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Title: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Predator Don on January 04, 2012, 02:37:36 PM

I really have a strong dislike for this guy.


http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120103/US.Obama/ (http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20120103/US.Obama/)




 defiant President Barack Obama, tired of Senate Republicans stalling his nominee to lead a new consumer protection agency, put him in charge Wednesday over their opposition.

"I refuse to take `no' for an answer," the president said.

Outraged GOP leaders in Congress immediately suggested that courts would determine whether Richard Cordray's appointment was illegal.

With a director in place, Obama said the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau can start overseeing the mortgage companies, payday lenders, debt collectors and other financial operations often blamed for practices that helped undermine the economy.

Obama announced the move with Cordray by his side before a cheering crowd in Ohio, a politically vital state where Cordray once was attorney general.

Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 04, 2012, 02:55:13 PM
This malevolent would-be dictator must be stopped.
Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: Sectionhand on January 04, 2012, 03:41:26 PM
The little bastard just made three "recess appointments" to the NLRB . Hope we can stop this sh*t in the courts .
Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: John Florida on January 04, 2012, 03:46:10 PM
The little bastard just made three "recess appointments" to the NLRB . Hope we can stop this sh*t in the courts .

 Good luck!!All were gonna get is a lot of show outrage.
Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 04, 2012, 04:23:59 PM
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Until Cordray took over, the office didn't have all the tools needed "to protect consumers against dishonest mortgage brokers or payday lenders, and debt collectors who are taking advantage of consumers," Obama said. "And that's inexcusable. It's wrong."

Another tool in Obama's kit.

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Good luck!!All were gonna get is a lot of show outrage.

It's all kabuki now?

Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: Libertas on January 04, 2012, 04:48:47 PM
Couple more links -

First, The Regime violated its own interpretation of what constitutes a recess period -

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=273766 (http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=273766)

Second, CoC considering a lawsuit to challenge these illegal appointments -

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/202425-chamber-official-court-fight-over-obamas-appointments-almost-certain (http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/202425-chamber-official-court-fight-over-obamas-appointments-almost-certain)

Pretty poor state of affairs when ones constitution may only be protected by an outside entity, not by the Congress that just got buttf**ked by Emperor Obama!

Wake me up if the revolution ever wakes the hell up!

 ::mooning::

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 04, 2012, 07:59:00 PM

Why We Lose

Tonight at the "roundtable" Krauthammer addressing this issues started
his first sentence saying he is "lawless"  he finished by saying "he [Obama]
won the argument".  No, Charles, if you start the sentence with lawless you
end the sentence with prosecute him.

This timid hesitancy expressed by him is systemic within the ranks of our
leadership who call themselves conservative.  They got the stank.

Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: John Florida on January 04, 2012, 08:08:35 PM

Why We Lose

Tonight at the "roundtable" Krauthammer addressing this issues started
his first sentence saying he is "lawless"  he finished by saying "he [Obama]
won the argument".  No, Charles, if you start the sentence with lawless you
end the sentence with prosecute him.

This timid hesitancy expressed by him is systemic within the ranks of our
leadership who call themselves conservative.  They got the stank.




 ::clapping::
Title: Re: A czar by any other name....
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2012, 06:55:06 AM
Yeah, I am so sick of hearing anything that sounds like "What gives Obama the right...", "How can this happen...", "Who is responsible...", "What can be done..." yadda yadda yadda!!!

People are completely unable, unwilling and uninterested in standing up to the usurpation's bashing us in the face 24/7/365 by this Regime and they dare ask stupid questions and make lame statements like CK just did?

They are part of the problem!

Golly, one might conclude we are completly screwed!!!

 ::gaah::
Title: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Pandora on January 05, 2012, 08:15:15 AM
Barack Obama used his recess powers to appoint a head for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and three new radical members of the NLRB today despite the fact that the senate was in session yesterday. (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/01/king-obama-takes-control-breaks-rules-to-make-recess-appointments-because-he-wants-to/)

He "refuses to take no for an answer".

The new "Consumer Financial Protection Bureau" has not only been legislated beyond judicial review -- making it off-limits to the courts -- but gets its budget from the Federal Reserve, thus, beyond House control as well.

Oh, yeah; McConnell made a "statement".

Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 05, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
This guy is all-in on the totalitarian dictatorship. He's literally daring opposition to call it what it is, and seek to remove him from office. He knows they won't. SO he presses forward.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: ToddF on January 05, 2012, 09:49:56 AM
Now which candidate is going to man up and take on this boy, with regards to this unconstitutional power grab?

