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Will Texas Nullify Both NDAA and TSA?
« on: November 27, 2012, 10:04:20 PM »
The Texas legislature will take up two bills designed to protect basic civil liberties in the Lone Star State during the 2013 legislative session.

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The Texas Travel Freedom Act (House Bill 80) ... would make it a criminal act to intentionally touch “the anus, breast, buttocks, or sexual organ of the other person, including touching through clothing,” without probable cause in the process of determining whether to grant someone access to a public venue or means of public transportation.

The measure also forbids removing a child younger than 18 years of age from the physical custody or control of a parent or guardian. The act would put an end to the most intrusive pat-down searches conducted by the TSA.

... The Texas legislature will also consider a bill that would block any attempt to indefinitely detain people in Texas under sections of the National Defense Authorization Act.

... The legislation also provides for criminal penalties against any agent attempting to detain persons in Texas without due process under the NDAA. If passed, the law will effectively nullify federal indefinite detention in the Lone Star State.
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Re: Will Texas Nullify Both NDAA and TSA?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 10:22:04 PM »

Lew Tenant Governor David Dewhurst, recently defeated in the senatorial primary by Senator elect Ted Cruz, killed it before.  There is no reason to think he will not work to screw it up again.  He is a member of the club, in high standing, you know.

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Re: Will Texas Nullify Both NDAA and TSA?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 12:55:10 AM »
How on God's Earth did we get to the point where it is even up for debate whether the federal government is able to touch the anus, breast, buttocks, or sexual organ of the other person, including touching through clothing without probable cause? How did we come to a place and time where removing a child younger than 18 years of age from the physical custody or control of a parent or guardian can occur without the offender being shot or at least prosecuted?

It's gone on too long, and gone too far. If the American people will stand by for what this government has morphed into without lynching elected leaders who presume to treat citizens as subjects, the great experiment is over. The founders did their best, and we've failed them. Good on Texas for at least making noises and gestures in the general direction of outrage on behalf of liberty.
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Re: Will Texas Nullify Both NDAA and TSA?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 04:49:43 AM »
How on God's Earth did we get to the point where it is even up for debate whether the federal government is able to touch the anus, breast, buttocks, or sexual organ of the other person, including touching through clothing without probable cause? How did we come to a place and time where removing a child younger than 18 years of age from the physical custody or control of a parent or guardian can occur without the offender being shot or at least prosecuted?

It's gone on too long, and gone too far. If the American people will stand by for what this government has morphed into without lynching elected leaders who presume to treat citizens as subjects, the great experiment is over. The founders did their best, and we've failed them. Good on Texas for at least making noises and gestures in the general direction of outrage on behalf of liberty.

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"The statist hardliners win elections because they know Americans are timid. When frightened—and Americans are frightened of everything—they back away and the statists advance once again. It's said Americans imagine themselves the descendents of hardy pioneers. Pioneers were admirable folks in an admirable era, but truth is they'd have failed without the textile mills of Burlington or the nail factories of Wheeling or the rifle makers of Lancaster. In the end pioneers were settlers, and settlers require industrial support and lots of it. So did the colonists before them. Colonist to pioneer to condo committeeman, there's the real story, a devolution embarrassing to pioneers and stay-at-home yeomen alike.

The schools would be doing the nation a service if they produced more bullies. Americans are astonishingly faint-hearted, terrified of the least unpleasantness, which is why they want everybody to like them and "just get along." And like the proper hausfrau it aspires to be, America believes the real world is antiseptic and tidy by nature, merely in need of a diligent housekeeper. Men who knew better lie on the battlefields of Europe and Asia while their descendents are suspended from school for pointing their finger and saying "bang." Perhaps we need to rethink who goes to the noisy part of future wars.

The regime will likely face a televised revolt complete with stirring events that will live forever in the annals of human liberty. But they'll lose and be destroyed in detail because it will be a sting, an in-house enterprise. They know Americans want an opposition with a cafeteria and a Rebel of the Month parking space. Only the regime can provide such a thing, and provide one it will. It's almost a rule, anything that appears to be as the regime declares it to be is bogus at a deeper level. It won't be pointless however. People deluded enough to confuse Mitt Romney with "Seldom Seen" Smith will be thrilled with a well-produced scam telecast in HD, the better to press the cautionary tale deeply into their minds. The part where common sense used to be.

However, the regime is not like gravity, something that 'just is'. It can be opposed for real and may well be. You'll know it's the real thing when you don't see it. Example: during the Korean War of the early 1950s Russian pilots were taking on the US Air Force. The US government knew it. The Soviet government knew it. The American people didn't know it. Both sides kept the secret from them, with cooperation by the news media—deeply captured toadies even then. So it would be with a real opposition. That's how it works.

A real opposition would likely be a resistance movement, ultraorthodox and non-confrontational. Imagine the Zealots informed by 4GW rather than ghost dancers.

... The press is an appendage to the permanent government. Accept it as such. Nonetheless, should a resistance arise assume there is covert understanding to be had from their reportage. Weigh carefully: deaths or disappearances of key figures, catastrophic failures of infrastructure, implausible 'routine' military exercises, unlikely retirements and sudden resignations at high levels of government, weird prohibitions and outlier regulations, serial transportation mishaps or any similar occurence that happens over and over, headline news recast or retracted or abandoned in the days following the event, shortages of common items, or the like.

... Take special care when partisan fervor is afoot, the life of the mind is fully capable of destroying the life of the body. Recall it was the Zealots who destroyed the food stores of Jerusalem* to stiffen the people's resolve during the Roman siege of the year 70. A much reduced Jerusalem surrendered when the last rat was eaten. Duh. Core Zealots fell at Masada years later, well fed. Secular zealots are already among us and their numbers aren't getting smaller.

It's foolish to turn your back on a bear, if it's in sight at all it's too close. That said, all this is improbable. It takes an industrial grade tinfoil hat to entertain such notions. But history is a good predictor, if pretty much the only predictor, and there are parallels to times past. The so-called Business Plot of 1933 comes to mind. The venerable formula still applies: risk equals severity times probability. The severity is about as high as it gets, the probability is not nothing and appears to be rising. And consider this: the tinfoil hats may be underestimating what's coming. Now is the time to think about these things. The prudent have already achieved something approaching self sufficiency, well away from crowds. There are no do-overs."


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Re: Will Texas Nullify Both NDAA and TSA?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 07:39:31 AM »
Good stuff Pan!

"The prudent have already achieved something approaching self sufficiency, well away from crowds. There are no do-overs."

Nice epitaph.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Will Texas Nullify Both NDAA and TSA?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2012, 09:23:05 AM »
That is a very good read

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Re: Will Texas Nullify Both NDAA and TSA?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2012, 11:24:38 AM »
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