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Title: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2014, 07:36:45 AM
 ::speechless::

Just up the road in Saskatoon...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/ebola-virus-outbreak-spreads-canada (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/ebola-virus-outbreak-spreads-canada)

I sure hope it doesn't spread.

 ::praying::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on March 26, 2014, 10:00:34 AM
::speechless::

Just up the road in Saskatoon...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/ebola-virus-outbreak-spreads-canada (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/ebola-virus-outbreak-spreads-canada)

I sure hope it doesn't spread.

 ::praying::

The thing we should be concerned about is that the fella returning to Canada from Liberia was undoubtedly on a jetliner. From what I've read in the past, bodily secretions can include vaporized saliva in the form of sneezing/coughing. If the guy had any virus on his hands, and touched anything on the airplane that was subsequently touched by someone else...

If it's gonna happen, we should know soon.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on March 26, 2014, 11:30:44 AM
::speechless::

Just up the road in Saskatoon...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/ebola-virus-outbreak-spreads-canada (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-25/ebola-virus-outbreak-spreads-canada)

I sure hope it doesn't spread.

 ::praying::

The thing we should be concerned about is that the fella returning to Canada from Liberia was undoubtedly on a jetliner. From what I've read in the past, bodily secretions can include vaporized saliva in the form of sneezing/coughing. If the guy had any virus on his hands, and touched anything on the airplane that was subsequently touched by someone else...

If it's gonna happen, we should know soon.

Makes my skin crawl...   ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on March 26, 2014, 01:30:46 PM
From the BBC article:

Quote
A Canadian man in hospital with symptoms of a haemorrhagic fever resembling Ebola has tested negative for the virus, a health official says.


But it's still only a matter of time before something highly virulent like Ebola does spread outside of Africa.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on July 24, 2014, 07:28:12 AM
Yeah, how out of hand is it really?  How do we know who is travelling where and might be carrying what?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-23/head-doctor-fighting-africas-out-control-ebola-epidemic-contracts-virus (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-23/head-doctor-fighting-africas-out-control-ebola-epidemic-contracts-virus)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2014, 07:09:59 AM
Ebola scare in NY.

http://7online.com/health/mount-sinai-patient-tested-for-ebola-virus/239663/ (http://7online.com/health/mount-sinai-patient-tested-for-ebola-virus/239663/)

Should find out today if they test positive...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2014, 11:53:04 AM
The latest Ebola outbreak has claimed almost 900 lives in West Africa.
Despite warnings from health officials villagers in West Africa continue to purchase and eat bats, rodents and bush meat.

Scientists report that Ebola may be present in more animals than previously thought. So far, it has been detected in chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, antelopes, porcupines, rodents, dogs, pigs and humans.

Now this…
Several studies show the deadly virus may spread through airborne transmission—

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/ebola-airborne-verified-studies-show-airborne-transmission-of-deadly-virus-nih-lancet-osha/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/ebola-airborne-verified-studies-show-airborne-transmission-of-deadly-virus-nih-lancet-osha/)

This thing could be just getting off the ground...if airbourne this could get fugly real fast...

 ::exitstageleft::

Case in Columbus, OH?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/another-sick-american-undergoing-ebola-testing-time-columbus (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-05/another-sick-american-undergoing-ebola-testing-time-columbus)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on August 05, 2014, 10:16:29 PM
Look, dying from a hemorrhagic fever with your internal organs reduced to goo is a small price to pay in order to avoid being called a racist. Diversity is our strength, and our enlightened rulers will hear it no other way.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2014, 06:44:38 AM
Look, dying from a hemorrhagic fever with your internal organs reduced to goo is a small price to pay in order to avoid being called a racist. Diversity is our strength, and our enlightened rulers will hear it no other way.

 ::thinking::

...then the so-called enlightened rulers need to be sacked.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2014, 07:11:08 AM
OH woman cleared, NY case should have had testing disclosed by now, so that one remains suspicious.

http://www.wkrn.com/story/26201803/46-year-old-woman-hospitalized-tested-for-possible-ebola (http://www.wkrn.com/story/26201803/46-year-old-woman-hospitalized-tested-for-possible-ebola)

And, as we would expect from a totalitarian regime, it is not just InfoWars (http://www.infowars.com/u-s-health-authorities-concealing-number-of-suspected-ebola-victims-from-public/) reporting we are being kept in the dark, a number of lamestream sources (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/05/Ebola-Across-America) are beginning to ask questions and point to a porous (Obama Regime) border and even the NY Slimes (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/05/Report-Ebola-Virus-Spread-Because-of-Lax-Quarantine-Enforcement) is blaming West African nations for lax quarrantine efforts, obviously the NYTs et al are racists!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on August 06, 2014, 08:36:34 AM
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Tests seem to indicate that on the order of 100 viral particles are sufficient to be infective (literature discusses infective doses measured less than that…) The virus is considered to be spread by droplets of infective material, but due to its incredibly low infective dose, aerosols and airborne dispersion should be seriously considered by anyone working with Ebola patients (Your mileage may vary, but I’m opting for a completely sealed suit. Level B or better).

Ebola is small. It gets into the body any number of ways. From there it attempts to get into a cell. Once there it grabs a hold of the cellular machinery and start churning out copies of itself. The cell literally begins to “ooze” out spaghetti threads of virus before ultimately falling apart, shedding thousands and thousands of viral particles to start the next infective cycle. This disease devastates tissue and moves incredibly fast. Organs are horribly damaged before you even realize there is a problem.

Ebola circulates through the blood, therefore it has easy access to the walls of the vasculature (Arteries, veins, and capillaries). It’s perfectly happy to jump into the epithelium lining these vessels, replicating within them and ultimately destroying the cells lining the vessels. As the vessels are damaged, the body responds by attempting to “seal” the leaks in the vessel walls by clotting. The body goes into a clotting overdrive trying to patch all of the damage that is happening throughout the vasculature. Very quickly, the body uses up all of it’s clotting capability.

In a perverse turn, this hyperactive clotting attempt allows the body to bleed freely. From everywhere. Patients will cry blood colored tears, blood will ooze from under their fingernails, their gums will bleed around their teeth. This bleeding isn’t limited to the outside world, either. Within their body, bleeding is happening within the gut as the GI tract lining is destroyed and shed. Some patients freely urinate blood. Early deaths may happen for patients who have bleeding in the brain. The central theme is that the bleeding starts to happen everywhere.

However, the virus is pretty cagey. It doesn’t (typically) devastate the lungs, heart, or brain. The patient is still going, surviving as their body is being destroyed by a runaway virus. This virus is hijacking almost every cellular process it can to make more copies of itself.


LINK (http://cavemancircus.com/2014/08/05/everything-wanted-know-ebola/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2014, 12:01:01 PM
Yeah, learn from West Africa's mistakes...chief among them, burn the bodies, don't toss them in the street (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/05/us-health-ebola-africa-idUSKBN0G51VF20140805) or stupid crap like that!  This disease is nasty, as Trap's info above illustrates, it is not like you can don a mask like the Chinese and go about your day...there is just too many ways this can infect you and then you are a walking plague-giver who will kill others...

If we get an outbreak, the silence of the government and the MFM is going to set streets and buildings on fire!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2014, 08:51:29 AM
CDC goes Level 1 wioth Ebola alert...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/08/20140807_ebola_0.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-07/nigeria-declares-state-emergency-everyone-world-risk-ebola-cdc-issues-level-1-all-ha (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-07/nigeria-declares-state-emergency-everyone-world-risk-ebola-cdc-issues-level-1-all-ha)

 ::saywhat::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 07, 2014, 12:24:45 PM
remember hearing about how they cured Ebola in 2010.
Neither do I

http://genome.fieldofscience.com/2010/05/breakthrough-cure-for-ebola.html (http://genome.fieldofscience.com/2010/05/breakthrough-cure-for-ebola.html)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on August 07, 2014, 02:33:52 PM
So what about imported produce?  A lot of fruit comes from Africa.  My concern is not that an Ebola-infected person might have handled it, so much as the possibility that an infected fruit bat might have fed on the same crop.  It is currently believed that the primary route of transmission is fruit bats feeding on plants, leaving their saliva on it, and then a primate or human eats from the same plants and ingests the viral particles left behind by the bat's saliva.

I think Europe imports more African fruit than we do, but if you look at the natural range of the fruit bat in that image above, it could potentially affect most tropical fruit imports.  Bananas, oranges, all kinds of stuff.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2014, 06:33:21 AM
Certainly a cause to buy local grown stuff, if I have to pass on exotic fruits so be it, we here can at least get a wide variety of home-grown stuff.

But the big take away I get from this is, much like what Weisshaupt was getting to, is the sheer hubris of thinking that a) Africa in particular given their track record and stupid tribal customs or b) the rest of the world given their lack of medical breakthroughs for one, can combat this thing if it reaches the point of no return!


ETA - More news...

Ebola fears making Malaria deadlier as people fear going to a hospital where Ebola patients are being treated...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-06/malaria-cases-mix-with-ebola-amid-slow-motion-disaster-.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-06/malaria-cases-mix-with-ebola-amid-slow-motion-disaster-.html)

Liberia feeling stressed...

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-liberia-health-system-collapsing-ebola-spreads-210034626.html (http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-liberia-health-system-collapsing-ebola-spreads-210034626.html)

Control?  Contain? 

Can't even agree on disposal of cadavers...

Yeah, this is all under control...

/
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on August 08, 2014, 09:36:22 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cZVkwB9hs-o/U99_jigJtUI/AAAAAAAAFKs/fWxbA8ib4lQ/s1600/Stilton+Ebola+8.2.14.jpg)


H/T: ushanka.us (http://blog.ushanka.us/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
Billy needs a new Mom...

Where's Dad at?  Is he a loser too or what?

Dad may need a new wife!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2014, 07:26:06 AM
Spanish Priest dies of Ebola in Madrid, contracted it in a hospital in Liberia.

http://www.ibtimes.com/spanish-priest-miguel-pajares-being-treated-ebola-madrid-hospital-has-died-1655892 (http://www.ibtimes.com/spanish-priest-miguel-pajares-being-treated-ebola-madrid-hospital-has-died-1655892)

8 Chinese quarantined.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-12/priest-ebola-dies-spanish-hospital-eight-chinese-workers-quarantined (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-12/priest-ebola-dies-spanish-hospital-eight-chinese-workers-quarantined)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on August 12, 2014, 11:23:18 AM
What's with all these damn people being evacuated to their home countries?  What, are they trying to help it spread into a global epidemic?  I get that leaving them in Africa is basically a death sentence (I would argue that going there in the first place was a death sentence) but why bring them all over the world?

Seems there should be a medical facility established somewhere on a remote island for this sort of thing.  Or what about a medical ship?  The Navy has hospital ships that can rival any land based hospital.  Sloppy containment and sterilization practices (remember somebody only has to screw up once) would be far less dangerous in the middle of the ocean than in major urban hospitals.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 12, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Devils Island should be available, Alcatraz doesn't have to be a tourist attraction any more...lot's of secure places to quarantine infected folk and medical providers.

But nooooo, let's just play with fire...we are so much smarter now, aren't we?

 ::)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 26, 2014, 07:23:00 PM
Even in Africa, Africans are responding to Ebola Outbreaks as Conspiracy (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/upshot/fighting-ebola-and-the-conspiracy-theories.html?ref=health&_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1)

If they are skeptical of the outbreak, how ever much more should we be? Its the NY Times, official mouthpiece of the Leftist Fascists, so if they are saying people are stupid for wondering if this s a hoax, its probably because it is a hoax. I wonder if they realize that their political bias has any effect on how credible they are?
 

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2014, 07:34:46 AM
The NY Slimes angle is easy to see, they merely want to push anything that further enrages feral Africans here, feed their paranoia that people are out to get them when in fact they are just being goaded into lashing out at their typical boogiemen...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on August 29, 2014, 07:40:52 AM
New Mystery disease in Kansas City (http://fox4kc.com/2014/08/28/unusual-respiratory-virus-enterovirus-68-strikes-metro-kids/)

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 01, 2014, 04:55:26 PM
This is really weird, look enterovirus up, I've never seen so many variants, what the heck is going on?!

Engineered or natural, neither scenario engenders much in the way of relieving concern!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 02, 2014, 06:40:42 PM
This is really weird, look enterovirus up, I've never seen so many variants, what the heck is going on?!

Engineered or natural, neither scenario engenders much in the way of relieving concern!

Oh look  West Africa and Congo are seeing different strains of Ebola (http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/09/02/ebola-outbreaks-unrelated-in-west-africa-and-democratic-republic-of-congo/) kinda like someone is testing out different strains there to see how they spread....

Quote
If there can be any good news – or at least not further disheartening news – coming out of the African continent regarding this year’s Ebola outbreaks, we have one positive report this morning.

The World Health Organization has just confirmed that the newly-identified cases of Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) in the Democratic Republic of Congo is genetically unrelated to the strain currently circulating in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Nigeria.

A WHO collaborating research center in Franceville, Gabon, the Centre International de Recherches Médicales, had previously identified six Ebola positive samples sent to the laboratory. They report today that, “the virus in the Boende district is definitely not derived from the virus strain currently circulating in west Africa.”

Yeah, if that is the Good News..

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 03, 2014, 06:41:39 AM
Yeah, it's only a new strain, woo hoo!

/

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 05, 2014, 09:24:24 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/06/world/africa/ebola-vaccine-could-be-ready-by-november-who-says.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/06/world/africa/ebola-vaccine-could-be-ready-by-november-who-says.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 08, 2014, 01:30:11 PM
Possible Ebola case in Miami...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-08/contained-miami-hospital-reports-potential-ebola-case (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-08/contained-miami-hospital-reports-potential-ebola-case)

...now, back to something important, like the latest reality TV show!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 08, 2014, 02:43:10 PM
Possible Ebola case in Miami...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-08/contained-miami-hospital-reports-potential-ebola-case (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-08/contained-miami-hospital-reports-potential-ebola-case)

...now, back to something important, like the latest reality TV show!

Hey....
 ::angry::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 08, 2014, 07:59:47 PM
Possible Ebola case in Miami...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-08/contained-miami-hospital-reports-potential-ebola-case (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-08/contained-miami-hospital-reports-potential-ebola-case)

...now, back to something important, like the latest reality TV show!

Hey....
 ::angry::

Jus' being my smartass self...    :D
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 08, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
Y'all see this enterovirus 68 is in 10 states now?  I get the willies thinking the Fedcoats are testing delivery methods for something worse!

 ::foilhathelicopter::

And what the heck is this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/09/us-air-marshal-stabbed-syringe-lagos-airport-nigeria-ebola-fears (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/09/us-air-marshal-stabbed-syringe-lagos-airport-nigeria-ebola-fears)

How did the guy know he was the Air Marshall?  Sounds targeted by me, and now the guy is in Houston and could be carrying what, Ebola or something worse?

The world sure does seem to want to go to Hell in a handbasket! 
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 12, 2014, 11:45:43 AM
The UN is our only hope to combat Ebola?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/opinion/what-were-afraid-to-say-about-ebola.html?emc=edit_tnt_20140911&nlid=745484&tntemail0=y&_r=2 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/opinion/what-were-afraid-to-say-about-ebola.html?emc=edit_tnt_20140911&nlid=745484&tntemail0=y&_r=2)

Hey guess what, we're f**ked!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 15, 2014, 07:43:02 AM
Oh shyt!  This is not going to end well!!!

http://online.wsj.com/articles/obama-plans-major-ebola-offensive-1410738096 (http://online.wsj.com/articles/obama-plans-major-ebola-offensive-1410738096)

Look for Ebola to explode here!

And the statist delivery testing continues...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/health/enterovirus-new-york/ (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/health/enterovirus-new-york/)

 ::foilhathelicopter::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on September 24, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Even better.. we now have Zombies (http://allafrica.com/stories/201409240829.html) being created from the ebola virus.
Its going to be the frigging Zombie Apocalypse after all.
Doesn't Revelations have something about the dead rising from their graves?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 25, 2014, 07:03:03 AM
Even better.. we now have Zombies (http://allafrica.com/stories/201409240829.html) being created from the ebola virus.
Its going to be the frigging Zombie Apocalypse after all.
Doesn't Revelations have something about the dead rising from their graves?

That is a bit freaky if verifiable.

And I thought that dead rising thing wasn't till Judgement Day?  Well, anyway, I don't get too wrapped up into hysteria, after all I take the warning in that book serious - Final (22nd Chapter) -

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
 
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 26, 2014, 06:55:20 AM
Y'all see this enterovirus 68 is in 10 states now?  I get the willies thinking the Fedcoats are testing delivery methods for something worse!

 ::foilhathelicopter::

And what the heck is this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/09/us-air-marshal-stabbed-syringe-lagos-airport-nigeria-ebola-fears (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/09/us-air-marshal-stabbed-syringe-lagos-airport-nigeria-ebola-fears)

How did the guy know he was the Air Marshall?  Sounds targeted by me, and now the guy is in Houston and could be carrying what, Ebola or something worse?

The world sure does seem to want to go to Hell in a handbasket!

More on this mystery...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/health/outbreak-of-a-respiratory-illness-escalates-among-children.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/health/outbreak-of-a-respiratory-illness-escalates-among-children.html?_r=0)

...how much is hype/hysteria?  I dunno.  But bottom line is this outbreak indications that nature is about to teach mankind who really is in charge?  Regardless if this got out of hand on its own and mutated or if some government-funded scientist let a contagion out that was thought to be harmless or even something more sinister...we likely will not know things have gotten "too out of hand" until it is too late anyway.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on September 30, 2014, 07:24:26 AM
Ebola patient surfaces in Dallas...

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/09/29/north-texas-hospital-evaluating-patient-for-potential-ebola-exposure/ (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/09/29/north-texas-hospital-evaluating-patient-for-potential-ebola-exposure/)

...pretty skimpy details...

...I'm sure everything is fine...

 ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on September 30, 2014, 04:03:46 PM
It's confirmed as Ebola:

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/09/29/dallas-presbyterian-hospital-ebola-patient-isolation/16460629/ (http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/09/29/dallas-presbyterian-hospital-ebola-patient-isolation/16460629/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 30, 2014, 04:09:22 PM
Here we go.

If he came from Africa, he came on a plane. He encountered an untold number of people before he became symptomatic. He encountered health care workers before he was diagnosed, and they in turn encountered patients, intimately.

Here we go.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on September 30, 2014, 04:50:45 PM
Here we go.

If he came from Africa, he came on a plane. He encountered an untold number of people before he became symptomatic. He encountered health care workers before he was diagnosed, and they in turn encountered patients, intimately.

Here we go.


All of whom went home to their families at some point, and in turn all of those family members went to jobs and schools.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on September 30, 2014, 04:52:38 PM
I can't help but think... "Never let a crisis go to waste." I would wager that the regime is making plans as we speak.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: AlanS on September 30, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
Here we go.

If he came from Africa, he came on a plane. He encountered an untold number of people before he became symptomatic. He encountered health care workers before he was diagnosed, and they in turn encountered patients, intimately.

Here we go.

I agree: Here we go. I'm still trying to figure out where we're going. Does anyone besides me see a possible police state attempt emerging from this?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2014, 06:46:12 AM
Here we go.

If he came from Africa, he came on a plane. He encountered an untold number of people before he became symptomatic. He encountered health care workers before he was diagnosed, and they in turn encountered patients, intimately.

Here we go.

Yup.

And the Feds you see, are refusing to give we, their bosses, any info on him...

"The unidentified man was critically ill and has been in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital since Sunday, federal health officials said Tuesday. They would not reveal his nationality or age."

http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/ap_0df7248061c142deaa3df064cb2e3263 (http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/ap_0df7248061c142deaa3df064cb2e3263)

...which is to say his nationality must not be American.

I work in the healthcare industry, we have people pouring in from all corners of the globe...

I tell ya, I contract a nasty something from some foreign assclown we just let waltz into the country to go any damn place they please...not gonna end well for somebody...

Same for Islaminal terrorists...way I see it, what's the diff?!


ETA -

Location of CDC contamination centers...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/09-overflow/20140830_ebola_0.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/cdc-confirms-first-ebola-case-diagnosed-us (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/cdc-confirms-first-ebola-case-diagnosed-us)

...not sure it is a good thing or a bad thing one is near me...

 ???
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 01, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
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I tell ya, I contract a nasty something from some foreign assclown we just let waltz into the country to go any damn place they please...not gonna end well for somebody...

Read my mind there, Libs.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 01, 2014, 09:08:00 AM
So now it comes out that this guy was originally sent home with antibiotics.  So prior to being diagnosed, but already symptomatic, he was sent back out where any number of people would have come into contact.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2775872/Man-Ebola-Dallas-hospital-SENT-HOME-antibiotics-deadly-virus-discovered.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2775872/Man-Ebola-Dallas-hospital-SENT-HOME-antibiotics-deadly-virus-discovered.html)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
Yeah, well...this is the "Ahhaaawww, schucks...what's the worst that could happen?" America, thanks to O'Bongo and his ilk...ya get what ya get...just remember who is at fault so eventually they get theirs!!!

Oh, crap, that didn't take long...

Second ebola patient surfaces in Texas!!! (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/)

 ::cussing::  Somebody's ass should be whupped!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 01, 2014, 11:30:08 AM
This is also one of those situations where the possible hidden costs of Political Correctness are impossible to calculate.  You would think hospital protocol would be extra cautious for any patient exhibiting flu-like symptoms who had just recently arrived from West Africa.  But like the people who hesitated to say anything about the Ft. Hood jihadist, could someone have decided it's not worth the possible opprobrium that would come from "profiling"?  At this point we don't know much about the patient except that he's a man who arrived from Liberia on the 20th.  Is he of African origin, or a Westerner?  I'm thinking the sequence of events points to him being an African.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2014, 11:37:37 AM
Yes, the refusal of the Feds to say means only one thing - African.

And yes, the pc/diversity/multi-culti cultist mental illness will help ensure innocents suffer as a result of their ideological insanity!

Mark my words - payback for this kind of willful negligence will hurt real real bad!!!

Speaking of Africa and cultists...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/obama-defers-deportation-of-liberians-on-same-day-tx-ebola-patient-enters-hospital/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/obama-defers-deportation-of-liberians-on-same-day-tx-ebola-patient-enters-hospital/)

 ::gaah::   Evil   ::cussing::  sucking   ::cussing::  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ::asskicking::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 01, 2014, 11:53:19 AM
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 01, 2014, 12:01:01 PM
At this point we don't know much about the patient except that he's a man who arrived from Liberia on the 20th.  Is he of African origin, or a Westerner?  I'm thinking the sequence of events points to him being an African.

He's a Liberian-American. Or at least a Liberian...

Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.

"We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/)

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2014, 12:03:15 PM
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.

Yeah, the elitist "true-believer" exemption they all think they'll get...well, depends how high up the trash heap you are and how long you have to enjoy your place before righteously angry people rip you to pieces!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 01, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
At this point we don't know much about the patient except that he's a man who arrived from Liberia on the 20th.  Is he of African origin, or a Westerner?  I'm thinking the sequence of events points to him being an African.

He's a Liberian-American. Or at least a Liberian...

Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.

"We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/)

I think worse is about to happen...these folks never listen to warnings...their culture is their religion...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 01, 2014, 05:05:56 PM
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.

Yep. Its unfair that only the third world has poor health care and diseases.  Lets pass Obamacare and collapse the southern border so that everyone can suffer equally!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: benb61 on October 01, 2014, 05:56:32 PM
Make no mistake, there are many liberals who think America deserves to have disease outbreaks like this. In their warped world view, the prosperity and security of life in the West is only because of oppression of the rest of the world.

