Cetron said. "Often the incoming information from multiple sources can be exaggerated beyond what we really find."

All 10 patients with respiratory symptoms tested negative for the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome or MERS, a highly infectious and deadly respiratory infection that was first identified in the Middle East in 2012.


Reading between the lines...no protocol for people who don't complain or do not exhibit alarming symptoms...meaning if bio-weaponized suicidal carriers wanted to, they could infiltrate while early in an infected state with something nasty and extremely contagious and nobody would be radioing ahead to do a quarantine...and the nasty would be well established and spreading by the time they knew something was terribly wrong.

Here's an idea...

(https://images2.imgbox.com/21/33/5JhgEnTs_o.jpg)

(https://images2.imgbox.com/bc/7e/W8STzCTU_o.gif)

(https://images2.imgbox.com/d8/e6/YuVXe9VO_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: John Florida on September 08, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
  If you believe the CDC that were all good.  I suspect everyone right about now.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on October 29, 2018, 06:10:47 AM
http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/10/well-thats-problem.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/10/well-thats-problem.html)

Quote
... This is now probably going to skyrocket presently, because it's going to keep spreading exposure faster than they can contain it and vaccinate around it, not least of which because they had over 40 burials that were not done properly, which exposes family members to the virus from contaminated corpses.

That's how you get an outbreak that won't taper off.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2018, 07:41:24 AM
http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/10/well-thats-problem.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/10/well-thats-problem.html)

Quote
... This is now probably going to skyrocket presently, because it's going to keep spreading exposure faster than they can contain it and vaccinate around it, not least of which because they had over 40 burials that were not done properly, which exposes family members to the virus from contaminated corpses.

That's how you get an outbreak that won't taper off.

Africa...just quarantine it already!!!

 ::pullhair::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on November 08, 2018, 09:52:09 AM
Quote
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield said Monday that the Ebola outbreak in conflict-ridden Congo has become so serious that international public health experts need to consider the possibility that it cannot be brought under control and instead will become entrenched.

If that happened, it would be the first time since the deadly viral disease was first identified in 1976 that an Ebola outbreak led to the persistent presence of the disease. In all previous outbreaks, most of which took place in remote areas, the disease was contained before it spread widely. The current outbreak is entering its fourth month, with nearly 300 cases, including 186 deaths.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2018/11/05/cdc-director-warns-that-congos-ebola-outbreak-may-not-be-containable/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f2b62fe01c6c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2018/11/05/cdc-director-warns-that-congos-ebola-outbreak-may-not-be-containable/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f2b62fe01c6c)

H/T http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/ (http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2018, 11:29:43 AM
Yeah...let's not quarantine that hot-zone...or all of Africa...or suspend free travel between...

I was told there would be new white sneakers and purple shrouds first?!

 ::speechless::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on November 08, 2018, 12:12:05 PM
Aesop is on it as well ......... (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/11/crystal-ball-score-2-0-today.html)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2018, 12:26:16 PM
Ahhhh...ummmmm....

"entrenched"?

Yeah...might want to get working on a LOT of trenches...they're gonna fill up fast...

 ::)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on November 30, 2018, 08:26:21 AM
Up to second worst outbreak ever...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-ebola-congo/ebola-outbreak-in-east-congo-now-worlds-second-biggest-idUSKCN1NY2LY (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-ebola-congo/ebola-outbreak-in-east-congo-now-worlds-second-biggest-idUSKCN1NY2LY)

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on December 09, 2018, 08:19:32 AM
http://fortune.com/2018/12/07/africa-congo-ebola-outbreak-2018-butembo/ (http://fortune.com/2018/12/07/africa-congo-ebola-outbreak-2018-butembo/)

Quote
... The ongoing Ebola virus outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo has now reached Butembo, a city of over one million residents near the Ugandan border, according to the Associated Press.

