Occupy L.A. Speaker: “One of the speakers said the solution is nonviolent movement. No, my friend. I’ll give you two examples: French Revolution, and Indian so-called Revolution.
Gandhi, Gandhi today is, with respect to all of you, Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us. French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.
India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.
So, ultimately, the bourgeoisie won’t go without violent means. Revolution! Yes, revolution that is led by the working class.
Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”
Crowd: [Cheers.]
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Incredibly, he praises the massacres of the French Revolution’s Reign of Terror rather than Gandhi’s nonviolent philosophy.
And the crowd laps it up.
Every single day, more videos emerge from the Occupy movement showing people saying things that, if they had been said by a Tea Partier, would have been front-page news for weeks and discredited the movement forever. But since it’s the Occupy Wall Street movement, darlings of the media and Democratic politicians, they get a pass.
Plus winding up with a Napoleon might suck too...or maybe this rabble doesn't think so...doesn't appear many are capable of breaking above moron-level IQ...
Plus winding up with a Napoleon might suck too...or maybe this rabble doesn't think so...doesn't appear many are capable of breaking above moron-level IQ...
I thought that's what we have in the Golfer~in~chief... ::eyes::
So the big story on most of the news aggregaters right at the moment is the impending showdown between the Wall Street Invaders and a scrub-brush. Most observers on the scene say that the brushes don't stand a chance.
As a show of solidarity with the filthy commies, I have pledged not to stomp the crap outta any of them (unless they piss me off).
Yeah, you can't have a few pigs about without having bureacrats threatening fines and imprisonment, so raw human waste (not just the people themselves, their output too) has to be violating several statutes.
Excellent American Thinker piece, BMG; thanks for the pointer.
Where conservatives can envision resistance to only a government that has destroyed the Constitution, progressives now advocate armed rebellion against a government that won't destroy the Constitution.
What is scary and what really amazes me however, is that the Leftists are openly advocating violent revolution in the left leaning news on TV and in print. I mean, it's one thing if some nut-job on a blog or out in a crowd says something like that. It's quite another if the nut-job is in a position to say something like to a million people at once. They have been since at least just before the 2010 midterms. The President has even used to the 'bully' pulpit to advocate such things, albeit subtly. That is what's scary and is what keeps me thinking that a (shooting) civil war in this country is coming sooner rather than later. I believe we're in the middle of a (non-shooting) civil war now and have been for a few decades - but I don't think it's going to take much more to boil over.
Hope I'm wrong, but all the stars are aligning here...
Bottom up Top down Inside-out Van Jones::gaah::Bring it on L'l Man ::rockets::
Though not quite the same as actively calling for violence, this article is still related in that, by faking injury at the hands of the authorities, they are attempting to inflame anger toward the authorities and thereby, incite violence just the same.
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=30720 (http://www.verumserum.com/?p=30720)
I just don't see anybody willing to die for that. Taking a crap in Zuccotti Park and vandalizing cop cars is about as far as most of them are willing to go.
I just don't see anybody willing to die for that. Taking a crap in Zuccotti Park and vandalizing cop cars is about as far as most of them are willing to go.
And they'll live off that "glory" for the rest of their lives.
I just don't see anybody willing to die for that. Taking a crap in Zuccotti Park and vandalizing cop cars is about as far as most of them are willing to go.
And they'll live off that "glory" for the rest of their lives.
Flash forward thirty years . . .
Hey man, were you at Z Park in '11?
Dude, it was awesome . . .
Yeah. Good times . . .
LMAO
Radio says Noam Chompski, Bill Moyers, and others are emailing and advising the OWS.
Isn't he serving the pizza and tofu?
I do wonder from whence the food comes. "It just appears and we eat it".
I’ve been spending as much time as I can down at Occupy Wall Street, listening to the speeches, reading the literature, talking to the organizers. Here’s something to keep in mind: You’ll hear in a lot of the conservative media that this is some kind of socialist/communist enterprise piggybacking on a populist protest. In reality, it is much worse than even most of the conservative media is reporting.
“I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”
At one point yesterday, Wyman and other volunteers briefly scuffled with a man who was standing near a park entrance with a pail calling out: “Donations! Donations!” -- and pocketing the cash people tossed in the bucket.
This just being put up at HotAir and AoS:
Protestors discover that it sucks when someone takes your personal property. Irony defined. (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/criminal_occupation_oh3CnKANUqYHrGPCaZaLRK)Quote“I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”
I wonder if the democrats that have openly embraced this crowd will start back peddling anytime soon...