They see the prospect of American lives becoming harder and shorter as righteous comeuppance, bringing us down from our unearned lofty position.  If the rest of the world has to live in a daily grind of squalor, filth, and disease then we should too.  Just not them, personally, of course.

Yep. Its unfair that only the third world has poor health care and diseases.  Lets pass Obamacare and collapse the southern border so that everyone can suffer equally!

That is the liberal/socialist/communist motto, don'tcha know.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2014, 01:09:59 AM
I will jot down my thoughts:

1) This is not Africa. And that is both good and bad. Why is it good? It's good because we are a technologically advanced society with a reasonably intelligent population and the ability to communicate health warnings quickly and broadly. Why it is bad? It's bad because we are a technologically advanced society with the right, the ability and the will to move about freely and we do so frequently.

During the earlier ebola outbreaks the infected were not highly mobile and that kept the death limited to geographically small and isolated areas. This ebola outbreak is different because the infection was able to (and allowed to) spread beyond small villages to large cities such as Monrovia. It is because of this that the health experts have plotted charts with geometrically escalating rates of infection...large numbers of people packed into a relatively small space. Small villages are not terribly difficult to quarantine but large cities are virtually impossible to keep sealed. It was inevitable that the disease would get out of these cities and gain footholds in other places, linked by modern travel modes. This has now happened and just like that, it's here in the USA.

2) As I noted in a different ebola thread, we are counting on government workers to thread the needle here. From the beginning of this first reported incident a hospital worker (who could have passed for a government worker) screwed the pooch and sent a symptomatic (and therefore highly infectious) victim away instead of immediately putting him into isolation. And that was even after the victim told the hospital worker that he was from Liberia and that he had been in direct contact with infected and symptomatic victims just a short while ago. This is the same type of indifferent mentality that allowed hundreds of morons to starve and wallow in their own filth inside the New Orleans Superdome for days on end in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Imagine just how much more incompetence would have been demonstrated if actual government workers had been involved.

Have we dodged a bullet in this one particular case? Almost certainly not. It will be nothing short of miraculous if there are not subsequent infections from this one particular case. But the thing is...there is a very high likelihood (bordering on near certainty) that there will be other infected persons in other parts of the country who had nothing to do with this one particular case...in other words, if it happened once then it can most certainly happen again.

Each new case, whether connected to this particular case or not, is another opportunity for the disease to be spread far and wide.

3) Which brings me to my third and larger point. Whether you believe that this crisis is planned or unplanned it is, nevertheless, a crisis. Remember back to the hours and days that followed the moment when the planes struck the WTC and the Pentagon. First, on a federal level we literally crippled the air transportation system instantly and kept it that way for a week. Then the country went on a (totally justifiable, in my opinion) paranoia binge as regards terrorists and terrorism. No one could have known at the time that there would not be another successful terrorist attack of the same magnitude. But we had to behave as if there could be. The effect on the country and the economy was very real. Certainly something less than crippling but definitely a ripple that ran through everything and that left a mark.

So...if we have further ebola patients popping up here and there and if those patients manage to spin off a few (or worse, many) new infected persons I believe we can expect some or even a very significant portion of the country to come to a grinding halt. This is what I see coming. It will not take much for the country to be pushed to a tipping point in this situation. All it will take is a few more reported cases coupled with the to-be-expected social media visuals (people convulsing, vomiting and bleeding profusely) and you will begin to see people voluntarily going into isolation. The country cannot take a three to four week vacation en masse and not pay a terrible price. But this could very well happen.

And that's a best case scenario when you think about it. That is all assuming that we get a relatively few infected persons flying into the US from Africa. What if we get a few dozen or a few hundred ebola African imports generously sprinkled across the country? We are supposed to have something like 13,000 visa holders from the affected African countries and the WH has today literally promised that there will be no ban on travel from these areas into the US.

4) I am also personally concerned about other modes of infection. Specifically I am concerned about ebola being transmitted by way of insect bite. More specifically I worry about mosquitos. Mosquitos are a disease transmission mode for quite a few diseases and I do not see why ebola cannot be passed from person to person in this manner. We are told (and I think correctly) that ebola is not passed on by airborne means and that it is (highly) unlikely to mutate in that direction. But, we are not told (by the media or by official government announcement) that ebola can not be spread by insects. They don't say that it can or can't but instead avoid the topic completely. This omission by omission is unsettling to me. Why not just come out and talk about it?

Malaria, for instance, is transmitted by mosquitos. Unlike ebola, malaria is a protozoan parasite and it is introduced into a host by way of the insect's saliva. (Coincidentally, ebola is frequently mistaken for malaria during the onset of symptoms...headache, fever, vomiting) Ebola virus material is significantly smaller than the malaria parasite so it seems to me that there is zero reason why a few strands cannot be passed back and forth between a mosquito and a human during a feeding. If, for instance, one can become infected from a light scratch of an ebola contaminated hypodermic needle then I see no reason why a mosquito bite cannot perform a similar action.

Another thing that bothers me is the opportunity for a blood borne infection to spread through fleas. This is, if I remember correctly, how the plague was spread. Also of concern is the possibility of bed bugs spreading ebola. Bed bugs are blood sucking parasites. They have in recent years experienced a pretty big comeback due to the unavailability of effective pesticides (thanks, libs). Bed bugs are nearly impossible to eradicate and they can be found in not a few hotels in any number of cities both large and small. The wikipedia entry on bed bugs states that there is no evidence that they transmit diseases from one human to another but I remain skeptical.

So...these are just a few of the things that I am contemplating in this brave new world that President Dumbass has bestowed on us.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 02, 2014, 02:49:38 AM
Other happy news: Possible ebola patient in isolation in Hawaii hospital. (http://khon2.com/2014/10/01/patient-in-isolation-in-honolulu-hospital-officials-say-ebola-a-possibility/) Hospital admins are saying there is nothing to see here. What a relief.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2014, 04:58:51 AM
He's a Liberian national.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0)

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MONROVIA, Liberia — A man who flew to Dallas and was later found to have the Ebola virus was identified by senior Liberian government officials on Wednesday as Thomas Eric Duncan, a resident of Monrovia in his mid-40s.

Mr. Duncan, the first person to develop symptoms outside Africa during the current epidemic, had direct contact with a woman stricken by Ebola on Sept. 15, just four days before he left Liberia for the United States, the woman’s parents and Mr. Duncan’s neighbors said.

The dead woman's brother, who helped bring her to the hospital, is dead as well as a few of the neighbors who came in contact with her.

Meanwhile, back at the funny farm that is now our country, Duncan had contact with at least five children (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_CHILDREN_MONITORED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-01-13-20-13) after being turned away from the Dallas hospital after his initial visit.

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Despite national guidelines for evaluating potential Ebola cases and worldwide awareness of an epidemic that has killed thousands in West Africa, a man who later tested positive for the disease was released from a Dallas hospital even though he said he had traveled to Texas from Liberia.

The man returned two days later and was placed in isolation before he became the first person ever diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. But as a result of this lapse, Thomas Duncan was able to leave the hospital and interact with more people while experiencing symptoms, which is when the virus becomes contagious.

Now officials are watching at least 12 to 18 people with whom the man may have come into contact, including five children he may have been around during the time between his hospital visits, officials said Wednesday.

And, since we've now become the rescue nation for the entire friggin world ... (http://www.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/content/20140926-liberians-in-u.s.-gain-two-year-extension-due-to-ebola-epidemic.ece)

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WASHINGTON, D.C. — President Obama on Friday extended the so-called Deferred Enforced Departure for qualified Liberians living in the United States for two years, avoiding the possibility that they could be sent home to a country where the Ebola virus is raging.

U.S. Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., who has been pushing to obtain that extension, called the decision “an act of common sense and decency.” The DED extension affects thousands of Liberians in Rhode Island, home to the largest Liberian population per capita in the country.

Yes, by all means, let us be "fair and decent" to everyone but we American citizens who bear the burden of this "cultural enrichment".

He had to know he was exposed, so, did he know he was infected?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2014, 06:46:18 AM
I've had it with all of this crap...we have been lied to and screwed over from Obama on down to the lowliest libiot bureaucrat and by the Goebbels-worshipping MFM and this entire stinking rotten system...there is NOBODY looking out for the plurality because the Progs have been allowed to be successful in dividing this nation to the point where it cannot function rationally any more.  At some point the root causes of all our misery will have to be dealt with, but I despair that day will ever arrive...the average IQ of the nation being barely above that of common bacteria...

ETA, In the news...

Dallas parents pull kids out of school...predictable, most must be racist white folk though, right?  I mean that is the meme the libiots will push...hysterical white folk reacting to that racist gene again, more proof whitey will never change and must be made to change, eh?

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html?rh=1 (http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html?rh=1)

And, go a step further you end up in the f**ked up mind of Louis Farrakhan - Whitey made Ebola to kill blacks!

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Minister_Louis_Farrakhan_9/article_101804.shtml (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Minister_Louis_Farrakhan_9/article_101804.shtml)

Uhh huh...right.  Light up some more crack Louie, the Mothership be comin'!

And it appears this Liberian national was puking his Ebola-infected guts out (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/breaking-dallas-ebola-patient-vomited-wildly-outside-his-apartment/) outside his apartment before going to the hospital.

Given Pan's links above, it appears Louie is barking up the wrong tree, Obama be keeping these people here, so...this is a black on black crime, dumbass!  Whitey just getting caught in the crossfire!

Meanwhile the Fedcoats are having a whale of a time trying to track down airline passengers who may be exposed to the virus (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2776786/U-S-airlines-contact-government-Ebola-concerns.html), so the potention there, with the kids, friends of this Liberian...more outbreaks are likely.

And from King Barry, the latest in the Obama Regime's "Biggest Lie Ever!" contest - Earnest also said that there "are screening procedures in place at our border."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-we-reminded-border-agents-protocol-after-ebola-case_808448.html# (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-we-reminded-border-agents-protocol-after-ebola-case_808448.html#)!

O'rly?  And nobody asked this POS about the millions that have poured across illegally since his Sith Master took the throne?

 ::cussing::

Totally psychotic, people are totally psychotic to a) trust these people with ANY power! b) trust ANYTHING these people say and c) let them continue doing either!!!


ETA - And isn't this interesting...

Foggy Bottom orders 160,000 Class A HazMat suits?    :o

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-01/how-bad-could-it-get-us-government-order-160000-hazmat-suits-gives-clue (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-01/how-bad-could-it-get-us-government-order-160000-hazmat-suits-gives-clue)

I don't think the entire SecSt payroll has 160,000 on it!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 02, 2014, 10:01:43 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/02/white-house-no-plans-to-block-flights-from-ebola-countries/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/02/white-house-no-plans-to-block-flights-from-ebola-countries/)

Y'all know what I'm thinking; I don't have to write a word.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/02/white-house-no-plans-to-block-flights-from-ebola-countries/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/02/white-house-no-plans-to-block-flights-from-ebola-countries/)

Y'all know what I'm thinking; I don't have to write a word.

Well Pan, the regime can't very well capitalize on a crisis unless there's a crisis. I'd say an outbreak of ebola would be just about the best justification imaginable for a government crackdown on every facet of life.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 02, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
It needs to be screamed from the rooftops that this, and whatever it might turn into, is 100% the fault of liberalism.  I'm real curious to know why the hospital just sent that guy home at first.  Was it the worst sort of bored clerical indifference?  Or did some people make a calculation that, hey it's probably not anything serious, and why put my neck on the chopping block?

And here's another article to add to Pan's:  http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/01/white-house-we-wont-stop-ebola-carriers-coming-to-us/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/01/white-house-we-wont-stop-ebola-carriers-coming-to-us/)

Deliberate, y'all.  It's deliberate.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 02, 2014, 12:04:25 PM
Not going to end well, nope, nuh uh.   ::machinegun::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 02, 2014, 05:16:26 PM
I screengrabbed this from the facebook page of WFAA in Dallas...

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/IronDioPriest/imagejpg1_zps3a7d3a6b.jpg)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 02, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
Well they certainly seem to be taking great precautions with the runoff water don't they?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: richb on October 02, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
i hate the media dot com has begun to call the Obama regime the "Obola administration". 

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 12:06:57 AM
So, basically, the state health authorities in Dallas are condemning 4 people to death by quarantining them in an Ebola infested apartment. We are in the best of hands.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
So, basically, the state health authorities in Dallas are condemning 4 people to death by quarantining them in an Ebola infested apartment. We are in the best of hands.

The CDC should have sent a hazmat team to clean up, inside the apartment and out, in the interest of everybody's protection, not just the family.

Now, about the four people quarantined:  this is why this sort doesn't survive, as those in New Orleans after Katrina sat around waiting for ....... somebody else to rescue them.

Look here: (http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/health/ebola-fatu-family/)

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140925100558-fatuheadgear-horizontal-gallery.jpg)

This West African 22 year-old nursing student cared for and nursed her mother, father, sister and cousin.  She cleaned, fed and medicated all four, losing only one to the virus, and remaining virus-free herself.

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Every day, several times a day for about two weeks, Fatu put trash bags over her socks and tied them in a knot over her calves. Then she put on a pair of rubber boots and then another set of trash bags over the boots.

She wrapped her hair in a pair of stockings and over that a trash bag. Next she donned a raincoat and four pairs of gloves on each hand, followed by a mask.

It was an arduous and time-consuming process, but Fatu was religious about it, never cutting corners.

... She gave them medicines she obtained from the local clinic and fluids through intravenous lines that she started.

The West Africans are instructing others how it's done.  Some may learn and adapt.  For most, a regular hand-washing regime is treated cavalierly.

So now, we know, too.  At the very least, the CDC could have instructed the family how to take care of the apartment themselves, because people like them are not prone to figuring it out and prevailing.

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Well they certainly seem to be taking great precautions with the runoff water don't they?

CHAPTER 7 - ANNEXES
www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/Annex_18_risk_reduction_home_care.pdf (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/Annex_18_risk_reduction_home_care.pdf)

1:5 bleach/water may deal with it; perhaps stronger if the residue can't be contained.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 01:24:35 AM
Take a look at some of the pictures that go with this DailyMail story. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777788/Panicked-parents-pull-kids-school-s-revealed-Ebola-patient-Texas-throwing-place.html) Note the "Dallas County Judge" and two unidentified women seen going into the apartment of death with zero protective gear.

We are in the best of hands. The. Best. Of. Hands.

EDIT: Please also note that the genius apartment property manager* directed the parking area to be pressure washed (presumably to "clean" the vomit from the area). Anyone who has ever been to a self serve car wash and has used a pressure washer will know that the overspray (in the form of aerosolized water) goes everywhere. If there was any hot viral material on that area being sprayed there would be a very real possibility of the worker and anyone close by being misted with it. Look at the pictures of the Red Cross volunteers delivering food to the doorstep of the apartment of death...no gloves, no masks, nothing. That apartment should be evacuated...probably burned. The quarantined people should be moved to a proper isolation facility where they can be observed and (more importantly) prevented from coming into contact with anyone else.

These people, ALL OF THEM, are being WAY too casual with this threat. If this becomes a major outbreak (several more people in this immediate area showing signs of infection in the next week) then people can look back on these pictures and cringe at the way that the "authorities" (literally our mastermind betters) behaved.

*I read another report that gave credit for this move to the CDC. Best of hands.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2014, 01:37:49 AM
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Note the "Dallas County Judge" and two unidentified women seen going into the apartment of death with zero protective gear.

Stupid, stupid, reckless people.  Why would they do such a thing?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 01:46:08 AM
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Note the "Dallas County Judge" and two unidentified women seen going into the apartment of death with zero protective gear.

Stupid, stupid, reckless people.  Why would they do such a thing?

It is because they do not understand the danger. They are, in their minds, experts because they have been elected to high office. A virus wouldn't dare to infect them. They think that they are dealing with something that they can control. They are used to controlling things. They are ignorant of this situation. They do not realize that it is extremely difficult to contain a viral outbreak of this type. Extremely difficult. Instead they treat it as if it were some common criminal that they detain. It will stay contained because they ordered it to stay contained.

Perhaps we will have a new entry for the Darwin Awards come from this.

BTW...the African woman noted above is more lucky than anything else. Great that she took all those precautions and remained uninfected. BUT...all it takes is one lapse in procedure, a finger to the nose, a rubbing of an eye, a droplet that gets inside the gloves and finds its way to a cut...and that's it. A family member that coughs in her face. Anything like that. The amount of viral material needed for infection is unimaginably small. Plus, when a victim is close to death and long after they die the virus is undergoing "amplification" where it turns the body into a viral bomb. The body is dying and the virus is attempting to move to a new host. That should terrify people. The thing is that few know just how deadly the situation is. Ignorance kills.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2014, 02:06:38 AM
The judge and his two companions weren't the only unprotected visitors, and there's no word on their quarantine.  Four deputies entered unprotected and were told to bag their uniforms and go home (to their families!?) and the two squad cars put out of service.  I'm also interested in the two unnamed "family" members who visited, also unprotected, with trashbags.  Where are they now?

Gawdammit, this just keeps getting worse and worse.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 02:06:50 AM
This is what serious people wear to work with ebola victims:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412280868329_Image_galleryImage_MONROVIA_LIBERIA_OCTOBER_.JPG)

Note the above picture. This is a scene from Liberia. They have a pretty serious problem as I think most would agree. What is different between Liberia and the apartment complex in Dallas? Answer: Several thousand miles distance and another continent. The Liberians are treating their situation appropriately. It's bad there and getting worse. In Dallas the party is merely getting started and we have fools walking around the areas of infection like it's nothing.

Here is a story (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/what-ebola-quarantine-photo-shows-person-delivering-food-to-texas-ebola-victims-family/) from GatewayPundit with more photo documentation of genius level Dallas quarantine and clean up procedures.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 02:10:36 AM
Yet another DailyMail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778643/EXCLUSIVE-Friend-Ebola-victim-quarantine-visiting-apartment-sick-man-vomiting-wildly-reveals-fears-CDC-NOT-ordered-stay-indoors.html) story of a man who was in close personal contact with patient zero for several days right up to the point where they were taking him away in the ambulance. Also in contact with patient zero were his three small children. He has self quarantined. The CDC and other "authorities" have not ordered him to do so and he can apparently go wherever he likes.

SIDE NOTE (filed under "Feckless President"): Flashback 2010: Obama Scrapped Critical Quarantine Regulations To Stop Spread Of Disease Into U.S. (http://weaselzippers.us/201468-flashback-2010-obama-scrapped-critical-quarantine-regulations-to-stop-spread-of-disease-into-u-s/)

BESIDE SIDE NOTE (filed under "Feckless Obama Toady CDC Director"): CDC Chief: Banning Travel From Ebola-Hit Countries Would Be “Wrong”… (http://weaselzippers.us/201464-cdc-chief-banning-travel-from-ebola-hit-countries-would-be-wrong/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: richb on October 03, 2014, 02:15:57 AM
This crisis is the direct result of putting hyper active politics before real science.  Something liberals accuse us conservatives on a daily basis!  Political correctness and one hundred years of rotting liberal politics are bringing this African nightmare here to the US.

If the US government truly wanted to protect American citizens,  we would close down the border to Africa yesterday.   And for goodness sakes,  would not ship people HERE to be treated. 

But Barry thinks a flyer given to those just walking off the plane is good enough..................We need to get off the stuck on stupid ...

What is the irony of this being post 666 for me?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 02:17:29 AM
Today's "big" story, though, is that a media person has been infected. It's big because it's the media rather than some "ordinary" person. Again, you just have to rely on DailyMail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778889/NBC-cameraman-diagnosed-Ebola-station-s-chief-medical-correspondent-quarantine-News-team-flown-U-S-Liberia-new-deadly-virus-scare.html) if you want to know what is going on that isn't a pro-Democrat/pro-Obama story...

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NBC News cameraman diagnosed with Ebola and station's chief medical correspondent put in quarantine: News team flown back to U.S. from Liberia in new deadly virus scare

So mission accomplished, I guess. They let a gang of idiots walk around an ebola ward with minimal protection until one of them managed to get infected and then just like that the whole bunch is flying back to the USA. Kinda seems planned.

Here is a picture of genius ABC correspondent "Doctor" Nancy Snyderman doing a photo shoot right next to an ebola ward in Liberia. Note the absence of any protective gear* whatsoever. Pure genius. Go to a hot zone and treat it like it's Brooklyn or Queens.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/03/1412304545052_wps_34_https_twitter_com_DrNancy.jpg)

*Okay, it looks like she has boots on. That's like having a Kevlar scarf in a war zone.

Note also the sign in the background, "Ebola Treatment Unit." There is no treatment of ebola. You live or you die and while you are waiting to find out which they can attempt to ease your suffering. That's the "treatment."
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2014, 02:24:48 AM
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BTW...the African woman noted above is more lucky than anything else. Great that she took all those precautions and remained uninfected. BUT...all it takes is one lapse in procedure, a finger to the nose, a rubbing of an eye, a droplet that gets inside the gloves and finds its way to a cut...and that's it. A family member that coughs in her face. Anything like that. The amount of viral material needed for infection is unimaginably small. Plus, when a victim is close to death and long after they die the virus is undergoing "amplification" where it turns the body into a viral bomb. The body is dying and the virus is attempting to move to a new host. That should terrify people. The thing is that few know just how deadly the situation is. Ignorance kills.

You can call it luck, or whatever you like; I prefer self-discipline ....... and a little luck.

Look, it's good advice.  Fortunately, we have easily available personal resources for hazmat control here.  Maybe we should have a list of what to have on hand besides trashbags.  Just in case.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 02:27:52 AM
The best hazmat control is to stay away from infected people and those who are suspected of being infected.

Problem is that (and I noted this yesterday on this thread) when that happens the country will go full paralysis and the economy will die.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 03, 2014, 02:50:20 AM
Okay, one more DailyMail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779036/My-daddy-going-bathroom-constantly-Victim-s-daughter-reveals-terror-Ebola-quarantine-apartment-use-grocery-store-cleaners-attempt-disinfect-it.html) story. This time it is an interview with the victim's girlfriend's daughter, yet another person who (by their own admission) was in close personal contact with the victim. Here is the key quote from the interview:

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The health workers told the family not to leave their apartment, but when Jallah explained that they didn't have any food they told her that she and her husband could go to the store.

If there is not an outbreak in Dallas you can write it down as a modern miracle.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2014, 07:16:02 AM
Take a look at some of the pictures that go with this DailyMail story. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777788/Panicked-parents-pull-kids-school-s-revealed-Ebola-patient-Texas-throwing-place.html) Note the "Dallas County Judge" and two unidentified women seen going into the apartment of death with zero protective gear.

We are in the best of hands. The. Best. Of. Hands.

EDIT: Please also note that the genius apartment property manager* directed the parking area to be pressure washed (presumably to "clean" the vomit from the area). Anyone who has ever been to a self serve car wash and has used a pressure washer will know that the overspray (in the form of aerosolized water) goes everywhere. If there was any hot viral material on that area being sprayed there would be a very real possibility of the worker and anyone close by being misted with it. Look at the pictures of the Red Cross volunteers delivering food to the doorstep of the apartment of death...no gloves, no masks, nothing. That apartment should be evacuated...probably burned. The quarantined people should be moved to a proper isolation facility where they can be observed and (more importantly) prevented from coming into contact with anyone else.

These people, ALL OF THEM, are being WAY too casual with this threat. If this becomes a major outbreak (several more people in this immediate area showing signs of infection in the next week) then people can look back on these pictures and cringe at the way that the "authorities" (literally our mastermind betters) behaved.