Which candidate is going to man up, and take on this boy, with regards to Obama finding his inner Hugo?
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 05, 2012, 10:02:06 AM
Now which candidate is going to man up and take on this boy, with regards to this unconstitutional power grab?

Which candidate is going to man up, and take on this boy, with regards to Obama finding his inner Hugo?

They've both been relegated to the sidelines.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Glock32 on January 05, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
This is why this civilization is at an impasse. Checks and balances, separation of powers -- two of the fundamental cornerstones our Founders consciously integrated into our Constitution. But what happens when an entire branch of government fails to exercise its own authority? We have all these safeguards on paper, but they're not being applied.

There is now a chasm between de jure and de facto and it is going to end up playing no small part in the Troubles ahead. One of the best lines in Steyn's latest book is "You set a very dangerous precedent when you communicate daily that the citizen has no democratic means by which to constrain his government."

Ours is an especially frustrating situation, because on paper we have plenty of those "means", but for innumerable reasons they have been rendered increasingly impotent.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: radioman on January 05, 2012, 10:49:38 AM
Someone said that the senate isn't really in session, that it is just a 'ruse' to keep recess appointments from occuring.

Question:
Are they really in session? Or, just pretending to be in session?

I don't know, that is why I'm asking......
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 05, 2012, 10:58:10 AM

Kabuki is always pretend.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 05, 2012, 10:58:22 AM
Re: A czar by any other name....

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4406.msg48637.html#msg48637 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4406.msg48637.html#msg48637)
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Libertas on January 05, 2012, 11:26:14 AM
Waiting for the opposition to grow a set and fight tyranny by any means necessary appears futile and only illustrates the stupidity of the person who thinks these uselss idiots are capable of bold acts in the defense of liberty.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Pandora on January 05, 2012, 11:34:46 AM
Re: A czar by any other name....

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4406.msg48637.html#msg48637 (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,4406.msg48637.html#msg48637)


Rats!  Sorry, Charles; I brain-farted.

I'll merge the two threads.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Magnum on January 05, 2012, 07:21:32 PM
Not only this but just in the past day it is reported that obama wants to:

“Forge Closer Ties” With Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, Stunning Reversal Of Longtime U.S. Policies…
Link (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/04/nyt-report-obama-seeks-to-forge-closer-ties-with-egypts-muslim-brotherhood-stunning-reversal-of-longtime-u-s-policies/)

Gut Tens of Thousands of Ground Troops From Military, Will End Strategy of Being Able To Fight Two Major Wars At Once
Link (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/05/obamas-excuse-for-gutting-military-but-but-but-george-w-bush)

Share U.S. Missile Defense Secrets With . . . Russia…
Link (http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/05/good-news-obama-wants-to-share-u-s-missile-defense-secrets-with-russia/)

Sometimes it is really hard for me to live a Christian life. Lately, it seems more and more, I  have to work on not letting my anger turn to hatred.

I pray the Lord will have mercy on our Country....................................... ::praying::
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Pandora on January 05, 2012, 10:43:09 PM
For a look at just how egregious this "Bureau" is .....

http://www.fed-soc.org/doclib/20101223_GrayShuEngage11.3.pdf (http://www.fed-soc.org/doclib/20101223_GrayShuEngage11.3.pdf)

Just reading this assessment made me sick to my stomach.  This "Bureau" is so crafted to with the authority to seize any business, anywhere, at any time, for vague reasons defined only by the "Bureau"; it, in essence, is now in control of every aspect of our economy .... and us.  As if Obamacare wasn't bad enough ....
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 05, 2012, 11:32:30 PM
I really, really want this would be dictator to fall down hard. Really hard. The harder he falls, the more satisfaction I will have. I wish Barack Hussein the very, very worst of what life has to offer. I pray it.

Psalm 64
    For the director of music. A psalm of David.

 1 Hear me, my God, as I voice my complaint;
   protect my life from the threat of the enemy.

 2 Hide me from the conspiracy of the wicked,
   from the plots of evildoers.
3 They sharpen their tongues like swords
   and aim cruel words like deadly arrows.
4 They shoot from ambush at the innocent;
   they shoot suddenly, without fear.

 5 They encourage each other in evil plans,
   they talk about hiding their snares;
   they say, “Who will see it?”
6 They plot injustice and say,
   “We have devised a perfect plan!”
   Surely the human mind and heart are cunning.