QuoteI wonder if the democrats that have openly embraced this crowd will start back peddling anytime soon...
Hrm, are they already starting to backpedal? (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/18/obama-passes-meeting-occupy-activists/)
They say, of the original settlers traveling west the gunshot wounds
they most often died from were self inflicted. Not suicidal, just ignorant
of fundamental operation.
Opie was confronted and surrounded by more than two dozen of the protesters, chanting “Pervert, pervert, pervert!“ This is classic ”Alinsky” – In fact, it is right out of Alinsky’s book “Rules for Radicals” – he taught his followers to:
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
Once the target is identified, you freeze it with an accusation so heinous that it must be defended or refuted before anything else can be addressed. The quickest way to run off a nosy photographer is to accuse him of being a pervert. If two dozen or more people start chanting it, the mob mentality can easily take over and trump the truth. Classic Alinsky.
This is just another piece of evidence pointing to the fact that the “Occupy” protests are not spontaneous (as is constantly being trumpeted by supporters on the Left), but rather a manufactured, planned action with paid, trained leaders embedded inside.
Now that I've read through this thread, I'm thoroughly depressed again. When will the cold civil war turn to armed encounters? Will these fleabaggers become part of Obama's youth corps mercenaries? If Obama suddenly gave them a bunch of fast and furious weapons, how quickly would they go rambo on banks? Big box stores? Quiet neighborhood streets?
Ugh...Makes. Me. Sick.
Now that I've read through this thread, I'm thoroughly depressed again. When will the cold civil war turn to armed encounters? Will these fleabaggers become part of Obama's youth corps mercenaries? If Obama suddenly gave them a bunch of fast and furious weapons, how quickly would they go rambo on banks? Big box stores? Quiet neighborhood streets?
Ugh...Makes. Me. Sick.
Whoa there Michelleo. Look at that bunch in the videos. They are too stoned, too lazy, too unorganized and too weak to start any armed insurrection. They want somebody else to do the violent takeover, then they figure they can just show up and get fed when the dust clears.
Let not you heart be troubled. OWS is nothing but street theatre made larger by the fawning liberal media.
Now that I've read through this thread, I'm thoroughly depressed again. When will the cold civil war turn to armed encounters? Will these fleabaggers become part of Obama's youth corps mercenaries? If Obama suddenly gave them a bunch of fast and furious weapons, how quickly would they go rambo on banks? Big box stores? Quiet neighborhood streets?
Ugh...Makes. Me. Sick.
Whoa there Michelleo. Look at that bunch in the videos. They are too stoned, too lazy, too unorganized and too weak to start any armed insurrection. They want somebody else to do the violent takeover, then they figure they can just show up and get fed when the dust clears.
Let not you heart be troubled. OWS is nothing but street theatre made larger by the fawning liberal media.
One Oakland police supervisor said that the participants first appeared to him as “freethinking activists” but have since devolved into something more sinister. He said it was “interesting for a group that claims to be against current civilization and rules to set up a far more oppressive society than our own.”
Our source, who is fearful of reprisal and has requested anonymity, says that KGO-TV’s Amy Hollyfield was accosted by a man who threatened her and used a racial slur:
“We shoot white bitches like you around here.”
According to our source, the Oakland Police Department was apparently called to the scene. Inquiries to the police, and to Hollyfield, which began at roughly 8 a.m. Pacific time yesterday, are still unanswered today.
A participant in the protest–who urged his Twitter followers to “punch a banker in the face” and called for the military to join the demonstrators–confirmed that the media had been banned from the Occupy Oakland site, but denied that the protest camp was unsafe.
Later, during the midday broadcasts, only KNTV, the local NBC affiliate, reported the unrest at the Occupy Oakland demonstration.
However, other local media outlets have begun to report the emerging violence of Occupy Oakland. The San Francisco Chronicle reported yesterday: ...
A participant in the protest–who urged his Twitter followers to “punch a banker in the face” and called for the military to join the demonstrators–confirmed that the media had been banned from the Occupy Oakland site, but denied that the protest camp was unsafe.
According to the YT video this is a NYU professor who is explaining his socialist dream of America to these hungry OWS protesters, encouraging them to overthrow capitalism and telling them that the only obstacle is the minority of the one percent:
UPDATE: The professor has been identified as Richard Wolff who teaches Marxian Economics.