*I read another report that gave credit for this move to the CDC. Best of hands.

The higher the PSI the greater the dispersion too, my BIL has 3600psi units, they raise a ruckus let me tell you! 

This is being treated too lackadaisically IMO, and I think perhaps Pan is right, getting some HazMat gear now while one still can may not be a bad idea, just in case...

Certainly the infected, local authorities and the Feds are not going to do anything...except when it gets bad enough and they turn America into a big version of Escape from New York!

http://www.pksafety.com/clothing/hazmatsuits.html (http://www.pksafety.com/clothing/hazmatsuits.html)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2014, 07:17:11 AM
I'm starting to get a bit freaked out now. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2014, 07:25:27 AM
I'm starting to get a bit freaked out now. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening)

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2014, 07:53:42 AM
I'm starting to get a bit freaked out now. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening)

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola)

Hmmmm.... No. The headline was this:

Exclusive: Thousands from Ebola Nations Allowed to Enter US Without Additional Screening

Looks like they've pulled the story for some reason. The article was very detailed, giving a specific number of people from ebola-infected nations who have traveled into the US since January without screening.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 03, 2014, 08:01:02 AM
I'm starting to get a bit freaked out now. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening)

Just now?  I was worried the second the Outbreak started to finally really spread and on the timetable I predicted  for getting this done before the collapse.  Add to the fact that 2014 has been added to that creepy Illuminati Stonehenge in Georgia that calls for world population of 500 million and  its all WAY to clear whats going on.

Why do you think I have my head down and concentrating on drawing pretty pictures of a Tardis?  If this is where its going, and they are now deliberately spreading a WMD to the American people  there is nothing and no one who can stop it. ( And Yes, at this point we have seen enough evidence of open hostility towards the American People that "federal incompetence" can no longer be assumed to be benignly  motivated.

Be ready to hunker down for an extended period and then at some point to be visited by SWAT and told to report to a camp. Refuse and then Die ( even if Swat leaves they will send a drone to come spray you or gas you..)  Or you can Go to the Camp, and then suffer and die. Hey you might even be chosen for Human experiments!  Fun times. 

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 03, 2014, 09:57:49 AM
I'm starting to get a bit freaked out now. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening)

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola)

Hmmmm.... No. The headline was this:

Exclusive: Thousands from Ebola Nations Allowed to Enter US Without Additional Screening

Looks like they've pulled the story for some reason. The article was very detailed, giving a specific number of people from ebola-infected nations who have traveled into the US since January without screening.

The link works for me.

I got freaked out last night after looking at the slipshod handling by the CDC and related offices of the Duncan-related issue.  And although I can't find the link right now, I read that there are still 1,300 (could have been 13,000) open and issued visas for Liberians to come here.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2014, 10:07:13 AM
I'm starting to get a bit freaked out now. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening)

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/02/Six-ways-feds-screwed-up-Ebola)

Hmmmm.... No. The headline was this:

Exclusive: Thousands from Ebola Nations Allowed to Enter US Without Additional Screening

Looks like they've pulled the story for some reason. The article was very detailed, giving a specific number of people from ebola-infected nations who have traveled into the US since January without screening.

The link works for me.

I got freaked out last night after looking at the slipshod handling by the CDC and related offices of the Duncan-related issue.  And although I can't find the link right now, I read that there are still 1,300 (could have been 13,000) open and issued visas for Liberians to come here.

Yup, works for me now too. The link musta been broken somehow.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 03, 2014, 11:01:29 AM
So, basically, the state health authorities in Dallas are condemning 4 people to death by quarantining them in an Ebola infested apartment. We are in the best of hands.

Quote from: Pandora
The CDC should have sent a hazmat team to clean up, inside the apartment and out, in the interest of everybody's protection, not just the family.

Now, about the four people quarantined:  this is why this sort doesn't survive, as those in New Orleans after Katrina sat around waiting for ....... somebody else to rescue them.


And isn't that just emblematic of this government?  Those things which are genuine, legitimate functions of government (i.e. protecting the country from a disease outbreak) are things they are astonishingly incompetent and lackadaisical at.  But targeting conservative non-profits, or putting up barricades at the WWII memorial, or any of the thousands of other meddlesome, punitive things they do, oh they're very adroit when it comes to that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2014, 11:47:03 AM
I'm starting to get a bit freaked out now. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening)

Just now?  I was worried the second the Outbreak started to finally really spread and on the timetable I predicted  for getting this done before the collapse.  Add to the fact that 2014 has been added to that creepy Illuminati Stonehenge in Georgia that calls for world population of 500 million and  its all WAY to clear whats going on.

Why do you think I have my head down and concentrating on drawing pretty pictures of a Tardis?  If this is where its going, and they are now deliberately spreading a WMD to the American people  there is nothing and no one who can stop it. ( And Yes, at this point we have seen enough evidence of open hostility towards the American People that "federal incompetence" can no longer be assumed to be benignly  motivated.

Be ready to hunker down for an extended period and then at some point to be visited by SWAT and told to report to a camp. Refuse and then Die ( even if Swat leaves they will send a drone to come spray you or gas you..)  Or you can Go to the Camp, and then suffer and die. Hey you might even be chosen for Human experiments!  Fun times.

Resistance is mandatory...and armed!  Molôn Labé!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 03, 2014, 11:50:01 AM
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Patient-With-Ebola-Like-Symptoms-Being-Treated-at-Howard-University-Hospital-278025181.html (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Patient-With-Ebola-Like-Symptoms-Being-Treated-at-Howard-University-Hospital-278025181.html)

If only it was the SCoaMF!!!   ::pullhair::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 03, 2014, 12:35:19 PM
Patient knew he had ebola (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/10/03/Boss-Coworkers-of-US-Ebola-Patient-He-Knew-He-Had-Ebola-US-Trip-Was-Desperate-Attempt-to-Survive)

...and as this develops in the next days, weeks, and months, we can expect desperate people in African countries attempting to flee to the United States in a last-ditch effort to survive, keeping their infection secret - just like Duncan apparently did.

The only solution here is to cut these countries off from the world. Send relief and medical workers IN, on our terms, but let NO-ONE out except those workers, after thorough health screening.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 03, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
Why come here?  Why not North Korea or Cuba?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 03, 2014, 02:13:31 PM
Have you seen this?  Somebody on that United flight from Brussels to DC took a picture of the guy.  Clearly he was already showing symptoms:



(http://moonbattery.com/graphics/ebola-plane.jpg)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 04, 2014, 04:45:53 PM
And now a United flight landing in Newark from Brussels has had a Liberian national removed from the plane by a team in hazmat gear.  He was apparently vomiting on the airplane.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/04/sick-passenger-removed-from-united-flight-by-medical-personnel-in-hazmat-suits/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/04/sick-passenger-removed-from-united-flight-by-medical-personnel-in-hazmat-suits/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 04, 2014, 05:55:20 PM
Our f**king government needs to stop flights from these countries. If they don't, states should compel their airports to refuse allowance to land.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 04, 2014, 11:53:07 PM
Okay, this is probably nothing BUT you won't hear about it from our media. It comes, as usual, from The DailyMail: (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2781004/American-Ebola-survivor-readmitted-hospital-isolation-suffering-persistent-cough-fever.html)

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The third US patient to be treated for Ebola on American soil has been isolated again in hospital after suffering a persistent cough and fever.

Dr Rick Sacra, 51, who contracted the deadly virus while working in Liberia was readmitted to UMass Memorial Medical Center in Worcester, Massachusetts, two weeks after he was cleared.

He was treated at the University of Nebraska Medical Center for the infection last month and was released.

Doctors are said to be performing tests on him to make sure Ebola has not returned, however they claim he has not relapsed - also stressing that the public should not be concerned.

Medical Director Dr Phil Smith told WCVB: 'Even though the likelihood of Dr. Sacra having a relapse of Ebola is extremely low, doctors will run tests to be 100 percent sure.

'Because of his recent battle with the Ebola virus, his immune system is compromised. The symptoms he has are indicative of a respiratory illness and are not those of someone suffering from Ebola,' he added.


The public should not be concerned and yet, they put him in isolation.

Here's the thing: This doctor is a decent guy. He was over there in Liberia risking his life to save people who he did not know. I respect that. A lot. He knew the risks and probably took all of the right precautions and still got infected. For reasons I do not understand he was permitted to come back to the US and receive treatment. And it looked like it worked out...he beat the odds and is alive today instead of dead. I was and am glad that he did not die.

So...now that that's been said...what if he didn't really beat ebola but merely knocked it back for a while? What if it went dormant in his system and is now re-emerging? Or what if it mutated in response to the experimental drugs he received and is now back in some other form? The experts are reasonably sure that ebola can't come back in his system but a lot of other experts claimed that ebola couldn't happen here in the US, either. So...I'm not exactly ready to bet the farm on the word of ebola experts.

I hope, for obvious reasons, that the doctor is going to be alright and that he is not suffering a relapse of his ebola infection. But it really pisses me off at just how casual the healthcare experts are treating this (overall ebola) situation. I have a looming sense of doom with this. It's probably because of the reading that I have done recently ("The Hot Zone") which has seriously gotten my attention as to how incredibly dangerous this disease is. I sure wish that our "leaders" were as scared of ebola as I am.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 05, 2014, 10:34:15 AM
What the heck.

Deadly Marburg Hemmoragic Fever breaks out in Uganda (http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2014-10/05/content_33686011.htm)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 05, 2014, 09:57:50 PM
Marburg is, like ebola, a "philovirus" which is to say that the virus particles resemble strings. Also like ebola, Marburg is highly infectious and has a high mortality rate. It is a disease that requires a level 4 containment (space suits and several levels of decontamination).

According to the linked article Uganda suffered an outbreak in 2012 so they at least have some experience with it. That's encouraging. Perhaps it will stay within Uganda. Uganda isn't as chaotic a place as others in Africa. Could be worse. Could be Libya. Could be Somalia.

In fact...Somalia isn't far from Uganda and is in the same latitude area as the ebola outbreak countries of Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria  and Guinea. Somalia would be a real disaster for an ebola or Marburg outbreak.

Uganda is on the shore of Lake Victoria and the lake has a very long and dark history with ebola and Marburg so it isn't exactly surprising that an outbreak would occur. There is supposed to be an island in Lake Victoria that is overrun with Marburg/ebola infected primates.



Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 06, 2014, 06:59:31 AM
Marburg is, like ebola, a "philovirus" which is to say that the virus particles resemble strings. Also like ebola, Marburg is highly infectious and has a high mortality rate. It is a disease that requires a level 4 containment (space suits and several levels of decontamination).

According to the linked article Uganda suffered an outbreak in 2012 so they at least have some experience with it. That's encouraging. Perhaps it will stay within Uganda. Uganda isn't as chaotic a place as others in Africa. Could be worse. Could be Libya. Could be Somalia.

In fact...Somalia isn't far from Uganda and is in the same latitude area as the ebola outbreak countries of Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria  and Guinea. Somalia would be a real disaster for an ebola or Marburg outbreak.

Uganda is on the shore of Lake Victoria and the lake has a very long and dark history with ebola and Marburg so it isn't exactly surprising that an outbreak would occur. There is supposed to be an island in Lake Victoria that is overrun with Marburg/ebola infected primates.

Things usually settle down once one tribe exterminates another...

I still say we isolate Africa, they got nothing we want or need...why take a chance?  But Emperor Barry is letting everybody pour in...

One day soon a lot of blood gonna pour out...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 06, 2014, 10:41:55 AM
Ann Barnhardt had a post a few days about about this guy from Liberia.  She pointed out the elephant in the room, which is that most of these African countries have an average IQ somewhere in the upper 60s.  In Western countries, an IQ below 80 is considered mentally challenged.  The fictional Forrest Gump had an IQ of 75.

Really you need look no further for the common denominator behind almost all of Africa's continual problems.  It explains why they believe things like sex with a virgin girl will cure AIDS, or the various voodoo/witchcraft nonsense that ends up enabling the spread of other diseases like ebola.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 06, 2014, 12:16:24 PM
Yeah, wierd crap like Vodun, ancestor/spirit worshippers, Santeria, ...

I had an old co-worker from years ago who was from one basket case West African nation...he believed he would feel better and be healed quicker from illness if he shaved all the hair off his head...some bullcrap about "letting the evil spirits out"...

 ::facepalm::

If these idiots believe crap like this then these idiots will believe anything...I bet they think germs in general do not exists...their behavior seems to show that!

Another automatic disqualification for entry into the nation under any circumstance!  But no, the libiots love dumbasses like this?  Law, what law?  Laws are for you, not them!

I want to gut them all like fish!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 06, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/06/officials-u-s-is-not-going-to-have-an-ebola-outbreak/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/06/officials-u-s-is-not-going-to-have-an-ebola-outbreak/)

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... despite health experts’ explanation that a ban would make combating the disease more difficult.

That leading "expert" would by Thomas Friedan, head of the CDC, and he's ..... a friggin lunatic.

A travel ban to the USA isn't going to make it more difficult to treat ebola HERE, but his concern is not for us; it's for the gawdamn turd-world and his open borders ideology.

And every single time I hear any reference to this "a ban would be counter-productive", I want to scream and my b.p. sky-rockets.

LIARS.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 06, 2014, 10:56:56 PM
Ann Barnhardt had a post a few days about about this guy from Liberia.  She pointed out the elephant in the room, which is that most of these African countries have an average IQ somewhere in the upper 60s.  In Western countries, an IQ below 80 is considered mentally challenged.  The fictional Forrest Gump had an IQ of 75.

Well, duh...Democrat voters. Of course they want them here. And voting.

Idiocracy is coming on pretty quick. Gotta go..."Ow, My Balls!" is about to start.

Seriously, though...it looks like we may have, for now, dodged the bullet in Dallas. It has probably been long enough that if someone had been infected by the dumbass from Liberia then we would have seen it by now. Probably. Hope so, anyway. Another day or two for sure but I gotta believe that there would be people with headaches and fever showing up in the emergency rooms at this point.

But...there's always the chance (even odds or better) that we will have a few more ebola infected people come cruising across our southern or northern borders any day now. And actually, a more likely scenario is that someone gets an infection started in Mexico and then we have a whole slew of ebola infected Mexicans charging north for DumbassCare treatment. If it's going to happen it will be before Christmas. That's my guess, anyway.
Title: Obama: I have "larger role" than "taking care of" the American people...(vid)
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 07, 2014, 07:21:55 AM
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“But let’s keep in mind that as we speak, there are children on the streets dying of this disease, thousands of them. And so obviously my first job is to make sure that we’re taking care of the American people, but we have a larger role than that. We also have an obligation to make sure that those (African) children and their families are safe as well (http://patdollard.com/2014/10/obama-my-larger-role-than-taking-care-of-the-american-people-is-to-protect-africa/#YcXkhIz654474KLf.99) because ultimately the best thing we can do for our public health is also to extend the kind of empathy, compassion and effort so that folks in those countries as well can be rid of this disease.”
– Barack Obama

Video at the link...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 07, 2014, 07:56:23 AM
 ::overkill::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 07, 2014, 10:31:03 AM
I am hoping that there's not a suitable animal species here to act as a "storage tank" for the virus.  The disease wreaks havoc in Africa for many reasons, and one of the main ones is that the virus lurks in wild animal populations even when there are no current outbreaks. It seems human beings are a poor long term vector for the virus, it simply kills too quickly and in too great proportion.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 07, 2014, 11:24:52 AM
And if the Fedcoats start going WitSec on these diseased illegals as means to protect them at our expense! (and you know Obama will do it in a heartbeat!)  (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/06/neighbors-of-ebola-patient-facing-discrimination/) and they move in next to me and I find out about it...shots will be fired!

Meanwhile, the odds that this will not spread seems pretty fricken stupid to me (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/cdc-clears-texas-ebola-victims-caregiver-to-return-to-work-as-nursing-assistant/)!!!

 ::cussing::   ::machinegun::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 07, 2014, 12:15:55 PM
I am hoping that there's not a suitable animal species here to act as a "storage tank" for the virus.  The disease wreaks havoc in Africa for many reasons, and one of the main ones is that the virus lurks in wild animal populations even when there are no current outbreaks. It seems human beings are a poor long term vector for the virus, it simply kills too quickly and in too great proportion.

Or its entirely a manufactured thing and the bio labs do testing in Africa in remote places deliberately.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 07, 2014, 01:40:49 PM
What could go wrong?  I hear all these statist douchenozzles like that CDC assclown say this thing is not that hard to get blah blah blah, quit bitching about banning travel from Africa you racist bastards yadda yadda yadda...

Yet...

 from patients they are treating...and we get nothing but happy-happy assurances that [url=http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/defense-department-admits-us-troops-liberia-will-come-contact-ebola-infected-individ]our troops in Ebola country are perfectly safe (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/spain-warns-something-went-wrong-suspected-ebola-cases-rise-madrid}The Spanish have NO CLUE why this Ebola is spreading[/url) and there is nothing to worry about!

There is so much stupid damned pc/diversity/multi-culti crap surrounding any sane discussion of this plague that it is almost CERTAIN to continue spreading!!!

 ::pullhair::

My warning stands...statists and stupid illegals who bring this anywhere near me or mine, they are forfeit, period!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 07, 2014, 10:04:13 PM
I am hoping that there's not a suitable animal species here to act as a "storage tank" for the virus.  The disease wreaks havoc in Africa for many reasons, and one of the main ones is that the virus lurks in wild animal populations even when there are no current outbreaks. It seems human beings are a poor long term vector for the virus, it simply kills too quickly and in too great proportion.

While I share your concern that an animal could become a means of ebola transmission here in North America I am not at all sure about where it hides between outbreaks.

I have been reading a LOT about ebola and from what I have read there is way more that is unknown than is known. This is especially true of where ebola (and Marburg) hides when it isn't busy killing humans.

For instance, one of the earliest known* cases of someone infected with a filovirus (in this case, Marburg) is that of Charles Monet (I excerpted a big chunk of his story from "The Hot Zone" in the other ebola thread in order to describe the progression of the disease and the symptoms), a French expat living in western Kenya. It is theorized that he acquired his infection while on a hiking vacation. During that time he visited a cave on the side of Mount Elgon. Monet visited Kitum Cave on January 1st, 1980 and began to show serious symptoms of a hemorrhagic fever about a week afterward. So the question then is obvious...did he contract the disease inside of the cave, a place that is loaded with fruit bats and their crap? Or was it something else? 

In 1987 a second victim (a ten-year-old male) came down with Marburg. He, too, had visited Kitum Cave just before he became symptomatic.

In 1988 the US Army underwrote a massive investigation of Kitum Cave that involved studying tens of thousands of samples...insects, excrement, soil samples, water samples, air samples...the researchers attempted to infect live monkeys by putting their cages all throughout the cave, etc. In essence they sampled everything that they could think of. They found nothing.

Ebola has been the same way. The investigators have looked far and wide and they have found nothing as to where the disease hides between outbreaks.

Another problem: Ebola and Marburg tend to have such a high mortality rate that outbreaks don't last long enough for researchers to discover very much about it in humans. And let's face it, these are the only times that it can be studied...no one is going to experiment on humans with these diseases because that would be murder, pure and simple.

Which leads us to where we are today. We currently have an ebola outbreak that has a relatively low mortality rate. That's both good and bad. It's good that only about half of the victims die. But because it has a lower mortality rate it is able to spread in a more persistent manner: This time the outbreak isn't ending quickly. It is demonstrating "staying" power. In this way it is like HIV. HIV is a permanent fixture of humans because it takes so long to kill its victims. It is entirely possible that this current strain of ebola will NOT burn out and/or fade away. Not in the third world, anyway.

And let's add one more huge uncertainty, the completely unknown aspect of mutation. As the virus jumps from one host to another it has the ability to mutate. What those mutations can and will be no one knows. It may become airborne. It may become more or less lethal. It may become more or less easily acquired. No one knows.

We know a lot more today about HIV than we did thirty years ago. But the only reason that we know more is because it has been with us and we have had all kinds of opportunity to study it. We may be at the beginning of a long study period with this particular strain of ebola. No one knows.

*The earliest known case of ebola was in September of 1976 where it affected about fifty-five villages near the headwaters of the Ebola River.

EDIT: Spanish government orders nurse's dog euthanized. (http://neoneocon.com/2014/10/07/does-this-make-sense/) Because we smart and you dumb.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 07, 2014, 10:17:27 PM
I have no idea what the current strain of ebola does to its victims other than kill them. The media has been very quiet about how the victims die. I'm sure it is exceedingly unpleasant. Just as a point of reference, though...this is how the Zaire strain works its magic:

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Ebola Zaire attacks every organ and tissue in the human body except skeletal muscle and bone. It is a perfect parasite because it transforms virtually every part of the body into a digested slime of virus particles. The seven mysterious proteins that, assembled together, make up the Ebola-virus particle, work as a relentless machine, a molecular shark, and they consume the body as the virus makes copies of itself. Small blood clots begin to appear in the bloodstream, and the blood thickens and slows, and the clots begin to stick to the walls of blood vessels. This is known as pavementing, because the clots fit together in a mosaic. The mosaic thickens and throws more clots, and the clots drift through the bloodstream into the small capillaries, where they get stuck. This shuts off the blood supply to various parts of the body, causing dead spots to appear in the brain, liver, kidneys, lungs, intestines, testicles, breast tissue (of men as well as women), and all through the skin. The skin develops red spots, called petechiae, which are hemorrhages under the skin. Ebola attacks connective tissue with particular ferocity; it multiplies in collagen, the chief constituent protein of the tissue that holds the organs together. (The seven Ebola proteins somehow chew up the body’s structural proteins.) In this way, collagen in the body turns to mush, and the underlayers of the skin die and liquefy. The skin bubbles up into a sea of tiny white blisters mixed with red spots known as a maculopapular rash. This rash has been likened to tapioca pudding. Spontaneous rips appear in the skin, and hemorrhagic blood pours from the rips. The red spots on the skin grow and spread and merge to become huge, spontaneous bruises, and the skin goes soft and pulpy, and can tear off if it is touched with any kind of pressure. Your mouth bleeds, and you bleed around your teeth, and you may have hemorrhages from the salivary glands— literally every opening in the body bleeds, no matter how small. The surface of the tongue turns brilliant red and then sloughs off, and is swallowed or spat out. It is said to be extraordinarily painful to lose the surface of one’s tongue. The tongue’s skin may be torn off during rushes of the black vomit. The back of the throat and the lining of the windpipe may also slough off, and the dead tissue slides down the windpipe into the lungs or is coughed up with sputum. Your heart bleeds into itself; the heart muscle softens and has hemorrhages into its chambers, and blood squeezes out of the heart muscle as the heart beats, and it floods the chest cavity. The brain becomes clogged with dead blood cells, a condition known as sludging of the brain. Ebola attacks the lining of the eyeball, and the eyeballs may fill up with blood: you may go blind. Droplets of blood stand out on the eyelids : you may weep blood. The blood runs from your eyes down your cheeks and refuses to coagulate. You may have a hemispherical stroke, in which one whole side of the body is paralyzed, which is invariably fatal in a case of Ebola. Even while the body’s internal organs are becoming plugged with coagulated blood, the blood that streams out of the body cannot clot ; it resembles whey being squeezed out of curds. The blood has been stripped of its clotting factors. If you put the runny Ebola blood in a test tube and look at it, you see that the blood is destroyed. Its red cells are broken and dead. The blood looks as if it has been buzzed in an electric blender.