...There’s an additional cause for concern as the outbreak continues: whether the vaccine stockpile will hold up. Specifically, health experts are concerned that the reserve of an experimental vaccine will run out as the epidemic continues without any sign of abating, according to the AP.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on December 12, 2018, 11:28:55 AM
http://fortune.com/2018/12/07/africa-congo-ebola-outbreak-2018-butembo/ (http://fortune.com/2018/12/07/africa-congo-ebola-outbreak-2018-butembo/)

Quote
... The ongoing Ebola virus outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo has now reached Butembo, a city of over one million residents near the Ugandan border, according to the Associated Press.

...There’s an additional cause for concern as the outbreak continues: whether the vaccine stockpile will hold up. Specifically, health experts are concerned that the reserve of an experimental vaccine will run out as the epidemic continues without any sign of abating, according to the AP.

Q. Would you stick around if you were offered the vaccine?
Yes. Long enough to get the vaccine.
Currently, of those who have received the experimental vaccine on an emergency basis, there have been zero Ebola infections, and no serious side effects noted.
Once I had gotten it, I would still GTFO of Dodge, and then hunker down somewhere behind concertina wire with clear fields of fire.
Q. What are the chances that vaccinated people could inadvertently infect a loved one by accidentally bringing the virus home through poor infectious control procedures?

Exactly the same as unvaccinated people doing that. If Ebola comes in, GTFO.
Period. If you can get vaccinated first, do that. Then GTFO.

Q. Is it even possible to ramp up vaccine production to one hundred million or a billion doses? We know Ebola can produce enough virus.
No effing idea. That's a question for the bean counters at Merck, Glaxo-Smith-Klein, etc. It's mainly a question of time, resource allocation, and facilities available. Making Ebola vaccine probably means they're not making tetanus, measles, and flu shots, for example, which killed more people in the 20th century than Ebola has in all outbreaks combined. In any event, it's a months-long process, and depending on when you start, you may be too late to succeed, because you won't have enough until six months after everyone in the affected area is dead. Complicating things is that so far, the vaccine is still experimental, and only being used on humans in the affected hot zone(s), because so far, there's been no full clinical trials.

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/12/questions-i-get-questions.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/12/questions-i-get-questions.html)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on December 30, 2018, 02:58:48 PM
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/29/ebola-doctor-united-states-1076875 (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/29/ebola-doctor-united-states-1076875)

Swell, eh?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: John Florida on December 30, 2018, 03:55:42 PM
  Perfect just perfect.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on December 31, 2018, 10:57:16 AM
I think Aesop sums it up best...especially with the graphics -

(https://imgur.com/xw5QKxE.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/QkW8NSn.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/IAs5dgo.jpg)

https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/12/ebola-update.html

Yup, only 23 available beds nationwide and of those only 11 staffed...and a minimum 25+ day incubation period...and 14 days is good enough for them...

Yup...perfect.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on April 20, 2019, 11:29:34 AM
Ebola still going...and it must be hard getting help when the help is getting gunned down...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ebola-worker-killed-hospital-eastern-dr-congo-181745813.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/ebola-worker-killed-hospital-eastern-dr-congo-181745813.html)

DRC is a special place, eh?

A little O/T - And is it me or did 4/20 go from a chronic day to a lets scare people day?

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-04-19/syphilis-is-invading-rural-america-and-a-fraying-health-safety-net-is-failing-to-stop-it (https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-04-19/syphilis-is-invading-rural-america-and-a-fraying-health-safety-net-is-failing-to-stop-it)

Phaggs.   ::)

https://www.studyfinds.org/one-in-five-children-suffers-from-mental-health-disorder/ (https://www.studyfinds.org/one-in-five-children-suffers-from-mental-health-disorder/)

More drugs for kiddies coming.

https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/health-care/article229459754.html (https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/health-care/article229459754.html)

Flu, worst ever...right?

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/04/18/concern-measles-spreading-spring-break-easter-passover/ (https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/04/18/concern-measles-spreading-spring-break-easter-passover/)

Turdworldization...everything is awesome.

/
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: benb61 on April 20, 2019, 12:19:31 PM
Ebola still going...and it must be hard getting help when the help is getting gunned down...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ebola-worker-killed-hospital-eastern-dr-congo-181745813.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/ebola-worker-killed-hospital-eastern-dr-congo-181745813.html)

DRC is a special place, eh?