He’s backed down twice before but the antagonism between him and the protesters seems to be peaking. At this point I suspect the movement would welcome a police crackdown somewhere to boost sympathy for the protesters. People are getting bored with the story and there are enough freak-show videos from the protests circulating to put off the middle-class supporters that they need.
Earlier in the day about 2,000 protesters rallying against what they see as economic inequality and corporate greed marched downtown toward the Capitol, setting up the most intense moments of the Denver movement, which has lasted weeks.
A group of the marchers advanced toward the building and some tried to make their way up the steps. About eight officers scuffled with a group of protesters and police confirmed that they used Mace and fired pepper balls - hollow projectiles filled with the chemical irritant - to break up the crowd. Protesters told the paper at the time that they believed police used rubber bullets.
Murray said protesters kicked police and knocked one officer off his motorcycle. He said five protesters were arrested, including two for assault and one for disobedience.
If you question their right to detain you, interrogate you, search you, invade your home, and so on, you are very likely to be tasered, physically assaulted, kidnapped, put in a cage, or shot. If a cop decides to treat you like livestock, whether he does it “legally” or not, you will usually have only two options: submit, or kill the cop. You can’t resist a cop “just a little” and get away with it. He will always call in more of his fellow gang members, until you are subdued or dead.
Basic logic dictates that you either have an obligation to LET “law enforcers” have their way with you, or you have the right to STOP them from doing so, which will almost always require killing them.
A protester, angered by the presence of a news crew inside Zuccotti Park Friday morning, threatened to stab Fox 5 News reporter John Huddy.
What has been an otherwise violence-free period during his six weeks covering the Occupy Wall Street movement, took a turn for John Huddy. He explained what happened during Good Day New York:
“This is somebody I’ve come across several times for the last few days. He threatened to stab me in the throat with a pen. He ripped the mic out of my hand,” said Huddy.
Armed citizen militia group US Border Guard is making its presence felt at the Occupy Phoenix demonstration to protect free speech rights, arguing that the second amendment prevents the state from abusing the first amendment.
The group has been labeled “neo-nazis” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is usually a demonization tactic, but the individual shown in the clip, “JT Ready” has attended neo-nazi rallies and is closely affiliated with the fringe National Socialist Party.
Alex Callinicos, a professor of European Studies at Kings College in London, announced to his rapt audience, “I am a Marxist.’’
Asked if the upcoming revolution can be non-violent, he parroted the party line of the demonstrators, who call themselves the 99 percent of Americans lined up against the “1 percent’’ with power and money.
He said violence could be avoided only if the “1 percent accept the decisions of the 99 percent,’’ which he predicted would never happen.
All this time I thought they wanted to help the downtrodden and homeless. ::laughonfloor::
“He’s got a right to express himself, you’ve got a right to express yourself,” I heard three cops repeat in recent days, using nearly identical language, when asked to intervene with troublemakers inside the park, including a clearly disturbed man screaming and singing wildly at 3 a.m. for the second straight night.
“The first time I’ve heard cops mention our First Amendment rights,” cracked one occupier after hearing a lieutenant read off of that apparent script.
“A lot of you people smell,” a waggish cop shot back later after an occupier asked if he might be able to help find more appropriate accommodations for a particularly pungent and out-of-sorts homeless man.
“The police are saying ‘it’s a free for all at Zuccotti so you can go there,’” said Daniel Zetah, a member of several working groups including community affairs. “Which makes our job harder and harder because the ratio is worse and worse.”
All this time I thought they wanted to help the downtrodden and homeless. ::laughonfloor::
All this time I thought they wanted to help the downtrodden and homeless. ::laughonfloor::
Only the "Elite Downtrodden" .
All this time I thought they wanted to help the downtrodden and homeless. ::laughonfloor::
Q: You said a deaf guy was raped?
A: Yeah…
Q: Did the guy, I mean, do these, did that get reported to the police, or did that stay inside the camp?
A: Well, OK, I’m not sure for that particular incident. Yeah, no I–that might have stayed inside the camp.
She estimates there have been “at least ten” incidents of sexual assault and affirms that Occupy Wall Street has been “unsafe for women” for the past three to four weeks. She describes the failure of security measures taken by activists to police themselves, as well as the reluctance of New York Police Department officers to intervene.
FORT COLLINS, Colo. -- Police have arrested an Occupy Fort Collins protester in connection with a $10 million arson fire that damaged dozens of condominiums and businesses in Fort Collins.
Benjamin David Gilmore, 29, was arrested on Thursday night on suspicion of arson, burglary and criminal mischief.