Ebola kills a great deal of tissue while the host is still alive. It triggers a creeping, spotty necrosis that spreads through all the internal organs. The liver bulges up and turns yellow, begins to liquefy, and then it cracks apart. The cracks run across the liver and deep inside it, and the liver completely dies and goes putrid. The kidneys become jammed with blood clots and dead cells, and cease functioning. As the kidneys fail, the blood becomes toxic with urine. The spleen turns into a single huge, hard blood clot the size of a baseball. The intestines may fill up completely with blood. The lining of the gut dies and sloughs off into the bowels and is defecated along with large amounts of blood. In men, the testicles bloat up and turn black-and-blue, the semen goes hot with Ebola, and the nipples may bleed. In women , the labia turn blue, livid, and protrusive, and there may be massive vaginal bleeding. The virus is a catastrophe for a pregnant woman: the child is aborted spontaneously and is usually infected with Ebola virus, born with red eyes and a bloody nose.

Ebola destroys the brain more thoroughly than does Marburg, and Ebola victims often go into epileptic convulsions during the final stage. The convulsions are generalized grand mal seizures— the whole body twitches and shakes, the arms and legs thrash around, and the eyes, sometimes bloody , roll up into the head . The tremors and convulsions of the patient may smear or splatter blood around. Possibly this epileptic splashing of blood is one of Ebola’s strategies for success— it makes the victim go into a flurry of seizures as he dies, spreading blood all over the place, thus giving the virus a chance to jump to a new host—a kind of transmission through smearing.

Ebola (and Marburg) multiplies so rapidly and powerfully that the body’s infected cells become crystal-like blocks of packed virus particles. These crystals are broods of virus getting ready to hatch from the cell. They are known as bricks. The bricks, or crystals, first appear near the center of the cell and then migrate toward the surface. As a crystal reaches a cell wall, it disintegrates into hundreds of individual virus particles, and the broodlings push through the cell wall like hair and float away in the bloodstream of the host. The hatched Ebola particles cling to cells everywhere in the body, and get inside them, and continue to multiply. It keeps on multiplying until areas of tissue all through the body are filled with crystalloids, which hatch, and more Ebola particles drift into the bloodstream, and the amplification continues inexorably until a droplet of the host’s blood can contain a hundred million individual virus particles.

After death, the cadaver suddenly deteriorates: the internal organs, having been dead or partially dead for days, have already begun to dissolve , and a sort of shock-related meltdown occurs. The corpse’s connective tissue, skin, and organs, already peppered with dead spots, heated by fever, and damaged by shock , begin to liquefy, and the fluids that leak from the cadaver are saturated with Ebola-virus particles.

Preston, Richard (2012-03-14). The Hot Zone: The Terrifying True Story of the Origins of the Ebola Virus (pp. 106-107). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.


Let us hope that the current strain does not mutate into anything that resembles the above. The Zaire strain has a 90+% mortality rate and it kills very rapidly. If it or something like it every acquired the ability to spread via airborne means it would be "civilization altering."

EDIT: Ebola survivors are now being told to use a condom for 90 days. Can you guess why?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 07, 2014, 10:23:35 PM

In 1988 the US Army underwrote a massive investigation of Kitum Cave that involved studying tens of thousands of samples...insects, excrement, soil samples, water samples, air samples...the researchers attempted to infect live monkeys by putting their cages all throughout the cave, etc. In essence they sampled everything that they could think of. They found nothing.


Okay, can we  accept the tinfoil hats on our heads and read between the lines here?

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Which leads us to where we are today. We currently have an ebola outbreak that has a relatively low mortality rate. That's both good and bad. It's good that only about half of the victims die. But because it has a lower mortality rate it is able to spread in a more persistent manner: This time the outbreak isn't ending quickly. It is demonstrating "staying" power. In this way it is like HIV. HIV is a permanent fixture of humans because it takes so long to kill its victims. It is entirely possible that this current strain of ebola will NOT burn out and/or fade away. Not in the third world, anyway.


Gee, its almost as if someone found something in the wild, played with its genetic code, and lo and behold, made it into what most would consider to be a bio-weapon. 

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And let's add one more huge uncertainty, the completely unknown aspect of mutation. As the virus jumps from one host to another it has the ability to mutate. What those mutations can and will be no one knows. It may become airborne. It may become more or less lethal. It may become more or less easily acquired. No one knows.

A virus' host is a SINGLE living cell.  Each time it enters one there is a chance of mutation. There is a chance a mistake in replication ( brought on by a stray gamma ray or similar radiation)  will give rise to a mutation that behaves differently.   Yes it could mutate beyond its masters' ability to control. Somehow that isn't a very comforting thought - given that the people in charge are sociopaths and probably are too immoral and insane to care.

We have BOTH marburg and Ebola  surfaciing now. And a collapsing border. And ISIS. And economic trouble.  Hmm. You don't say.
Seriously, read Traps description of how effective this little pest is and tell me a human didn't make it.

Writing is on the wall folks.

Hey did you know they have the entire Classic Series of Doctor Who as a 178 GB torrent ready for download? (https://kickass.to/doctor-who-classic-series-1-26-1963-1989-t153284.html#comment)

Gotta have something to do in the bunker..
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 07, 2014, 10:29:58 PM
One more for this evening. Drudge had this link (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=2) on his site.

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Other public health officials have voiced similar assurances, saying Ebola is spread only through physical contact with a symptomatic individual or their bodily fluids. "Ebola is not transmitted by the air. It is not an airborne infection," said Dr. Edward Goodman of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, where the Liberian patient remains in critical condition.

Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature — and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.

Nice article which doesn't exactly mince words about the reliability of trusting the word of the "authorities" when it comes to how ebola is transmitted. They pretty much say that there is simply not enough known about the disease to issue definitive statements about it.

More...

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"It is highly unlikely that someone would acknowledge having a fever, or simply feeling unwell," Beer said via email. "Not only will they probably not get on the flight — they may even be taken to/required to go to a 'holding facility' where they would have to stay for days until it is confirmed that it is not caused by Ebola. That is just about the last place one would want to go."

Liberian officials said last week that the patient hospitalized in Dallas, Thomas Eric Duncan, did not report to airport screeners that he had had previous contact with an Ebola-stricken woman. It is not known whether Duncan knew she suffered from Ebola; her family told neighbors it was malaria.

The potential disincentive for passengers to reveal their own symptoms was echoed by Sheka Forna, a dual citizen of Sierra Leone and Britain who manages a communications firm in Freetown. Forna said he considered it "very possible" that people with fever would medicate themselves to appear asymptomatic.

It would be perilous to admit even nonspecific symptoms at the airport, Forna said in a telephone interview. "You'd be confined to wards with people with full-blown disease."
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 07, 2014, 10:41:27 PM
Gee, its almost as if someone found something in the wild, played with its genetic code, and lo and behold, made it into what most would consider to be a bio-weapon.

I am very skeptical of that scenario.

Remember that this emerged in the mid seventies and to the best of my knowledge we had just about zero capabilities of engineering/altering (let alone creating) a sub-cellular particle at that time. The computing power, alone, did not exist at that time and has only recently been available for that kind of work.

Also remember that a virus isn't a living organism that can be "bred." It is merely a string or clump of protein molecules that has the ability to attach itself to the outside of certain living cells and then penetrate whereupon it then hijacks the cellular machinery to make copies of itself. One of the things that makes ebola especially bad is that it can attach itself to nearly any human cell.

These facts seem to me to make human tampering with it (up until very, very recently) highly unlikely. And the real (original) thing is certainly bad enough.

EDIT: One more thing...ebola research has most certainly not been the exclusive domain of governments and the Army. There are far too many very knowledgeable people in the fields of epidemiology and virology to allow for a successful conspiracy.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 07, 2014, 11:36:43 PM
Gee, its almost as if someone found something in the wild, played with its genetic code, and lo and behold, made it into what most would consider to be a bio-weapon.

I am very skeptical of that scenario.


Thats fine. Lets address the skepticism.

We have reached a stage of technology where teenagers can build gene sequencers in their basement. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2304413/Teenager-astounds-scientists-building-DNA-testing-machine-bedroom--did-discover-brother-ginger.html)

So how many years has the military with billions in black dollars at their disposal had the ability to do so?

The first Gene synthesis was in 1972 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gene_synthesis)

PCR has been around since 1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction)

Marburg was "discovered" in 1967
Ebola was "discovered" in 1976


Yes they have have had LITERALLY over 30 YEARS to work with Ebola and Marburg to turn them into weapons.
Did they succeed 10 years ago?
4 months Ago?
Does it matter?

I suspect that they had a sufficient bio weapon years ago.
The trick was having a vaccine and a cure.

A cure  for Ebola was discovered in 2012 (http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/did-scientists-just-discover-cure-ebola-62212)
A vaccine was discovered about the same time (http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/human-trials-ebola-vaccine-11812)

People willing to kill some 5 Billion aren't going to worry about "human trials" which is why there have been constant outbreaks of Ebola and Marburg in Africa.

How about MK-Ultra and the long history of US Bio-weapons reasearch?
And for whistle-blowers in the field, how about Garth Nicholson?

Dr. Garth Nicolson - Weaponized Mycoplasmas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT25HhAVhhU#)


Now lets talk about the "mutations" (http://www.vox.com/2014/8/28/6071071/ebola-sequencing)

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Using genetic sequences from current and previous outbreaks, the researchers mapped out a family tree that puts a common ancestor of the recent West African outbreak some place in Central Africa roughly around 2004. This contradicts an earlier hypothesis that the virus had been hanging around West Africa for much longer than that.The data, on the whole, supports what epidemiologists have already deduced about how the virus spread into Sierra Leone. More than a dozen women became infected after attending the funeral of a traditional healer who had been treating Guinean Ebola patients and contracted the disease.

One surprise from the paper is that two different strains of Ebola came out of that funeral. This suggests that either the healer was infected with two different strains or that another person at the funeral was already infected.

Got that?
READ. BETWEEN. THE. LINES
Seriously. Two PEOPLE. at the same Funeral. Infected with TWO DIFFERENT STRAINS. In ONE YEAR.  2004.


And then there is this helpful graphic in the same article.

(http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/AifrOhkR7y6-YUSbshzNZDbgcUg=/700x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/1395746/Ebola_infographic.0.png)

This keeps popping up. Notice the DIFFERENT survival rates.  Almost as if someone was testing different strains  in order to find one that will kill quickly,but not too quickly.

Year, after year after year.  But this year. The year our Southern Border collapses.  The Year ISIS retakes Iraq. The year that Obamacare really kicks in.  This year is the year Ebola ( and Marburg!)  break free.

You are welcome to be skeptical Trap.  I respect you and your opinion.
But the pile of co-inky-dinks has gotten too great for me.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 08, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
Personally, I think that the real danger to us all (and by that I mean the human race) is that we are, collectively, too stupid to survive.

Our entire gene pool is literally in one basket of eggs, the Earth. We have been able to establish off planet colonies since the early seventies and yet, here we are, still on the same rock waiting for something to literally wipe us out. The USA, arguably the most technologically advanced country in the entire world, does not even have a functional manned space program anymore.

Example the stupid: I don't know if this link (http://imgur.com/gallery/uhk8k) is true or BS but I am inclined to believe it is true. At the link are alleged pictures of the "isolation" ward in Spain.

Anyway, despite the info that you have cited in your post I am still skeptical. Why? Because it implies that someone or many someones is/are putting themselves and their progeny at risk for some nefarious goal. That, for me, defies logic. It would be similar to some person or power having the ability and will to steer a planet-killing asteroid or comet at the Earth's surface (for reasons unknown), shrugging their shoulders and saying, "I'll take my chances while my plan is brought to its conclusion." To me that is a stretch.

Obviously, in the world of possibilities, it is a possible thing. Is it a likely thing? I'm skeptical.

But I have in recent years (the fall of 2008 seems to be the kicking off point) come to have great faith in the overall stupidity of a majority of people. We elect people who do very, very stupid things. And these elected people are, by all available evidence, very stupid themselves. Sure, they can't all be Sheila Jackson Lee but they are far from smart and have little to no acquaintance with common sense. And yet, we elect them. The electorate seems unable to connect the dots between their own suffering and the overlords that they elect. We didn't used to be this way. But a majority of us are dazzlingly stupid now and there seems to be little chance for that trend to reverse itself.

No, we are just too stupid to live and that's the big problem from where I view things.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2014, 07:00:52 AM
Somehow the link between the stupid and the scary seems entirely man-made.  I for one am not to inclined to dismiss Weisshaupt's fears in any way, given everything that has happened in the past and everything that is happening now with greater and greater frequency...it would be foolish to not consider the insane, the unthinkable and the preposterous as entirely possible and perhaps even probable.  As with all such things not having all the pieces or not aligning the pieces we think are correct in the proper order may lead to incorrect conclusions, but considering and discussing the possibilities is beneficial for all.

To bottom-line this, there is no way one can fully protect oneself and ones family from everything, and evil people know that...like the idiots who put those stupid "Guns are banned from this building" signs up...the crop of diseased leadership we have has been allowed to put up every stupid sign conceivable on our nation!  The "We enforce immigration laws" and "We don't allow the diseased to enter our nation" signs were sh*t-canned years ago! 

Time will tell where this story and all the others end...if anybody is left to record it...

Seems like the race to the drain just keeps picking up speed...

God help us.

ETA - Holy Guano, Batman!  You see Drudge's graphic this AM?!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Obama%20Admin/ebOla_zps31b7e8c1.jpg)

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

It is there to plug a NY Slimes piece about Dem's treating the POSOTUS as toxic waste...like Ebola...but it fits the open borders/free Ebola access to America policy of the SCoaMF just as well!

And this is probably too close to reality to chuckle too long...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/10/20141007_ebola.jpg)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/artists-impression-how-americans-perceive-government-ebola-statements (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/artists-impression-how-americans-perceive-government-ebola-statements)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 08, 2014, 07:53:17 AM

Anyway, despite the info that you have cited in your post I am still skeptical. Why? Because it implies that someone or many someones is/are putting themselves and their progeny at risk for some nefarious goal. That, for me, defies logic. It would be similar to some person or power having the ability and will to steer a planet-killing asteroid or comet at the Earth's surface (for reasons unknown), shrugging their shoulders and saying, "I'll take my chances while my plan is brought to its conclusion." To me that is a stretch.


Group think is a powerful thing  They may have convinced themselves that their vaccines will protect them. After all this is being brought to you by people who are convinced that Utopia is just around the corner if we all "believe in hope and change" and that "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"
Rational thought is NOT a highlight of the leftist world view. Yes it defies logic because defying logic is what LEFTISTS DO.
They don't plan ahead. They don't think too hard about consequences.  They rely on wishful thinking.  And you can bet they have a bunker prepared if something goes wrong. That may not work of course, but if they believe it will, that won't bother them. .

   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzddAYYDZkk#ws)

Do you really think the people in charge are any smarter than those portrayed in Dr. Strangelove?

We all hoped that they weren't this evil and stupid, but the evidence is suggesting otherwise. This outbreak happening now  isn't coincidence  just like 50 Hard drives at the IRS failing at the same time isn't coincidence. The likely-hood of an event isn't in question AFTER its happened.  We have EBOLA patients- DELIBERATELY ALLOWED into the country and went  where? ALL OVER.  Miami, Nebraska, Chicaco, Dallas.... Not  a quarantine ship in the bay. Yes they could just be that stupid. Or they could be that stupid and have an agenda.  We will know soon - If the outbreak in the United States results in road blocks and martial law you will have your answer. Mind the actual spread of the contagion can be small - as long as it generates the required panic and a crisis they won't let go to waste.

 
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No, we are just too stupid to live and that's the big problem from where I view things.

And what if our overlords feel the same way? Its not like the Eugenicist bent in the Obama Administration ( and those most likely to be pulling its strings)  is a secret.
 
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 08, 2014, 10:27:52 AM
The Ebola patient in Dallas has died.  Just got a notification from a news app on my phone.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/texas-ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-has-died-hospital-says-n221141 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/texas-ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-has-died-hospital-says-n221141)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2014, 11:30:11 AM
Well, that means at best those he came into contact with have maybe a week or two to live...

I imagine that kind of news would want to be supressed by the PTBs...unless a panic is what they desire to start...

And is this "48" number accurate for the total who may have come in contact with this guy? (http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/dallas-ebola-patient-has-died-20141008)  The fact that hundreds are typically on an overseas flight screams "Hell, No!" to me!



ETA - Well heck, that didn't take long...

Racist twit Sheila Jackson Lee hints at racism behind not treating Duncan...

http://weaselzippers.us/201950-sjl-death-of-ebola-patient-who-came-here-knowing-he-had-virus-a-tragedy-hints-he-was-delayed-treatment/ (http://weaselzippers.us/201950-sjl-death-of-ebola-patient-who-came-here-knowing-he-had-virus-a-tragedy-hints-he-was-delayed-treatment/)

...I guess that would be the racist Obama's racism at work, eh, Poophead?!

 ::mooning::

Stupid pig!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 08, 2014, 02:26:10 PM
Another Ebola patient in Dallas - had contact with Duncan.

Wonderful (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 08, 2014, 02:42:04 PM
Another Ebola patient in Dallas - had contact with Duncan.

Wonderful (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms)

Yup.

And now, once the animals have escaped, Obama tries to close the barn doors... (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-08/homeland-security-orders-agents-monitor-all-travelers-us-general-signs-illness)

 ::facepalm::


Oh, and RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, the backdoor (see southern border) remains wide open!!!

 ::cussing::

God it sucks in ObamaWorld!!!

 ::pullhair::

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 08, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
People voted for fundamental transformation.  They're damn sure getting it.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 08, 2014, 10:17:04 PM
Another Ebola patient in Dallas - had contact with Duncan.

Wonderful (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms)

Yep. So perhaps I spoke too soon about dodging the bullet.

Hard to say, though. We should know definitively within the next 24 to 48 hours. They will examine his blood for live virus and if it's there he is in big trouble.

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The patient, Michael Monnig, was transported from a Frisco Care Now facility where he was complaining of “stomach issues,” according to sources.

Monnig’s children told CBS 11’s Andrea Lucia that their dad woke up this morning feeling sore and a little nauseated.

The soreness is a warning sign but it should be accompanied with a fever. The nausea may or may not be an indicator because usually the vomiting shows up later rather than earlier. But then, it is very likely that we are seeing incomplete reporting on this story...we don't know what we don't know. (btw, kudos to whoever wrote this and properly used the word, "nauseated.")

Also in big trouble would be the "experts" that told him and his family that because he had had no direct contact with the victim he was not in any danger. That is utter nonsense. The guy was in the apartment for 30 minutes...more than enough time to touch an infected surface and then rub his eye or touch his nose. That's all it would take. Plus, he was NOT on the CDC list of people to be observed. Comforting.

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Monning was not one of the 48 people being monitored by federal, state and local health officials because he never had direct contact with the patient.  Monnig did enter the apartment where Duncan had stayed before being admitted to the hospital.

He was in the apartment for 30 minutes, which we were told is no chance to contact the virus,” said Logan.

Now that is just a flat out lie if accurate.

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“We were told by federal officials, county officials that you would have to come in direct contact with Duncan or direct contact with bodily fluids, and he did not,” said Monnig’s son, Logan, about the possibility of his dad contracting Ebola.

Perhaps this sounds mean and nasty but I don't care: If anyone deserves to be infected it is the judge who oversaw this idiocy. That guy deserves to die for treating this so casually.

And...if this guy is infected and if the family was told that there was no (zero) danger of infection the public will take a big step toward either believing they are being lied to or believing that the "experts" are idiots. Neither one of those choices is a good outcome. You can mark that point (should it happen) as when people began to panic.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Predator Don on October 08, 2014, 10:19:29 PM
So.....is it time to order the gas mask yet?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 08, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
So.....is it time to order the gas mask yet?

I would be way more concerned about touching public surfaces if this gets bigger.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2014, 06:30:08 AM
Surfaces? 

This guy is reported to have had zero physical contact with the carrier...and if he indeed contracts it...

It means only one thing - airborne!!!

They keep dancing around this because they do not want to set off a panic...or because they do but at a more opportune time...like when dozens or hundreds start dropping like flies...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 09, 2014, 08:47:50 AM
If it's gonna peak into a panic, it's gonna be right about the first week in November.

Hmmm...

 ::thinking::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2014, 09:38:02 AM
I hope Obola does executive order amnesty...perhaps that is what it will take to arouse enough people to take to the streets... 
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 09, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
I hope Obola does executive order amnesty...perhaps that is what it will take to arouse enough people to take to the streets...

I'm thinking he doesn't want people in the streets. He wants the country shut down at election time. It's too perfect.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 09, 2014, 10:48:24 AM
In the Middle Ages, siege forces used to catapult dead plague victims into fortifications as an early form of biowarfare.  Our would-be rulers should consider that it's still a viable tactic.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: benb61 on October 09, 2014, 10:55:10 AM
I just wonder when some Dallas sewer worker is diagnosed with Ebola.  Duncans vomit and other waste material went somewhere.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 09, 2014, 11:08:48 AM
Yeah, and a sewer system would be a good hiding area for it.  My understanding is that the virus is quite vulnerable to ultraviolet light, so it doesn't last very long in direct sunlight.  But a sewer main would be nice and dark for it.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
Rats, mice, raccoons...city workers...

 ::exitstageleft::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2014, 11:36:25 AM
Oh oh...

WHO Admits Sneezing Could Transmit EBOLA! (http://im41.com/archives/196829)

No shyt?!

Well, just in case...

http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/10/straight-line-of-the-day-if-you-think-you-have-ebola-the-first-thing-you-should-do-is/ (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2014/10/straight-line-of-the-day-if-you-think-you-have-ebola-the-first-thing-you-should-do-is/)

And, the Obola Effect is spreading, even in Libiot-heavy LA!

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/obama-ebola-bumper-stickers-appear-around-los-angeles (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/obama-ebola-bumper-stickers-appear-around-los-angeles)

More ridicule followed by runing all of the bastards out of town on a rail...that would be swell!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 09, 2014, 11:42:11 AM
Ridicule is the most potent social/cultural weapon.  Their own mastermind Alinsky said that.  The spread of that "Obola" meme can do more damage than electing any amount of feckless GOPers.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 09, 2014, 12:08:34 PM
The workers who clean airplanes at LaGuardia have gone on strike. (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-10-09/ebola-fears-drive-laguardia-s-airplane-cleaners-to-strike)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2014, 12:33:51 PM
Ridicule is the most potent social/cultural weapon.  Their own mastermind Alinsky said that.  The spread of that "Obola" meme can do more damage than electing any amount of feckless GOPers.

Agreed.

The Obola Regime, it's a killer!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2014, 12:34:39 PM
The workers who clean airplanes at LaGuardia have gone on strike. (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-10-09/ebola-fears-drive-laguardia-s-airplane-cleaners-to-strike)

 ::ohno::

 ::creepycryingbaby::

Racist crybabies!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 09, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Well, good for them!

Lakeland Industries (LAKE), a maker of hazmat suits with sealed seaming, soared more than 65% due to growing Ebola fears. (http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/09/investing/lakeland-hazmat-suits-ebola/index.html?section=money_markets&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_markets+%28Markets%29)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 09, 2014, 02:17:40 PM
Libertas aren't you in the health care industry?  You are probably familiar with those portable units they put in a room to disinfect it with ultraviolet light.  I bet the stock for those manufacturers will be soaring.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 09, 2014, 04:15:28 PM
Dallas Sheriff's Deputy: Negative for Ebola (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/09/sheriffs-deputy-who-was-hospitalized-after-with-indirect-contact-with-dallas-ebola-victim-doesnt-have-the-disease/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 09, 2014, 09:09:52 PM
Surfaces? 