A little O/T - And is it me or did 4/20 go from a chronic day to a lets scare people day?

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-04-19/syphilis-is-invading-rural-america-and-a-fraying-health-safety-net-is-failing-to-stop-it (https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-04-19/syphilis-is-invading-rural-america-and-a-fraying-health-safety-net-is-failing-to-stop-it)

Phaggs.   ::)

https://www.studyfinds.org/one-in-five-children-suffers-from-mental-health-disorder/ (https://www.studyfinds.org/one-in-five-children-suffers-from-mental-health-disorder/)

More drugs for kiddies coming.

https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/health-care/article229459754.html (https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/health-care/article229459754.html)

Flu, worst ever...right?

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/04/18/concern-measles-spreading-spring-break-easter-passover/ (https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/04/18/concern-measles-spreading-spring-break-easter-passover/)

Turdworldization...everything is awesome.

/

And going strictly according to the Commies plan!!
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on May 08, 2019, 07:42:25 AM
Q.: Is the Ebola Virus effected by subfreezing temps?

A.: Yes. It gets frozen in place, and then when things thaw, there it is, right where you left it.
From the MSDS Online relevant section:
SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days. Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4°C for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70°C.
IOW, sub-freezing just preserves it until it thaws. Forever.
At anything above 39° F, it's still fully infectious. And it thrives at the equator.
You want to make it go away, you want fire.

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/05/ebola-faq-file.html?m=1 (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/05/ebola-faq-file.html?m=1)

Damn.

Well, doesn't alter my belief in a quarantine of Africa.

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on May 10, 2019, 07:24:21 AM
https://apnews.com/f37cb9c50fea45b4a061c1e8d7b33a03

This story never changes, does it?  People are terminally stupid...
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: patentlymn on June 04, 2019, 10:49:48 AM

This guy keeps taling the ebola issue and has for a long time. He is entertaining and I usually agree with him.
He looks like a freak.
styxhexenhammer666
https://youtu.be/r1l_qS-h2wU
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Alphabet Soup on June 04, 2019, 07:57:20 PM

This guy keeps taling the ebola issue and has for a long time. He is entertaining and I usually agree with him.
He looks like a freak.
styxhexenhammer666
https://youtu.be/r1l_qS-h2wU


Stupid moniker - incisive commentary. I'm a subscriber.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 05, 2019, 06:53:27 AM
Didn't go enough into the hospitals...I documented it in this thread earlier I thought, very few areas around the nation equipped and minimally staffed to handle this virus and a few other spots here and there in reserve with no staff with experience.  Any significant outbreak here and I don't know if hospitals could respond quickly enough to be able to abate its spread.

Oh, and now to make things worse on a source-containment front...

http://news.trust.org/item/20190604191037-ap8pc (http://news.trust.org/item/20190604191037-ap8pc)

...swell, huh?

/

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on June 05, 2019, 08:27:58 AM
Aesop at Raconteur Report goes into the hospitals issue; nothing's changed since 2014, he says.

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/june-ebola-update.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/june-ebola-update.html)

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/do-math.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/do-math.html)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 06, 2019, 06:50:32 AM
Aesop at Raconteur Report goes into the hospitals issue; nothing's changed since 2014, he says.

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/june-ebola-update.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/june-ebola-update.html)

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/do-math.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/do-math.html)

Yup, pretty sure he was my source before as well (that second link).

FTFL -

But if it breaks out here, we have 11 BL-IV beds, max, to adequately contain that outbreak.
For reference, Mexico has zero beds.
I repeat, Mexico has zero beds.

If it breaks out south of the border, one case becomes 100 cases...
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Proper protective equipment for Ebola, we repeat and belabor, is several lengths of military-grade concertina, warning signs, a shotgun and supply of buckshot, and small breakable containers with a suitable flame accelerant, for emergency decontamination beyond the perimeter.

Yup.  Gotta get some military-grade concertina or equivalent.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: patentlymn on June 06, 2019, 07:57:57 AM
Many years ago I read a book The Coming Plague: Newly Emerging Diseases in a World Out of Balance
by Laurie Garrett  (Author) 1994.

