Author Topic: Apple Head Admits Profit is Not Top Priority (Read 3625 times)

Libertas · « **on:** March 03, 2014, 11:37:14 AM »

Of course he needed prodding by those rascally climate change denying right-wing nutjobs to admit it.

IMO more of this is needed, make proglodytes heads snap, make 'em angry...how else are we to get the truth out of them (that is until we can beat them silly)?!

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/apples-tim-cook-business-isnt-just-about-making-a-profit-9163931.html

Apple!

Pandora · « **Reply #1 on:** March 03, 2014, 12:30:05 PM »

Another a-hole whose idea of "sustainability" does not comport with reality.

ToddF · « **Reply #2 on:** March 03, 2014, 12:59:38 PM »

The company is going to plummet as fast as it did the first time, without Jobs.

iCrap without iJobs nurturing the iCult is just crap.

Glock32 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 03, 2014, 01:02:00 PM »

Wants to lecture on sustainability, while their products are put together by slaves in Chinese factory-prisons. Not only are they put together by slaves, but done so in a country with virtually non-existent environmental regulation on the industrial byproducts. Then the cherry on top of this sustainability sundae is that all those products put together by slaves in factories that belch and dump byproducts directly into the environment, all those products are then transported to the other side of the planet for consumption.

But hey, at least they're Designed in California.

warpmine · « **Reply #4 on:** March 03, 2014, 04:56:20 PM »

Quote from: Glock32 on March 03, 2014, 01:02:00 PM

Wants to lecture on sustainability, while their products are put together by slaves in Chinese factory-prisons. Not only are they put together by slaves, but done so in a country with virtually non-existent environmental regulation on the industrial byproducts. Then the cherry on top of this sustainability sundae is that all those products put together by slaves in factories that belch and dump byproducts directly into the environment, all those products are then transported to the other side of the planet for consumption.

But hey, at least they're Designed in California.

Can't argue with facts, Bravo Glock!

AlanS · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2014, 05:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Glock32 on March 03, 2014, 01:02:00 PM

Wants to lecture on sustainability, while their products are put together by slaves in Chinese factory-prisons. Not only are they put together by slaves, but done so in a country with virtually non-existent environmental regulation on the industrial byproducts. Then the cherry on top of this sustainability sundae is that all those products put together by slaves in factories that belch and dump byproducts directly into the environment, all those products are then transported to the other side of the planet for consumption.

But hey, at least they're Designed in California.

Now you've done it. I can just see the Apple faithful heads exploding.

Pandora · « **Reply #6 on:** March 03, 2014, 06:49:04 PM »

Quote from: Glock32 on March 03, 2014, 01:02:00 PM

Wants to lecture on sustainability, while their products are put together by slaves in Chinese factory-prisons. Not only are they put together by slaves, but done so in a country with virtually non-existent environmental regulation on the industrial byproducts. Then the cherry on top of this sustainability sundae is that all those products put together by slaves in factories that belch and dump byproducts directly into the environment, all those products are then transported to the other side of the planet for consumption.

But hey, at least they're Designed in California.

Not to mention the battery replacement issue, namely: you can't do it.

trapeze · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2014, 06:55:23 PM »

Sadly, almost all computer products are made overseas by people making next to nothing for the effort.

Personally, I think that Tim Cook is pretty stupid to have said such a thing. In a sane world the Apple stockholders would have his head for uttering such BS. It's an axiom of business that you don't alienate customers because the money is the same color regardless of who's wallet it was in.

Nevertheless, I will continue to buy and use Apple products until something better comes along. I have sworn off GM Chrysler products because of the illegal bailout but that's only because there is a viable alternative in the form of Ford which did not get into bed with King Putt. If GM was a vastly superior maker of vehicles (imagine a world with only GM and AMC cars) then I would be forced to patronize them even though I didn't like their politics.

IronDioPriest · « **Reply #8 on:** March 03, 2014, 08:01:50 PM »

I think I've mentioned before that a good friend used to be a marketing exec for one of the major coffee shop chains. They recruited him, and only after he was hired did he discover that the CEO was a liberal of just this kind.

This guy would engage his upper management people with a mission statement that highlighted sustainable farming, aiding 3rd world farmers and economies, multiculturalism, yadda-yadda-yadda. He would come right out and say "our company is not about profit."

My friend had the balls at one of these meetings to note that without profit, all these other corporate ideals were impossible, and thus, profit should be the primary goal from which all other corporate goals logically flow. He was brushed off with a nod of dismissal.

He stayed there for quite a while because he's damned good at what he does. But eventually he moved on of his own volition.

Liberals are f***ing morons.

Pandora · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2014, 09:15:05 PM »

Jobs is gone and Cook will run the company right into the ground, bet on it. Loyalists like trapeze won't be enough to save it either.

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My friend had the balls at one of these meetings to note that without profit, all these other corporate ideals were impossible, and thus, profit should be the primary goal from which all other corporate goals logically flow.

So true. Also true is Thatcher's observation: socialism only works so long as it can employ other people's money; in this case, it's socialism eating capitalism's host body until there's nothing left.

