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Topics => History => Topic started by: Glock32 on October 29, 2012, 10:56:40 AM

Title: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Glock32 on October 29, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
A replica of the infamous HMS Bounty has sunk 90 miles offshore of North Carolina in heavy seas produced by Hurricane Sandy.  14 of the crew were rescued, 2 remain missing.  I have to wonder though, why did they take an unpowered sailing ship out into the Atlantic while a hurricane was churning up the Eastern seaboard?  Haven't they been talking about this storm since it was in the Caribbean and before it even became a hurricane?

Hopefully the two missing will be located.  It seems the ship did at least have canopied life rafts.


http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/10/29/coast-guard-monitoring-tall-ship-in-distress-off-north-carolina-with-17-aboard/ (http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/10/29/coast-guard-monitoring-tall-ship-in-distress-off-north-carolina-with-17-aboard/)
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
 ::whatgives::

 ::facepalm::

HMS Darwin?

 ::)
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 29, 2012, 01:14:25 PM
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The director of the HMS Bounty Organization, Tracie Simonin, told the Associated Press that the ship left Connecticut last week for St. Petersburg, Fla.
 
"They were staying in constant contact with the National Hurricane Center," she said. "They were trying to make it around the storm."

...at the time of the distress call the ship was taking on two feet of water an hour. Parker said the crew abandoned ship into canopied, rubber life rafts with about 10 feet of water on board.
 
The ship, which had been taking on water and was without propulsion, is a replica of the one made famous in the 1960 MGM film "Mutiny on the Bounty" and it was used in that film, which starred Marlin Brando. It was also used in the film "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest


real life...
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: benb61 on October 29, 2012, 07:07:39 PM
Good thing that the Coast Guard didn't have to ask obama for permission to rescue these 16 souls.  They all would have been lost instead of just 2.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: LadyVirginia on October 29, 2012, 10:40:45 PM
Good thing that the Coast Guard didn't have to ask obama for permission to rescue these 16 souls.  They all would have been lost instead of just 2.


yep.

 
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Glock32 on October 29, 2012, 11:11:27 PM
Reports are now that one person is dead.  The missing crewman is probably dead too, unfortunately.  I'm still a bit mystified why they tried to make this trip with a large hurricane off the Eastern seaboard, especially one that was almost unanimously predicted to ride right up the coastline. Perhaps they were worried about it being damaged in port.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 06:54:59 AM
Reports are now that one person is dead.  The missing crewman is probably dead too, unfortunately.  I'm still a bit mystified why they tried to make this trip with a large hurricane off the Eastern seaboard, especially one that was almost unanimously predicted to ride right up the coastline. Perhaps they were worried about it being damaged in port.

That's what I heard on the radio this morning, worried it would have been battered in port, so they tried to slip out the back door and I think head back down Florida way, either the route was poor, poorly timed or just a bad idea (likely all of the above).

Too bad.  Hopefully they find the other fellow, for the sake of the family.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Glock32 on October 30, 2012, 11:21:12 AM
There were 18 foot seas at the time.  Not monstrous, but pretty bad for an old wooden sailing ship I'm sure.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 11:32:44 AM
There were 18 foot seas at the time.  Not monstrous, but pretty bad for an old wooden sailing ship I'm sure.

Not an easy thing to steer into the wind and take the waves bow first.  Tacking into angry waves with a slow-responding old wooden ship would not be high on my bucket list.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 30, 2012, 11:41:58 AM

http://www.easternyachts.com/bounty/specifications.htm (http://www.easternyachts.com/bounty/specifications.htm)

Good sized vessel; it will be and interesting story, what happened.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 11:46:52 AM
Ahh, she sported some engines 'neath her skirt then, makes the demise much more curious, sea must have been even more nasty than they thought.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: charlesoakwood on October 30, 2012, 11:53:09 AM

Yeah, she lost her rigging and engines, it causes one to question the professionalism of the crew.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2012, 12:04:50 PM

Yeah, she lost her rigging and engines, it causes one to question the professionalism of the crew.


Wasn't going to go there, I assume they have some experienced people, but in really rough seas even the most experienced sailors can be stressed beyond thier abilities to cope.  I think the better part of valor would have been to stay in port, at least that way perhaps even if damaged, she could have been salvaged, and nobody would have had their life in peril.
Title: Re: replica of HMS Bounty sinks off North Carolina
Post by: Glock32 on October 30, 2012, 04:38:36 PM
Water depths in that area are over 2,000 meters so I guess that makes salvaging her pretty much impossible.