The title is a little much for me but the book was excellent. Great science writing is rare. This was a page turner. She won a Pulitizer for this or something else. She describes in detail how something minor spreads and spreads. Some real life stories.

I recall one narrative. In the old days someone ate bush meat, and died a horrible death in some village. Maybe the whole hut died, or even most of the village. No big deal.

The along came 'rebels' with AK47s who killed lots of people. This created transients and widows who turned to prostitution to survive. They get open sores from VD. Along come truckers along long highways. They catch the VD, more open sores. The truckers travel long distances. The next time someone catches Ebola in a village it spreads far and wide.

Nuns provided prenatal care to African women including B12 shots.  They have to reuse needles, even resharpening them with grind stones. No sterilization. One woman has ebola and gets a shot. It gets spread far and wide.  The part about immune compromised AIDS/TB patients was scary.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on June 12, 2019, 09:20:50 PM
Quote
This blog, June 5th:

    "I repeat for the record, as of June 5th, based on available evidence, and barring any changes in worldwide response,

    this one's going to blow containment.

    Get your preps in order.
    When it gets out, if it's near you, it'll already be too late." - moi

Read the rest.  It's blown containment.

https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/told-you-so.html
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 13, 2019, 07:59:48 AM
We're f**ked.  Even if official traffic closed down...the borders remain porous and we've already seen several instances of illegals from African nations invading our land.

I tell ya...not going out quiet or alone!!!
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on June 13, 2019, 09:11:37 AM
The lamestream media sure isn't .......... hmmm, maybe if it's here and spreads, they will report it to make Trump look bad.

If they don't, what do y'all figure we should be watching for?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 13, 2019, 12:32:35 PM
The lamestream media sure isn't .......... hmmm, maybe if it's here and spreads, they will report it to make Trump look bad.

If they don't, what do y'all figure we should be watching for?

Any watching by definition is way too late...and any news to be had via MFM is only going to be coming out if in some way the demonized groups (Trump, Trump people, Trump supporters...non-demonazi white hetero Christian males and such) can be blamed.

The public likely will be universally uninformed.  But if reports via family, friends, co-workers...friends of friends & family in the border patrol or militia, construction workers on the wall...fedcoat agency types hear/see sick illegals being carted away in full hazmat containment procedures (or they and their families go off work unannounced and out of town)...hospital workers and odd patient quarantines or workers quitting suddenly or even dying suddenly...or like in the depths of the Cold War VIPs disappearing from public view or seen hauling ass out of town/into bunkers. 

Again, for most...this is too late, patient zero beget patients too many!

The fedcoats will not want to cause a panic until they themselves are out of Dodge.

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: patentlymn on June 13, 2019, 12:47:31 PM
I read that ebola has a mean incubation period of 12 days, ranging from 2 to 21 days. The Congolese reaching TX have travelled from Africa to Brazil, at least according to one guy in TX. The northward.
It seems so far that the travel time is longer than the incubation period so Brazil is more likely to get hit than the US for now. Any direct Africa to TX or MX flights could change all that.

Who is paying for this travel?
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on June 13, 2019, 03:31:50 PM
The lamestream media sure isn't .......... hmmm, maybe if it's here and spreads, they will report it to make Trump look bad.

If they don't, what do y'all figure we should be watching for?

Any watching by definition is way too late...and any news to be had via MFM is only going to be coming out if in some way the demonized groups (Trump, Trump people, Trump supporters...non-demonazi white hetero Christian males and such) can be blamed.

The public likely will be universally uninformed.  But if reports via family, friends, co-workers...friends of friends & family in the border patrol or militia, construction workers on the wall...fedcoat agency types hear/see sick illegals being carted away in full hazmat containment procedures (or they and their families go off work unannounced and out of town)...hospital workers and odd patient quarantines or workers quitting suddenly or even dying suddenly...or like in the depths of the Cold War VIPs disappearing from public view or seen hauling ass out of town/into bunkers. 

Again, for most...this is too late, patient zero beget patients too many!

The fedcoats will not want to cause a panic until they themselves are out of Dodge.

