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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #180 on: November 22, 2016, 11:22:17 AM »
I remind myself that he is not yet the president, and the things he intends to do have made him many enemies, so it is a very dangerous time for him right now. Floating something like this might be an insurance policy for the next 2 months.

Besides, if the DOJ under new AG Jeff Sessions continues its investigations and finds damning evidence, it's not like the ball is really in Trump's court anyway.

Even as cynical and pessimistic as I am, I am not yet clutching the pearls over stuff like this.
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #181 on: November 22, 2016, 01:45:23 PM »
Right; just wait and see what happens.  Time enough to grit teeth later.
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #182 on: November 22, 2016, 02:34:15 PM »
Frankly, I want her prosecuted. An example needs to be set. It's probably wise if Trump allows Sessions or other to do it and I wouldn't be surprised if all the play nice establishment types are  buying time to get their house of cards in order. A full blown investigation will get republicans too.....which is ok by me.
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #183 on: November 23, 2016, 07:16:00 PM »
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #184 on: November 24, 2016, 10:44:55 AM »
There are strategic reasons for Trump to say what he said.  Meanwhile, the Clinton's relevance keeps shrinking, as does any legacy they might have thought they had.  Pretty good, I'd say.
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #185 on: November 24, 2016, 11:21:08 AM »
I don't think letting her off squares with his pick of Jeff Sessions to head the Justice Department.  I still think this was a deflection.  He may even know that another Wikileaks drop is forthcoming.  I suspect that once he is in office, "powerful evidence that cannot be ignored" will come to light.

It's actually a rather crafty move because it also boxes Obama into a corner.  If he still issues a preemptive pardon for Hillary even after this supposed olive branch from Trump, that is an admission that he knows just how guilty she is.
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #186 on: November 27, 2016, 01:21:07 PM »
Sessions was Borked before we gave that political lynching a new verb.  I don't see him taking a pass on any evidence of wrongdoing by anybody, period.

And if O'Bongo wants to see his ability to issue blanket pardons challenged in court I would love to see it.  We never hashed that out with Nixon.  Though years later even Bernstein, Ted Kennedy and such would say it was the right thing to do.  Again, this case was about a President, not a cabinet member.  One could argue a cabinet member being held to account by the normal process of justice does not warrant the level "national interest and healing" as citied in the Nixon case...and also there is the nature of the alleged crimes...Nixon's was largely on obstruction of justice, the same charge levelled at Bill Clinton...but the proceeding and result for each was different...why?  In the Hillary Clinton case there is much more widespread instances of compromised national security, corruption and cronyism...on a far grander scale that Nixon, and the national security aspect of her actions are much more serious than mere obstructionism.

And if O'Bongo goes the pardon route, she is sullied forever, and he daughter will bear some of that shame.  We saw the McKenna Interpretation in full play with Nixon -  In 1915 Supreme Court Justice Joseph McKenna ruled that a pardon “carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it.” (Burdick v United States) - Nixon was ruined, the pardon cemented his culpability beyond his ability to rehabilitate his reputation, Hillary Clinton would find it that way as well.

It has never been fully tested in court if a pardon can be issued before any charges are filed or any indictments made.  A blanket pardon of this nature falls more into the amnesty classification.

Article 2 Section 2 states at the end about Executive powers - "...and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

Over the years this power has been expanded in practice to include conditional pardons, commutations, forgiveness of remissions and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties.  For the latter events such as the Whiskey Rebellion, Civil War and Vietnam draft dodgers is most prominent.

The Heritage Foundation asserts that a pardon cannot be issued without a charge, but the courts have consistently refused to limit Presidential power in this area.  The murkiest issue of a President pardoning himself has not yet occurred, though Nixon people did consider it, but as it looked bad every which way given our Founding and history - a President declaring himself above the law and ruling on his own case - it was not seriously pursued.  That we end up with a latter day POTUS like Obama again could test that foundation.

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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #187 on: November 28, 2016, 09:06:26 AM »
In light of Clinton and the Progs spearheading the effort to deligitamize the Trump Admin before it is even sworn in...perhaps Trump should reconsider is statement about direct involvement in going after Hillary's criminal activity?

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=10570.msg159191#msg159191

And perhaps this is the first response, eh?

http://www.infowars.com/trump-to-pressure-foreign-leaders-to-probe-clinton-foundation/

Heh!  More, please!!!
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #188 on: December 02, 2016, 12:32:28 PM »


Yup, evidence is out there, still.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/310859-fbi-still-holding-huma-abedins-emails/

I look forward to modifying this thread title a tad in the coming weeks!   ::whoohoo::

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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #189 on: December 16, 2016, 11:35:33 AM »
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #190 on: December 28, 2016, 08:22:56 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-clinton-emails-idUSKBN14G1M4?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=586301b204d301629890da79&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

It is stunning how hard it is to investigate, indict, try and convict a goddamned corrupt politician in this nation!

Banana Republic?  We are the banana!!!   ::outrage::
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #191 on: January 02, 2017, 01:06:32 PM »
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #192 on: January 09, 2017, 11:48:59 AM »
Another late night document dump of Clinton crud...

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/08/fbi-quietly-releases-300-pages-of-hillary-clinton-investigation-records/

...not the ripest of the rotted fruit...
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #193 on: January 19, 2017, 07:33:12 AM »
Waterboard this a-hole till he coughs up everything!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-18/doj-ordered-preserve-gmail-records-clinton-colluding-assistant-ag-peter-kadzik

What a Court orders and what a DemonRat does are often complete opposites...

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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #194 on: January 19, 2017, 07:57:40 PM »
SSDD.
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #195 on: March 14, 2017, 07:50:14 AM »
So, not "bleached"...tampered?

Will they ever see the light of day in an unaltered purity?   ::whatgives::

http://nypost.com/2016/11/04/fbi-finds-hillary-emails-on-weiners-laptop-and-theyre-not-duplicates/

One would think no body count could be too high to prevent anything in there to ever come out, eh?
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #196 on: March 17, 2017, 08:06:27 AM »
This I don't get...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/16/clinton-private-email-probe-hindered-by-state-department-chaffetz-says.html

...if some bureaucrat there is refusing orders, then they need to be canned, charged and prosecuted...period.
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #197 on: March 30, 2017, 07:54:46 AM »
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Re: This is my shocked face: no charges for Hillary
« Reply #199 on: May 03, 2017, 11:17:54 AM »
Effing Trump!

Effing Russians!

Effing Comey!

Effing Electoral College!

Effing...

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/new-huma-abedin-emails-reveal-29-previously-undisclosed-clinton-emails/

...uhh..umm...never mind!  Nothing to see here, move the f**k along!



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