 7 But God will shoot them with his arrows;
   they will suddenly be struck down.
8 He will turn their own tongues against them
   and bring them to ruin;
   all who see them will shake their heads in scorn.
9 All people will fear;
   they will proclaim the works of God
   and ponder what he has done.

 10 The righteous will rejoice in the LORD
   and take refuge in him;
   all the upright in heart will glory in him!
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 06, 2012, 12:15:12 AM

Hallelujah.

Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Libertas on January 06, 2012, 07:03:23 AM
Amen!
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 06, 2012, 11:42:01 AM

On his radio show last night, Mark Levin said that President Barack Obama has caused a “constitutional crisis” by appointing members to the National Labor Relations Board and a director to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau without going through the constitutionally required Senate confirmation process.
Hear it here (http://cnsnews.com/blog/patrick-burke/mark-levin-we-have-constitutional-crisis)


The Lawless Obama Regime (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/05/the_lawless_obama_regime)
RUSH: All right, some people in the e-mail have taken exception with my description of Obama as "lawless" and acting outside the Constitution. Let me share with you a quote, and this is from a video. It might have been from yesterday out in Ohio, but it's within the past couple days. Obama said, "When Congress refuses to act -- and as a result, hurts our economy and puts our people at risk -- then I have an obligation as president to do what I can without them." He got applause. "I have an obligation to act on behalf of the American people. I'm not going to stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people that we elected to serve. Not with so much at stake, not at this make-or-break moment for middle class Americans. We're not gonna let that happen."

Now, the Founding Fathers said this is exactly what's supposed to happen! It's called "the separation of powers," and it's to make sure that things like this do not happen, that an all-powerful executive does not run roughshod over the government.


Savage: Here’s what America will look like if Obama wins (http://www.wnd.com/2011/12/375385/)
“I have to tell you that if this man, God forbid, is the next president of the United States, we’re going to be living in something along the lines of – people say Europe. I don’t believe it’s going to be like Europe – I think it will be closer to Chavez’s South American dictatorship,”


Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 06, 2012, 12:41:42 PM

McGaffe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWbBGz7kTg#ws)

Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 06, 2012, 06:21:24 PM


McRINO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ovqv0SV2EY#ws)

Think Romney's going to have him on the stage again?
                                                                                 Tha Tha Tha That's all folks!
                                                                                                   ::LoonyTunesThemeSong::


Porky Pig Cartoon Ending "That's All Folks!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4#)

Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 06, 2012, 07:30:36 PM
John McCain evokes a visceral reaction from me that is unique.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Pandora on January 06, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
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President Barack Obama today escalated his claimed power to appoint top officials by announcing that his financial-sector appointee also has authority that is legally reserved only for an official who has been confirmed by the Senate.

The 2010 law that established the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau includes a section that says many of the bureau’s new powers are to be held by the secretary of the Treasury “until the Director of the Bureau is confirmed by the Senate.”

Obam’s Jan. 3. claim to have appointed Cordray appears to violate the Constitution and is a grab for increased presidential power, say many constitutional lawyers.

But his new Jan. 6 claim about Cordray’s powers goes even further by contradicting the plain language of the 2010 law that created the bureau.

Section 1066 of the law says many of the bureau’s new powers are activated once the Senate confirms a director. Those extra powers include the authority to write regulations for non-bank firms, such as payday lenders.

Obama also said Friday that Cordray’s new authority include those powers.

“Now that Richard [Cordray] is your director, you can finally exercise the full power that this agency has been given to protect consumers under the law,” Obama said in a Dec. 6 visit to the CFPB.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/06/obama-escalates-appointments-crisis-claims-cordray-has-full-powers-without-senate-approval/#ixzz1ijlxtAJI (http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/06/obama-escalates-appointments-crisis-claims-cordray-has-full-powers-without-senate-approval/#ixzz1ijlxtAJI)
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 06, 2012, 09:24:43 PM
Where is the outrage?
Some senator other second rate personality could take this and run with it.
Make a spectacle of himself and get elected or sell it some other way while
tying and anchor of law around What'sHisPrince's neck.  This and or Gun-
Runner is just waiting for a Swift Boat Captain.  

It's God Almighty; He's fed up with the people of America sitting on our duff.
He says you picked Me then you've left Me you're going to have to work to
get Me back.  