OFC Spokeswoman Julia Crisafi said Benjamin Gilmore, who was part of the movement "since Day One," is a Ron Paul supporter. There has been friction between Paul supporters and other Occupy activists, whose views are "a little bit more extreme," she said.
I can already hear the Occupy Boston people saying the small splinter group that went to the Israeli consulate building doesn't represent all of Occupy Boston, and the Occupy Wall Street people saying that Occupy Boston doesn't represent all of the Occupy movement, and the anti-Israel protesters saying they aren't anti-Semites, they are just anti-Zionist or critical of the policies of the current Israeli government. And some of the rest of them saying that the anti-Israel protesters don't represent all of Occupy any more than Patrick Buchanan represents the entire Republican Party. But at a certain point, one has to wonder why these people are protesting Israel and not some far more abusive government like that of China, Iran, or Syria. I can already hear them saying that America doesn't give billions a year in aid to China, Iran, or Syria.
Still, the whole event illustrates the way the Occupy movement has become a forum for people to air whatever pre-existing grievance or agenda they have, even if it has nothing to do with Wall Street. And how readily a protest against bankers can elide into one against the Jewish state.
I would say that this video (http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/chaos-video/) at the Daily Caller is eye opening but it isn't. It chronicles the violence outside of the Americans For Prosperity conference in DC where the occupiers beat innocent women and prevented luxury cars from driving past.
United Steelworkers President Leo Gerard, speaking on radio host Ed Schultz's show last Monday, declared, "What we need is more militancy." Asked to clarify, Gerard said: "I think we've got to start a resistance movement. If Wall Street Occupation doesn't get the message, I think we've got to start blocking bridges and doing that kind of stuff."
The Canadian union leader then denounced Americans' 2008 election of Tea Party representatives to the House as "nut jobs," and called for more force and illegality: "We ought to be doing more than occupying parks. We ought to start occupying bridges. We ought to start occupying the banks' places themselves."
I would say that this video (http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/chaos-video/) at the Daily Caller is eye opening but it isn't. It chronicles the violence outside of the Americans For Prosperity conference in DC where the occupiers beat innocent women and prevented luxury cars from driving past.
I'd like to take a moment to console that fellow in Oakland who, when surrounded by OWSers beating on his Mercedes fled in flight. The two fellows in front of the car will survive.
Ya it is just a little toed in but should be fine in a week or so.I would say that this video (http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/chaos-video/) at the Daily Caller is eye opening but it isn't. It chronicles the violence outside of the Americans For Prosperity conference in DC where the occupiers beat innocent women and prevented luxury cars from driving past.
I'd like to take a moment to console that fellow in Oakland who, when surrounded by OWSers beating on his Mercedes fled in flight. The two fellows in front of the car will survive.
Is the car OK?? That poor thing must have been terrified. ::curtsy4::
Ya it is just a little toed in but should be fine in a week or so.I would say that this video (http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/chaos-video/) at the Daily Caller is eye opening but it isn't. It chronicles the violence outside of the Americans For Prosperity conference in DC where the occupiers beat innocent women and prevented luxury cars from driving past.
I'd like to take a moment to console that fellow in Oakland who, when surrounded by OWSers beating on his Mercedes fled in flight. The two fellows in front of the car will survive.
Is the car OK?? That poor thing must have been terrified. ::curtsy4::
::danceban:: ::laughonfloor:: ::hysterical::
DiGioia, who is from Clifton, NJ, was shocked to see her alleged attacker’s image in The Post about a week later -- and she identified him to the police.
She is now offering counsel to other victims, as new ones crop up every day.
“I just talked to two gentlemen who were raped last night, and they don’t want to press charges because [authorities] wanted to take them in an ambulance and . . . do a rape kit,” she said.
WTF pervert is going around raping other men? They have a religion of piece-er in their midst?
Occupy DC Protesters assaulted conservatives as they exited an Americans For Prosperity “Tribute to Ronald Reagan” dinner.
This elderly woman, 78 years old, rode 11 hrs on a bus from Detroit to attend the dinner. After the attack she was taken to hospital with multiple injuries, a bloody nose which developed after the fall, and a large knot on her head. After x-rays and a CAT scan, she was released the following morning with cuts and large bruises.
http://nation.foxnews.com/occupy-wall-street/2011/11/07/occupy-dc-goons-push-elderly-woman-down-stairs (http://nation.foxnews.com/occupy-wall-street/2011/11/07/occupy-dc-goons-push-elderly-woman-down-stairs)QuoteOccupy DC Protesters assaulted conservatives as they exited an Americans For Prosperity “Tribute to Ronald Reagan” dinner.