You're one of a kind, Libs.  First you wrote it's too late for watching, then you proceeded to answer, in your opinion, what to watch for.   ::kissface::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on June 13, 2019, 03:32:57 PM
I read that ebola has a mean incubation period of 12 days, ranging from 2 to 21 days. The Congolese reaching TX have travelled from Africa to Brazil, at least according to one guy in TX. The northward.
It seems so far that the travel time is longer than the incubation period so Brazil is more likely to get hit than the US for now. Any direct Africa to TX or MX flights could change all that.

Who is paying for this travel?

One of Satan's minions, who want us all dead.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Alphabet Soup on June 13, 2019, 04:31:02 PM
The lamestream media sure isn't .......... hmmm, maybe if it's here and spreads, they will report it to make Trump look bad.

If they don't, what do y'all figure we should be watching for?

Any watching by definition is way too late...and any news to be had via MFM is only going to be coming out if in some way the demonized groups (Trump, Trump people, Trump supporters...non-demonazi white hetero Christian males and such) can be blamed.

The public likely will be universally uninformed.  But if reports via family, friends, co-workers...friends of friends & family in the border patrol or militia, construction workers on the wall...fedcoat agency types hear/see sick illegals being carted away in full hazmat containment procedures (or they and their families go off work unannounced and out of town)...hospital workers and odd patient quarantines or workers quitting suddenly or even dying suddenly...or like in the depths of the Cold War VIPs disappearing from public view or seen hauling ass out of town/into bunkers. 

Again, for most...this is too late, patient zero beget patients too many!

The fedcoats will not want to cause a panic until they themselves are out of Dodge.

You're one of a kind, Libs.  First you wrote it's too late for watching, then you proceeded to answer, in your opinion, what to watch for.   ::kissface::

That's for in case anyone at home is keeping score.

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on June 13, 2019, 10:03:24 PM
Despite some monumentally asinine carping from world-class trolls on several sites, all I've done is consolidated and condensed current information on Ebola, and I present it with the bark on, and reality settings turned up to 100%.

Which is why I get it right, early, more frequently than the acknowledged "experts". I also don't have anybody's @$$ to kiss.

Someone asked me where I'd gotten it into my head that fever was not a component in a yuuuuuge percentage of cases.

I could tell you "Trust me" but that would be b.s.

So instead, I tracked back my quotes, posts, and comments on other blogs, to pin down when and where that factoid came to be.

Here you go:

    "In addition, around 50% of confirmed cases do not present fever symptoms which hinders their detection in health facilities and increase the risk of exposure for health workers." - WHO 10/26/2018 Outbreak Summary, p.3 (bottom of page) emphasis mine -A.}
(http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/trust-but-verify.html)

And, you know, read the rest.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 17, 2019, 06:54:28 AM
The lamestream media sure isn't .......... hmmm, maybe if it's here and spreads, they will report it to make Trump look bad.

If they don't, what do y'all figure we should be watching for?

Any watching by definition is way too late...and any news to be had via MFM is only going to be coming out if in some way the demonized groups (Trump, Trump people, Trump supporters...non-demonazi white hetero Christian males and such) can be blamed.

The public likely will be universally uninformed.  But if reports via family, friends, co-workers...friends of friends & family in the border patrol or militia, construction workers on the wall...fedcoat agency types hear/see sick illegals being carted away in full hazmat containment procedures (or they and their families go off work unannounced and out of town)...hospital workers and odd patient quarantines or workers quitting suddenly or even dying suddenly...or like in the depths of the Cold War VIPs disappearing from public view or seen hauling ass out of town/into bunkers. 

Again, for most...this is too late, patient zero beget patients too many!

The fedcoats will not want to cause a panic until they themselves are out of Dodge.

You're one of a kind, Libs.  First you wrote it's too late for watching, then you proceeded to answer, in your opinion, what to watch for.   ::kissface::

Was my cynicism hanging out for all to see again?!   I plead guilty.   ::hat-tip::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 17, 2019, 06:57:20 AM
I read that ebola has a mean incubation period of 12 days, ranging from 2 to 21 days. The Congolese reaching TX have travelled from Africa to Brazil, at least according to one guy in TX. The northward.
It seems so far that the travel time is longer than the incubation period so Brazil is more likely to get hit than the US for now. Any direct Africa to TX or MX flights could change all that.