This guy is reported to have had zero physical contact with the carrier...and if he indeed contracts it...

It means only one thing - airborne!!!

They keep dancing around this because they do not want to set off a panic...or because they do but at a more opportune time...like when dozens or hundreds start dropping like flies...

Surfaces are absolutely a hazard. The victims are literally pumping out hot viral material from every part of their body during the latter stages of the disease. If they get perspiration on a door knob, if their vomit is not thoroughly removed, etc. and these surfaces are 1) touched by someone who then 2) touches their own eyes, nose or mouth...that's all it takes.

Now, that said, the viral material cannot stay viable on a surface forever. I am guessing that it will cease to be dangerous after several hours. So, one of the people entering the apartment (not to mention those who were prevented from leaving) could have contracted the disease under the right circumstances without direct contact with the victim.

Fortunately the sheriff's deputy tested negative.

And...I am also guessing that the virus is probably not viable in a sewer system (too much water and not enough appropriate cellular material). But that's just a guess.

I think that a more serious danger for the USA will be from our southern border. If the disease gets started up in any of the third world cesspools that lie to our south we can expect a flood of refugees (both infected and otherwise) to start heading north. That would be bad.

Another thought: Perhaps this situation will result in otherwise stupid and ignorant people learning that the world is an exceedingly dangerous place. Modern society in an industrialized country is, if nothing else, insulated from the reality of nature. That reality? Damned near everything wants to or can kill you. Maybe some people will begin to figure out this rather uncomplicated truth.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 09, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Oh, and by the way...did anyone hear about the UK guy (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786874/Breaking-news-British-man-dies-suspected-Ebola-Macedonia-UK-victim-virus-killed-thousands.html) who croaked in Macedonia? No test results yet but I would probably bet on it being ebola or Marburg. The guy showed up at a hospital vomiting and bleeding inside and out from everywhere. Then he died. Quickly.

And he was traveling with a friend who is now symptomatic.

They quarantined the entire hotel where he was staying. Plus the EMS people who were involved with him.

I'm guessing that we will hear more about this one.

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Dr. Jovanka Kostovska of the ministry's commission for infectious diseases said the man had been suffering from fever, vomiting and internal bleeding, and that his condition deteriorated rapidly.

'These are all symptoms of Ebola, which raises suspicions with this patient,' Kostovska told a news conference, adding that samples had been sent to Germany for tests to confirm the cause of death.

Staff of the hotel where the two Britons stayed have also been quarantined, as have the ambulance team and medical staff that treated the deceased.

UPDATE: Now they are saying that he probably died from binge drinking. They are saying that the symptoms are similar. Hmm...well, I get the vomiting from a serious round of drinking but I've never heard of fever, diarrhea and massive internal bleeding (and reportedly three days of these symptoms) being symptoms of drinking.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2014, 07:18:26 AM
Well, I'm glad the Deputy is negative, and hopefully this thing dies out...but there are a lot of people potentially exposed to this that may not be out of the woods yet, nor anybody they've been in contact with.

But...

We still have idiots like this running the CDC  (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/09/cdc-chief-why-dont-support-travel-ban-to-combat-ebola-outbreak/)that think the more the merrier!

We still have the math issue (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-ominous-math-of-the-ebola-epidemic/2014/10/09/3cad9e76-4fb2-11e4-8c24-487e92bc997b_story.html) regarding virus reproduction.

We have idiots from Obola on down who know or are clueless like this moonbat (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/9/us-commander-warns-ebola-threat-mexican-border/#!) about what aleady is pouring across our borders unimpeded.

But somehow we have suited-up goons ready to take guys down on airplanes after they sneeze and announce "I have Ebola...you're all screwed" (http://thoughtcatalog.com/james-b-barnes/2014/10/ebola-scare-on-us-airways-man-sneezes-then-jokes-about-having-just-come-from-africa/) ...

Yeah...

I'm sure we'll all be just fine!

PS-Should have realized...

http://weaselzippers.us/202075-family-of-ebola-patient-thomas-duncan-gearing-up-for-lawsuit/ (http://weaselzippers.us/202075-family-of-ebola-patient-thomas-duncan-gearing-up-for-lawsuit/)

...whereever one of the Justice Bro's goes, there's a shakedown about to unfold!

Hey, Duncan family idiots?  Maybe he would have had better care back in Africa from a Witch Docter!   ::hysterical::

 ::mooning::

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 10, 2014, 09:30:29 AM
And on related good news we are getting ever closer to the point in time where anyone in contact with Duncan should have gotten sick by now.

That's good news.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 10, 2014, 10:29:59 AM
UPDATE: Now they are saying that he probably died from binge drinking. They are saying that the symptoms are similar. Hmm...well, I get the vomiting from a serious round of drinking but I've never heard of fever, diarrhea and massive internal bleeding (and reportedly three days of these symptoms) being symptoms of drinking.

My guess would be that he had acute liver failure from alcohol poisoning, and the other symptoms were due to the liver no longer doing its job.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 10, 2014, 11:58:52 AM
More on that pesky math stuff...

Ebola cases in West Africa double about every 3-4 weeks (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/UN_EBOLA_UN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-10-12-08-23)...maybe that math only works in West Africa...

We can rest easy...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 12, 2014, 08:43:04 AM
Dallas Health Care Worker Tests Positive For Ebola
Was wearing protective gown, gloves, mask and shield (http://news.yahoo.com/state-health-officials-2nd-ebola-case-texas-102955708.html)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 12, 2014, 11:32:34 AM
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If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.

Yeeaahhhh, the "firsts" just keep on keeping on, don't they.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2014, 02:20:18 PM
Quote
If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.

Yeeaahhhh, the "firsts" just keep on keeping on, don't they.

First POTUS to contract Ebola...why can't we get that one?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 12, 2014, 02:30:38 PM
Quote
If the preliminary diagnosis is confirmed, it would be the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.

Yeeaahhhh, the "firsts" just keep on keeping on, don't they.


Same thing with the nurse in Spain.  She was wearing all the standard protective gear and still contracted it.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 12, 2014, 02:55:46 PM
The nurse in Spain "admitted" she touched her face.  Go figure.
 
So, what I'm reading now is there is a proper way to take off the protective gear in order to not infect yourself or anyone/anything else with what's on it.  I'm no rocket scientist, but they haven't thought of decontamination chambers where the hazmat suit is sprayed down before undressing?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 12, 2014, 03:02:29 PM
Spain is near collapse....budgets cuts or never saw a need is what I am guessing.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Predator Don on October 12, 2014, 07:25:27 PM
Is it time to order the gas masks?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 12, 2014, 09:22:40 PM
Is it time to order the gas masks?

I've been wondering about this myself.  We have a bunch of N95 masks, but from what is being discussed, needed is a full-face mask with its own respirator as the '95 doesn't seal to the face well enough.

The full-face w/respirator is not cheap - $100+ bucks apiece
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 13, 2014, 12:14:50 AM
Some detail on the Texas nurse's situation: (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/12/the-texas-nurse-who-contracted-ebola-was-wearing-a-protective-suit-shes-not-the-first-western-health-professional-to-have-a-suit-fail-her/)

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As news erupted Sunday morning that a female nurse in Texas had been infected with Ebola, perhaps the most frightening part of the story was the revelation that she came in contact with the first U.S. Ebola patient during his second hospital visit — meaning she didn’t catch the virus unawares, before health workers knew the man had Ebola.

Rather, she was fully dressed in a protective suit — gown, gloves, mask and shield — when she interacted with the man who since died of his Ebola infection.

Yeah, I know...it's a duplicate of what IDP posted this morning but it ties in with the following...

Here is a thought provoking article about health care workers in the Ebola era...

When Ebola Protection Fails (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/346/6205/17.full)

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Omeonga, along with two other health care workers infected in Liberia, Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol, has received widespread media attention for receiving an experimental cocktail of antibodies called ZMapp. All three survived; none of them knows if the treatment helped. But all three wonder about another question that has important implications for other health care workers: How did they become infected?

Surprisingly, no one has a firm answer. “Every day I'm still thinking, When was I contaminated?” Omeonga says, although he suspects the hospital director was the source. Writebol, a clinical nurse associate who worked for a missionary group called SIM at the ELWA 2 Ebola Treatment Center in Monrovia and helped health care workers don and doff PPEs, is similarly stumped. “Nobody is really sure, least of all me,” she says. Brantly, a doctor in the same center, also has only hunches but says, “I am fully convinced that I did not contract Ebola in my work in the treatment unit.”

Also, if you are interested in reading an academic paper on the viability of filoviruses on solid surfaces here is a detailed article (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2672.2010.04778.x/full) on the topic.

The bottom line is that the "experts" just really don't know for sure how this thing can be transmitted. So, stay paranoid.

How Thomas Eric Duncan spent his final days and hours (it's pretty awful)... (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/17b709cea02d445d9ca2e462bebe37bb/ap-enterprise-records-chronicle-duncans-decline)

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By Oct. 1, sepsis had set in.

Duncan tried to remain upbeat.

"Pt requested to watch an action movie," the doctor noted. "States he is feeling better."

Duncan told his nurse he wanted to try solid food, then refused his lunch tray.

The next morning, Duncan told his attendants that his abdominal pain had lessened. He said he was "trying to keep up good spirits and 'stay strong.'"

But there was now blood in his urine. Worried about his lung function, doctors added advanced antibiotics to Duncan's medication.

That afternoon, he ate his crackers and drank less than 2 ounces of Sprite.

By Oct. 3, the situation had turned dire.

Another probable false alarm...should know tomorrow... (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/10/12/braintree-hospital-isolates-patient-with-ebola-like-symptoms/BJk9dYCxIbcapX6f9CIwtN/story.html?p1=Topopage:Test_B:Main_headline)

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The Boston Public Health Commission has confirmed that the patient who walked into a Braintree medical clinic and was later transported to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center “does not meet criteria to be considered someone at high risk for Ebola.”

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

According to Harvard Vanguard, the patient had recently traveled to Liberia and came to the facility complaining of headache and muscle aches.

Doesn't say he had fever, though, so maybe they are right.

But wait, there's more: LAX has West African passenger exhibiting symptoms, too. (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/10/12/LAFD-Respond-to-Man-Believed-to-Have-Ebola-at-LAX)

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The Los Angeles Fire Department arrived at 1:28 p.m. to Los Angeles International Airport responding to reports that an ill patient on an in-bound flight was vomiting and exhibiting flu-like symptoms, prompting fears of an Ebola exposure, CBS Los Angeles reported.

There were 142 passengers and six crew members on the plane. Captain Jamie Moore from the LAFD said at an afternoon news conference that the department followed protocol mandated by the Centers for Disease Control, after being notified that the ill woman had contact with West Africa.

Not a great time to be traveling by plane. Not if you are in a hurry.

Army troops at Ft. Campbell, KY prepare to head to Africa... (http://news.yahoo.com/u-military-faces-kind-threat-ebola-055717486--finance.html)

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(Reuters) - At Fort Campbell in Kentucky, spouses of U.S. soldiers headed to Liberia seem to be lingering just a bit longer than usual after pre-deployment briefings, hungry for information about Ebola.

For these families, the virus is raising a different kind of anxiety than the one they have weathered during 13 years of ground war in Afghanistan and Iraq. They want to know how the military can keep soldiers safe from the epidemic, a new addition to the Army's long list of threats.

"Ebola is a different problem set that the division hasn't (faced) before," said Major General Gary Volesky, who will soon head to Liberia along with soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division.

My son is currently stationed at Ft. Campbell but he is thankfully not with the 101st Airborne. I'm still concerned, though.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 13, 2014, 06:38:31 AM
I think Drudge has it about right this morning...

CDC = Center for Disease Confusion.

 ::unknowncomic::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 13, 2014, 06:58:58 AM
I personally think our military commanders should refuse the order to deploy to these zones. For Christ's sake, make a stand for your men and your country against this malevolent CiC!!!

Their oath to defend the constitution does not include wallowing in bio-toxic sludge for no militaristic purpose. If they were being deployed to airports to oversee a ban on flights out of the country or some such thing, fine. But providing medical/humanitarian assistance at ground-zero for a plague endangers them for no reason, and endangers their own families, and our entire country. The possibility of a plague running rampant through our military jeopardizes our nation's ability to defend itself.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 13, 2014, 07:04:11 AM
They would rather get everyone killed than to fight stupid orders let alone defy PC/diversity/multi-culti doctrine...

The Purges have not been random, most of what is left behind from general staff to senior field commanders and down is strutting yes-men.

Welcome to the Latter Days of America...

If I were in now, I'd be getting out by any means necessary...even if it meant a less than honroable discharge...after all, who cares what they say?  Just GTFO!  This is not our father's military any more...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Predator Don on October 13, 2014, 01:33:39 PM
Why is the military involved at all? Are there not dozens of "humanitarian" type groups to do the "humanitarian" type things?  Somebody better grow a spine before a disease turns their bones to jelly.

My group is watching this very carefully. It may be time for some more ammo and foodstuffs....and a full face mask.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 13, 2014, 02:16:59 PM
Ever since the UN and Progressive Dem's saw an avenue to morph the US military into a humanitarian tool and a captive social experiement it has gone downhill...troops, salilors are marines were designed to break crap and kill people, period.  Now, the Pentagon celebrates that new mission!

 ::pullhair::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 14, 2014, 12:27:16 AM
NBC "Health" correspondent violates "voluntary" quarantine and thus sentences entire news crew to mandatory quarantine. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790507/nbc-chief-medical-correspondent-accused-violating-ebola-quarantine-visit-favorite-soup-restaurant.html)

"Doctor" Nancy Snyderman, a close personal friend of HRC they say, just had to visit her favorite soup restaurant.

Idiot.

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101st Airborne prepares/trains for suicide mission to Liberia (lots of photos 'cause DailyMail) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790677/us-troops-prepare-war-ebola-soldiers-receive-intense-training-deployment-liberia-families-fear-safety.html)

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It is thought (trap-by idiots) that with the right training and precautions, the risk of infection for soldiers earmarked for the battle against the deadly virus is low.

But the soldiers' families are still desperate to know how the military can keep their loved ones safe from the epidemic - a new addition to the Army's long list of threats. (trap-IT CAN'T)

As soldiers prepare to face the deadly virus, it emerged over the weekend that a nurse who treated Ebola 'patient zero' Thomas Duncan in Dallas, Texas, had contracted the virus - despite wearing all the correct protective clothing and following safety protocols. (trap-click on this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level#Biosafety_level_4) for a brief reminder of what bio-safety level 4 equipment and protocols* are supposed to be like...think these hospitals have this stuff? No?)

Nina Pham, 26, from Fort Worth, Texas, is currently in a stable condition with the virus in an isolation unit.

The only sensible way to deal with this thing:

Nuke the entire site fom orbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q#ws)

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Also read somewhere today that the infected nurse in Spain had a grand total of 30 minutes of training time before being tested under fire.

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The new standard in air transportation safety: Treat literally anyone who becomes airsick as a potential Ebola victim. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791693/terrifying-moment-team-hazmat-wearing-officials-boarded-boston-plane-removed-five-passengers-flu-like-symptoms-despite-not-having-africa.html)

Um, yeah, but each airline seat comes with an airsickness bag because puking on a flight isn't uncommon. This may, in and of itself, kill the airline industry.

Probably another false alert BUT...these people (presumably men) had just returned from Meca where they had been doing the jihadi bump and grind with several thousand other muslims (sort of a gigantic islamo-ebola blender) and it would be totally unexpected if some of them weren't from Africa so...who knows?

The jihadi pilgrimage to Meca DOES offer a very unique and opportunistic scenario for the Ebola virus to spread itself into a new area. Personally, it's difficult for me to imagine a much more heart-warming vision than several thousand islamic nut jobs with hemorrhagic fever puking, bleeding and sh*tting all over themselves instead of proudly hacking another innocent's head off.

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When dealing with biological hazards at this level the use of a positive pressure personnel suit, with a segregated air supply is mandatory. The entrance and exit of a level four biolab will contain multiple showers, a vacuum room, an ultraviolet light room, and other safety precautions designed to destroy all traces of the biohazard. Multiple airlocks are employed and are electronically secured to prevent both doors from opening at the same time. All air and water service going to and coming from a biosafety level 4 (or P4) lab will undergo similar decontamination procedures to eliminate the possibility of an accidental release.

And if you poke around at the link it becomes pretty obvious that the hospital in Dallas (and Spain and nearly everywhere else) is using bio-safety level 1 and/or 2 procedures and equipment. Brilliant. These are the much vaunted CDC protocols that the experts just can't figure out as to why they have a viral infection on their hands.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2014, 06:29:41 AM
The jihadi pilgrimage to Meca DOES offer a very unique and opportunistic scenario for the Ebola virus to spread itself into a new area. Personally, it's difficult for me to imagine a much more heart-warming vision than several thousand islamic nut jobs with hemorrhagic fever puking, bleeding and sh*tting all over themselves instead of proudly hacking another innocent's head off.

I love a story with a happy ending!  And as far as Ebola goes, the only happeir ending to this outbreak would be Obola & Co getting it as well.

Fate, karma, Devine Intervention...the universe would be put back in balance! 

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 14, 2014, 07:10:49 AM
Trap mentions the hospitals using only level-1 or 2 bio-safety, but that is all they have, they were never planned to have anyting higher because the need was never there.

This poor 26 year old nurse, Nina, is getting a transfusion from an Ebola survivor who matches her blood type (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791089/first-picture-devoted-texas-nurse-fighting-life-catching-ebola-treating-man-brought-dreaded-virus-america-beloved-dog-s-quarantine.html), I hope she makes it!  My sister being an RN this makes me nervous, and now she is on a mission to Guatemala and took her eledest boy along with.

And there are about 70 people who may have come into contact with Duncan (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_HOSPITAL_STAFF?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-13-18-45-19) to worry about!

And the desure to establish a top-level bio-containment hospital in each state (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-13/ebola-monitoring-to-include-medical-staff-after-infection.html) to treat highly infectious diseases like Ebola makes sense, but it is not going to happen overnight, so...

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Predator Don on October 14, 2014, 11:32:39 PM
I am sitting on ready to order my masks.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 15, 2014, 02:18:07 AM
Tonight's installment of the Ebonics epidemic...

Seems that the boyfriend of the newly infected Dallas nurse has himself been admitted (http://gotnews.com/ebola-nurse-boyfriend-reportedly-admitted-ebola-symptoms/#comment-4495) to the same hospital in (get ready for it) an abundance of caution. And to make matters more interesting, said boyfriend works at Alcon (http://www.alcon.com), a company that specializes in eye products. Wonderful.

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An email sent out to the Alcon staff by its CEO reportedly said that the ebola nurse’s boyfriend was admitted into hospital with “Ebola-like symptoms.”

Gotnews.com has received word from two different Alcon employees, both of whom asked not to be identified.

Alcon’s U.S. headquarters are in Fort Worth, Texas. It is an ophthalmological pharmaceutical company.

Requests for comment from Alcon were not returned.

As a reinforcement to my post from last night here is a pdf file (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/ppe-poster.pdf) of the CDC's protocols for putting on and taking off PPE. Yeah, you can totally see how someone could get infected by following this procedure.

Don't believe me? (I know you do but I had to ask) Follow this link (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/14/quotes-of-the-day-1882/) to HotAir's Quotes of the Day and scroll down to see the video of CNN's medical "expert" attempting to follow said protocol and proving that it does not work.

More: Can't find the link right now but I read today that it is supposed to take 20 health care workers to care for each individual Ebonics victim. If that's true it won't take very many infected people to completely shut down health care in the US. After all, if you have most (if not all) medical staff caring for Ebonics victims then there is no one left to care for anyone else. OR...alternate scenario: This guarantees that if you go to the hospital or the local quick clinic for (pick your reason) you are all but assured that you WILL be seen by one or more people who have recently (like fifteen minutes ago) been wiping Ebonics puke off of themselves.

And...since (pretty much most) hospitals have been demonstrating for years that they are incapable of halting staph infections, (http://spectator.org/articles/60649/ultimatum-nurses-make-mistake-and-you-die) well...connect the dots.
 
Thanks to the feckless CDC director starting in on the post-Duncan finger pointing and blame-gaming, the nurses' union has decided to take the gloves off and spill their collective guts (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2792457/Ebola-patient-cared-70-hospital-staffers.html) about the godawful mess that was/is Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital...real life leftist circular firing squad:

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Nurses at the Dallas hospital where the first patient died of Ebola in America have spoken out to insist there were no protocols for dealing with the disease in place - and claim that no hospital in the country is prepared to deal with the deadly virus.

The director of the National Nurses Union RoseAnn DeMoro directly contradicted the CDC's initial claim that a breach in protocol lead to the infection of Nina Pham as she treated Thomas Eric Duncan.

She said: 'Our nurses are not protected, they're not prepared to handle Ebola or any other pandemics,' DeMoro said.

'The protocols that should have been in place in Dallas were not in place and are not in place anywhere in the United States, as far as we can tell.'

The nursing union says that Thomas Eric Duncan was left in an open area of a Dallas emergency room for hours, and the nurses treating him worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols.

It says nurses were also forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient with explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting.

They also make the frightening allegation that nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital at the same time.

The highlights from this little (probably totally justified) bitch-fest:

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- Thomas Eric Duncan was not isolated immediately when he was finally admitted to the hospital with Ebola symptoms
Nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital

- He was 'left for several hours in an area where other patients were present,' said Burger, who said that seven patients were in the vicinity of Duncan

- Patients who may have been exposed to Duncan were kept in isolation only for a day before being moved to areas where there were other patients

- A nursing supervisor faced interference from hospital chiefs when they demanded Duncan be isolated

- The protective clothing the nurses were wearing when they initially treated Duncan left their necks and heads exposed
When they reported this to their superiors, the nurses were told to use surgical tape and wrap it around their necks instead to close the gaps

- 'They were told to use medical tape and had to use four to five pieces of medical tape wound around their neck. The nurses have expressed a lot of concern about how difficult it is to remove the tape from their neck,' said Burger

- The nurses made the shocking allegation that during Duncan's care, hazardous waste was dumped in a room and built up to the ceiling

- Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff

- In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose

Best and brightest at work and getting paid.

Final thought for tonight:

It is beginning to look more than a little obvious that President DumbAss is purposefully allowing the Ebonics epidemic to become firmly established in the USA. And by that I mean that it is beginning to look obvious to even the very dull-witted amongst us. Polling is running something like 60+% in favor of shutting down all air travel from Africa and there is one of those stupid BO petitions to do just that with lots and lots of signers (suckers) who think that if they just ask BO to do it then he certainly will. This IS going to be BO's legacy: Death and destruction at home due to wretchedness and idiocy. Nothing is going to be done until it affects the big business cronies. And by then it will be too late. Yee-haw.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2014, 07:10:21 AM
Not surprised the nurses union led the charge to expose the shoddy practices, but this was to be expected, the secret the industry does not want to get out is out - they were, are and continue to be totally unprepared to handle anything remotely this infectous.  Which, in any sane person's thinking would mean NOT restricting travel to and from the regions of the globe where this is prevalent would be positive indication of a wreckless and actionable act whereby each and every citizen in this nation should be raising bloody Hell!

But, f**k it, dancing with the retards is on!

 ::pullhair::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 15, 2014, 08:49:20 AM
Now, another nurse who cared for Duncan. (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/15/Texas-dept--2nd-person-tests-positive-for-Ebola)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 15, 2014, 08:51:53 AM
Morning thoughts:

If I was a paranoid conspiracy type person one thing I might be pondering is if the reason for allowing Ebolo to proliferate isn't to kill off a few billion worldwide to "heal the planet." This was a major plot point in Tom Clancy's novel, "Rainbow Six." Just a thought.