This elderly woman, 78 years old, rode 11 hrs on a bus from Detroit to attend the dinner. After the attack she was taken to hospital with multiple injuries, a bloody nose which developed after the fall, and a large knot on her head. After x-rays and a CAT scan, she was released the following morning with cuts and large bruises.
Can someone please remind me; when was it that the Tea Party beat up any elderly people?
WTF pervert is going around raping other men?
Uhh, it said "men"...it was probably Sandusky!
Uhh, it said "men"...it was probably Sandusky!
Would that be his Back Door Blitz package?
Statement from Chief Lanier Regarding Occupy DC
While the Occupy DC movement has been here since October 6, 2011 and the Metropolitan Police Department supports an individual’s right to assemble, we do not condone nor will we tolerate violence or aggression. Prior demonstrations had been peaceful. However, the aggressive nature of Friday’s demonstration prompted the Metropolitan Police Department to adjust tactics as needed to ensure safety.
MPD will continue to protect life (residents, visitors, protestors --everyone) and property as warranted. The administration will do what’s necessary to maintain order in the city and to ensure that everyone is safe.
Five people that we are aware of were injured. That is no longer a peaceful protest. Demonstrators have become increasingly confrontational and violent toward uninvolved bystanders and motorists. Demonstrators have also jeopardized the safety of their own children by using them in blockades. The following videos highlight such actions by demonstrators:
Intentionally Blocking Traffic/putting little children in the street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDsogOy2IU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDsogOy2IU)
Using little children to blockade the door
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CguFPFJAqlA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CguFPFJAqlA)
Demonstrators blockade doors and injure attendees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prgkEAuSQT0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prgkEAuSQT0)
Blockading people from leaving the Convention Center
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXXf56JhTbs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXXf56JhTbs)
According to witnesses, two men in the encampment got into an argument which escalated into gunfire. The victim was seen running away from the gunman, witnesses said. One bullet hit the Western Federal Credit Union.
The tent village is quiet as police and evidence technicians walk around with flashlights, searching for evidence, and 14th Street is closed while officers investigate. The occupiers were having a celebration to commemorate one month of their camp when the shooting occurred, and now many of them are relighting candles at a memorial set up for Scott Olsen, a former Marine and Iraq War veteran injured in an earlier rally.
Funny, this sort of thing hasn't happened at ANY TEA PARTY rallies...yet we're still maligned as a 'violent' movement.
Chaotic scene followed deadly shooting. Two news photographers were hurt by occupiers who attacked them as they tried to video tape the man who was shot.
OWS Protester: In a Few Days You’re Going to See What a Molotov Cocktail Can Do to Macy’s
Just in time for the Thanksgiving Day parade! The headlined quote comes at about a minute in, but there is plenty more of the sort of “non-violent” talk OWS has become known for leading up to this point.
Rather than just an unordered list, I was thinking it might be helpful to categorize the mayhem by type.
In the middle of thousands of protestors yelling and chanting — some kicking and screaming – CBS 2’s Emily Smith found little school kids trying to get to class. Nervous parents led them through the barriers on Wall Street. The NYPD helped funnel the children, anything to ease their fears while some protestors chanted “follow those kids!”
“These guys are terrorists, yelling at little kids,” one father said.
“For them it’s horrible. They’re afraid of all the crowds. We’re not even able to get through. They’re just, he’s … very afraid now,” a mother added.
One protester followed a father and his little daughter all the way down the block. As the school day ended just after 3 p.m. children trickled out of Leman Manhattan Prep on Broad Street. Smith heard a 4-year-old boy telling his mom he was scared. He told Smith it looked like a parade.
Video: Occupy Sympathizer Arrested for Threatening to Kill Gov. Nikki Haley
Authorities later told him he would be prosecuted and he surrendered himself as you can see in the clip above. The story goes on to note that a similar threat against the President (also made online) was judged to be free speech and not a genuine threat.
Professor West didn't just call for another war on poverty (the first war was fought by Lyndon B. Johnson), but went on to say that the push for more entitlements "is going to be fought in the streets." West showered the Occupy movement with praise for making people aware of the issue.
Professor West didn't just call for another war on poverty (the first war was fought by Lyndon B. Johnson), but went on to say that the push for more entitlements "is going to be fought in the streets." West showered the Occupy movement with praise for making people aware of the issue.
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.” - Robert Heinlein