Who is paying for this travel?

One of Satan's minions, who want us all dead.

Follow the money....point of origin in most cases one way or another lead to Darth Soros...largest bagman for fascisti across the globe and bakroller of useful idiots, front groups and invaders of all stripes!

ETA - SITYS!

https://www.theamericanmirror.com/africans-coming-across-southern-border-have-rolls-of-100-bills/ (https://www.theamericanmirror.com/africans-coming-across-southern-border-have-rolls-of-100-bills/)

 ::cussing::  Soros!!!

 ::machinegun::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 17, 2019, 06:58:06 AM
The lamestream media sure isn't .......... hmmm, maybe if it's here and spreads, they will report it to make Trump look bad.

If they don't, what do y'all figure we should be watching for?

Any watching by definition is way too late...and any news to be had via MFM is only going to be coming out if in some way the demonized groups (Trump, Trump people, Trump supporters...non-demonazi white hetero Christian males and such) can be blamed.

The public likely will be universally uninformed.  But if reports via family, friends, co-workers...friends of friends & family in the border patrol or militia, construction workers on the wall...fedcoat agency types hear/see sick illegals being carted away in full hazmat containment procedures (or they and their families go off work unannounced and out of town)...hospital workers and odd patient quarantines or workers quitting suddenly or even dying suddenly...or like in the depths of the Cold War VIPs disappearing from public view or seen hauling ass out of town/into bunkers. 

Again, for most...this is too late, patient zero beget patients too many!

The fedcoats will not want to cause a panic until they themselves are out of Dodge.

You're one of a kind, Libs.  First you wrote it's too late for watching, then you proceeded to answer, in your opinion, what to watch for.   ::kissface::

That's for in case anyone at home is keeping score.

 ::popcorn::

That too.   ;)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on June 17, 2019, 07:01:27 AM
Despite some monumentally asinine carping from world-class trolls on several sites, all I've done is consolidated and condensed current information on Ebola, and I present it with the bark on, and reality settings turned up to 100%.

Which is why I get it right, early, more frequently than the acknowledged "experts". I also don't have anybody's @$$ to kiss.

Someone asked me where I'd gotten it into my head that fever was not a component in a yuuuuuge percentage of cases.

I could tell you "Trust me" but that would be b.s.

So instead, I tracked back my quotes, posts, and comments on other blogs, to pin down when and where that factoid came to be.

Here you go:

    "In addition, around 50% of confirmed cases do not present fever symptoms which hinders their detection in health facilities and increase the risk of exposure for health workers." - WHO 10/26/2018 Outbreak Summary, p.3 (bottom of page) emphasis mine -A.}
(http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/trust-but-verify.html)

And, you know, read the rest.

Oh this is doing wonders for my cynicism...it's cementing it!

You know your Fedcoat bureaucrats aren't worth two-shakes of dribble when the U effn'n N is more honest than the CDC!   And to double-up the suicidal insanity allow open travel and porous borders.

The bureaucratic overlords of the DeepState are eager for death...ours...I say get them before they get us!!!
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: patentlymn on June 17, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
All it takes is some Jihadi infectng some person before they get on the plane bound for the US.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on July 18, 2019, 09:38:13 PM
From Aesop:

Quote
Here's your handy link (https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/search/label/Ebola) to everything I've ever written about Ebola, that I thusly tagged.

... It will work going forward, as long as Blogger is a going concern as well.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: IronDioPriest on July 19, 2019, 10:17:47 AM
Unlike Hussein O, I’m certain that Trump will not allow them into the country.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on July 19, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
Unlike Hussein O, I’m certain that Trump will not allow them into the country.

He will try...the good people he has will try...

But all it takes is one acolyte of the conspirators in the bureaucracy to let someone slip in...full-frontal intentional or through some misguided obedience to pre-programmed political correctness...doesn't matter, damage done.

And in no way shape or form is the CDC and our nations hospitals adequately prepared for a real outbreak.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on July 19, 2019, 12:38:31 PM
Unlike Hussein O, I’m certain that Trump will not allow them into the country.