Second thought: I am about to embark on a mini-family-vacation to a major destination point in America. We do not know where along the trip path we might run into some of President DumbAss's disease riddled illegal aliens. We have no idea if we might encounter an Ebolo vector along the way (admittedly very unlikely at this time). So...we are going to put some protocols of our own into place. We are going to make sure that we wash hands frequently and rigorously all along the way. We are going to sterilize public toilet seats (because, yeah, you can catch Ebolo from a toilet seat) with Chlorox wipes. We are going to avoid exchanging cash/coins for transactions. We will sterilize credit cards after they are handed back. And we will do anything else that we can think of that might limit our exposure to any publicly available pathogen. We will be doing this not because it is likely that we might come into contact with Ebolo or anything else at this time but rather to get into practice because of what might be coming in a few more weeks or months.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: ToddF on October 15, 2014, 10:17:28 AM
I recently undertook a mini family vacation to a major destination point in America in which a member was watching forest fires that might possibly encroach upon his residence.  After having done such, I have to note that dam, Trap, you have a lot so stoner beggers out your ways, now.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 15, 2014, 10:48:25 AM
Now, another nurse who cared for Duncan. (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/15/Texas-dept--2nd-person-tests-positive-for-Ebola)

...and she flew from Ohio to Dallas the day before she was diagnosed. (http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-diagnosed-in-second-dallas-nurse-105542930.html)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
Great...

Every airline is EbolaAir...

 ::facepalm::

Completely  ::cussing::  up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is everybody Obola-stupid?!?!?!



ETA - Speaking of Obola-level stupid...

Can we state the brutally obvious fact that we will NEVER rid Ebola from America until first we rid America of Obama and minions like Dr Thomas Frieden?!?!?!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/cdc-director-frieden-if-we-ban-travel-from-west-africa-ebola-well-be-at-higher-risk-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/cdc-director-frieden-if-we-ban-travel-from-west-africa-ebola-well-be-at-higher-risk-video/)

My God, what a stupid, psychotic SOB!!!   ::speechless::

QUARRANTINE AFRICA!!!

Jayyyyzzzzusssssssssssssss!   ::pullhair::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 15, 2014, 11:33:53 AM
I'm not seeing how this is stopped at this point. It has been confined to isolated outbreaks in Africa that burn themselves out specifically because the locations where it struck were not mobile societies.

We are the most mobile society on earth. Now that it is introduced here, it won't be stopped.

And we must ask ourselves, why is this not cropping up in Russia? China? Really, why not anywhere but its origination point of Africa, and subsequently in Europe and the United States?

I think there heretofore unimaginable is in our imminent future. I think Weisshaupt is right. The last vestige of individual liberty on earth has been targeted by its own government for the most heinous evil, and this is it.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
All I know is I wanna hurt somebody, we who did not ask for any of this evil to be visited upon us are the only ones who can righteously be pissed off and make those who did this and allowed all this to happen to pay the price.

If we survive that is...

More evil racist pukes to keep in mind should they survive...

http://weaselzippers.us/202586-sheila-jackson-lee-blames-gop-for-ebola-outbreak-claims-they-cut-funding-to-cdc/ (http://weaselzippers.us/202586-sheila-jackson-lee-blames-gop-for-ebola-outbreak-claims-they-cut-funding-to-cdc/)

http://weaselzippers.us/202566-dem-hack-donna-brazile-has-no-sympathy-for-second-nurse-who-contracted-ebola-she-knew-the-risks/ (http://weaselzippers.us/202566-dem-hack-donna-brazile-has-no-sympathy-for-second-nurse-who-contracted-ebola-she-knew-the-risks/)

There's a couple of useless ones, eh? 

PS-Just heard Rush come up with the quote of the day that should be a campaign slogan for all against Obola! - "If just one child could be saved by stopping flights from Africa..."

Booyah!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 15, 2014, 11:47:39 AM
It's spreading into America and Europe because we're the two places filled with guilt-ridden white liberals who would literally rather see their own countries develop into plagues rather than be "discriminatory" by blocking travel from Africa.  Russia and China aren't nearly that stupid.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 15, 2014, 11:51:56 AM
And yes, I'm honestly worried about this now.  I don't see the spread being stopped at this point.  This may well be their ace in the hole to quash an insurgency.  You can't spark a rebellion with a deadly plague spreading at random.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2014, 12:02:55 PM
If they infect me...i'm gonna kiss every damn democrat I can find with lots-o-tongue till I drop dead!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 15, 2014, 12:20:42 PM
And yes, I'm honestly worried about this now.  I don't see the spread being stopped at this point.  This may well be their ace in the hole to quash an insurgency.  You can't spark a rebellion with a deadly plague spreading at random.

Go get food, water, gas and other fuel right now.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 15, 2014, 01:04:19 PM
And yes, I'm honestly worried about this now.  I don't see the spread being stopped at this point.  This may well be their ace in the hole to quash an insurgency.  You can't spark a rebellion with a deadly plague spreading at random.

Go get food, water, gas and other fuel right now.


I ordered a couple of buckets of the Mountain House food.  And I already have several jerry cans full of fuel.  Nothing is ever enough though, it seems.  My thinking to this point has always been centered around having enough emergency supplies to allow me to get to my bug out location in the mountains. That could be unrealistic though, if road transportation becomes difficult.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 15, 2014, 02:00:49 PM
And yes, I'm honestly worried about this now.  I don't see the spread being stopped at this point.  This may well be their ace in the hole to quash an insurgency.  You can't spark a rebellion with a deadly plague spreading at random.

Go get food, water, gas and other fuel right now.


I ordered a couple of buckets of the Mountain House food.  And I already have several jerry cans full of fuel.  Nothing is ever enough though, it seems.  My thinking to this point has always been centered around having enough emergency supplies to allow me to get to my bug out location in the mountains. That could be unrealistic though, if road transportation becomes difficult.

A possible scenario in any and all cases unless you pre-empt the situation which means leaving before it looks like you need to.

So ... get busy.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Predator Don on October 15, 2014, 02:27:54 PM
Ebola kills 1 million.....unemployment drops to 5%.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 15, 2014, 02:39:30 PM
Morning thoughts:

If I was a paranoid conspiracy type person one thing I might be pondering is if the reason for allowing Ebolo to proliferate isn't to kill off a few billion worldwide to "heal the planet." This was a major plot point in Tom Clancy's novel, "Rainbow Six." Just a thought.


Welcome to my World Trap.  It is not a coincidence this is happening now. Opps sorry. Election is called off, we can't count the ballots safely. We can't have that many people comin to the same place and spreading the contagion. Its a national emergency you understand.  That is why we have , in the name of safety , deployed mandatory "paper's please" check points and deployed the us military and placed everyone under martial law.

Seriously Trap. That is what this is for.  Okay, bad to burning DVDs. Gonna need them for sitting in my home for months ....

But hey, i could be wrong.  Maybe they will just let the disease spread without actually giving up the election - after all they can just come in an mop up later with 80%  of the country dead.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2014, 02:39:51 PM
And yes, I'm honestly worried about this now.  I don't see the spread being stopped at this point.  This may well be their ace in the hole to quash an insurgency.  You can't spark a rebellion with a deadly plague spreading at random.

Go get food, water, gas and other fuel right now.


I ordered a couple of buckets of the Mountain House food.  And I already have several jerry cans full of fuel.  Nothing is ever enough though, it seems.  My thinking to this point has always been centered around having enough emergency supplies to allow me to get to my bug out location in the mountains. That could be unrealistic though, if road transportation becomes difficult.

A possible scenario in any and all cases unless you pre-empt the situation which means leaving before it looks like you need to.

So ... get busy.

Yeah...

Call in sick and skedaddle...

What's the worst that can happen?  Miss a few days of work, burn some vacation time...get fired?

Better to have fled than be dead...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 15, 2014, 02:41:01 PM
Ebola kills 1 million.....unemployment drops to 5%.

Ebola kills 10 million, unemployment is zero...of course so is the labor force participation rate...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 15, 2014, 02:42:41 PM
Ebola kills 1 million.....unemployment drops to 5%.

Ebola kills 10 million, unemployment is zero...of course so is the labor force participation rate...

Fixes the unfunded liabilities the govt has as well.
Can't I be wrong just once in a while ?


Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 15, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
And yes, I'm honestly worried about this now.  I don't see the spread being stopped at this point.  This may well be their ace in the hole to quash an insurgency.  You can't spark a rebellion with a deadly plague spreading at random.

Go get food, water, gas and other fuel right now.


I ordered a couple of buckets of the Mountain House food.  And I already have several jerry cans full of fuel.  Nothing is ever enough though, it seems.  My thinking to this point has always been centered around having enough emergency supplies to allow me to get to my bug out location in the mountains. That could be unrealistic though, if road transportation becomes difficult.

A possible scenario in any and all cases unless you pre-empt the situation which means leaving before it looks like you need to.

So ... get busy.

Yeah...

Call in sick and skedaddle...

What's the worst that can happen?  Miss a few days of work, burn some vacation time...get fired?

Better to have fled than be dead...

Well .... not exactly advocating that, just pointing out the reality of stocking up where you are right now, as well as your BOL.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 15, 2014, 06:49:07 PM
Now CBS is reporting that nurse #2, Amber Vinson, called the CDC the day of her flight, informed them of a 99.5 fever, and got an all-clear to board the airplane.

WTF. God help us.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: benb61 on October 15, 2014, 06:52:47 PM
Now CBS is reporting that nurse #2, Amber Vinson, called the CDC the day of her flight, informed them of a 99.5 fever, and got an all-clear to board the airplane.

WTF. God help us.

That's less than 1 degree off normal and probably within the measuring device error band.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 15, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
Now CBS is reporting that nurse #2, Amber Vinson, called the CDC the day of her flight, informed them of a 99.5 fever, and got an all-clear to board the airplane.

WTF. God help us.

Did she inform them she'd been attending to an Ebola patient, Duncan? 

“She should not have traveled on a commercial airline,” said CDC Director Tom Frieden. Still, the risk for other passengers traveling alongside Vinson is low, he said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-health-department-statement-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola-article-1.1974828?hshhshshhshs&utm_content=buffera0a23&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=NYDN+Facebook (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-health-department-statement-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola-article-1.1974828?hshhshshhshs&utm_content=buffera0a23&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=NYDN+Facebook)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 15, 2014, 07:46:19 PM
I've had about enough of the CDC trying to deflect blame by suggesting these two nurses violated procedures that don't even exist (in fact it seems everything is a barely concealed fustercluck). They could have gone a long way towards preventing arrival of a Patient Zero by banning entry to people from the affected areas. But they would not, still will not, and we all know the reason why.

When you have a President Zero, you're bound to have a Patient Zero.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 15, 2014, 09:26:59 PM
Why the hell is Rove on Hannity's show right now pontificating about this issue?!  WTH does he know anyway?!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 16, 2014, 12:39:22 AM
I've had about enough of the CDC trying to deflect blame by suggesting these two nurses violated procedures that don't even exist (in fact it seems everything is a barely concealed fustercluck). They could have gone a long way towards preventing arrival of a Patient Zero by banning entry to people from the affected areas. But they would not, still will not, and we all know the reason why.

When you have a President Zero, you're bound to have a Patient Zero.


Everything Is AWESOME!!! -- The LEGO® Movie -- Tegan and Sara feat. The Lonely Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y#ws)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2014, 06:32:21 AM
Ebola kills 1 million.....unemployment drops to 5%.

Ebola kills 10 million, unemployment is zero...of course so is the labor force participation rate...

Fixes the unfunded liabilities the govt has as well.
Can't I be wrong just once in a while ?

I wish you could be...sometimes...   ;)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2014, 06:51:06 AM
Some JurnoTards think the Obola's Ebola outbreak might start affecting commerce...

...Oops!  Too late, airline stocks are falling (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AIRLINES_EBOLA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-15-18-41-39), and it is just a matter of when not if travel and tourism dip...and retail (especially restaurants...and if you're in African cuisine you are already screwed).

And I think we'll be seeing more of this (http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/15/passenger-wears-a-hazmat-suit-to-dulles-airport-photo/), although I would add Islaminal garb so as to avoid being harassed by TSA idiots.

And more on PO'd nurses caught in this man-made maelstrom (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/10/15/Nurses-We-Were-Told-to-Call-Authorities-for-Ebola-Protocol), they do most the daily heavy lifting in any hospital and the culture of figuring it out on the fly is in no minor way a by-product of the often adversarial nurses union vs hospital management dynamic...most orientation and new training of nursing staff comes as a result of collective bargaining, something out of the blue like Ebola is gas on a fire.

Meanwhile, Prez Obola, our beneficent spreader of third world contagions...is still processing hundreds of visa's per day in Hot Zone nations (http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/16/us-embassies-ebola-stricken-countries-still-processing-visas-non-us-citizens/) as he enters into his Confab to whip up a PR spin for this intentional outbreak...and all a useless Pubbie Leader of a dying party can say is  "Gosh golly gee whiz...maybe the President should consider a travel ban?" (http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/boehner-travel-ban-should-be-considered-president-ebola-crisis-worsens), yeah...consider...

Obola and the little ObolaTards and useless trolls like Boehner and his merry band of Pubbies are not the solution...they are the problem.

How fricken hard is it for people to see that?

Apparently, pretty fricken hard...

 ::unknowncomic::


ETA - More news on the Ebola front:

Family home of 2nd Dallas person sealed off (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/2nd-ebola-patients-akron-ohio-family-home-cordoned), they did nothing wrong, so I hope idiots don't target them.

And, I sure hope there is no relation/conflation between this need over there (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/ebola-context-liberia-needs-80000-body-bags-1-million-hazmat-suits) and this reality back here (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/dallas-commissioners-will-declare-state-disaster-tomorrow-over-ebola-fears)?!?!?!




More ETA -

And let's debunk the BS coming out of DemonRat mouths right now!  The BS on funding CDC/NIH was level under Bush, if anything it declined under Obama...both of course with Congressional help...

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=http://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/files/2014/10/NIH-Inflation.jpg)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/10/15/the-absurd-claim-that-only-republicans-are-to-blame-for-cuts-to-ebola-research/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/10/15/the-absurd-claim-that-only-republicans-are-to-blame-for-cuts-to-ebola-research/)

The WaPo, not a wholey-owned subsidiary of Pubbies, gives their BS four Pinocchios!!!!

ETA - Holy Guano, Batman...look what these idiots blow money on instead of infectious diseases!

Helmets, because nothing says "Stop Ebola!" like a helmet, I guess...

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2/19318/Motorcycle-Article/AMA-Cries-Ebola-in-CDC-Helmet-Critique.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2/19318/Motorcycle-Article/AMA-Cries-Ebola-in-CDC-Helmet-Critique.aspx)

Video games, cause...sh*t, I dunno...beat Ebola in a video game and you win!  I guess...

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/01/18/where-will-money-go-in-10-million-study-of-video-games-and-violence/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/01/18/where-will-money-go-in-10-million-study-of-video-games-and-violence/)

Injury prevention, violence prevention, all that social crap...because that will stop diseases dead in their tracks!  I guess...

http://www.cdc.gov/injury/index.html (http://www.cdc.gov/injury/index.html)

They're more organized for your kid bouncing a soccer ball off their noddle and going unconcious than they are diseases!  Because, nothing beat disease like good PR, I guess...

http://www.playgroundprofessionals.com/encyclopedia/n/national-center-injury-prevention-and-control (http://www.playgroundprofessionals.com/encyclopedia/n/national-center-injury-prevention-and-control)

And "Community Norms"!  Whatever the frack that is...I guess it is norm for the community to do this stuff and worry about those minor highly infectious diseases some other time, I guess...

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/efc-promoting-positive-community-norms.pdf.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/efc-promoting-positive-community-norms.pdf.pdf)

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/fundedprograms/foa/ce13-1303.html (http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/fundedprograms/foa/ce13-1303.html)

And lookie here!  Like everybody in the Obola Regime, if Congress says one thing, screw it, do another!  Becuase, hey, all this other stuff is more important than the people's priorities as expressed in LAWS!  I guess...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/2000-02/02/013r-020200-idx.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/2000-02/02/013r-020200-idx.html)

 ::cussing::  assholes!!!   ::laserkill::

Another ETA - Let's not forget to document the bonuses CDC doled out!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/16/cdc-blames-cuts-for-ebola-response-pays-millions-i/# (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/16/cdc-blames-cuts-for-ebola-response-pays-millions-i/#)!

That's money that could have maybe saved one child from the ravages of Ebola!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2014, 11:13:26 AM
WTF is this?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336)

Guard, from where?  Who's state?  Which punk-ass Governor is letting this stupid idea go unchallenged?!  A President cannot abscond with a states Guard units on a whim!

And reading between the lines...how much of this is a) regular force pushback we are not hearing about and b) Obama punishing another states citizens he doesn't like?

Somebody has to tell this thug to bugger off!!!!!!

ETA -

Hey, a ray of hope!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/should-barack-obama-be-isolated-and-monitored-after-kissing-hugging-ebola-nurses-video/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/should-barack-obama-be-isolated-and-monitored-after-kissing-hugging-ebola-nurses-video/)

 ::praying::

 ::popcorn::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2014, 11:18:19 AM
And...

Now we have to assume every ambulance call concerns an Ebola patient, since the authorities are telling people not to use the "E" word!

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26802920/911-emergency-dispatchers-instructed-not-to-say-ebola-over-radio (http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26802920/911-emergency-dispatchers-instructed-not-to-say-ebola-over-radio)

 ::cussing::  PC/diversity/multi-culti cultists will get people DEAD!!!!   ::pullhair::   ::rockets::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 16, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
They've already got people dead, perhaps not from Ebola (yet), but certainly from the enterovirus-68 that has killed several children already.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: ToddF on October 16, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336)

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President Barack Obama is expected to issue an executive order Thursday paving the way for the deployment of National Guard forces to Liberia to help contain the Ebola outbreak there, sources told NBC News.

God help us.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 16, 2014, 01:48:33 PM
Military leadership needs to refuse. Governors need to refuse.

Make a stand, for God's sake.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: AlanS on October 16, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
Military leadership needs to refuse. Governors need to refuse.

Make a stand, for God's sake.

Government officials lost cajones long ago.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Predator Don on October 16, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336)

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President Barack Obama is expected to issue an executive order Thursday paving the way for the deployment of National Guard forces to Liberia to help contain the Ebola outbreak there, sources told NBC News.

God help us.





Unless we are going to kill the population, how in the hell is a national guard soldier going to contain this disease?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 16, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY#)

Jelly Bean. Boom.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 16, 2014, 02:33:56 PM
That clipboard goobermint assclown not gowned up...on purpose!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-16/idiotic-explanation-why-idiot-clipboard-was-unprotected (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-16/idiotic-explanation-why-idiot-clipboard-was-unprotected)

FUBAR!!!

And, on the contagion threat front...

"We have a worst-case scenario, and you don't even want to know," warns Alessandro Vespignani, a researcher creating simulations of infectious disease outbreaks, but there could be as many as two dozen people in the U.S. infected with Ebola by the end of the month. The projections only run through October because it’s too difficult to model what will occur if the pace of the outbreak changes but, as Bloomberg reports, Vespignani warns if the outbreak becomes more widespread in other regions, it "would be like a bad science fiction movie."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-16/researchers-expect-over-20-us-ebola-cases-weeks-you-dont-want-know-worst-case (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-16/researchers-expect-over-20-us-ebola-cases-weeks-you-dont-want-know-worst-case)

Of course the CDC bozo's disagree...wtf else would those clowns say?

 ::)

BOHICA!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 16, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336)

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President Barack Obama is expected to issue an executive order Thursday paving the way for the deployment of National Guard forces to Liberia to help contain the Ebola outbreak there, sources told NBC News.

God help us.





Unless we are going to kill the population, how in the hell is a national guard soldier going to contain this disease?


The National Guard soldier won't do anything to contain the disease.  What he will do is become a new vector for the disease, which is exactly why he's being sent there in the first place.

It's like the movie Aliens.  Ripley and the marines were sent out there to unwittingly return examples of the organism.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pablo de Fleurs on October 16, 2014, 10:01:23 PM
On Drudge...(sorta')

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/gablabs/2014%20Blog%20Art/StopTheFlights_zps6a39d183.jpg)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2014, 06:44:42 AM
I lke your version better Pab's...that "asshole" comment really puts the perfect finishing touch on it!   ::thumbsup::

Ted Cruz, one of the few to be on top of this from Day One, says Congress should come back to session and act on a travel ban (http://about.bgov.com/2014-10-16/cruz-says-congress-called-back-ebola-travel-ban/).

It is just a matter of time before an incident like this  (http://nypost.com/2014/10/16/alarm-after-vomiting-passenger-dies-on-flight-from-nigeria-to-jfk/)leads to a riot at 30,000 feet.  But hey, I've boycotted air travel for several years now so I won't personally have to participate in any of this, but other people may not be so tolerant of the lax treatment the Ebola risk is being given by Team Obama & Co!

Kinda makes you think they want this disease to get a good foothold here, eh?

And stories like this don't help much (http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/alert-delta-airline-flight-1760-this-is-how-pandemics-begin-shocking-radio-call-in-youve-got-to-hear-this-one)!

 ::outrage::

Have no fear...ObolaCare is here!

(http://tpc.pc2.netdna-cdn.com/images/Ebola_Obamacare_Vote_Poster.jpg)

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/ebola-not-contagious-until-after-nov-4-election-says-cdc-t15096.html (http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/ebola-not-contagious-until-after-nov-4-election-says-cdc-t15096.html)

And, well...cannot say this is really outside the realm of the possible the way things are going, eh?

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/obama-declares-november-4th-a-national-day-of-quarantine-t15094.html (http://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/obama-declares-november-4th-a-national-day-of-quarantine-t15094.html)

God, does Latter Day America suck!!!

Cue Charlton Heston rant from the original Planet of the Apes...

 ::pullhair::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 17, 2014, 08:52:09 AM
Obola lab worker on a cruise ship today. Has just been put into quarantine in cabin of boat. This was a hospital worker that the CDC was alleged to have been monitoring.

Belize will not let the ship dock because...they have a travel ban.

(Abbreviated post because I'm on vacation...family rigorously washing hands and wiping surfaces everywhere)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 17, 2014, 09:21:46 AM
Fear of Ebola is racist  (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/16/west-ebola-response-black-patient?)( via instapundit)


Hey Liberals - its time to prove how non-racist you are.  Just like you voted for a black man for President to prove you aren't racist, now its time to deliberately inject yourself with Ebola virus to prove the same.  After all its just a
 
Quote
"not-so-subtle, almost completely rhetorical stand-in for any combination of “African-ness”, “blackness”, “foreign-ness” and “infestation” – a nebulous but powerful threat, poised to ruin the perceived purity of western borders and bodies"

So what possible harm could come to you?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 17, 2014, 10:18:06 AM
Hey everyone, you can settle down now.  President Obola has just named an Ebola Czar.  Now, if you were thinking why in the hell do we need a "czar" and isn't this exactly what the CDC and NIH are supposed to be for, I guess you're just a racist teabagger.  Maybe if you hadn't forced the budget sequester the CDC would have been able to handle this (though they did handle giving out millions of dollars in bonuses, just like the equally incompetent VA did).
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
Hey everyone, you can settle down now.  President Obola has just named an Ebola Czar.  Now, if you were thinking why in the hell do we need a "czar" and isn't this exactly what the CDC and NIH are supposed to be for, I guess you're just a racist teabagger.  Maybe if you hadn't forced the budget sequester the CDC would have been able to handle this (though they did handle giving out millions of dollars in bonuses, just like the equally incompetent VA did).