ETA: Has anyone or does one know anyone who has communicated with their senator about this.
To: Most Honorable Senator Wormwood,
      I missed your most recent email gram regarding actions taken against President&Co's
      lawless usurpation of our laws and adulteration of our Constitution.  You miserable worm.
      I missed your appearance on the six o'clock news also, you freaking coward. Your lack of
      concern for this matter causes me to suspect you are in cahoots with that miserable rat
      and upon announcement of the trials you may be assured I will enter your name and all
      collected evidence as a co-conspirator.

      See you at the trials.
      Sincerely,
      Charles Oakwood
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Libertas on January 07, 2012, 11:17:57 AM
Accountability?  Courage?  Trials?

Do you think we still live in a representative republic that respects the rule of law?

 ::falldownshocked::

Siwwy Wabbit!

 ::slapfight::

And as far as the J-Mac clip goes, I think that moron was speaking truthfully and from the heart before the others tried to correct him.

 ::mooning::
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: charlesoakwood on January 07, 2012, 12:26:22 PM

Yeah, he was, but he lost his place.  He thought he was on stage
campaigning for himself and he did it twice in as many days
for a normal politician that's professional suicide.  He's gone bonkers.
I expect to see less and less of him in public and when he is it will
be in a controlled environment.

Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Libertas on January 07, 2012, 12:34:58 PM
He is an albatross...Romney can keep him.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: John Florida on January 07, 2012, 07:24:16 PM
He is an albatross...Romney can keep him.

 Two losers side by side. Seems to work well for everybody else.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Pandora on January 08, 2012, 09:01:32 AM
Andrew McCarthy (http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/287424/obama-skirts-democratic-process-andrew-c-mccarthy?pg=2) hits the nail on the head .......

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So Republicans have declined to confirm Obama’s nominee, Richard Cordray (Ohio’s former attorney general, beloved of the trial lawyers). But being Republicans, they are not, of course, demanding repeal of this despotic CFPB coup — just as they have no real desire to slash any of the bulging administrative behemoth. Yes, they talk about slashing it, but what they actually want is to control it. So their bold pitch is to make the CFPB marginally more accountable and, as night follows day, bigger: to subject it to Congress’s appropriations process (as if that will give the public a real say in how it operates); to have bank regulators check its likely excesses (playing into Obama’s narrative about protecting Wall Street at the expense of Main Street); and to expand its leadership to several board members rather than a single unelected technocrat (because creating more patronage slots has been so effective in reining in the EPA and the rest of the bureaucratic maze).

Because the GOP establishment is statist lite, they play into the president’s hands. Removing the Dodd-Frank deadweight from a crippled economy, killing an authoritarian bureaucracy in the cradle — that is the kind of campaign that would have stoked passion, highlighting a very different vision of a country breaking free of its regulatory chains. But no one is going to get whipped up over a few technical tweaks on the one-way road to bigger Big Government. Obama has a simple story to tell: “Obstructionist Republicans are trying to stop me from saving you.” By comparison, the Republican story — “We’re all for statist cures, just with a Washington-style nip here and tuck there” — makes your eyes glaze over.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: IronDioPriest on January 08, 2012, 11:53:01 AM
It doesn't make my eyes glaze over. It makes them turn red, and fantasize about capital punishment for government malfeasance.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: warpmine on January 08, 2012, 01:36:30 PM
It doesn't make my eyes glaze over. It makes them turn red, and fantasize about capital punishment for government malfeasance.
Yes, what he saidand thanks!
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: AlanS on January 08, 2012, 05:52:32 PM
It doesn't make my eyes glaze over. It makes them turn red, and fantasize about capital punishment for government malfeasance.
Yes, what he saidand thanks!

I hope the revolution hasn't started without me.
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Predator Don on January 08, 2012, 06:04:39 PM
He is an albatross...Romney can keep him.

 Two losers side by side. Seems to work well for everybody else.

A guy going to great lengths to convince the people he is conservative.......traveling with Mccain. ::thinking:: ::lalanotlistening::
Title: Re: King Obama Takes Control – Breaks Rules On Recess Appointments
Post by: Pandora on January 08, 2012, 06:09:51 PM
He is an albatross...Romney can keep him.

 Two losers side by side. Seems to work well for everybody else.

A guy going to great lengths to convince the people he is conservative.......traveling with Mccain. ::thinking:: ::lalanotlistening::

Yep; some "tell", isn't it.