When the questioner from the NCPPR brought up the fact that Apple's great renewable and sustainable energy projects were heavily subsidized by taxpayer money -- and queried if Cook would continue them if the subsidies, thus the profitability, ceased -- is when the CEO lost his sht.

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I have sworn off GM Chrysler products because of the illegal bailout but that's only because there is a viable alternative in the form of Ford which did not get into bed with King Putt. If GM was a vastly superior maker of vehicles (imagine a world with only GM and AMC cars) then I would be forced to patronize them even though I didn't like their politics.

There's the problem right there. The Bigs have enough money -- and gummint running interference -- to obstruct the start-ups, which may have better ideas and products, right out of the market. Sucks to be us.

trapeze · « **Reply #10 on:** March 04, 2014, 12:04:22 AM »

But I'm not a loyalist. Right now, in my opinion, Apple makes the best quality computer products for personal use. Period. I have stated on two or three occasions here why I won't go back.

I suppose it is possible for Apple to take a dump on itself and start making crap but they would really have to work on it. Their stuff is the best. The alternative would be for the PC makers to raise the quality of the stuff they sell. A lot. If they did I would buy their stuff.

It really isn't any more complicated than that for me. I don't like to waste my time on computer BS. I want something that works and right now that product is Apple. Show me a laptop that lasts for more than two years without literally falling apart regardless of how well you take care of it. I used PCs for years and they sucked. Didn't matter what brand they were they all sucked. Right now mrs. trapeze is using my first MacBook which has got to be around five years old now. I put a new battery and a new hard drive in it. The battery wore out and the original drive got filled up. I think I doubled it up on memory, too. The only real repair it has ever had is the replacement of a minor circuit board that controls the charging of the battery...cost me around $175.

I will leave Apple in a heartbeat for something/anything that is better. Cheaper would be nice but it has to be better. Or, at the very least, it has to be as good.

It is absolutely moronic to alienate a potential buyer of anything. It's just plain stupid. I gave up on Coke after they very publicly started in on that AGW/save the (not) endangered polar bear crap...switched to Pepsi. I know that Pepsi is going to be every bit as lib as Coke but at least they aren't rubbing my nose in it. And the quality of the product is good enough that I don't care about leaving Coke.

And there are lots of other products out there that I will or will not buy based on a complicated mixture of quality and politics...don't ask me to explain it, it's some weird calculus that I can't explain easily but it makes sense to me.

AlanS · « **Reply #11 on:** March 04, 2014, 05:39:07 AM »

I have never had problems with PC's. But I'm part computer geek. My wife, on the other hand, is ALWAYS having problems with her desktop computer. Normally I refuse to pay 20% more just for software since Apple uses the same hardware, but her next computer will be an Apple.

Not to mention her desktop came with Windows 8.

ToddF · « **Reply #12 on:** March 04, 2014, 08:06:18 AM »

I put together my own PCs so they tend to have quality parts.

Glock32 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 04, 2014, 01:32:14 PM »

Quote from: MNHawk on March 04, 2014, 08:06:18 AM

I put together my own PCs so they tend to have quality parts.

Same here. My home built desktops average 5-6 years for me. I end up replacing them only because of faster technology, not because of any failures. If you look in the average factory built desktop computer, they're really putting a bunch of el-cheapo components in them. My parents have a HP desktop that has been a decent enough computer for their needs, but I have replaced the power supply on it literally 2 or 3 times now.

warpmine · « **Reply #14 on:** March 04, 2014, 07:58:38 PM »

Quote from: Glock32 on March 04, 2014, 01:32:14 PM

Quote from: MNHawk on March 04, 2014, 08:06:18 AM
I put together my own PCs so they tend to have quality parts.

Same here. My home built desktops average 5-6 years for me. I end up replacing them only because of faster technology, not because of any failures. If you look in the average factory built desktop computer, they're really putting a bunch of el-cheapo components in them. My parents have a HP desktop that has been a decent enough computer for their needs, but I have replaced the power supply on it literally 2 or 3 times now.

I can attest the power supply on those HP's really suck. Had one made(I assembled it) to say I could and it's been with me for a while now. Still using Win 7 and thus far has served my limited means well. The 1 tb hard drive is a waste as I never use it.

AlanS · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2014, 05:04:24 AM »

Quote from: warpmine on March 04, 2014, 07:58:38 PM

The 1 tb hard drive is a waste as I never use it.

But a 1tb back up drive is indispensable. Especially the way my wife collects pics.

Pablo de Fleurs · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:47:30 AM »

While profits may not be top priority...Tim Cook has announced a new product in development by their backdoor computing division...

...the iProd.

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(#HowDyaLikeThemApples?)

AmericanPatriot · « **Reply #17 on:** October 31, 2014, 07:42:40 AM »

Backdoor computing?

So that's what they call it now.

Now that he's come that he's queer, is that what they call it now?

Predator Don · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2014, 03:19:13 PM »

Listen....all liberals lie. By making a statement that profit is not his "top" priority, he gets cover. They have billions in the bank. Not bad for a non profit. He is a liar.

richb · « **Reply #19 on:** November 01, 2014, 12:57:42 AM »

Frankly its easy to say that profit is not the top priority, when your running one of the most profitable companies on the planet.

Typing this on an imac.