Ron Klain.   ::unknowncomic::

"He does not have any extensive background in health care but the job is regarded as a managerial challenge."

"A former chief of staff to Vice President Joe Biden and also to then-Vice President Al Gore, Klain is currently President of Case Holdings and General Counsel of Revolution, an investment group. He has clerked for the U.S. Supreme Court and headed up Gore's effort during the 2000 Florida recount and was portrayed in the HBO movie Recount by Kevin Spacey."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/politics/ebola-czar-ron-klain/ (http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/politics/ebola-czar-ron-klain/)

Yes, because if Ebola needs anything it needs another politcal hack with a background in Corzine-like capitalist exploitation and shyster-like legal chicanery!

 ::hysterical::

What a fracking joke!  This will be a PR cheer-whore to achieve nothing but be a foil Obola can hide behind!

Me?  I'd rather be a racist teabagger than an ObolaTard!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 17, 2014, 10:32:05 AM
Why doesn't King Putt just setup another Blue Ribbon Panel to look into this?  Maybe in 18-24 months we could have some recommendations they could ignore.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2014, 10:48:58 AM
I'm surprised Obola didn't tap some underemployed talentless hack in need of a paycheck...like Chris Matthews...

But anyway, doesn't matter the asshat chosen for this pointless job...

And I expect the first Q&A session to the media to go something like this (If they we're honest) -

What is Ebola?

Ebola is an infectious, often fatal virus. For more complete information, consult your own darkest paranoid nightmares.

How do you contract Ebola?

Ebola is contracted through contact with a health care system that vastly overestimates its preparedness for a global pandemic.

What are the symptoms of Ebola?

Severe flu-like symptoms that a CNN cameraman is filming.

How long does it take for symptoms to first appear?

Anywhere from two to 10 days after passing through U.S. customs.

How is Ebola treated?

The virus is eventually killed when the body begins naturally decomposing inside a coffin several feet underground.

Do I have Ebola?

Not yet.

How dangerous is Ebola?

Easily Africa’s fourth or fifth most pressing issue.

I come into frequent physical contact with Ebola-infected blood, urine, saliva, stool, and vomit. Am I at risk of contracting Ebola?

Yes.


Is there a risk of Ebola spreading further?

If Dallas authorities fail to properly contain the disease, it may spread as far as Plano and Fort Worth.

How are Ebola outbreaks contained?

Great question!

What are airports doing to screen passengers?

Questionnaire based on fundamental assumption that those in desperate need of medical attention would not lie to get out of western Africa and into the U.S.

How many people could die if Ebola begins spreading in the United States?

Projections are currently imprecise but range anywhere from 318.8 million to 319.0 million Americans.

When will all this Ebola hysteria end?

For you? At exactly 11:18 a.m. on Tuesday, Oct. 28

H/T - The Onion (http://www.theonion.com/articles/what-you-need-to-know-ebola,37137/)

Hey, better Obola Czars?! 

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0KQ-tpIAAAnZzG.jpg)

http://weaselzippers.us/202771-betterebolaczars/ (http://weaselzippers.us/202771-betterebolaczars/)

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2014, 11:32:07 AM
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336)

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President Barack Obama is expected to issue an executive order Thursday paving the way for the deployment of National Guard forces to Liberia to help contain the Ebola outbreak there, sources told NBC News.

God help us.





Unless we are going to kill the population, how in the hell is a national guard soldier going to contain this disease?


The National Guard soldier won't do anything to contain the disease.  What he will do is become a new vector for the disease, which is exactly why he's being sent there in the first place.
It's like the movie Aliens.  Ripley and the marines were sent out there to unwittingly return examples of the organism.

Yeah...

Soldiers get only 4 hours of Ebola training (http://weaselzippers.us/202763-unreal-u-s-soldiers-get-just-four-hours-of-ebola-training-before-deployment-to-west-africa/).

...what could possibly go by Obola Regime design?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2014, 01:14:13 PM
Possible West African Bio-WMD alert at the Pentagon...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-17/officials-responding-possible-ebola-situation-near-pentagon (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-17/officials-responding-possible-ebola-situation-near-pentagon)

...the Pentagon...

...Sierra Leone...

...the Pentagon...

 ::saywhat::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: richb on October 17, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
Ron Klain

"He does not have any extensive background in health care but the job is regarded as a managerial challenge."

AKA:  a political hack in need of a government paycheck.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 17, 2014, 10:56:41 PM
Tonight here in Charlotte there was an ill woman at the airport with 100 degree fever, which prompted their Ebola protocol.  Tests eventually came back negative.  At least in this case they seem to have handled it well, i.e. not allowing the plane to return to the gate or any passengers to deplane until the test results came back.

But it also shows just how easy it will be for Ebola to rapidly spread around the country. A major hub like CLT and you quickly have it spreading to every other airport in the country.

http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/health/2014/10/17/sick-passenger-prompts-ebola-scare-at-charlotte-douglas/17465327/ (http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/health/2014/10/17/sick-passenger-prompts-ebola-scare-at-charlotte-douglas/17465327/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 17, 2014, 11:36:05 PM
Tonight here in Charlotte there was an ill woman at the airport with 100 degree fever, which prompted their Ebola protocol.  Tests eventually came back negative.  At least in this case they seem to have handled it well, i.e. not allowing the plane to return to the gate or any passengers to deplane until the test results came back.

But it also shows just how easy it will be for Ebola to rapidly spread around the country. A major hub like CLT and you quickly have it spreading to every other airport in the country.

http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/health/2014/10/17/sick-passenger-prompts-ebola-scare-at-charlotte-douglas/17465327/ (http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/health/2014/10/17/sick-passenger-prompts-ebola-scare-at-charlotte-douglas/17465327/)

It also show how easily this can be used to HALT nearly everything by simply spreading a contagion that has the same symptoms as Ebola.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 19, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
Possible West African Bio-WMD alert at the Pentagon...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-17/officials-responding-possible-ebola-situation-near-pentagon (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-17/officials-responding-possible-ebola-situation-near-pentagon)

...the Pentagon...

...Sierra Leone...

...the Pentagon...

 ::saywhat::

MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 19, 2014, 06:04:27 PM
MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN.

Had to look that up. Indeed.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: richb on October 19, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
Ebola czar already not showing up for meetings......................

http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/19/ebola-czar-misses-his-second-white-house-meeting-since-being-appointed/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/19/ebola-czar-misses-his-second-white-house-meeting-since-being-appointed/)

WH claiming he doesn't even START his "job" until next week..............He seems to be fitting in well with the Obama regime as they enjoy not showing up. 
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2014, 06:51:56 AM
MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN.

Had to look that up. Indeed.

I don't call Obama "The Destroyer" for nothing.  Hell has been let open.  It's too bad those of us not deserving to be punished with the guilty have to be sideswipped by the punishment...  Just ups my angst it does!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2014, 06:54:14 AM
Ebola czar already not showing up for meetings......................

http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/19/ebola-czar-misses-his-second-white-house-meeting-since-being-appointed/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/19/ebola-czar-misses-his-second-white-house-meeting-since-being-appointed/)

WH claiming he doesn't even START his "job" until next week..............He seems to be fitting in well with the Obama regime as they enjoy not showing up.

Well hey, a DC stooge has a lot to do before looking responsible...got to spiff up the image, get some sporty new threads, hire some purdy faces that can beguile pol's and bullshyt the masses, new stationary to order...a whole new class of hookers to line up for parties...gotta talk to Hunter Biden about scoring lots of primo blow...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 20, 2014, 09:31:49 AM
Via infowars.. Scientist claiming this version of Ebola different  (http://www.infowars.com/top-scientist-this-version-of-ebola-looks-like-a-very-different-bug/) in ways that of course help spread the contagion.

So not only do we have a bad outbreak, it has the characteristics one would want in a bio-weapon, and its coming now, a few years before the demise of the dollar and in the last two years of Obama's last term...  Its all coincidence.

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
Via infowars.. Scientist claiming this version of Ebola different  (http://www.infowars.com/top-scientist-this-version-of-ebola-looks-like-a-very-different-bug/) in ways that of course help spread the contagion.

So not only do we have a bad outbreak, it has the characteristics one would want in a bio-weapon, and its coming now, a few years before the demise of the dollar and in the last two years of Obama's last term...  Its all coincidence.

“Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here.“

Yes, but being dogmatic is racist, so...people must be made to not be racists, even if it fricken kills them!!! 

Thus decrees Obama and the Progs!!!  Obey, and die!  It is your patriotic duty!!!

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Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 20, 2014, 11:17:23 AM
101st will not be fully protected (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/101st-airborne-wont-get-full-protective-hazmat-suits-for-ebola-mission-in-west-africa/)...of course, how can their effectiveness as a combat-ready group be better devalued?

For Jan-July, 71 illegals from Afro-Ebola (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/71-illegals-from-ebola-affected-countries-captured-at-us-border-this-year/) caught at Southern border...

But, no worry, they and a 34 million plus will all be made legal by Obama (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=7510.new#new), after the psuedo-elections of course...

Paying lip service to democracy is one thing...needing to end-around a bogus system just shows are far away from the Founders vision we've drifted!

Just more biscuits for the dogs of war to chew on...

Oh, and uhh, wonder how many fricken stupid African bat-eaters (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12038.new#new) we have pouring in?

 ::rockets::

ETA - Scrolling to the end of this report (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-20/doctors-hit-breaking-point-ebola-death-toll-tops-4500-nigeria-clear-harvard-issues-t) we fully realize HARVARD IS RACIST!

Is this getting any coverage in the MFM?!?!?!  How about Alumnus Emeritus Obola?  Any comment there?!   ::pokeineye::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 21, 2014, 11:32:11 AM
I guess Obama just relaized he is full of scat...

http://weaselzippers.us/203102-breaking-homeland-security-announces-travel-restrictions-on-west-african-countries-to-stall-ebola-outbreak/ (http://weaselzippers.us/203102-breaking-homeland-security-announces-travel-restrictions-on-west-african-countries-to-stall-ebola-outbreak/)

...but didn't want enough scat to choke on...\

..restrictions?  Additional screenings?  BS attempt to avoid a sensible ban, like NIGERIA did!

..what a complete POS!!!   ::vafancoul::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 23, 2014, 07:23:08 AM
Progessive cheerwhore Christie comes out to praise Obama's Ebola policies, what a shock!

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/chris-christie-ebola-112133.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/chris-christie-ebola-112133.html)

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/Failed.jpg)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 23, 2014, 11:44:42 AM
Oh, swell...

/

Obola Death Panels (http://weaselzippers.us/203343-here-we-go-hospitals-considering-ebola-death-panels/)...wonder where they got that idea from?

 ::facepalm::

 ::outrage::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: IronDioPriest on October 23, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
I can't say I blame them. Until we know more about how to avoid conracting this plague while medically treating it, I sympathize with doctors who do not choose to be exposed to it.

If it's health care workers deciding who to treat and how/whether to treat them, I'm good. If it's the federal government, screw that.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 23, 2014, 02:46:39 PM
Yeah, but it is a bit like the euthanasia issue, doctors shouldn't be involved in a decision to assist people in dying.

What should happen is administrators realize there may be need for some facilities on-site at their hospitals equipped to handle something this infectious, seek internal funding and/or foundation funding to create it and and then be sure procedures are in place to follow the proper protocols should the need arise.

And how can doctors and nurses avoid it?  You work an ER and what, you throw out anybody with flu symptoms?

Maybe that flies at for-profit outfits, most hospitals are non-profit and to retain their tax-exempt status they have to do stuff for the "community" and kicking patients to the curb is not one of them.

Likely, what the progressive institutions will do is pimp for federal funds to pay for these facilities and and the training of their staff.

Unless you go into private practice of some sort or be some rich person's private provider, I don't know how anybody in the business can avoid this if it walks in their door.

Not saying I would feel any different than what you are saying, I wouldn't want to be around highly infected people either, but you know going into these professions that dealing with sick people is what it is about, and you don't always know what they might be sick with.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 23, 2014, 07:47:48 PM
Well, now a patient in NYC has tested positive for Ebola.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/ (http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/)


He went bowling and used Uber taxis.  The article was posted before the test results came back positive.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 23, 2014, 07:51:49 PM
Glock32 beat me to this but I'm posting what I wrote anyway...

NYC doctor now under quarantine. (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/doctor-treated-ebola-patients-rushed-bellevue-fever-article-1.1984941) Plus his fiancee.

Yeehaw.

Quote
A Harlem doctor went bowling in Brooklyn before he was hospitalized for possible Ebola.

The shocking revelation that Dr. Craig Spencer was roaming around town — after sources said he first told authorities he self-quarantined himself — emerged after the medic was hauled off Thursday to Bellevue Hospital in a protective suit with symptoms of the deadly disease.

Spencer, 33, who recently returned from the disease-wracked West African county of Guinea, was suffering from nausea and had a 103-degree fever, sources said.

Not a black man in case the Harlem reference popped that visual into your mind. It did for me. Anyway...this is like the nurse flying around the country as far as I'm concerned. I don't expect perfection from healthcare professionals...they are human and they make mistakes. It happens. But, this isn't a mistake. It's more like reckless endangerment. I mean, if some poor schmuck who works at K-Mart gets Obola and waits until he's puking his guts out and bleeding before contacting a doctor I don't necessarily think poorly of him. But a doctor who has 1) recently been to West Africa (specifically Guinea), 2) working with Obola patients and 3) had decided to "self-quarantine" himself...well, I guess I expect a bit more of someone like that.

We have been exceedingly lucky so far with this thing. We are batting a thousand with the the people who have been treated here in the USA. This is a source of puzzlement and I think that it comes from the fact that we really don't know very much about Obola in humans. Most of our previous experience with Obola has been small villages in Africa where everyone gets exposed, the treatment is rudimentary (at best) and most of those infected die. Here in America we have been successful so far. Here is what our survivors have in common with each other:

1) Very early diagnosis,

2) very hygienic treatment facilities,

3) lots of fluids to keep the patients well hydrated,

4) probably a robust immune system,

5) and, perhaps most importantly (but who knows?), treatment with either experimental drugs or antibody-rich blood plasma.

Maybe, just maybe, Obola doesn't have to have as high a mortality rate as has been experienced in Africa. No one really knows.

I thought this was an interesting way to describe this:

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An agitated woman who identified herself as Spencer’s fiancee showed up later at Bellevue. She too was quarantined, sources said.

Probably a bit of an understatement. I'm guessing she was on site when the guy was puking.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on October 23, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
So now it's in Mali. (http://news.yahoo.com/first-case-ebola-confirmed-mali-health-minister-213358361--business.html)

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BAMAKO (Reuters) - Mali confirmed its first case of Ebola on Thursday, becoming the sixth West African country to be touched by the worst outbreak on record of the hemorrhagic fever, which has killed nearly 4,900 people.

Mali's Health Minister Ousmane Kone told state television that the patient in the western town of Kayes was a two-year-old girl who had recently arrived from neighboring Guinea, where the outbreak began.

I'm guessing that if they had a travel ban in Mali it would be a real mess instead of just one case.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 23, 2014, 09:33:12 PM
Yes, and imagine if we had done the obvious and sensible thing months ago, i.e. restrict entry to the USA by people who have been in the affected region. The CDC and liberal chattering class tell us that would not be feasible, and it would not stop the spread of Ebola. Yeah, well it would have stopped 100% of the cases known so far.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 23, 2014, 10:04:50 PM
Rumors of "disappeared" Obola patients (http://www.infowars.com/medical-professional-health-authorities-covering-up-ebola-cases-in-u-s/)
Either because Ebola isn't contagious until AFTER the election, or because they are being grabbed and used as sources of the virus to be used to spread it.
Either way, does it matter.

Dr. Who is harder to burn. Got to deal with the reconstructions and they are all stills- so what bitrate do you encode them at?
meanwhile watching MST3k. Did you know there was a movie starring Sean Connery's brother called "operation Double 007"
No. really.


Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2014, 06:43:29 AM
I don't doubt for a second there are cases are being hidden from the public, it's only the ones that leak out or cannot be easily hidden that hit the news wires.

And it was swell of that doctor to travel around, use the subway etc, what a guy...and he's a doc.   ::facepalm::

Seriously...?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-24/nypd-stunner-cops-exit-ebola-victim-appartment-dump-gloves-masks-sidewalk-trash-can (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-24/nypd-stunner-cops-exit-ebola-victim-appartment-dump-gloves-masks-sidewalk-trash-can)

 ::facepalm::



And now in Minnie we have reports of some teacher and a trip to Sierra Leone to check on her infected father...

Seriously, why do people from West Africa and Somalia and such come here?  Is it cold a snowy where they come from?  I don't think so!  So what in the world is drawing them here?  Could it be Progressive ideology and liberal social welfare benefits?  Nah!  That old acusation was the same one racists used to describe all the bangers coming up from Chitcago!

Progressives/stupidity, risk/danger...cost...it's all related.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
Rumors of "disappeared" Obola patients (http://www.infowars.com/medical-professional-health-authorities-covering-up-ebola-cases-in-u-s/)
Either because Ebola isn't contagious until AFTER the election, or because they are being grabbed and used as sources of the virus to be used to spread it.
Either way, does it matter.

Dr. Who is harder to burn. Got to deal with the reconstructions and they are all stills- so what bitrate do you encode them at?
meanwhile watching MST3k. Did you know there was a movie starring Sean Connery's brother called "operation Double 007"
No. really.

This could be a companion story - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/why-i-will-not-submit-medical-martial-law (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/why-i-will-not-submit-medical-martial-law)

Cannot discount any avenue of statist control.

Much of what could be driving "control" of this and other outbreaks are the very laws meant to protect us and our information like HIPPA.

And being in this industry means having to be forced to comply with all manner of government edicts and punishments.

For instance, I have zero patient contact, yet the organization has a whole pushed getting flu vaccines each year, never mind that it is a crapshoot at best to what strain is going to pop up, but if I don't want one they cannot simply take a non-answer!  We have to fill out these forms declining the vaccine and checking off a box for the reason.  It pisses me off I have to do this sh*t.  And since there isn't a box for "Because this is unconstitutional as well as none of your damned business, and as a matter fact it is a myriad of creeping Big Brother BS like this that is one day soon going to lead to angry people taking to the streets and burning fascist buildings down and slaughtering anybody trying to leave them!" and because that was too long to fit into the "Other" space, I had to settle for the "religious/philiosophical" box.

L.I.B.!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
Good news, Dallas nurse is Ebola-free.  http://news.yahoo.com/york-doctor-tests-positive-ebola-ny-times-004857476.html (http://news.yahoo.com/york-doctor-tests-positive-ebola-ny-times-004857476.html)

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 24, 2014, 12:15:30 PM
Rumors of "disappeared" Obola patients (http://www.infowars.com/medical-professional-health-authorities-covering-up-ebola-cases-in-u-s/)
Either because Ebola isn't contagious until AFTER the election, or because they are being grabbed and used as sources of the virus to be used to spread it.
Either way, does it matter.

Dr. Who is harder to burn. Got to deal with the reconstructions and they are all stills- so what bitrate do you encode them at?
meanwhile watching MST3k. Did you know there was a movie starring Sean Connery's brother called "operation Double 007"
No. really.

This could be a companion story - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/why-i-will-not-submit-medical-martial-law (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/why-i-will-not-submit-medical-martial-law)

Cannot discount any avenue of statist control.

Much of what could be driving "control" of this and other outbreaks are the very laws meant to protect us and our information like HIPPA.

And being in this industry means having to be forced to comply with all manner of government edicts and punishments.

For instance, I have zero patient contact, yet the organization has a whole pushed getting flu vaccines each year, never mind that it is a crapshoot at best to what strain is going to pop up, but if I don't want one they cannot simply take a non-answer!  We have to fill out these forms declining the vaccine and checking off a box for the reason.  It pisses me off I have to do this sh*t.  And since there isn't a box for "Because this is unconstitutional as well as none of your damned business, and as a matter fact it is a myriad of creeping Big Brother BS like this that is one day soon going to lead to angry people taking to the streets and burning fascist buildings down and slaughtering anybody trying to leave them!" and because that was too long to fit into the "Other" space, I had to settle for the "religious/philiosophical" box.

L.I.B.!

That!  Some erstwhile "conservative" on the local forum is of the opinion that it's a moral imperative to get a flu shot -- those who can -- to protect the children and the elderly.  That was the phrase he used -- MORAL IMPERATIVE.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 24, 2014, 12:31:21 PM
Rumors of "disappeared" Obola patients (http://www.infowars.com/medical-professional-health-authorities-covering-up-ebola-cases-in-u-s/)
Either because Ebola isn't contagious until AFTER the election, or because they are being grabbed and used as sources of the virus to be used to spread it.
Either way, does it matter.

Dr. Who is harder to burn. Got to deal with the reconstructions and they are all stills- so what bitrate do you encode them at?
meanwhile watching MST3k. Did you know there was a movie starring Sean Connery's brother called "operation Double 007"
No. really.

This could be a companion story - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/why-i-will-not-submit-medical-martial-law (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/why-i-will-not-submit-medical-martial-law)

Cannot discount any avenue of statist control.

Much of what could be driving "control" of this and other outbreaks are the very laws meant to protect us and our information like HIPPA.

And being in this industry means having to be forced to comply with all manner of government edicts and punishments.

For instance, I have zero patient contact, yet the organization has a whole pushed getting flu vaccines each year, never mind that it is a crapshoot at best to what strain is going to pop up, but if I don't want one they cannot simply take a non-answer!  We have to fill out these forms declining the vaccine and checking off a box for the reason.  It pisses me off I have to do this sh*t.  And since there isn't a box for "Because this is unconstitutional as well as none of your damned business, and as a matter fact it is a myriad of creeping Big Brother BS like this that is one day soon going to lead to angry people taking to the streets and burning fascist buildings down and slaughtering anybody trying to leave them!" and because that was too long to fit into the "Other" space, I had to settle for the "religious/philosophical" box.

L.I.B.!

That!  Some erstwhile "conservative" on the local forum is of the opinion that it's a moral imperative to get a flu shot -- those who can -- to protect the children and the elderly.  That was the phrase he used -- MORAL IMPERATIVE.

Hilarious.  And liberals tell us all the time that morals have no place in the public square, ever!

These people have no capacity to smell their own BS...like a pig wallowing in their sty...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2014, 08:59:26 AM
Another possible case in NYC...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric)

...doesn't sound good.

...and just flew in from west Africa, boy those Obola screening measures are sure working...uhh...not at all!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 27, 2014, 10:37:31 AM
Another possible case in NYC...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric)

...doesn't sound good.

...and just flew in from west Africa, boy those Obola screening measures are sure working...uhh...not at all!


And remember y'all, stopping flights from West Africa won't help prevent the spread of Ebola!  Except, you know, for 100% of all the known cases in the USA right now.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 27, 2014, 11:35:42 AM
Another possible case in NYC...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/symptomatic-5-year-old-boy-tested-ebola-bellevue-hospital-after-returning-west-afric)

...doesn't sound good.

...and just flew in from west Africa, boy those Obola screening measures are sure working...uhh...not at all!


And remember y'all, stopping flights from West Africa won't help prevent the spread of Ebola!  Except, you know, for 100% of all the known cases in the USA right now.

Yeah, but for Obola & the Progs, if an citizen gets it from an exalted contaminated migrant they must deserve it...they must be racists like those Neanderthals that want to keep the exalted contaminated migrants out of the country...