June 7, 2019 --

Quote
Hundreds of African migrants have been arrested in Texas after a “dramatic rise” in arrivals at the southern US border, according to patrol agents.

More from 500 people from African countries were detained near the frontier city of Del Rio in the past week, said US Customs and Border Protection (CBP), which warned of a “humanitarian crisis”.

Most were families from the Republic of the Congo, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Angola.

“The introduction of this new population places additional burdens on processing stations, to include language and cultural differences,” said Del Rio sector chief patrol agent Raul Ortiz.

The recent arrivals included a group of 116 migrants detained after arriving at the southern US border late on 30 May.

“This large group from Africa further demonstrates the complexity and severity of the border security and humanitarian crisis at our southwest border,” Mr Ortiz added.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-border-mexico-immigration-africa-trump-congo-angola-a8948241.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-border-mexico-immigration-africa-trump-congo-angola-a8948241.html)

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At least 300 African migrants have also travelled on to San Antonio, Texas, about 150 miles from Del Rio, with hundreds more expected in the next few days.

San Antonio’s city government has opened two support centres for those travelling and is working with local charities to provide food and emergency shelter.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on August 21, 2019, 08:16:42 AM
I'm sure all is...still...well...

Ahh...umm...wait a sec...

The U.S. federal government continues to quietly put out a call for Ebola screeners at airports including Dulles International Airport in the Washington area, as migrants from an Ebola-afflicted region in Africa settle in the United States.

The job “EMT, Ebola Airport Screener” has a very straightforward job description: “To screen passengers that have traveled back from Ebola-affected nations. This will include checking vital signs, temperature and having passengers fill out questionnaires. This will include tracking and reporting all recovered results.”

The job listing is posted on Careerbuilder.com and LinkedIn by Caduceus Healthcare.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/preparations-quietly-made-to-screen-for-ebola-at-us-airports_3048016.html?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newslink&utm_term=members&utm_content=20190821114455 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/preparations-quietly-made-to-screen-for-ebola-at-us-airports_3048016.html?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newslink&utm_term=members&utm_content=20190821114455)

...oh yeah, this'll work...everything will be just fine...

/

Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on August 28, 2019, 10:09:35 AM
https://www.wired.com/story/ebola-is-now-curable-heres-how-the-new-treatments-work/ (https://www.wired.com/story/ebola-is-now-curable-heres-how-the-new-treatments-work/)
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on August 28, 2019, 11:18:23 AM
Soooooo.......

Mortality rate dropping from 75% to whatever...not zero...is a flat-out "cure"?

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4120c7976e317682a08167b16647687d9679b5b43d393fef21072352f1a6be6f.jpg)

100% eradication at any stage of infection would be considered "a cure", everything else is merely a "better treatment" until "a cure" is found...right direction, wrong language.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: John Florida on August 28, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
  If it's so curable take off the hasmat crap and prove it. I doubt they would ever do it.
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2019, 09:47:35 AM
There seems to be some increasing preparedness in healthcare circles for generic emergencies now too...which the public is meant to be blissfully unaware of...that naturally is not connected to anything specific...
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on February 15, 2021, 09:19:14 AM
Meanwhile...with all eyes distracted by the Trojan Horse euphemistically called the COVID-19 vaccine...a real deadly virus re-emergences on the dark continent...

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/new-ebola-outbreak-deaths-west-africa-declared-epidemic-situation (https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/new-ebola-outbreak-deaths-west-africa-declared-epidemic-situation)

...nothing to see here, get your f**king mask back on, peasant!

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Pandora on February 15, 2021, 10:56:38 AM
Oh gawdamit!
Title: Re: Ebola Outbreak
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2021, 08:27:39 AM
Yeah, and you know when those Beijing Bitches at WHO jump in...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-issues-alert-six-african-nations-after-recent-ebola-outbreaks (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-issues-alert-six-african-nations-after-recent-ebola-outbreaks)

...you know something went from maybe to oh, sh!t quickly...

"prepare and look"

Yeah, those Chi-Com arse-worshippers are indispensable, aren't they?   ::)

 ::asskicking::