 ::laserkill::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: richb on October 27, 2014, 05:26:12 PM
Imagine how fast it will spread in NYC.   That city is just covered with filth that will only make it go around faster.....
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2014, 07:06:29 AM
Yeah, there is prime breeding ground in most major metro areas...


And, lest we lose proper persepctive on thngs...

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/286f54a700fec80b9e7c7d51a5703c06/tumblr_ndibiuJnrp1qj46iqo1_1280.jpg)

http://kaching.tumblr.com/ (http://kaching.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 28, 2014, 08:17:07 AM
Oh oh.

Some Ebola strains can last up to 50 days on surfaces (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2809803/Ebola-surfaces-TWO-months-Tests-reveal-certain-strains-survive-weeks-stored-low-temperatures.html)!

More gloves and bleach!!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 29, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
It's not spreading fast enough to suit the Obola Regime, so...they intend to continue to violate the Constitution, pork the Congress, eff the hospitals and providers, rape the taxpayers...so they can intentionally bring in infected West African's  (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/state-dept-plan-to-bring-ebola-patients-to-us-will-cost-300000-per-patient-video/)under the auspices of "treatment".

Faaa-uccckk-inggg INSANE!!!

ETA - On the opposite side of the sanity scale...

Australia institutes travel ban to/from infected areas (http://news.yahoo.com/u-isolates-troops-australia-slaps-visa-ban-ebola-041640921.html), showing more good sense than asshats like Prez Obola!

Another ETA - Back again to the insane...

This idiot nurse is just as stupid and selfish and disdainful of her neighbors (http://www.today.com/health/nurse-kaci-hickox-says-she-wont-obey-maines-ebola-quarantine-1D80251330#nurse-kaci-hickox-says-she-wont-obey-maines-ebola-quarantine-1D80251330) as Duncan (Patient Zero) was!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: richb on October 29, 2014, 04:57:56 PM
She does "work" for the CDC doesn't she?   No wonder nobody there is complaining about the political correctness over science.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 29, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
She does "work" for the CDC doesn't she?   No wonder nobody there is complaining about the political correctness over science.

Worse, both the CDC and the current regime are avowing the PC *is* the science, as in "the science does not support" quarantining for the likes of Kaci the Special Snowflake, in an exact reversal of "the science does support" manmade global climate change.

Apparently, as with everything with the lunatics, the "science" either does or does not support whatever they want it to.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2014, 06:54:31 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Warnings/AlbertSays_zps4d038b27.jpg)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 30, 2014, 12:12:05 PM
Quote
    Dr. [Bruce] Beutler, an American medical doctor and researcher, won the Nobel Prize for Medicine and Physiology in 2011 for his work researching the cellular subsystem of the body’s overall immune system — the part of it that defends the body from infection by other organisms, like Ebola.

    He is currently the Director of the Center for the Genetics of Host Defense at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas — the first U.S. city to treat an Ebola patient and also the first to watch one die from the virus. In an exclusive interview with NJ Advance Media, Beutler reviewed Christie’s new policy of mandatory quarantine for all health care workers exposed to Ebola, and declared: “I favor it.”

Dr. Beutler warned that quarantining and monitoring is a sound policy, not because it is clear that the potentially exposed are clearly infectious, but because their data is inconclusive and there are too few observed cases to know exactly how this disease transmits from host to host.

“It may not be absolutely true that those without symptoms can’t transmit the disease, because we don’t have the numbers to back that up,” Beutler said. “It could be people develop significant viremia [where viruses enter the bloodstream and gain access to the rest of the body], and become able to transmit the disease before they have a fever, even. People may have said that without symptoms you can’t transmit Ebola. I’m not sure about that being 100 percent true. There’s a lot of variation with viruses.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/30/science-nobel-prize-winning-doctor-backs-christies-quarantine-plan/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/30/science-nobel-prize-winning-doctor-backs-christies-quarantine-plan/)

Ahem ......... http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/30/ebola-nurse-kaci-hickox-violates-quarantine-dares-you-to-do-something-about-it/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/30/ebola-nurse-kaci-hickox-violates-quarantine-dares-you-to-do-something-about-it/)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on October 30, 2014, 12:24:23 PM
Yes, that is all true.

And...as an early article I posted noted (that one about the UK research) some Ebola strains can live on surfaces up to 50 days!

So...quarrantine durations should, be extended to a couple months...that still may not be adequate if what Beutler fears comes to pass and the virus can be passed along without symptoms!

We, the U.S. (the Obama Regime especially!) is not even operating at minimally safe parameters!!!!!!

It is UN-sane!!!
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Weisshaupt on October 31, 2014, 09:24:31 PM
 Good News! Ebola is genetically targeted... (http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/10/30/health-ebola-genes-idINKBN0IJ2KN20141030)

Draw your own conclusions...
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on October 31, 2014, 10:16:36 PM
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The study shows that host genes influence which cells become infected and how much the virus replicates, said Professor Andrew Easton, a virologist at the University of Warwick, who was not part of the study.

"Most of these genes are involved in the very earliest stages of our immune response to infection," something that has also been seen with other viruses, he said in a statement.

Not just with viruses and not just infection, per se.  Tay-Sachs.  Sickle cell anemia.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Glock32 on October 31, 2014, 11:33:13 PM
Good News! Ebola is genetically targeted... (http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/10/30/health-ebola-genes-idINKBN0IJ2KN20141030)

Draw your own conclusions...


So far the Westerners infected with Ebola have fared much better.  Now a lot of that is the quality of treatment available, but I've also wondered if genetics could play a role.  The effects of the Bubonic Plague are still evident in the genetics of people of European descent.  Basically, it killed so many people in the 1300s that the survivors were selected for their immune traits.  One interesting area of study is in the surface receptors of immune cells.  Approximately 10% of white people are essentially immune to HIV due to a variation of the degCCR5 gene.  I wonder if something similar figures into Ebola infection.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on November 01, 2014, 01:21:23 AM
The thought about genetics of Westerners as compared to those in Africa is extremely interesting and worthy of research.

The problem, though, is that it is difficult to find people to study. No one in their right mind would willingly become infected and those that do become infected are dangerous to be around. Plus a lot of them die.

I am skeptical that Africans were not, like Europeans, subject to a plague epidemic or two in their distant past. Just because there is nothing documented (for obvious reasons) does not mean that a similar history did not occur.

But it is an interesting avenue of pursuit in unraveling the mystery of the disease.

A couple of articles of interest from, of all places, The New Yorker. I read the first one, The Obola Wars (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/ebola-wars), perhaps a week or so ago and it is authored by Richard Preston (of The Hot Zone fame). In it he first describes how incredibly infectious Obola is and then how researchers are mapping its genetic mutations. Very interesting, though, is the second part of the article which describes in extreme detail how the Samaritan's Purse doctor and nurse were saved...the timeline from infection to being Obola-free. Probably the most comprehensive explanation of the events that can be found anywhere...

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At the ELWA hospital, Lance Plyler, with the drug now in his hands, agonized about whether he should give it to Writebol or to Brantly. He found some words in the Book of Esther: “Who knows whether you have come to the kingdom for such a time as this?” Writebol was extremely ill by now, but he found Brantly in surprisingly good condition, working on his laptop in bed. Brantly was more concerned about Writebol. “Give the drug to Nancy—I’ll be getting out of here in a couple of days,” he told Plyler. An evacuation jet had been ordered, and he was evidently thinking of that. Still, Plyler put off the decision. Another night passed.

On the morning of July 31st, Plyler went to see Nancy Writebol, and decided to give her the drug. She seemed close to the end stage of Ebola-virus disease; she had developed a sea of red spots and papules across her torso—signs of hemorrhages under the skin—and she was beginning to bleed internally. She could crash at any time: lose blood pressure, go into shock, and die. One of the bottles was taken out of the freezer, and Plyler had Writebol hold it in her armpit to defrost it.

Around seven o’clock that evening, Plyler went to Brantly’s house to see how he was doing. When he looked in the window, he was stunned. Brantly had abruptly gone into the end-stage decline. His eyes were sunken, his face was a gray mask, and he was breathing in irregular gasps. “A clinician knows the look,” Plyler told me later. “He was dying.” Brantly, a clinician himself, realized that he was on the verge of a breathing arrest. With no ventilators at the hospital, he wouldn’t make it through the night.

Plyler made a decision. “Kent, I’m going to give you the antibodies.” He would split the three doses, giving one bottle to Brantly, the second bottle to Writebol, and the third bottle to whichever of them was not evacuated.

A nurse got the bottle from under Writebol’s arm. Writebol said that she was glad for Brantly to have it. While Plyler watched, a doctor named Linda Mabula suited up and went into Brantly’s house, where she prepared an I.V. drip. The plan was to drip the first dose into him very slowly, so that the antibodies wouldn’t send him into shock. Plyler stayed by the window and prayed with Brantly. After less than an hour, Brantly began to shake violently, a condition called rigors. It occurs in people who are near death from an overwhelming bacterial infection. Plyler had a different feeling about these rigors. “That’s just the antibodies kicking the virus’s butt,” he told Brantly through the window.

Three hours later, Lisa Hensley got a text from Lance Plyler: “Kent is about halfway into the first dose. Honestly he looks distinctly better already. Is that possible?” Hensley texted back to say that monkeys on the brink of death had shown improvement within hours. Two days later, having received one dose of ZMapp out of the required three doses, and a blood transfusion from a fourteen-year-old boy who had recovered from Ebola, Kent Brantly walked onto the evacuation plane. At Emory University Hospital, in Atlanta, he received two more doses of ZMapp, which had been sent from the tobacco facility in Kentucky, and was discharged from the hospital after two weeks, free of the virus.

The second article chronicles "What We Don't Know About Obola." (http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/dont-know-ebola?int-cid=mod-latest)

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What don’t we know about Ebola? In some ways, we’re only aware of how much we don’t understand because of the little that we do. No one has identified Ebola’s “natural reservoir”—the animal species that carry the dormant pathogen during lulls between human outbreaks. Finding the hidden pool of the virus would go a long way toward eradicating it. At first, researchers thought that the hosts were chimpanzees, gorillas, and other primates. Now it is clear that these animals get sick and die too quickly to hold on to the virus for long. Although Ebola may be carried without symptoms in fruit bats for extended periods, as the media has widely reported, additional candidates keep emerging—a certain strain of the virus was found to be harbored by pigs in the Philippines in 2008, for example. To discover the source of Ebola, we should send trained field workers into the bush to test, isolate, and then kill infected animals to remove them as a food source and limit their capacity to transmit the virus.

There is precedent for this kind of strategy. In the bird flu outbreaks of 2005 through 2007, certain flocks of chickens in Asia carried deadly strains of influenza. Chinese public-health officials were able to target and slaughter them, snuffing out an epidemic that otherwise could have spread with great speed and ferocity, and significantly reducing the chance of flare-ups afterward.

Although we know that bodily fluids are contagious, we still don’t have a definitive picture of how the virus enters the body’s cells. But learning the biology of Ebola infections is necessary for designing and deploying effective drugs and vaccines. Unlike H.I.V., which can only infect a limited set of cell types in the body, Ebola is promiscuous and attacks white blood cells, the cells that line our vessels, and cells that make up our liver, adrenal glands, and airways. Research studies have suggested at least three potential paths that the virus can take to invade our tissues. In one sequence, Ebola attaches to a protein on the surface of a cell that is meant to transport cholesterol. After Ebola has hijacked the surface protein, it sneaks into the cell and rapidly proliferates. (That transport protein is ubiquitous in the body, because all our organs require cholesterol in order to function normally.) Other experiments have indicated that Ebola can commandeer a protein called TIM-1, which is widely distributed in conjunctiva, the insides of our eyelids, and in our cornea. Despite taking precautions with gloves and facemasks, health-care workers who have become infected may have inadvertently brushed a finger near their eye, giving the virus access to TIM-1.

And then there's this from The Federalist, "Medical Science Doesn't Support Official Rhetoric On Obola." (http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/31/medical-science-doesnt-support-official-rhetoric-on-ebola/)

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The unavoidable inference from official statements is that victims without symptoms (yet!) cannot transmit the disease, and the “symptoms” are as straightforward as a “fever” (which remains ill-defined). Ebola can only be transmitted via “direct contact” with “body fluids” and then must enter new victims’ bodily openings. Ebola can’t be transmitted from dry surfaces of, say, doorknobs and bowling balls or invade dry skin surfaces that are not abraded, according to CDC’s initial assurances (accepted on faith, apparently, by the president, the New York Times reporter, the Dallas nurses, and even the New York City doctor who cared for Liberian Ebola patients and who apparently walked the city’s streets on his return, even while not feeling well.

These official assurances should not have passed the smell test. They contrast with the videos of Emory University’s Ebola specialists (and other caregivers and decontamination crews) who, when yards away from Ebola patients, were suited up—head to toe, with multiple layers of clothing, goggles, and respirators—with their gear appearing to be as protective as that worn by Japanese workers who in 2011 began seeking to contain the radiation leaks at the earthquake-damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear workers. The Emory Ebola caregivers got hosed down with chemicals on exiting the isolation rooms. They also suited up and disrobed following strict protocols, with supervisors watching.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on November 01, 2014, 02:03:03 AM
About the suits .... the Feds are acquiring hazmat suits.  These are not BIO-HAZARD suits.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 01, 2014, 11:34:39 AM
Interesting that the non-partisan CDC is so sure of itself...oops, strike that!

CDC posts then deletes Obola "sneeze & cough warning" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2815903/New-CDC-confusion-Ebola-deletes-warning-virus-spread-coughs-sneezes-website.html).

We're the government, and where here to help (ourselves, not you!).

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on November 02, 2014, 12:35:37 AM
Latest possible Obola infection is in Oregon...

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The Oregonian reports that the woman "recently arrived in Portland and was monitoring herself for Ebola symptoms under a voluntary program" and that "a source told The Oregonian she arrived from Liberia on Tuesday evening." According to the Los Angeles Times, the woman flew through one of the five U.S. airports screening travelers entering the U.S. from Ebola-stricken countries.

Oregon officials have remained tight-lipped about the woman or her background, citing privacy issues. She remains in isolation at Providence Milwaukie Hospital until test results determine the cause of her illness and temperature. Reuters originally reported that the woman was an "Oregon resident." However, both The Oregonian and the Los Angeles Times flatly dispute that characterization.

"The patient is not an Oregon resident," reports the Los Angeles Times. "She had been staying in a household in the Portland area."

Doctors say the Liberian woman's temperature spike was cause for alarm. "It got our attention because it was over 102 degrees," said Dr. Paul Lewis.

LINK (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/01/Liberian-Woman-with-102-Degree-Fever-Hospitalized-in-Oregon-Awaits-Ebola-Test-Results)

And, from the glass-half-empty crowd (who seem to be more right than wrong) we have this happy news...

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Top medical experts studying the spread of Ebola say the public should expect more cases to emerge in the United States by year's end as infected people arrive here from West Africa, including American doctors and nurses returning from the hot zone and people fleeing from the deadly disease.

No one knows for sure how many infections will emerge in the U.S. or anywhere else, but scientists have made educated guesses based on data models that weigh hundreds of variables, including daily new infections in West Africa, airline traffic worldwide and transmission possibilities.

This week, several top infectious disease experts ran simulations that predicted as few as one or two additional infections by the end of 2014 to a worst-case scenario of 130.


LINK (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816884/Scientists-try-predict-number-US-Ebola-cases.html#ixzz3Ht1DLUzf)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 02, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
It must irritate Obolamites that whites aren't dropping dead from this, but perhaps their insanity indicates their determination to correct that flaw, eh?
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: trapeze on November 04, 2014, 01:18:04 AM
I seem to remember posting early on that the pattern for Obola in the past has been for it to flare up and then, for reasons unknown, die down and go dormant.

Well, if you can believe the headline at the Drudge Report, (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/as-ebola-declines-in-liberia-health-officials-reassess-response-plans/2014/11/03/88126a4c-6365-11e4-bb14-4cfea1e742d5_story.html) that is now happening in Liberia.

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MONROVIA, Liberia — The rate of new Ebola infections here has declined so sharply in recent weeks that even some of the busiest treatment facilities are now only half-full and officials are reassessing the scale of the response needed to quell the epidemic.

The turnaround has occurred without the provision of a single treatment bed by the U.S. military, which has promised to build 17 Ebola facilities containing 100 beds each across Liberia. Those treatment units will be constructed, said Bill Berger, head of the U.S. Agency for International Development’s Disaster Assistance Response Team here. But the option of initially opening some with as few as 10 beds is “being discussed,” he said.

That would provide people in all parts of the country access to a nearby treatment unit should they become infected in the months to come. And each facility would be constructed so that it could be quickly expanded to as many as 100 beds if the need arises, he said. The United States has spent $360 million so far fighting Ebola in West Africa.

No one tracking the outbreak is close to declaring the deadly hemorrhagic disease vanquished, and all are wary that the virus, which has receded at times over the past seven months, could suddenly flare again in this impoverished country, the epicenter of the West African Ebola catastrophe.

But five days after the World Health Organization said new infections were declining in Liberia, a 157-bed treatment center in the city of Foya, where the epidemic began seven months ago, held no patients Monday, according to a nurse there. The same facility received no new admissions last Wednesday, the most recent day for which government statistics were available.

Remember, this is the same disease that the experts were computer modeling to be over a million infected by year's end. That does not look like it will happen now.

Again, the mystery that surrounds this disease. No one knows where it hides while dormant. No one knows why it breaks out of its dormancy. No one knows why it returns to its dormancy.

There is, however, a pattern emerging after all of these years and that is that each time it does flare up and break out it infects and kills more people than it did in previous incidents. Why? Again, no one knows.

Is it actually going dormant now? Time will tell, of course. You could ask the CDC but you would get as good an answer with one of those Magic Eightball things.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 04, 2014, 06:50:25 AM
I seem to remember posting early on that the pattern for Obola in the past has been for it to flare up and then, for reasons unknown, die down and go dormant.

Well, if you can believe the headline at the Drudge Report, (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/as-ebola-declines-in-liberia-health-officials-reassess-response-plans/2014/11/03/88126a4c-6365-11e4-bb14-4cfea1e742d5_story.html) that is now happening in Liberia.

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MONROVIA, Liberia — The rate of new Ebola infections here has declined so sharply in recent weeks that even some of the busiest treatment facilities are now only half-full and officials are reassessing the scale of the response needed to quell the epidemic.

The turnaround has occurred without the provision of a single treatment bed by the U.S. military, which has promised to build 17 Ebola facilities containing 100 beds each across Liberia. Those treatment units will be constructed, said Bill Berger, head of the U.S. Agency for International Development’s Disaster Assistance Response Team here. But the option of initially opening some with as few as 10 beds is “being discussed,” he said.

That would provide people in all parts of the country access to a nearby treatment unit should they become infected in the months to come. And each facility would be constructed so that it could be quickly expanded to as many as 100 beds if the need arises, he said. The United States has spent $360 million so far fighting Ebola in West Africa.

No one tracking the outbreak is close to declaring the deadly hemorrhagic disease vanquished, and all are wary that the virus, which has receded at times over the past seven months, could suddenly flare again in this impoverished country, the epicenter of the West African Ebola catastrophe.

But five days after the World Health Organization said new infections were declining in Liberia, a 157-bed treatment center in the city of Foya, where the epidemic began seven months ago, held no patients Monday, according to a nurse there. The same facility received no new admissions last Wednesday, the most recent day for which government statistics were available.

Remember, this is the same disease that the experts were computer modeling to be over a million infected by year's end. That does not look like it will happen now.

Again, the mystery that surrounds this disease. No one knows where it hides while dormant. No one knows why it breaks out of its dormancy. No one knows why it returns to its dormancy.

There is, however, a pattern emerging after all of these years and that is that each time it does flare up and break out it infects and kills more people than it did in previous incidents. Why? Again, no one knows.

Is it actually going dormant now? Time will tell, of course. You could ask the CDC but you would get as good an answer with one of those Magic Eightball things.

These known/unknown unknown's are a bugger!  A temporary lull does not fill me with happiness, calm before the apocalypse or just another cycle, nobody knows!

All I know for sure is that Obama and the Progressives are doing everything wrong on this, and that cannot end well for too many people.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 06, 2014, 11:50:37 AM
An unknown unknown surfaces to be known - Have the Regime start pressing the Presstitutes to whithhold stories of suspected/known Ebola cases (http://www.infowars.com/media-agrees-not-to-report-on-suspected-ebola-cases-in-u-s/).

Figures, lying and cover ups go hand in hand...and since this Regime can do whatever it wants without worrying about pesky things like the Constitution, right or wrong, being caught let alone held accountable...

But somebody just leaked that 357 people in NYC are being monitored for Ebola! (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/active-monitoring-ebola-doctor-Craig-Spencer-bellevue-hospital-281671121.html)  Well, these leakers can expect Fedcoat goons at their doorsteps for such a rank violation!   
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 12, 2014, 07:05:16 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/california-nurses-strike-ahead-larger-protest-over-ebola-020728366.html (http://news.yahoo.com/california-nurses-strike-ahead-larger-protest-over-ebola-020728366.html)

California nurses strike because protections from Ebola patients are not sufficient...

All well and good, I'd be concerned too...but if this gets hijacked into an extortion scheme for taxpayer funds and turns into another hook for government to yank...

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Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Pandora on November 17, 2014, 09:26:42 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/17/Surgeon-with-Ebola-died--Nebraska-hospital-says (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/17/Surgeon-with-Ebola-died--Nebraska-hospital-says)
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 17, 2014, 11:27:10 AM
Already dying went he got here and just became a carrier...how many people exposed between testing dates, eh?  No, we won't here any of that news till more bodies start dropping, if ever...

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 19, 2014, 08:36:26 AM
Brooklyn Woman On Ebola Monitoring List Drops Dead Bleeding From "Face, Mouth, Nose" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/brooklyn-woman-ebola-monitoring-list-drops-dead-bleeding-face-mouth-nose)

Well, gosh, what does this mean?  Is this a positve indication of Ebola?  I sure wish the MFM and The Regime could speak clearly and honestly.

/

'FDNY activated the Special Operations and Hazmat units after the the woman, who had recently traveled from Guinea according to a source on the scene, died at Amy Professional African Hair Braiding in Brooklyn."

Yeah, but it's RACIST to deny freedom of movement to/from highly contagious infected zones and RACIST to quarrantine people and RACIST to tell the public about it and RACIST to not allow these people freedom of movement and RACIST to talk about this in any way at all!

So, per The Obama Regime, y'all STFD and STFU and if you fricken die you fricken die!  Why should you be any different from them, RACIST!

 ::pullhair::

I tell ya...some days...

 ::taz::

Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on November 22, 2014, 11:29:33 AM
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/bandits-guinea-steal-blood-samples-suspected-ebola-infection-105900372.html

Gosh, I wonder what they plan to do with it?

Oh well, whatever.
Title: Re: Now the Ebola has made it to North America...
Post by: Libertas on January 14, 2015, 06:46:21 AM
First blowback from O'Bongo foolishly sending our troops to Ebola areas?

http://weaselzippers.us/210901-fort-hood-soldier-monitoring-for-ebola-symptoms-found-dead-outside-residence/ (http://weaselzippers.us/210901-fort-hood-soldier-monitoring-for-ebola-symptoms-found-dead-outside-residence/)

They are saying he tested negative for Ebola...but close with this statement: "The cause of the soldier's death remains unknown."

Uhh huh.

Troops are for killing people and destroying things...not police actions in parts of the world that should be avoided (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=12038.msg137086#msg137086)!